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Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? * 1
    #23733851 - 10/13/16 11:49 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

As a staunch Sanders supporter, I'm absolutely disgusted with the media. Their selective coverage, bias and shilling really angers me. After having read about all of the back door deals the media and Clinton campaign have made, I will never trust the mainstream media again. Trump isn't a perfect candidate by any means, but as a BernBrah who is also part of the #neverhillary group, I think I'm going to defect to Trump this time around. It's not even cause I like Trump. It's just cause the collusion between the media, the White House, the big banks and Hillarys campaign makes me sick to my stomach.

Bottom line: I don't believe the media anymore, do you?


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10] * 1
    #23733867 - 10/13/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah... The media... I don't even think they know if what they say is true or not at this point. They just read the piece fpaper put in front of them


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Patlal]
    #23733903 - 10/13/16 12:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Most democrats believe the media, but only certain ones, they don't believe any media who publish anti Hillary stories

It's no longer news, it's just the broadcasting of agendas

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Yeah... The media... I don't even think they know if what they say is true or not at this point. They just read the piece fpaper put in front of them




He's referring to the media, the people who write these stories and those who decide what will air and what won't, not so much the talking heads


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #23733938 - 10/13/16 12:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah they don't really get pieces of paper put in front of them. Most journalists and pundits make the conscious choice to be bias. They have the option to report on real, consequential news. They'd rather just be shills. I don't get it


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10]
    #23733963 - 10/13/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Many "journalists" have gotten that job precisely because they ARE biased and shills for the democrat party


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: hostileuniverse] * 2
    #23734028 - 10/13/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I only believe the media when it reaffirms my world view. If it attempts to introduce new world views that I hadn't considered before, I ensure it's either CNN or Fox News. If they both have opposing views, I draw from a hat to decide which side to assume a hard line stance from.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23734059 - 10/13/16 01:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Many "journalists" have gotten that job precisely because they ARE biased and shills for the democrat party



Good point. They're only famous journalists in the first place because they were establishment-cock-sucking, lying shills. So dishonest. The media are absolute scum.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23734061 - 10/13/16 01:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Seems like it


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10]
    #23734109 - 10/13/16 01:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

it depends on the media outlet and the issue at hand. Fox news is wrong about everything, CNN almost everything. Canadian news is ok, european news too often. Really you gotta check out various sources on a single issue imo to get anything close to the real picture, especially if it concerns contentious issues

the american media unfortunately is compromised by corporate and political interests to such an extent outsiders joke about how bad it is, which isn't to say other countries don't have that problem but it's just a shame the self proclaimed land of the free is in fact not as free as it could or ought to be, or even as it has previously been


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Ezuma]
    #23734134 - 10/13/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It really is sad. Most people in the US want the same things. Prosperity, a comfortable life, freedom, happiness. We could all work together and move towards these goals, but we don't work together, and the media is a huge reason why. Every single little event or thing reported on by the MSM gets sensationalized to be much more than it is, and they always portray it in a way that makes it a polarizing topic. The MSM pits us against one another. They report on everything in a way that makes us all more partisan and divided.

But that's good for them. They don't want us to be united. They want us divided, cause we're weak when divided. They want us to think there are two teams and for us to hate the other team. They want us to hate that team instead of who we actually should hate. Which is the media itself. The media colludes with the government in such a scummy way. The entire media output is for the sole reason of maintaining the cycle they have going. The cycle of both teams hating each other enough to not realize that we should ALL hate the media and do something about. Nope, we're all complacent sheep, just letting the global-elite-media-establishment butt fuck us into oppression.

People need to wake the fuck up.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10]
    #23734143 - 10/13/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The Jewish Media is horrible, there will be a backlash at some point.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10]
    #23734149 - 10/13/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The HMS Trump is sinking... Let's blame the media.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: koods]
    #23734159 - 10/13/16 01:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Actually, Trumps lead is expanding. Especially in light of the new, damaging, and quite shocking corrupt emails that are being released, despite the media. Not everyone is as dumb as the media and Clinton campaign would like them to be.

*NOTE - In a leaked Hillary email, her top staffers discuss wanting the American public to be complacent and subservient so they can further their agenda. PURE EVIL. You can't make this shit up.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10] * 6
    #23734171 - 10/13/16 01:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Webster, you are so fucking delusional it's both sad and hilarious.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10]
    #23734177 - 10/13/16 01:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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You can't make this shit up.



Julian Assange can.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: koods] * 1
    #23734179 - 10/13/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You too buddy. It takes a special type of autism to think lewd jokes are worse than global corruption just because a news station called "CNN" told you so.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: koods]
    #23734183 - 10/13/16 01:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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You can't make this shit up.



Julian Assange can.



FACT CHECK: False

Julian Assange is merely the leaker. His leaks have been verified by your buddies at CNN.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10]
    #23734191 - 10/13/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It takes a special kind of deplorable to dismiss a 46 year old man hitting on ten year old girls as "lewd jokes"


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: koods] * 1
    #23734260 - 10/13/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It takes a special kind of shill to portray a joke as having any sexual significance at all


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10]
    #23734274 - 10/13/16 02:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Does trump say what he believes or is everything out of his mouth a joke?

What kind of adult man talks that way to ten year old girls?


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: koods]
    #23734292 - 10/13/16 02:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

He is serious when he needs to be and makes charismatic jokes occasionally. Just like literally every other person alive. I've never heard Clinton tell a funny joke, I'm doubting that she is able to.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: koods]
    #23734305 - 10/13/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Does trump say what he believes or is everything out of his mouth a joke?

What kind of adult man talks that way to ten year old girls?




I don't know how it is in the gay world, but 95% of straight men are a much of sexual pigs when it comes to women, even young women.

I remember 5-6 guy friends (ages 40 and over) all going nuts over this young girl that was walking around the house, she was only 12 but looked 15, this is how guys behave.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10]
    #23734430 - 10/13/16 03:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Seems like it



you don't know him, and you literally don't even interact with him.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23734438 - 10/13/16 03:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

FACT CHECK: False.

He commented on my post and I replied. We LITERALLY interacted.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10]
    #23734440 - 10/13/16 03:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Bottom line: I don't believe the media anymore, do you?



i never believed the me-dia, lol.

it's the media's job to slant their viewers in a particular direction. i never had the perspective to be slanted.

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FACT CHECK: False.

He commented on my post and I replied. We LITERALLY interacted.



fact check, "false": inconclusive

you're fact check timed out. i wasn't talking about just now, i was talking about your lack of interaction and knowledge before the making of your fact check.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23734502 - 10/13/16 03:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Do people not understand that a vote for hillary is a vote for the mainstream media candidate? I mean, shouldnt that raise a few red flags? say what you will about trump supporters, at least they can think for themselves.
Did you see cnn's fact checking after the debate? pretty hilarious.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: mt cleverest]
    #23734511 - 10/13/16 03:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Trump supporters, simply by way of supporting Trump blindly, do not have their brains "thinking for themselves".

better to be weary of all candidates as potential screw-ups, and side cautiously.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23734521 - 10/13/16 03:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Who supports him blindly? I've never met someone who supports him blindly. All of my friends that started supporting him cause of the hype now all actually realize the importance of politics and staying up to date on the issues.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: mt cleverest]
    #23734529 - 10/13/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Do people not understand that a vote for hillary is a vote for the mainstream media candidate? I mean, shouldnt that raise a few red flags? say what you will about trump supporters, at least they can think for themselves.
Did you see cnn's fact checking after the debate? pretty hilarious.



"Trump said Clinton acid washed her emails"
"Fact check: false. She used bleach bit, not a corrosive chemical." :lol:

I'm glad that you see things that way. I mean, that's really the reality of the situation.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10]
    #23734535 - 10/13/16 03:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Webster10 said:
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koods said:
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Webster10 said:
You can't make this shit up.



Julian Assange can.



FACT CHECK: False

Julian Assange is merely the leaker. His leaks have been verified by your buddies at CNN.




Truth

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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: qman] * 7
    #23734538 - 10/13/16 03:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Does trump say what he believes or is everything out of his mouth a joke?

What kind of adult man talks that way to ten year old girls?




I don't know how it is in the gay world, but 95% of straight men are a much of sexual pigs when it comes to women, even young women.

I remember 5-6 guy friends (ages 40 and over) all going nuts over this young girl that was walking around the house, she was only 12 but looked 15, this is how guys behave.




No.  This is not how 95% of straight men act.  It sounds like you just spend your time around 95% shitty people.  They can sense that you're one of them and feel comfortable acting like Donald Trump in your presence.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Burke Dennings] * 1
    #23734552 - 10/13/16 03:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It's amazing how all the sudden men don't act crude and immaturely, when the fuck did this happen?


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: mt cleverest]
    #23734557 - 10/13/16 03:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Did you see cnn's fact checking after the debate? pretty hilarious.





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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #23734583 - 10/13/16 03:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

No. It actually is how men act. Us men are pigs when it comes to women. I'm not too sure how beta boys treat women, I don't hang around them much.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10] * 1
    #23734593 - 10/13/16 03:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Who supports him blindly?



you who presume to believe that Trump will fix all the problems you see, without him actually having done anything yet, but talk -- you who presume to do that, are following him blindly.

i've always presumed his brain trust will guide him in what the American people are talking about, and what they are expecting and what they want.

that isn't to say that he can't follow through with addressing those sentiments; but he still hasn't done anything about them -- i reserve my support of him, as an individual, till i see results. :shrug: until then, it's all politics, all talk, all campaigning, all of Donald being instructed.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10]
    #23734911 - 10/13/16 06:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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No. It actually is how men act. Us men are pigs when it comes to women. I'm not too sure how beta boys treat women, I don't hang around them much.




You hit on ten year old girls? Do you walk into a dressing room full of naked 14-18 year old girls because you can?

“No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it... 'is everyone OK?’ You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible-looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10] * 2
    #23734915 - 10/13/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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No. It actually is how men act. Us men are pigs when it comes to women. I'm not too sure how beta boys treat women, I don't hang around them much.



You sound hella rapey.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: koods]
    #23734955 - 10/13/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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No. It actually is how men act. Us men are pigs when it comes to women. I'm not too sure how beta boys treat women, I don't hang around them much.




You hit on ten year old girls? Do you walk into a dressing room full of naked 14-18 year old girls because you can?

“No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it... 'is everyone OK?’ You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible-looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”



Yeah brah he's orange hitler, the rapist version


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10]
    #23734962 - 10/13/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Now you're getting it


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23734964 - 10/13/16 06:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Webster10 said:
No. It actually is how men act. Us men are pigs when it comes to women. I'm not too sure how beta boys treat women, I don't hang around them much.



You sound hella rapey.



The funny thing is that all these betas that think being sexually aggressive whatsoever is "rapey," likely never had fulfilled a women in their lifetime. Every woman I've been with LIKES being pushed around a little in bed. They LIKE a little hair pulling, choking, slapping and pinning. They WANT it. It's a shame some guys are too pussy to give it to them. And then these same pussies wonder why the girl left them for, "that douchebag."


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10] * 2
    #23734976 - 10/13/16 06:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

yea boi tell them pussys. my boi web over here layin it down. fuck em bro


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: mt cleverest]
    #23734981 - 10/13/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Do people not understand that a vote for hillary is a vote for the mainstream media candidate? I mean, shouldnt that raise a few red flags? say what you will about trump supporters, at least they can think for themselves.
Did you see cnn's fact checking after the debate? pretty hilarious.




And a vote for Trump is a vote for the National Enquirer candidate. Shouldn't THAT raise a few red flags?


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: koods]
    #23734986 - 10/13/16 06:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Do people not understand that a vote for hillary is a vote for the mainstream media candidate? I mean, shouldnt that raise a few red flags? say what you will about trump supporters, at least they can think for themselves.
Did you see cnn's fact checking after the debate? pretty hilarious.




And a vote for Trump is a vote for the National Enquirer candidate. Shouldn't THAT raise a few red flags?



What the hell does that even mean?

The entire mainstream media wants Clinton to win. They're actively working in collusion with her to get her elected. That raises red flags for any sane person.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23734987 - 10/13/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah if I don't want to force myself on a woman who doesn't want it in hopes she'll eventually say yes then I must be a "beta"



That's not what I said at all. I think the weed might be clouding up your thought process a little bit.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10]
    #23734988 - 10/13/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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The funny thing is that all these betas that think being sexually aggressive whatsoever is "rapey," likely never had fulfilled a women in their lifetime. Every woman I've been with LIKES being pushed around a little in bed. They LIKE a little hair pulling, choking, slapping and pinning. They WANT it. It's a shame some guys are too pussy to give it to them. And then these same pussies wonder why the girl left them for, "that douchebag."



alright, whoa, slow-down Doc, i need to take some notes. :laugh2: you mean women like rough sex?
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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: koods]
    #23734989 - 10/13/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Do people not understand that a vote for hillary is a vote for the mainstream media candidate? I mean, shouldnt that raise a few red flags? say what you will about trump supporters, at least they can think for themselves.
Did you see cnn's fact checking after the debate? pretty hilarious.




And a vote for Trump is a vote for the National Enquirer candidate. Shouldn't THAT raise a few red flags?




Trump may not have even passed the National Enquirer's standards if Jared Kushner wasn't married to one of his brood.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10]
    #23735000 - 10/13/16 06:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Do people not understand that a vote for hillary is a vote for the mainstream media candidate? I mean, shouldnt that raise a few red flags? say what you will about trump supporters, at least they can think for themselves.
Did you see cnn's fact checking after the debate? pretty hilarious.




And a vote for Trump is a vote for the National Enquirer candidate. Shouldn't THAT raise a few red flags?



What the hell does that even mean?

The entire mainstream media wants Clinton to win. They're actively working in collusion with her to get her elected. That raises red flags for any sane person.




They want Clinton to win because trump is so fucking awful. Newspapers that have supported the republican candidate for decades are endorsing Clinton this time, not because they love Clinton but because Trump is totally unfit to be president.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23735001 - 10/13/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Do people not understand that a vote for hillary is a vote for the mainstream media candidate? I mean, shouldnt that raise a few red flags? say what you will about trump supporters, at least they can think for themselves.
Did you see cnn's fact checking after the debate? pretty hilarious.




And a vote for Trump is a vote for the National Enquirer candidate. Shouldn't THAT raise a few red flags?




Trump may not have even passed the National Enquirer's standards if Jared Kushner wasn't married to one of his brood.




Lol good point.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: koods]
    #23735006 - 10/13/16 06:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

FACT CHECK: False.

The republican news papers aren't endorsing Clinton because they hate trump so much. They're endorsing her because she is the ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATE. How many times do I have to repeat that for you to get it? If it had been any other republican, who were all leaps and bounds worse than Trunp, the repub papers would happily endorsed them. Being an establishment shill is a prerequisite for being endorsed by anyone in the establishment.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10]
    #23735025 - 10/13/16 06:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

well, i don't believe that he's anti-establishment, and i'd proffer that the media is not in cahoots with them because he intends to stamp down on media outlet's and everyone else's freedom of the press, and his rhetoric in the past has been rather fascist in it's implications.

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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10]
    #23735032 - 10/13/16 06:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Blah blah blah. Establishment. Like a billionaire who has rubbed elbows with the political elite for decades isn't establishment.

Gimme a break. You drank the koolaide. It's "white night" and everyone is out to get you. Trump 2016 or Jonestown 1979. A cult is a cult.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23735033 - 10/13/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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well, i don't believe that he's anti-establishment, and i'd proffer that the media is not in cahoots with them because he intends to stamp down on media outlet's and everyone else's freedom of the press, and his rhetoric in the past has been rather fascist in it's implications.

plus
http://www.globalresearch.ca/donald-trump-the-anti-establishment-candidate-connections-to-wall-street-blackwater-and-the-cfr/5541846



Trump is the definition of anti-establishment, and I was talking about the media colluding with clintons campaign, not trumps.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: koods]
    #23735035 - 10/13/16 06:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Blah blah blah. Establishment. Like a billionaire who has rubbed elbows with the political elite for decades isn't establishment.

Gimme a break. You drank the koolaide. It's "white night" and everyone is out to get you. Trump 2016 or Jonestown 1979. A cult is a cult.



Trying to deny that Trump is anti-establishment is the epitome of going full retard


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10]
    #23735043 - 10/13/16 06:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If trump is so anti-establishment, why is he so butt hurt that the GOP establishment is bailing on him?


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10]
    #23735057 - 10/13/16 07:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Trump is the definition of anti-establishment, and I was talking about the media colluding with clintons campaign, not trumps.




regardless, what i said is apparent, -- evident.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: koods]
    #23735058 - 10/13/16 07:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If Trunp is so establishment, why did he absolutely ravage Ryan and the rest of the GOP on Twitter and in his O'reilly interview after Ryan pulled his endorsement?

Koods, honestly, your first reason for why he's establishment is one of the biggest reasons for him not being establishment. Pull it together.

This is from his rally today. He's not holding back. He's going to take down the establishment.
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Thank you folks, it's great to be right here in Florida which we love. In 26 days we are going to win this great, great state and we are going to win the White House. Our movement is about replacing a failed, and corrupt, and when I say corrupt I'm talking about totally corrupt, political establishment with a new government controlled by you the American people.




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There is nothing the political establishment will not do. No lie they won't tell, to hold their prestige and power at your expense, and that's what's been happening. The Washington establishment and the financial and media corporations that fund it, exist for only one reason, to protect and enrich itself. The establishment has trillions of dollars at stake in this election. As an example, just one single trade deal they'd like to pass involves trillions of dollars controlled by many countries, corporations, and lobbyists.




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Honestly, she should be locked up. Should be locked up. And likewise the emails show that the Clinton machine is co closely and irrevocably ties to the media organization that she, listen to this, is given the questions and answers in advance of her debate performance with Bernie Sanders. Hillary Clinton is also given approval and veto power over quotes written about her in the New York Times. And the emails show the reporters conspire and collaborate with helping her win the election.



It's like motherfuckin music to my ears

He's establishment cause CNN said so :flowstone:


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10]
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We will vote for the country we want. We will vote for the future we want. We will vote for the politics we want. And we will vote to put this corrupt government cartel out of business, and out of business immediately. We will vote for the special interests and say "lots of luck, but you're being voted out of power." They've betrayed our workers, they've betrayed our borders, and most of all they've betrayed our freedoms. We will save our sovereign rights as a nation.
We will end the politics of profit, we will end the rule of special interests, we will end the raiding of our jobs by other countries. We will end the total disenfranchisement of the American voter and the American worker.
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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10]
    #23735078 - 10/13/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

like i said ten billion times, Trump's brain trust is on point...hopefully it doesn't turn into brain rust.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10]
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If Trunp is so establishment, why did he absolutely ravage Ryan and the rest of the GOP on Twitter and in his O'reilly interview after Ryan pulled his endorsement?




Because he's a child.

If he was so anti-establishment, why would he be so outraged about Ryan pulling his endorsement? :cookiemonster:


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    #23735089 - 10/13/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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If trump is so anti-establishment, why is he so butt hurt that the GOP establishment is bailing on him?




Exactly.

This past week Trump has tweeted that following his massive disavowment by the GOP, he is now "unshackled".  Which means that as long as he had their endorsement and acceptance, he was willing to be shackled by the party.  He wanted it, and is sore that many of the VIPs on the right no longer want him, even as a "useful idiot".  Establishmentarian AF.


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    #23735094 - 10/13/16 07:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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like i said ten billion times, Trump's brain trust is on point...hopefully it doesn't turn into brain rust.



Trump has an ego, there's no denying that. He wants to be liked. Wouldn't that drive him to be the absolute best president he is capable of being?


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #23735099 - 10/13/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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If trump is so anti-establishment, why is he so butt hurt that the GOP establishment is bailing on him?




Exactly.

This past week Trump has tweeted that following his massive disavowment by the GOP, he is now "unshackled".  Which means that as long as he had their endorsement and acceptance, he was willing to be shackled by the party.  He wanted it, and is sore that many of the VIPs on the right no longer want him, even as a "useful idiot".  Establishmentarian AF.



You guys that don't really follow politics all that much should really stay out of the discussion. You're just spreading misinformation and false sentiment.


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Burke nailed it.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: koods]
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If Trunp is so establishment, why did he absolutely ravage Ryan and the rest of the GOP on Twitter and in his O'reilly interview after Ryan pulled his endorsement?




Because he's a child.

If he was so anti-establishment, why would he be so outraged about Ryan pulling his endorsement? :cookiemonster:



Well they had a meeting and Ryan agreed to endorse him face to face. Who wouldn't be mad about being lied to their face? The entire establishment has been dog piling him since the beginning. I'd get a little annoyed if I finally got one of my party leaders to endorse me only to pull it 5 seconds later over a manufactured scandal.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #23735132 - 10/13/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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If trump is so anti-establishment, why is he so butt hurt that the GOP establishment is bailing on him?




Exactly.

This past week Trump has tweeted that following his massive disavowment by the GOP, he is now "unshackled".  Which means that as long as he had their endorsement and acceptance, he was willing to be shackled by the party.  He wanted it, and is sore that many of the VIPs on the right no longer want him, even as a "useful idiot".  Establishmentarian AF.



You actually didn't nail it. Trump has been doing his own thing since the beginning. He hasn't changed for anyone or anything. Did you seem him change after Ryan's endorsement? Nope. Same old Trump. What happened was that Trump finally got Ryan to sign on with him according to his own terms. Ryan was the little bitch that eventually gave in. We all remember the "Ryan not ready to endorse yet" headlines. Yeah, the establishment cuck was making a huge deal in the media about him not supporting Trump. Well after he bitches out and gives into Trump, he bitches out of the endorsement after the tapes dropband reverts to old Ryan. Non-endorsing-cock-sucking-Ryan. Trump essentially called him a bitch on Twitter for backing out, and bragged about being able to do whatever he wants.

You guys see things in the most delusional way possible. And the reality of it is so obvious, that's what I don't get.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10]
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like i said ten billion times, Trump's brain trust is on point...hopefully it doesn't turn into brain rust.



Trump has an ego, there's no denying that. He wants to be liked. Wouldn't that drive him to be the absolute best president he is capable of being?



that's the slogan.

but then again, if he is relying on his brain trust, his brain trust could have their own agendas.


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    #23735145 - 10/13/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Burke, what you definitely don't know about the whole situation and what Koods MGHT know, I may be giving him too much credit, is that Ryan's top aide is the one who leaked the Trump tape. Bully Bush gave the tape to Ryan's top aide and he was the one to leak it. IMO, it's very possible Ryan merely endorsed trump just so he could take it back after some manufactured scandal dropped. The establishment is as desperate as ever to keep Trump out.

I mean for Gods sake, newspapers have opened "tip hotlines" where you can write in your stories about being sexually abused by Trump. Like, are you fucking kidding me.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23735173 - 10/13/16 07:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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FACT CHECK: False.

The republican news papers aren't endorsing Clinton because they hate trump so much. They're endorsing her because she is the ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATE. How many times do I have to repeat that for you to get it? If it had been any other republican, who were all leaps and bounds worse than Trunp, the repub papers would happily endorsed them. Being an establishment shill is a prerequisite for being endorsed by anyone in the establishment.



This is pitiful . You say "Fact Check:" and give 0 facts


They don't want him as the republican nominee because he's A) a pathological liar B)Extremely openly racist/sexist/bully/incites violence/ and quite frankly it would make republicans everywhere look like they only want white,Christian,wealthy bigots . And not all republicans are. IMO that's why they haven't give him their backing.
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Blah blah blah. Establishment. Like a billionaire who has rubbed elbows with the political elite for decades isn't establishment.

Gimme a break. You drank the koolaide. It's "white night" and everyone is out to get you. Trump 2016 or Jonestown 1979. A cult is a cult.



Extremely well said
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Blah blah blah. Establishment. Like a billionaire who has rubbed elbows with the political elite for decades isn't establishment.

Gimme a break. You drank the koolaide. It's "white night" and everyone is out to get you. Trump 2016 or Jonestown 1979. A cult is a cult.



Trying to deny that Trump is anti-establishment is the epitome of going full retard



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like i said ten billion times, Trump's brain trust is on point...hopefully it doesn't turn into brain rust.



Trump has an ego, there's no denying that. He wants to be liked. Wouldn't that drive him to be the absolute best president he is capable of being?



that's the slogan.

but then again, if he is relying on his brain trust, his brain trust could have their own agendas.




Your finally asking the right question. Trump has an ego that's easily set off and he gets offended really easy therefore he will be incredibly easy to get under his skin for our real enemies and that I believe will be the begining of the end.  Especially on a Geo political stage where tense negotiations take place.

You  are expected as US president to be extremely diplomatic, nice  and represent the values of the nation. And Donald Trump stance against all the issues that I hope pretty close to my heart.  Mainly because I don't think I'm entitled and deserve more then everyone else, which I feel Donald feels.


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You just need to educate yourself on politics more. Then you'd be able to form more complex opinions about the relevant issues.


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Burke, I wholeheartedly agree with every single word you've said in this thread. :thumbup:


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10] * 1
    #23735194 - 10/13/16 07:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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If Trunp is so establishment, why did he absolutely ravage Ryan and the rest of the GOP on Twitter and in his O'reilly interview after Ryan pulled his endorsement?




Because he's a child.

If he was so anti-establishment, why would he be so outraged about Ryan pulling his endorsement? :cookiemonster:



Well they had a meeting and Ryan agreed to endorse him face to face. Who wouldn't be mad about being lied to their face? The entire establishment has been dog piling him since the beginning. I'd get a little annoyed if I finally got one of my party leaders to endorse me only to pull it 5 seconds later over a manufactured scandal.




If you made an effort to get a party leader endorsement, you would be pro -establishment. An anti-establishment candidate wouldn't care, or would even reject such an endorsement.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: koods]
    #23735219 - 10/13/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

When did he make an effort? He's just been saying whatever he wants to say since the beginning. That's not really making an effort for an establishment endorsement. Trump and Ryan's situation is complex. Their agendas are completely the opposite. Trunp is the leader of the anti-establishment movement and Ryan is one of the leaders of the establishment movement. Ryan's endorsement to trump wasn't saying, "trump has agreed with my establishment positions so I'll endorse him," it said, "even though trumps agenda is exactly the opposite of mine, he's way more popular with real voters than I am so I'll endorse him."

That's nailing it, cause that's the reality of the situation. Keep denying but the truth is obvious


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10]
    #23735231 - 10/13/16 07:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

None of Trump's relationships are complex. If a person says nice things about trump, he likes them back. If a person criticizes Trump, then Trump gets on twitter and calls them stupid, fat, ugly, or a loser.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10]
    #23735241 - 10/13/16 07:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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He's just been saying whatever he wants to say since the beginning.




Even if that is true, is that really a quality you look for in a leader?  Impulsive with no conscience or filter.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10]
    #23735282 - 10/13/16 08:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Go Trump.
I get a kick out of all the people that have tens of thousands of posts talking on forums like they know what the real world is like.  Glad I'm not like that and have a great education(it's paid for itself), fantastic job, many skill sets that further advance my life in ways many of you can't imagine.
I don't talk politics much, but I read extensively.  Talk sense to a fool and they will call you foolish.  Luckily most internet flakes don't get out much so I don't have to see/hear them in public.
Generally in my experiences the followers and believers of MSM don't have the slightest clue as to what's really going on in the political world.  Not saying I know what's absolutely going on but definitely have a better idea/understanding than most.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: pinedownpioneer]
    #23735296 - 10/13/16 08:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

i get a kick at all the people who assume that the real world is any good. :laugh2:


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    #23735316 - 10/13/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It can certainly be better.  But it's pretty damn good to me.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: pinedownpioneer]
    #23735325 - 10/13/16 08:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

the real world can always be better, because it's never enough that it's good. goodness tends to lose it's original meaning when you're in need of resources, and you don't want to share.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: pinedownpioneer]
    #23735335 - 10/13/16 08:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Well said. We've got a lot of the MSM parrot type on this forum.


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    #23735341 - 10/13/16 08:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

People will believe what they want to hear.

The media spoon feeds them the narrative and "facts" (and I use that term very, very loosely) that they want to hear -- and they eat it up. But anything that goes against their narrative, then it's all lies and propaganda.


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    #23735367 - 10/13/16 08:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You don't think an educated person can figure out what kind of person Donald Trump is just by listening to him talk? The man is a reprehensible person. It doesn't take media spin to figure that out. Any intelligent, observant person can see that for themselves.


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: koods] * 1
    #23735402 - 10/13/16 09:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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You can't make this shit up.



Julian Assange can.



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you are so fucking delusional it's both sad and hilarious.




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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: koods]
    #23735403 - 10/13/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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You don't think an educated person can figure out what kind of person Donald Trump is just by listening to him talk?






what is hillary to an educated person?


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You don't think an educated person can figure out what kind of person Donald Trump is just by listening to him talk? The man is a reprehensible person




Reprehensible, sure. Likewise with Hillary -- if not more so. Trump's just a loudmouthed jack ass. Hillary's basically a proven criminal at this point.

They're both absolutely atrocious, putrid candidates, and it blows my mind that these are the two that this country is left with.

But to your question, no, sometimes spin isn't even necessary. Case in point with Trump. But you do agree that both the left (NBC, MSNBC, CNN, etc.) & right (Fox) are both heavily slanted networks that cater and spoon feed their narratives to their constituencies? Would you agree?


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    #23735444 - 10/13/16 09:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

She's not someone who was impersonating a shaking man,making fun of a speech impediment from a serious disease . That alone is a mark of someone to never be in the Oval Office. And that's just one of the many horrible things I don't like about him that I've seen him say in a video.


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    #23735923 - 10/14/16 02:08 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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No. It actually is how men act. Us men are pigs when it comes to women. I'm not too sure how beta boys treat women, I don't hang around them much.



You sound hella rapey.



The funny thing is that all these betas that think being sexually aggressive whatsoever is "rapey," likely never had fulfilled a women in their lifetime. Every woman I've been with LIKES being pushed around a little in bed. They LIKE a little hair pulling, choking, slapping and pinning. They WANT it. It's a shame some guys are too pussy to give it to them. And then these same pussies wonder why the girl left them for, "that douchebag."



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    #23735934 - 10/14/16 02:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

dude, can you pick up what Webster is exuding?



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    #23735943 - 10/14/16 02:36 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

emanating, exuding, secreting...


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Re: Does anyone actually believe the mainstream media? [Re: Webster10]
    #23736026 - 10/14/16 04:01 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

i believe some things i can confirm


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    #23736044 - 10/14/16 04:15 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Well said. We've got a lot of the MSM parrot type on this forum.




So how did you learn about Trump?  Underground republican newspapers?


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