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OfflineThe Ecstatic
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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #23743839 - 10/16/16 08:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Exactly, hence my comment about the Gulf of Tonkin.


Makes no sense theyd launch some half assed missiles at a US Navy destroyer.


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23743971 - 10/16/16 09:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Agreed.  :thumbup:


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23744545 - 10/17/16 05:36 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Oh yeah?  Go read about Operation Praying Mantis.  I was there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Praying_Mantis

The IRanians are not our friends.  Take the head out before you suffocate.


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: starfire_xes] * 1
    #23744777 - 10/17/16 08:15 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

more non sequiturs weeeeee


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23744904 - 10/17/16 09:10 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The Iranians know Obama is a paper tiger.  They are jerking his chain. 


Oh, I see your logic now.  Obama makes this deal, gives them boatloads of cash, in some kind of 'peace effort' or whatever his reasoning was, then turns around and fakes attacks against us so he can attack them. 

Wow, BRILLIANT.


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23745104 - 10/17/16 10:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Obama makes this deal, gives them boatloads of cash, in some kind of 'peace effort' or whatever his reasoning was, then turns around and fakes attacks against us so he can attack them. 

Wow, BRILLIANT.



I don't understand your post.  Do you believe Yemen wants to go to war with the US?


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23746528 - 10/17/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

No.  I believe IRAN wants to fuck with the US because there is no way Ball-less Bama the Great Black Dope is going to 'ruin his legacy'  They've done it before, they are still doing it.  It's like the hostage crisis during carters term. 

The Iran 'Students' that had captured the american embassy started dancing and making noise around the soviet embassy.  It stopped because the Russian premier gave them a call and told them if they took Russia's embassy personnel hostages, then the day after there wouldn't be any more Iran.

It's the difference between a credible threat and an empty telegraphed motion--like the line in the sand--where the other side knows they can do anything without consequence. 

Basically, the Obama administration, after 'securing their legacy' with the idiotic iran deal, are like a bunch of tame old circus lions, full of food, who can be lightly baited with impunity.


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23746579 - 10/17/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'm in favor of the Iran deal, and even if we are fighting via proxy in Yemen, our relationship w/Iran will hopefully
carry through and continue to improve. Having the Shia (Iran), Sunni (Saudia Arabia), and Turkish powerhouses of
the middle east nominally aligned with the United States just might permit the region some stability.

Poor Houthis though


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: Crumist] * 1
    #23747116 - 10/17/16 08:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

What is Iran's end game if they are actually trying to be aggressors?

"Lets build nukes and agitate the Saudis, thatll piss off the US."

And then what? They go the way of Iraq. The current regime is dismantled. Hundreds of thousands die. Economy grinds to a halt....


Come on, starfire. Youre not that naive. WE are the agitators here. We're trying to force Iran into doing something reckless, so we have carte blanche to go in and topple their government (again).


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
    #23747292 - 10/17/16 09:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Come on, starfire. Youre not that naive. WE are the agitators here. We're trying to force Iran into doing something reckless, so we have carte blanche to go in and topple their government (again).




And then afterwards, people will put up a big stink about iranian refugees.


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23747507 - 10/17/16 10:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Dude, they fired two missiles at our ships that almost hit. They could have killed a lot of people. Fuck that country, I'm glad we hit it.

Frankly, we should flatten their entire government just on principle as an example to the others. Don't fuck with us. You fire missiles at us, you get completely destroyed.

Besides, that country is a shithole anyway, it's not like we're destroying much.


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: nooneman] * 4
    #23748443 - 10/18/16 10:01 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Do you really think like this? Might makes right?
No Americans get hurt but you want to invade and risk the lives of thousands of Americans
and millions of Iranian civilians? For what? To soothe a slight to some projection of your ego?
Fuck that.

EDIT: I may have missed the sarcasm in the post above :wow:


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: Crumist]
    #23750666 - 10/18/16 10:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

America wants to take over the world! Some other countries want to also, it will be a fight to the death.


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: ballsalsa] * 3
    #23751539 - 10/19/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Come on, starfire. Youre not that naive. WE are the agitators here. We're trying to force Iran into doing something reckless, so we have carte blanche to go in and topple their government (again).




And then afterwards, people will put up a big stink about iranian refugees.




And blame the Iranians for trying to run away from a mess they obviously caused on their own.


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23751620 - 10/19/16 10:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Come on, starfire. Youre not that naive. WE are the agitators here. We're trying to force Iran into doing something reckless, so we have carte blanche to go in and topple their government (again).




And then afterwards, people will put up a big stink about iranian refugees.




And blame the Iranians for trying to run away from a mess they obviously caused on their own.




Many have already illegally entered the EU for a better standard of living, who's fault is that?


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: qman] * 1
    #23751636 - 10/19/16 10:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

There are millions of refugees coming from a very wide geographical area and therefore we can't point to 1 singlular cause, but if you put a gun to my head and forced me to choose I'd say its probably colonialism's fault :shrug:


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: Crumist]
    #23751659 - 10/19/16 10:54 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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There are millions of refugees coming from a very wide geographical area and therefore we can't point to 1 singlular cause, but if you put a gun to my head and forced me to choose I'd say its probably colonialism's fault :shrug:




They're NOT "refugees", finally Merkel, EU leaders and the UN have acknowledge the very vast majority are economic migrants looking for a better standard of living.

"colonialism's fault"

Of course you would because that's your mentality, who's fault is it that Africa's population is exploding and they're flooding into the EU as a result?  People that don't like wearing condoms.


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: qman] * 2
    #23751674 - 10/19/16 11:03 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

So to prove that colonialism is not at fault for a region mired in conflict, you're gonna use Africa as a counterexample to the ME?  It just seems like an odd choice to me.


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: qman] * 1
    #23752705 - 10/19/16 05:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Come on, starfire. Youre not that naive. WE are the agitators here. We're trying to force Iran into doing something reckless, so we have carte blanche to go in and topple their government (again).




And then afterwards, people will put up a big stink about iranian refugees.




And blame the Iranians for trying to run away from a mess they obviously caused on their own.




Many have already illegally entered the EU for a better standard of living, who's fault is that?




A lot of people.


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: qman]
    #23753281 - 10/19/16 09:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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qman said:They're NOT "refugees", finally Merkel, EU leaders and the UN have acknowledge the very vast majority are economic migrants looking for a better standard of living




They ARE refugees.


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