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Re: Brain damage from prolonged drug use [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #23784452 - 10/30/16 05:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I love weed but it was just making me anxious and awkward around others...




I think how you use weed, is what gives you that effect. If you're using it to run from yourself, then yeah, when you're around others and have a ton of emotional baggage, you'll get anxious of them seeing through the mask.

In other words, if you don't feel OK, but smoke weed to make it look like you do, well it may kinda work, but at least one person (you) knows it's a lie. And liars generally have anxiety about being found out.

Am not saying you were doing this stuff consciously, am just saying I've never seen a link between weed and anxiety. Whereas between self-distracting or avoidance behavior and anxiety, that I have. Doesn't matter if it's self-distracting by being a pothead, various pills, gambling, drinking, video games. As soon as the means to distract is not around, the usual issues come up for attention and oooooh shit :eek: :lol:

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My buddy mainly abused oxy everyday for a couple years and his speech changes throughout the day, even while sober. Like the more tired he gets the more he slurs and sounds like he's wasted. Hard drugs are fucked!



Why are we blaming the choices of your buddy on the hard drugs? I mean if a guy starts drinking to get away from internal trouble, are we blaming the shot liver and ruined life on the alcohol? Cause to me it seems like a pretty obvious case of "gone dunnit to yourself". We all get stress, not all of us drink about it, or shoot up, or whatever. Plenty of choice of how to cope. Can always get in a ring and hit a guy over the head, as in boxing or martial arts.

I've wasted tons of time and energy on porn and video games, thousands and thousands of hours. I could have been an accomplished sculptor, juggler, knife thrower, whatever, if I put that time into something more useful. I didn't. I don't blame the video game industry, I realize it was my fucked up decision at the time, and still I say it's likely the lesser of to evils, as if I'd have been outside dealing with life, girls and such, maybe I would have started drinking or smoking to take the edge off, and that would have been way worse (by my standards).

In any case, am saying let's not blame the substance for the decisions of the dude that thinks it's a good idea to take it. The decision is fucked, not the molecule.


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Re: Brain damage from prolonged drug use [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #23784732 - 10/30/16 09:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I had a hard time in college due to a couple years of increasingly regular use of laced weed, DXM, and alcohol in high school. The most important thing is to be sober and let your brain recover. In college I drank and smoked weed. Good weed not harmful laced kind, but these activities greatly slowed my cognitive recovery. After college when I finally learned the value of sobriety my brain has recovered quite well.

Getting enough cardio is important too for neurogenesis. And eat fish or fish oil regularly, and maintain your nutritional balance and a probiotic regimen. Good luck.


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Re: Brain damage from prolonged drug use [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23785041 - 10/30/16 11:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Edited by Anonymous (03/23/20 08:54 PM)


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Re: Brain damage from prolonged drug use [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #23785285 - 10/30/16 12:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

He could have an unrelated neurological condition that caused his speech to be slurred, so you might be wrong there.  I've known a fair number of people who used hard drugs and none of them developed speech issues.


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Re: Brain damage from prolonged drug use [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #23785314 - 10/30/16 12:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I wasn't blaming his choices on "hard drugs" I just meant that if he were abusing weed or something relatively benign than his speech wouldn't be impaired.



Well whatever it is we get into, from fatty junk foods to smoking drinking snorting shooting up, we always have some access to the "vibe" of that substance, for lack of a better word.

While in line at McDonald's or at the bar or liquor store, you kind of get a feel for the convos going on there, or if you have some dodgy dealer or fellow drug abusers, you generally can get a feel sooner or later, as to what happens with someone that does your drug of choice, over the long run.

I for instance have a pretty good idea what happens to shroomers, shamans, psytrance people, I know they get goofy colorful clothes, become more colorful and develop a peculiar fetish for barefoot juggling or spinning objects. Poi, hula hoops, what have you. All of those are known side effects of tripping on these things, which I gladly welcome. On the other had when my Salvia dealer got into Ketamine, I've seen his vibe / personality change, and no matter how much he told me to give it a shot I was like no way Jose :lol:

When your friend chose oxy, and to abuse it every day, well guaranteed there was some voice in the back of his mind that was telling him, dude are you sure about this shit? But was actively silenced and pressed snooze on, just like smokers or drinkers do with theirs. For instance it amuses me to no end how of all smokers I've spoken to, many with many decades of smoking experience, not a single one of them actually smoked a cig from start to finish with eyes closed. One of them said he had, but I have my doubts. And I have my doubts because the only smoker I've seen make an attempt, hated it, got a headache and couldn't really finish the cig, and he was actually a pretty hardcore smoker otherwise.

So am saying that all of us, all the time, do have that little voice in the back of our heads that tells us what helps us or fucks us up, we just choose different degrees of heeding or ignoring it, playing stupid to get one more fix in.

Just tell your friend to stay hydrated, of booze cigs and coffee/stims, take that turmeric, spirulina, plenty of cocoa (for the flavonoids), Omega 3 fatty acids, from whatever, fish, eating more greens, switching to olive and raps oil instead of palm / sunflower. Cardio, as someone said above, and he'll at least gradually improve. I suspect much of this speed impediment stuff can also have emotional basis, and so maybe stuff like hypnotherapy may help. Tai Chi or Qi Gong, slow controlled body movement, might do some stuff as well, depends why that impediment is there in the first place.


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Re: Brain damage from prolonged drug use [Re: RedNucleus]
    #23787736 - 10/31/16 08:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Weed laced with what ?

No need to be nervous about nootropics.  The oldest one , piracetam, has been around a long time and is extensively tested and very safe.

Alcohol and benzos cause brain damage/ cognitive impairment.

Cannabis and mushrooms actually stimulate neurogenesis/ the growth of new brain cells.

Mdma causes temporary damage to serotonin receptors. Meth causes long term damage to dopamine receptors.


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Re: Brain damage from prolonged drug use [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23788913 - 10/31/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Edited by Anonymous (03/23/20 08:55 PM)


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Re: Brain damage from prolonged drug use [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #23789265 - 10/31/16 05:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Anon just use your common sense and intuition on this, gut feeling. Both online and off.

Can't tell you how many times I've done this and then later I found some scientific data that shows me what the intuition thing was good for.

Example for me is spirulina. I just got drawn to it, and then I find that it does all manner of things with neurogenesis, make new neurons grow nice and strong :laugh:

Same for cocoa, same for avoiding all kinds of things. Some of them I just do "on faith" for now, but I know they will connect later. I know to trust intuition rather than always requesting logical explanations from science for everything. I just know that instinct often gives us the goods long before science finds it, or finds theoretical explanations for it.

Just make like a pregnant woman and eat anything that your body calls you to, because there's solid reasons behind those cravings. Know that alcohol, sugar and excess carbs/starches are bad, so don't give in to sugar cravings, that's not helping, but the rest, whatever natural food strikes your fancy, go for it, know that it'll help rebuild faster.


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