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Re: Mushroom Storage [Re: Drshroomy88]
    #24115714 - 02/24/17 09:49 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

It wont hurt it. Im presuming you are thoroughly drying them first right?


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Re: Mushroom Storage [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #24115743 - 02/24/17 09:55 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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It wont hurt it. Im presuming you are thoroughly drying them first right?




Ok good to know! Yes I use a dehydrator until they are cracker dry! Also do they need to cool off before I vacuum seal? Also will the desiccant packet be harmful if it touches the shrooms? I know there are some foods like beef jerky that contain packets that actually touch the jerky or does that depend on the packet?


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Re: Mushroom Storage [Re: Drshroomy88]
    #24115874 - 02/24/17 10:50 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

only reason you "cant eat" desiccant packs is b/c they're a "choking hazard", if you ate the silica you'd be fine.. it wouldn't dry you out from the inside.


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Re: Mushroom Storage [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #24115886 - 02/24/17 10:55 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

:whathesaid: silica is basically sand iirc. Not poisonous
as for sealing them hot probably wont matter but I doubt it would absorb much water if you let it cooldown. If it is sealed while still hot all I imagine would happen is the sealed bag may pull more vacuum as iit cools.


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Re: Mushroom Storage [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #24115890 - 02/24/17 10:57 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Well, that and silica is toxic.

edit: source: https://www.realself.com/question/symptoms-silicone-poisoning-breast-implants#! I don't know how much you'd have to eat, but it's not totally benign.


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Re: Mushroom Storage [Re: krypto2000]
    #24115897 - 02/24/17 11:02 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Silica is an additive in food products as an anticaking agent surely youd need to eat a fuck load to get poisoning


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Re: Mushroom Storage [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #24115916 - 02/24/17 11:12 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

and i get PMs and people wondering why i wrote this damn thing:mushroom2:

why are people over complicating something so fucking basic. you dry them with high heat and quickly
as you can so the actives do not degrade. once they are 100% cracker dry the actives will stay active
for a loooooong time.

ive eaten shrooms that i dried and stored ranging from a few days after drying to a few months.
i gave a buddy of mine some dried shrooms that i had from maybe 7 or 8  years ago.

he said they worked juuuust fine.:thumbup:

the only time ive ever had issues with storage/fucked up shrooms was when i gave this guy fresh shrooms
to eat but he put them in a ziplock and stashed them in his car for a 3hrs while he was in the movies on at 110f day.
the mushrooms basically melted and turned to shroomjelly and he tried to say it was because i gave
him moldy shrooms. and i should of fan dried them.

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Re: Mushroom Storage [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #24115926 - 02/24/17 11:17 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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Silica is an additive in food products as an anticaking agent surely youd need to eat a fuck load to get poisoning



:whathesaid:
water isn't even entirely benign...just dont drink alot without pissing and you're good. "It's the dose that makes the poison" you can eat a bit of silica without any problems.
http://www.medicaldaily.com/water-intoxication-just-how-much-h2o-does-it-take-kill-person-312958


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Re: Mushroom Storage [Re: krypto2000]
    #24115930 - 02/24/17 11:19 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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Well, that and silica is toxic.

edit: source: https://www.realself.com/question/symptoms-silicone-poisoning-breast-implants#! I don't know how much you'd have to eat, but it's not totally benign.



also siliCONE and siliCA are different.


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Re: Mushroom Storage [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #24115934 - 02/24/17 11:23 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

:facepalm:

Behold, the predicted Resurrection.

No, the pacs won't help.

Yes, the sealed bags will not let moisture in.

Yes, you have to use the specific bags.

No, you cannot use ziplocs.


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Re: Mushroom Storage [Re: Mr Piggy]
    #24115940 - 02/24/17 11:24 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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:facepalm:

Behold, the predicted Resurrection.

No, the pacs won't help.
^^wrong.

Yes, the sealed bags will not let moisture in.

Yes, you have to use the specific bags.

No, you cannot use ziplocs.
^^^ wrong....




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Re: Mushroom Storage [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #24115944 - 02/24/17 11:26 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Okay, if the mushrooms go straight from the dehydrator to a sealed environment with no air and no chance for air to get in, the pacs will not help regulate moisture that is already absent.  :shrug:


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Re: Mushroom Storage [Re: Mr Piggy]
    #24115947 - 02/24/17 11:28 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Also, where is this information about being able to use ziplocs in the vaccume sealers?


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Re: Mushroom Storage [Re: Mr Piggy]
    #24115972 - 02/24/17 11:42 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Yah, you guys are right about silica being non toxic, I looked at that link too hastily and didn't realize it was talking about silicone.

Ime ziplocks do not work, I have no link on it, but they just don't. They seal okay, but no vacuum gets pulled on them and they are thin enough to allow air to permeate over time anyway. The vacuum sealer bags are not expensive, especially compared to what you're putting in them, don't be cheap to try to save literally 5$ while risking hundreds or even thousands of dollars of product.


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Re: Mushroom Storage [Re: krypto2000] * 1
    #24115990 - 02/24/17 11:50 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

my vacuum is a ziplock bag and a straw with a polyfil filter and i suck the air out.

but i really need a vacuum sealer.

anyone growing over a few dried oz is going to need one at some point. mushrooms tend to pile up quick.


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Re: Mushroom Storage [Re: Drshroomy88]
    #24116014 - 02/24/17 12:00 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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Also when using a vacuum sealer is it really necessary to use the special and expensive bags that are sold? Or can a regular zip loc or something else be used? I Mean it just pulls out the air and melts the opening closed right?




:facepalm:

Guys, I was responding to this specific question about ziplocs.  I was saying that they cannot be used in a vacuum sealer.


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Re: Mushroom Storage [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
    #24116070 - 02/24/17 12:27 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

ha. you were.

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Re: Mushroom Storage [Re: mushboy]
    #24116077 - 02/24/17 12:29 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

I could have made that clearer, missed out on that whole second page thing.  Whoops...


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Re: Mushroom Storage [Re: mushboy]
    #24116092 - 02/24/17 12:36 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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my vacuum is a ziplock bag and a straw with a polyfil filter and i suck the air out.

but i really need a vacuum sealer.

anyone growing over a few dried oz is going to need one at some point. mushrooms tend to pile up quick.





Ha! You know its funny I do this too, I suck the air out and impulse seal.
Actually, I doubt you could tell the difference between mine and one done with a proper vacuum.
Its only practical on small bags


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Re: Mushroom Storage [Re: mushpunx]
    #24116114 - 02/24/17 12:47 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

yah im just talking half or oz sized ziplocks.

i almost inhaled the filter/shroom shake from the forced needed to suck all the air out of a gallon freezer bag.


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