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Re: Amanita muscaria ID MD [Re: DiedAFewTimes]
    #23736883 - 10/14/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Amanita muscaria ID MD [Re: doctorghosty]
    #23736931 - 10/14/16 11:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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In addition, hook up with any mycology clubs/societies in your neck of the woods.  They don't need to know your particular interest and can teach you a lot about mushroom foraging, including how to not waste your time looking in the wrong places.  They will also be up to date on mushrooms to avoid in your area.


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Re: Amanita muscaria ID MD [Re: doctorghosty]
    #23737114 - 10/14/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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everybody is very careful with Amanita IDs as well because we know that based on our answers people are going to end up ingesting the things so no one wants to say what something is unless they're 100% sure. and I'm guessing those reasons are why you haven't gotten a response from anyone else either.




I worry by giving someone new to mushrooms the confidence in eating an Amanita collection, they go out and find a similar looking one and harm themselves.

I see people so eager to consume ibotenic acid/muscimol types, I don't think they realize they're not like Psilocybes at all, and the experience might not be enjoyable.

So with that said, I often avoid making ID's on Amanita species which aren't muscaria variants like guessowii/flavivolvata when people say they want to eat them.

I do believe that your collection strongly favors a positive ID of Amanita crenulata, I also believe that you would be stupid to consume these, just my thoughts, and I am not trying to insult you at all by saying that.


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Re: Amanita muscaria ID MD [Re: DiedAFewTimes]
    #23737131 - 10/14/16 01:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

They look a lot like amanita gemmata which are listed as poisonous..but, the truth is...I would not mess with any amanita unless it was bright red/orange or bright yellow....Why take a chance? I've seen the ones you're guessing about growing around Loch Raven before....good luck op. From what I read...the panther is mostly a west coast mushroom and is very rare in the east.


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Re: Amanita muscaria ID MD [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23737206 - 10/14/16 01:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I believe A. gemmata is listed poisonous in the same vein that A. muscaria is, with the primary agent being ibotenic acid.


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Re: Amanita muscaria ID MD [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23737221 - 10/14/16 01:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Amanita gemmata does not occur in the Eastern USA I think, also these lack a collard rim around the base of the stipe, which pantherina clade Amanita are known for.


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