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#23735984 - 10/14/16 03:16 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So I had a bad night a few nights ago and decided its time to stop drinking but ive been moderate to extremely heavy for 10 years. Last few months ive been doing about 750ml of whiskey a day.
I have no insurance but I'm feeling really nasty. Not mind but body. I get what feels like a panic attack onset but it fizzlez out.
I think my b12 is fucked because I have like every symptom of anemia(b12 helps to make red blood cells)
I'd love to go to a hospital just for piece of mind and continue to detox by limiting whiskey to 2-3 shots ...maybe I should consume more to curve withdrawl but I'm sick of booze to no end.
Thanks for reading my crap
Oops should be in well being forum??
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: mushboy]
#23736014 - 10/14/16 03:43 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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you gotta ween yourself off
try using kava/kava extract to ease the wds
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i might be weening to drastically.
coincidentally I've been cultivating the mush and i tripped for the first time in 10 years about a week ago and i had a voice(?) yelling at me to knock off the booze. i proceeded to shake and throw up tons of bile for a few hours. that was tuesday. wesnesday i was ok. but after about 1hr of shitty sleep i barfed up more junk. at least my dinner stayed down.
its nice to ramble on the shroomery. it takes my mind off how shitty i feel and how angry i am at myself for doing this.
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: mushboy]
#23736021 - 10/14/16 03:55 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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hope things turn up for you brother
maybe try some other types of earth medicine
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thanks the wife is less than pleased :p
i got a few xanax if things get really bad like convulsions or DTs.. then ill call 911 and eat a massive hospital bill. thanks merica
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: mushboy]
#23736051 - 10/14/16 04:20 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You should be allright in my opinion with that much for just a few months.
Do you drink all the time or are there times during the day you are relatively sober?
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nope.. all day. but ive been a all day drinking for a long time.
i like how most resources classify 'booze bag' as 2-3 drinks a day multiple times a week.
ive been out of work from a injury(go workers comp) so i basically wake up around noon. drink till midnight. 750ml is common.
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: mushboy]
#23736059 - 10/14/16 04:27 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hmm. I can put away a fifth in a day pretty easy as of late, but I think what saves me is that I am always sober for work so at least 40 or 50 hours every week I am not drunk.
Maybe try to stop drinking for part of the day if you can't cut it out entirely. Do some exercise if you can and make sure you are eating. For me sometimes I get home from work and I am just too tired to drink, which are the only nights I stay somewhat sober.
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thats how i was up until feb. working 60-70 hrs a week(not fun)
then i just exploded with drinking. i can barely drink to ween off the stuff. im just so grossed out with myself if i even see booze i get upset.
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Connoisseur said: you gotta ween yourself off
try using kava/kava extract to ease the wds
I wouldn't recommend Kava for a ten year alcoholic.
His liver is already fried and Kava is liver toxic.
Valerian root would be my recommendation for WD and get some milk thistle in you.
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: Moonshoe]
#23736987 - 10/14/16 12:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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kava sounds harsh on liver. poor little guy.
today is pretty shitty. not feeling good at all. but gotta power through
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: Moonshoe]
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Connoisseur said: you gotta ween yourself off
try using kava/kava extract to ease the wds
I wouldn't recommend Kava for a ten year alcoholic.
His liver is already fried and Kava is liver toxic.
Valerian root would be my recommendation for WD and get some milk thistle in you.
Milk thistle is good stuff, i need to get some more. Supplements and good diet will help. It will be a process.
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Like I said on the other thread...that quantity of booze for that long is a recipe for grand mal seisures. If you have the benzos, you should at least take a half a bar or a valium. This is serious stuff mush, my business partner almost recently died from this...he wound up strapped down to a gurney for 3 days.
Alcoholic withdrawals (at this level) should be left to professionals who can monitor your vitals while also putting you on a IV to keep fluids in you...If not...make sure you drink plenty of water or orange juice and take a benzo asap...are you shaking badly?
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no shakes minus slight tremor ive always had clamy hands. surprisingly not much of a headache. at the moment i feel more drained and tired than anything else. i always drink tons of water. i have and thing for drinking fluids(no dick jokes please) i feel restless and my upper gut is killing me from barfing so much,
i dig your concern. i got xanax on the way, no valium but ill keep if i get shaky/weirded out. Im not doing cold turkey. fuck that. 2-3 shots every 24 hrs.
id go to a doctor but im in settlement limbo at the moment so i have no coverage.
it seems weed, tons of water, and grilled lamb settled nicely in my tum
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: mushboy]
#23737133 - 10/14/16 01:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Get some milk thistle. It will help a lot.
Benadryl melatonin and chamomile for sleep.
Benadryl will help the shakes if you get them. Definitely keep weening but try to lengthen the time frame an hour or so each time.
I used klonopins to get off booze, and didn't ween from the booze. I was getting blacked out pretty much every single day. It's a shitty place to be internally and spiritually, but in a couple of weeks you'll be right.
Just don't turn it into a benzo addiction like I did. Klonopin are harder to kick than booze imo
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: vandago]
#23737149 - 10/14/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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yah i told my guy these xanax are one time and do not give me more.
my hands are shaking less than when i was drinking and i noticed last night when i did take a few oz of whiskey i started shaking more
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: mushboy]
#23737162 - 10/14/16 01:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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What sucks is when you get past the shakes and go into a full blown relapse on the benzos. That's when you are risking your life.
It's a lot harder to do it without a doctor, but it's a lot easier to get addicted to benzos with one.
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: mushboy]
#23737189 - 10/14/16 01:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Please be careful man. Ive never experienced alcohol withdrawals, but drinking that much for a decade isnt anything to fuck around with. There arent any free/low cost medical services in your area?
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: danielx]
#23737347 - 10/14/16 02:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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def take xanax if you can't handle it. i'd take it for sleep too.
try ketamine. i successfully have been off of alcohol because of ketamine, it actually helps alcoholics.
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Kratom also seems like a good option, I have read many stories of alcoholics using it to stop drinking successfully. Stay safe OP!
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: mushboy]
#23737465 - 10/14/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Good for you! Mushrooms can be an incredible force for change, if only people listen. It sounds like your trip was needed and well received.
BTW, why is your wife unimpressed with you? You would think that she would be ecstatic with the positive change that you are trying to make.
Good luck and best wishes.
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try ketamine. i successfully have been off of alcohol because of ketamine, it actually helps alcoholics.
Do not listen to sancho.
ketamine is a terrible Idea.
I am an extremely hardcore K user, and I can without a doubt tell you that using K to ween down from alcohol is one of the worst ways possible.
Just don't. It replicates the feeling to avoid the cravings, but it's not allowing your body to detox right, and when you do enough K to get K pains AND you are detoxing from booze, man you don't wanna shit the bed.
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: vandago]
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it works.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25325907
i only did the k for 4 days though.
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I also have a vacuum cleaner for a nose when it comes to K. I don't think I ever snort less than 150-200 mg. So Doing like 25-50 mg bumps may actually help.
I don't have a lot of experience in low dose anything.
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: vandago]
#23738375 - 10/14/16 07:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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oh, well ya it's the low doses that help.
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: mushboy] 1
#23739233 - 10/15/16 06:08 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Alcohol withdrawal can kill you. Wean down, and/or enter a medically supervised detox.
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: Dark_Star]
#23743853 - 10/16/16 08:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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just in case anyone needs the info(first place i went too when i was freaking out was shroomery)
im doing a lot better! it was a hellish nightmare. way worse then a bad acid trip. by like a billion. i am really pissed i let myself get that bad. I came really close to calling 911 about twice. if i was insured i would have.
I smoked tons of weed. drank a big ass jug gatorade when it got bad and it helped. I also firmly believe my experience with tripping helped me out big time. i have no doubt i experienced mild DTs. i was able to ignore any kind of visual and just focused on my breathing when it got bad. it came in waves. i was even begging my wife for help but not too much she could do except say 'it will pass, hang in there'
drinking is fine. in fact i would encourage it within reason but do NOT go down that road of thinking your a rockstar and you can chug whiskey all day and use people who barely escaped death as role models.
overall it was the worse experience in my life.
back to growing shrooms. ill be in the cult forums. thanks everyone who gave input. helped a lot.
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: mushboy]
#23743922 - 10/16/16 09:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Glad to hear you made it through alright man! Hopefully its all smooth sailing from here
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#23743935 - 10/16/16 09:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Good luck with your sobriety!
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Yeah, this is really dangerous and it's hard to ween. I've had hallucinations(with cognition- not the DTs which are hallucinations without cognition) from this before. Thankfully never had a fit. But it's a genuine concern if you've been going for a decade. Librium, valium, and phenobarbital are ideal. Xanax is just really short; i've used it for this before and it can work but only briefly.
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: mushboy]
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: mushboy] 1
#23754411 - 10/20/16 10:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Liquor is one you taper off from, like opiates. When you get those feelings, have a drink until they're gone, and they get further apart. People have died stopping cold turkey, this is what killed Amy Winehouse.
And yes, the vitamins and hormones depleted by booze are B-vitamins, 5-HTP (Seratonin), GABA and, most importantly the amino acid Taurine, it feeds the nervous system.
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: mushboy]
#23762106 - 10/22/16 08:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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How you holding up OP?
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Alcohol wds are a nightmare. That feeling in your body is just pure discomfort. I find when you hit the purge just pouring sweat as I call it wrap yourself in multiple blankets and warm clothes and just sweat it out.
Don't let the sweat stop its toxins just dumping out of your body. It's the worst part you will sleep maybe 30 minutes at a time. But after that is when I finally feel good enough to eat something. Still not out of the woods but it's the hump. Generally another 2 days of bleh. But your body will keep getting stronger.
I flinch at loud unexpected sounds, shake when I have to talk to people. It's so bad. I'm done drinking after this latest one. Throwing up constantly just stomach acid. I'm going to end up killing myself if I don't.
Good luck op. I just purged the past 2 days. 22 hours on a bus for the first. Not a fun experience.
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: Enjoywho]
#23762361 - 10/22/16 09:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't think you actually sweat out toxins. I think it is just because your CNS is fucked in general. Otherwise people who aren't dependent would sweat too after they drink.
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Could be right that's just what I associate with it. After that I feel better. Fuck if I know. Been doing it for 5 years and after that I know I'm mostly out of the woods. Such a sticky nasty smelly sweat.
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moonrockmushy said: How you holding up OP?
fine. i have no desire for booze at all. thoroughly turned off.
the mushrooms were upset with me for my drinking. like i said before i havent tripped in 10 years but ive been drinking for 10 years instead.
cant wait to do some more shrooms and redeem my self to the mushgods.(myself)
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: mushboy]
#23764169 - 10/23/16 12:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have been nursing a hangover all day
This shit is so old
Maybe I need to eat some shrooms myself.
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: mushboy] 2
#24366372 - 05/31/17 08:45 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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fine. i have no desire for booze at all. thoroughly turned off.
the mushrooms were upset with me for my drinking. like i said before i havent tripped in 10 years but ive been drinking for 10 years instead.
cant wait to do some more shrooms and redeem my self to the mushgods.(myself)
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: mushboy]
#24366659 - 05/31/17 11:08 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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I thought I was bad.. I suppose none of us are perfect..
My best advice would be AA (relating to people) and of coarse you don't want to induce a physical withdraw so some alcohol is needed.. I'd say try a couple shots and an IPA and then eventually just a few IPA's.. I'm no doctor and by no means an expert on this type of treatment but ultimately it is up to you and your will power.. Mind you this wont be easy regardless but you shouldn't risk your life on a withdraw so you do need to find the balance and tip the scale in your favor my friend.
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: mushboy]
#24366884 - 06/01/17 03:08 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was a functioning, probably low level (compared to some anyway) alcoholic for several years. Literally nearly everyday I tossed back a 6 pack and a half pint of Jager before going to bed. Might not sound like much at all but man add all that up over the course of like 4-ish years, and that's a lot of alcohol. And a whole hell of a lot of money exiting my bank account.
But yeah when I stopped, it was pretty rough. I got the shakes. Maybe minor shakes but they were there. And in the aftermath my anxiety was pretty fucking high to say the least. I could barely function in a conversation without wanting to grab a drink.
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: Niffla]
#24367150 - 06/01/17 07:31 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Congrats mushboy. A little over three and a half months absent here. Since my last post in this thread, i did end up having a simple partial seizure and DT(DTs are psychosis with hallucinations and fever) episode. It really does get remarkably bad after a while. There comes a point where the only comfort is unconsciousness, with the extinction ov the buzz and the only other choices being sickly miserable drunkenness or terrible withdrawal.
That being said i miss alcohol and even some aspects ov alcoholism. I wish that i could drink on occasion and reap the benefits this great and equally terrible substance has to offer, but i cant do that for long before the bottle tips over and drowns me again. It's more ov a necessity to abstain than a desire. Job loss, 7 alcohol induced hospitalizations in 1.5 years, and 2 supervised detox stints. It gets a bit pressing to say the least.
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raindrop.drop.top said: I thought I was bad.. I suppose none of us are perfect..
My best advice would be AA (relating to people) and of coarse you don't want to induce a physical withdraw so some alcohol is needed.. I'd say try a couple shots and an IPA and then eventually just a few IPA's.. I'm no doctor and by no means an expert on this type of treatment but ultimately it is up to you and your will power.. Mind you this wont be easy regardless but you shouldn't risk your life on a withdraw so you do need to find the balance and tip the scale in your favor my friend.
oh the pub...
did you like, read anything i wrote? your advice is 7months old and shitty.
gawd i hate the pub. you'll know im either tripping really hard or suicidal if i post in here.
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: mushboy]
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I know this is an old post, but HELL MAN! Congratulations! 1 day off alone is great. & months..man that is inspirational.
After reading your posts, I am impressed and feel motivated myself in a lot of ways. Thanks Mushboy and keep on truckin' man
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: mushboy]
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My best advice would be AA (relating to people) and of coarse you don't want to induce a physical withdraw so some alcohol is needed.. I'd say try a couple shots and an IPA and then eventually just a few IPA's.. I'm no doctor and by no means an expert on this type of treatment but ultimately it is up to you and your will power.. Mind you this wont be easy regardless but you shouldn't risk your life on a withdraw so you do need to find the balance and tip the scale in your favor my friend.
oh the pub...
did you like, read anything i wrote? your advice is 7months old and shitty.
gawd i hate the pub. you'll know im either tripping really hard or suicidal if i post in here.
You must realize that you have placed this burden on yourself. There is no one else to blame. Apologize to those you have hurt but don't beat yourself up too bad.
.....I'm referring to posting in the pub, of course.
I'm at about 2 months and 3 days over here. A new record. Detoxed too many damn times. Now I'm hopelessly addicted to other empty carbohydrates like starbursts and skittles. I eat at least 3 apples a day to keep from rotting my teeth out.
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raindrop.drop.top said: I thought I was bad.. I suppose none of us are perfect..
My best advice would be AA (relating to people) and of coarse you don't want to induce a physical withdraw so some alcohol is needed.. I'd say try a couple shots and an IPA and then eventually just a few IPA's.. I'm no doctor and by no means an expert on this type of treatment but ultimately it is up to you and your will power.. Mind you this wont be easy regardless but you shouldn't risk your life on a withdraw so you do need to find the balance and tip the scale in your favor my friend.
oh the pub...
did you like, read anything i wrote? your advice is 7months old and shitty.
gawd i hate the pub. you'll know im either tripping really hard or suicidal if i post in here.
You must realize that you have placed this burden on yourself. There is no one else to blame. Apologize to those you have hurt but don't beat yourself up too bad.
.....I'm referring to posting in the pub, of course.
I'm at about 2 months and 3 days over here. A new record. Detoxed too many damn times. Now I'm hopelessly addicted to other empty carbohydrates like starbursts and skittles. I eat at least 3 apples a day to keep from rotting my teeth out.
believe it or not apples are estimates to be 4 times worse for your teeth than carbonated sodas. youre supposed to eat them fast to avoid this. i eat a bunch too, 2-3 a day
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That's a bump I like to see.
Congratulations
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That's why i use a banana suppository to get my potasium.
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Congratulations Mush....that is awesome!!
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thanks for the good vibes.
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You must realize that you have placed this burden on yourself. There is no one else to blame. Apologize to those you have hurt but don't beat yourself up too bad.
oh yea.. the pub.
i crave candy and shit too. i think its because booze was such a reward for everything i did. thats where my candy cravings come from. its more about quickly rewarding yourself. something our society feeds like drug habit in itself.
so i jerk off more, smoke more weed.. i the wife blows me wwaaayyy more often since im not a gross mess.
beyond that i have no cravings or desire for booze. sometimes i do but i can never justify it beyond a selfish desire.
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: mushboy]
#25546333 - 10/18/18 05:51 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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2yrs aint shit. still off the booze. have a few sips of different beer styles once in awhile. but no drinking 1.75l bottle in 48hrs for this drug zombie. still eating tons of shrooms. smoke tons of weed..
life aint bad either minus a few personal/life looses but thats life
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said: So I had a bad night a few nights ago and decided its time to stop drinking but ive been moderate to extremely heavy for 10 years. Last few months ive been doing about 750ml of whiskey a day.
I have no insurance but I'm feeling really nasty. Not mind but body. I get what feels like a panic attack onset but it fizzlez out.
I think my b12 is fucked because I have like every symptom of anemia(b12 helps to make red blood cells)
I'd love to go to a hospital just for piece of mind and continue to detox by limiting whiskey to 2-3 shots ...maybe I should consume more to curve withdrawl but I'm sick of booze to no end.
Thanks for reading my crap
Oops should be in well being forum??
I went through the same shit. It can be a long difficult road, but I can be done. I took up chocolate. Sounds dumb, but it helps.
The trick is to stay busy. Boredom is the devil.
Do you have anyone in your corner fighting for you? Do you have anyone you can call if the urges start coming on? I bet somewhere here on the shroomery wouldn't mind talking with you over the phone.
Just know that sobriety can be accomplished, but only by you. You do what works best for you. Your road might be different than mine, but we are both headed to the same place.
Stay strong.
A few things that helped me...
Working out Sweets Video games  Family Reading
I was also taking magnesium at night too. I still do.
Oh, that nasty body feeling will leave. Drink lots of water and Gatorade. Start eating fruit too.
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: mushboy]
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said: drinking is fine. in fact i would encourage it within reason but do NOT go down that road of thinking your a rockstar and you can chug whiskey all day and use people who barely escaped death as role models.
Even "within reason", I really don't believe it can be justifiable to drink socially or moderately for you, or anyone that has become addicted to alcohol.
So many nights after months, or even close to a year of not drinking, I'd reward myself of course with a drink for doing activities that made me feel good. Hiking, MTB, etc.
First night I would always be all responsible and drink a couple dank beers at an awesome ski town bar. 2 days later I'd wake up with a handle of whiskey and a case of shitty beer empty, strewn all over my house, with my best friend cooking crack in my loft and jacking off in the closet . This hasn't happened for close to 4 years. But I remember it vividly as it became an every day occurrence for quite some time. (not the friend whacking it in the closed deal) My saving grace was that having had a severe opioid addiction for 4 years of my life while young, I noticed when my brain and body were becoming addicted. I still pushed it. But pulled out before any serious DT's. Super mild ones, in fact (but I feel your pain. detoxed from Klonopin in jail...fuck). Got back in shape and the rest is history.
I've done (still am) doing drug therapy classes to deal with my opiate addiction that I've been clean 9 years from. At least finding root problems, and even though I have no desires nowadays to indulge in those drugs, I'm sure if I was presented with a bag of H right now, I'd have a real fucking hard time turning it down.
To deal with what I believe to be pretty bad alcoholism for about two years shortly after becoming a member here, drug counseling has also been pretty wonderful.
I do relationship therapy as well after the the despicable hellhole my ex put me through. In which a lot of our problems stemmed from putting me down during recovery, in which I was was and am doing wonderfully. Haven't been drunk in years. Haven't had a drink in well over a year.
With any addictive drug, what I find hardest is all the activities you enjoyed before you became an addict, but then associated those activities with drinking or drugs. You have to force yourself to go do those activities again without being fucked up. It will be boring and shitty at first. Maybe for a year or longer, but you will learn to love it again.
Wish you the best, man. As people have mentioned, there's a lot of members on here willing to help out. Whether through PM or phone calls or emails. What have you. I'm here if you need me bud.
(Oh, yea. And mushrooms & weed have greatly helped me through this fucked up journey)
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: kr0nik0]
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do any of you people read the whole thread?
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are you kidding? most people don't even bother to read the body text of the original post and just reply to the title
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are you kidding? most people don't even bother to read the body text of the original post and just reply to the title

Be glad people are even posting in your thread.
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: mushboy]
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Yep. Congrats on getting there, and thank you for sharing the journey with us. You're not the only one that has struggle(d/es) with drinking too much.
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Re: booze withdrawal [Re: dekanem]
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Congratulations Mush
Im at day 702
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mushboy said: do any of you people read the whole thread?
Sorry man. I was headed out of the house and just wanted to share my story. Still haven't read the OP, just went off of context which was obviously wrong.
I apologize.
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Sorry man. I was headed out of the house and just wanted to share my story. Still haven't read the OP, just went off of context which was obviously wrong.
I apologize.
Same as me... 
Still havnt read it. I just like talking about myself.
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mushboy said: do any of you people read the whole thread?
Sorry man. I was headed out of the house and just wanted to share my story. Still haven't read the OP, just went off of context which was obviously wrong.
I apologize.
Same as me... 
Still havnt read it. I just like talking about myself.
If there's already 20+ replies in a thread, chances are I've already thought about and am in the process of posting something that only relates to the title, or the latest post I see from OP. I need to work on my listening skills, says my therapist
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