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I think salvia is really gentle and benigh
    #23735549 - 10/13/16 09:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I've been smoking salvia lately I think it has a gained an undeserved bad rep. Ive yet to have a bad trip on it aside from my first few experiences where it was just too weird/shocking for me. But after I came to understand its unique spirit a little better, I actually think it is more benign than acid and shrooms. The trip is over so quick and it doesnt put you in those difficult spaces than acid and shrooms can. Its not relentless like they can be. and of course I mean in sane doses, those folks on youtbe taking bong rips of 80x extract are basically doing the euqivalent of taking 14 grams of mushrooms for their first time.


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Re: I think salvia is really gentle and benigh [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23735627 - 10/13/16 10:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I agree on the undeserved bad rep, salvinorin is one of the most potent substances out there, but since its cheap and legal and looks harmless, people dose it carelessly and then whine when their face melts.


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Re: I think salvia is really gentle and benigh [Re: thoraxx]
    #23735715 - 10/13/16 11:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I hear sublingual is even better than smoked. Anyone have experience?


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Re: I think salvia is really gentle and benigh [Re: thoraxx]
    #23736119 - 10/14/16 05:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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people dose it carelessly and then whine when their face melts.




So true.


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Re: I think salvia is really gentle and benigh [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #23736147 - 10/14/16 06:05 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Only people who smoke 80x thinking it will be like weed give it a bad Rep.

It's a great compound IMO.


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Re: I think salvia is really gentle and benigh [Re: impaired420]
    #23736193 - 10/14/16 06:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Lol all I have is 80x and it's illegal in my state. I might grow a plant eventually when I learn to stop killing my plants, but is there anyway to use 80x safely? I mean is it possible to take a small enough dose or is it just too potent?


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Re: I think salvia is really gentle and benigh [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #23736403 - 10/14/16 08:54 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

x10 did me wonders, I appreciate the plant . I haven't dived into the deeper waters tho so that is still to be explored ..


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Re: I think salvia is really gentle and benigh [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #23736457 - 10/14/16 09:15 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Lol all I have is 80x and it's illegal in my state. I might grow a plant eventually when I learn to stop killing my plants, but is there anyway to use 80x safely? I mean is it possible to take a small enough dose or is it just too potent?





I'm not so sure, I'd imagine even .1grams would be about the equivalent to about 10x extract.


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Re: I think salvia is really gentle and benigh [Re: impaired420]
    #23736881 - 10/14/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah it can be a night of uncontrolled laughter in low doses but really as with DMT the higher doses are what the experience is really all about, and allow you to see the forrest from the trees (or the higher entities from the lower).

I dont advocate stupid doses but a high dose will give you a much better understanding and overview of the experience whether it be with LSD, DMT or salvia.

I dont agree low doses are 'respecting' the substance and believe Salvia much prefers to show what it is capable of!

Salvia can show you true ego death! You'll never know you were ever born! A true why the, when the, what the, where the fuck am I? But you'll be too gone even to be asking these questions or to even know what questions/answers are!

Total confusion and Silent terror, a truly hideous vision of reality and human insignificance, it fucking wipes you out and erases you, but that I beleive is what it wants to show you- that you are nothing!

I went back to all of the psychedelics despite having terrfying experiences but Salvia is one I could never bring myself to go back to. Mainly though because I simply didnt enjoy it!


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Re: I think salvia is really gentle and benigh [Re: wolf8312]
    #23736974 - 10/14/16 12:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I think each compound has it's uses for each dose. If you overdose on any drug it will be terrifying and unenjoyable,sometimes even fatal.

I truly feel that a drug that is active in micrograms ranges shouldn't be abused

Anything you feel you should experience on salvia WILL happen and it doesn't require huge doses either.

You won't take 750mg of mdma and have a good time ( usually)
You won't take 1+mg of LSD and have a good time.
You won't smoke 100x salvia and have a good time.

The only difference between a drug and a poison is the dose.


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Re: I think salvia is really gentle and benigh [Re: impaired420]
    #23737101 - 10/14/16 01:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Salvia lessons lead to groundbreaking conclusions. I agree with everything that others have said about it here.

We, Salvia heads, are a truly rare kind of trippers.

I believe that smoking Salvia is a true tripper's benchmark.


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Re: I think salvia is really gentle and benigh [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #23737183 - 10/14/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Ughhh I still want to try Salvia. I'll get my hands on some sometime.

The Kappa-opioid receptor activity just seems like it would be such a unique and different kind of trip.


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Re: I think salvia is really gentle and benigh [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23738308 - 10/14/16 07:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

i agree with you wholeheartedly, but like everyone says, it all depends on set and setting.

a few times me and friends would smoke it just to laugh at one another and laugh TOO hard at nonsense. its kinda cool at lower doses because a few times if i smoke it with another person, we usually vibe really well. almost like we're both privy to a secret joke that's hilarious and super insightful but we definitely can't put it into words.

the absolute best way i've experienced salvia is at night, completely ready for bed. i lay down, hit it, hold it for as long as possible and then blast off into a different dimension. it felt strange but a lot more calm and introspective than when doing it around a bunch of people.

but when in the wrong situation with the wrong people who don't want to laugh with you, salvia feels extremely abrasive.


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Re: I think salvia is really gentle and benigh [Re: zero123]
    #23738346 - 10/14/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Im really interested in salvia, i have harvested and dried some leaves off my plant, and also have a small amount of extract, I think its 10x.

I may try some plain leaf soon when time allows. See what she does :smile:

Also heard reports of people thinking theyre a box, or wallpaper so i think ill start small haha!


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Re: I think salvia is really gentle and benigh [Re: Spellbound]
    #23738527 - 10/14/16 08:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I've been the ziper in a jacket. Fun stuff.

Highest I've gone is 10x, IMHO nothing over 20x is necessary.
I smoke the leaf pretty regularly and it is very mellow and almost weed like I've been told. I've let around 10 people smoke plain leaf in my care and they all but one thoroughly enjoyed it.

I've even smoked 10x on 125ug 1p-LSD and that was the most profound experience I've had to date.

It's such a beautiful unique compound I feel blessed to be able to grow ample amounts of it :lol:


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Re: I think salvia is really gentle and benigh [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #23739214 - 10/15/16 05:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Dr. Delban said:
Quote:

thoraxx said:
people dose it carelessly and then whine when their face melts.




So true.


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Dr. Delban said:
Quote:

thoraxx said:
people dose it carelessly and then whine when their face melts.




So true.


:hahthatsrich:




Real men melt their face with dignity and smile about it  ! ^_^ XD


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Re: I think salvia is really gentle and benigh [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23739944 - 10/15/16 01:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, even when smoked in a joint, plain leaf is great.
It creates this trippy high that lasts maybe half an hour, depending on how fast you smoke and how potent the joint is.

Salvia can be gentle when doses low, and then it's quite enjoyable.

I did some high doses with a bong as well as some 12x extract years ago, but those experiences are not as enjoyable and beneficial as my low, mellow trips I had with plain leaf.

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Re: I think salvia is really gentle and benigh [Re: Pandemoon]
    #23739985 - 10/15/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

In a joint do you mix it with weed then or just salvia? I will try some soon when not working i think and see how goes it. Ill try in a joint first rather than blast myself with the bong ha!


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Re: I think salvia is really gentle and benigh [Re: Spellbound]
    #23740220 - 10/15/16 03:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I rolled a joint with peppermint and salvia. It was pretty good tbh.


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Re: I think salvia is really gentle and benigh [Re: impaired420]
    #23740542 - 10/15/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I've never had anything happen smoking salvia.. Gotten it from several different vendors over the years, in up to 20x and never had a trip at all.. At the end I was so frustrated with it I quit even trying altogether and gave away what I had left..


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Re: I think salvia is really gentle and benigh [Re: Space Coast Slayer]
    #23741457 - 10/16/16 04:36 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

try with a gravity bong


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Re: I think salvia is really gentle and benigh [Re: Spellbound]
    #23741490 - 10/16/16 05:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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In a joint do you mix it with weed then or just salvia? I will try some soon when not working i think and see how goes it. Ill try in a joint first rather than blast myself with the bong ha!




I'm a daily potsmoker, I never thought about rolling a Salvia-only joint so far.. :cookiemonster:
But it should work the same way. Salvia boosts weed when smoked together, it's a mild, trippy enhancer, I like that. :thumbup:

Salvia's effects are instant, you feel it right after you exhale.
So while smoking the joint you already start tripping, and with each puff it gets trippier for a minute or two.

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