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OfflineThe Ecstatic
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    #23735276 - 10/13/16 08:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Gulf of Tonkin, anyone? Anyone?


Two sorry ass missiles get allegedly fired towards a US destroyer in the Gulf of Aden and now we're shelling Houthi controlled areas near the coast.

So I guess the Saudis are having trouble propping up their peninsular puppet state with our weapons, now we need the US Navy to get involved.

Houthi Rebels, Bashar al Assad. Iran's last regional friends. Weird how those are threats to our existence all of a sudden.


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
    #23735303 - 10/13/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

2017, shits gone be poppin off, aliens are going to disclose themselves, WWIII gonna break out, shits gon be lit fam.


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: Lucis]
    #23735482 - 10/13/16 09:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The oil market has little concern, business as usual. :cookiemonster:


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: Lucis] * 1
    #23735669 - 10/13/16 10:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Fennario said:
2017, shits gone be poppin off, aliens are going to disclose themselves, WWIII gonna break out, shits gon be lit fam.




DEFCON is at alert status 3 same as the cuban missile crisis ans september 11 :uhoh:


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: tHEfLY]
    #23735736 - 10/13/16 11:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Woops posted in the pub didn't know there was a thread about it yet but has a little more detail about the situation.


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23735981 - 10/14/16 03:13 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Gulf of Tonkin, anyone? Anyone?


Two sorry ass missiles get allegedly fired towards a US destroyer in the Gulf of Aden and now we're shelling Houthi controlled areas near the coast.

So I guess the Saudis are having trouble propping up their peninsular puppet state with our weapons, now we need the US Navy to get involved.

Houthi Rebels, Bashar al Assad. Iran's last regional friends. Weird how those are threats to our existence all of a sudden.




Hopefully not. We don't need another war, but maybe I'm being naïve. I always read that WWII was the only thing that got us out of the Great Depression. Economic indicators, under Obama are tremendously better than internet Republicans would argue, but I know things are still tuff on main street. Yes we are manipulating the economy; we manipulated the fuck out of the economy during the so called "Reagan Recovery".

    I doubt another war will help the economy, but probably both parties have a vested interest. Suitcases full of money from the lobbyists for everybody who is connected.


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
    #23736151 - 10/14/16 06:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Imagine when Clinton is in charge.. all this shit will only just continue and get worse. Maybe its naive of me to think so but I think Obama at least tried to be a little restrained, even if that wasn't always helpful.

Its a disgrace. Also the fact that the Saudis bombed a funeral killing over 700150 people the other day.. we arm them with those weapons...

Edit: 150 killed, over 700 injured.


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Edited by Tipote (10/16/16 11:08 AM)


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: The Ecstatic] * 3
    #23736153 - 10/14/16 06:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

We've been "shelling" Yemen in one form or another since before 2009. It is completely
absurd and utterly immoral of the US.

Fuck Bashar al-Asad though.


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: Crumist]
    #23736171 - 10/14/16 06:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

i wonder if Clinton would go after Iran. probably, if the Israelis want her to.


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: Tipote] * 3
    #23736191 - 10/14/16 06:50 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I really don't think so, the US and Iran are (were?) in a period of warming relations. So long as Russia/Syria drama doesn't fuck
everything up, having Saudia Arabia and Iran on the same side might mean actual progress in the Middle East.


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: Brian Jones]
    #23736321 - 10/14/16 08:27 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Brian Jones said:
Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
Gulf of Tonkin, anyone? Anyone?


Two sorry ass missiles get allegedly fired towards a US destroyer in the Gulf of Aden and now we're shelling Houthi controlled areas near the coast.

So I guess the Saudis are having trouble propping up their peninsular puppet state with our weapons, now we need the US Navy to get involved.

Houthi Rebels, Bashar al Assad. Iran's last regional friends. Weird how those are threats to our existence all of a sudden.




Hopefully not. We don't need another war, but maybe I'm being naïve. I always read that WWII was the only thing that got us out of the Great Depression. Economic indicators, under Obama are tremendously better than internet Republicans would argue, but I know things are still tuff on main street. Yes we are manipulating the economy; we manipulated the fuck out of the economy during the so called "Reagan Recovery".

    I doubt another war will help the economy, but probably both parties have a vested interest. Suitcases full of money from the lobbyists for everybody who is connected.




"Economic indicators, under Obama are tremendously better than internet Republicans would argue"

The "indicators" suck, just ask Bernie supporters. Do you pay attention to economic trends? 

How is 1% GDP growth with $20 trillion of debt a good sign?  We are in a big mess, the real trouble is down the road.


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: qman] * 4
    #23736383 - 10/14/16 08:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

We need not obsess over the debt. Lets tackle the deficit first.

How do we accomplish a balanced budget, in your mind?


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23736455 - 10/14/16 09:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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We need not obsess over the debt. Lets tackle the deficit first.

How do we accomplish a balanced budget, in your mind?




Get rid of the imbalances (trade and currency).

We are artificially propping up the dollar to create these highly profitable imbalances. It will eventually blow up in their faces because it's becoming very challenging to keep it up.


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: qman] * 3
    #23736614 - 10/14/16 10:09 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

"To balance the budget we need to get rid of the imbalances."


No shit. How.


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: qman] * 2
    #23736642 - 10/14/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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qman said:
Quote:

Brian Jones said:
Economic indicators, under Obama are tremendously better than internet Republicans would argue, but I know things are still tuff on main street. Yes we are manipulating the economy; we manipulated the fuck out of the economy during the so called "Reagan Recovery".



The "indicators" suck, just ask Bernie supporters. Do you pay attention to economic trends?



Unemployment is back to normal and corporate profits are at record highs.  The only indicator that's down is the share of money going to the middle class.

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How is 1% GDP growth with $20 trillion of debt a good sign?  We are in a big mess, the real trouble is down the road.



First of all, it's already been pointed out to you that population growth has slowed, but GDP growth per capita is actually very stable, so that's not an issue:



And no one argues that $20 trillion debt is good, but we've come out of this level of debt before by raising taxes on the rich, raising minimum wage for the poor, and having a strong pro-union attitude:



You can see that Reagan's trickle down economic plan (give everything to the rich) is what fucked the country over.  I'm astounded that you still support this.


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 3
    #23736797 - 10/14/16 11:07 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Every single time I bring up how tax cuts caused the deficit and debt to skyrocket, he reverts back to his debt to GDP ratio argument. As if that trickle down mentality isnt what got us there...


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23736836 - 10/14/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yup.  :smirk:

That's why I keep posting the Debt/GDP chart, which clearly shows Reaganomics is primarily responsible for the current debt problem.


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23736889 - 10/14/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Quote:

qman said:
Quote:

Brian Jones said:
Economic indicators, under Obama are tremendously better than internet Republicans would argue, but I know things are still tuff on main street. Yes we are manipulating the economy; we manipulated the fuck out of the economy during the so called "Reagan Recovery".



The "indicators" suck, just ask Bernie supporters. Do you pay attention to economic trends?



Unemployment is back to normal and corporate profits are at record highs.  The only indicator that's down is the share of money going to the middle class.

Quote:

qman said:
How is 1% GDP growth with $20 trillion of debt a good sign?  We are in a big mess, the real trouble is down the road.



First of all, it's already been pointed out to you that population growth has slowed, but GDP growth per capita is actually very stable, so that's not an issue:



And no one argues that $20 trillion debt is good, but we've come out of this level of debt before by raising taxes on the rich, raising minimum wage for the poor, and having a strong pro-union attitude:



You can see that Reagan's trickle down economic plan (give everything to the rich) is what fucked the country over.  I'm astounded that you still support this.




Are you suggesting that GDP can't go higher simply because of population growth rates?  If so, why do you even argue against income inequality? A pick up in demand would increase GDP regardless of population growth.

"I'm astounded that you still support this"

What makes you think I do, or you're just wrongfully speculating once again?


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23736894 - 10/14/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Every single time I bring up how tax cuts caused the deficit and debt to skyrocket, he reverts back to his debt to GDP ratio argument. As if that trickle down mentality isnt what got us there...




What makes you think I'm arguing "trickle down"? :shrug:


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Re: US Warships Now Shelling Yemen "In Self Defense" [Re: qman] * 3
    #23736896 - 10/14/16 11:46 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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qman said:
Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
Every single time I bring up how tax cuts caused the deficit and debt to skyrocket, he reverts back to his debt to GDP ratio argument. As if that trickle down mentality isnt what got us there...




What makes you think I'm arguing "trickle down"? :shrug:




Your entire post history.

If we've all got you wrong, please clarify. The deficit, debt, and gdp to debt ratio were all greatly exacerbated by tax cuts for the wealthy. And you dont want to raise those even close to where they were in the 60s, so whats the plan?


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