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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: phio]
#23732195 - 10/12/16 07:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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If the war can be fought with tactical nuclear weapons alone, then I'm not too worried about it.
The only place we differ so far, is that I think these idiots are blundering towards a war and you seem to think they're doing it on purpose.
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: Repertoire89]
#23732197 - 10/12/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Most of the global population is concentrated in cities and modern nukes dont pose much of a radiation threat as it dissipates fairly quickly and there isnt much of it to start with. After a couple weeks it would be safe again, relatively speaking.
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: zZZz]
#23732202 - 10/12/16 07:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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zZZz said: Idk about all these stories in the newspaper, and all over the Internet and what not, but if all they say is true then I think Russia really can't do shit, if they try to do anything to the USA then the united nations will get involved and Russia will be shut down, their people will starve and they'll go bankrupt. They'll be shunned by everyone cuz peeps are tired of wars, it ain't like it used to be where peeps could just bomb anyone they'd like, people are smarter these days, we're all connected like never before. If the govs don't come together the people will.
Usually the peeps showing the most power have the least of it, it's all in the book the art of war by sun tzu.
As I recall 'the art of war by sun Tzu' is an ancient Chinese military treatise.
http://www.dhakatribune.com/world/2016/10/11/russia-resume-strike-of-eastern-aleppo-putin-cancels-paris-visit/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/china-russia-consider-defense-response-us-missile-shield/
Interesting that you reference it given your perspective ....
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: Repertoire89]
#23732206 - 10/12/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: If the war can be fought with tactical nuclear weapons alone, then I'm not too worried about it.
The only place we differ so far, is that I think these idiots are blundering towards a war and you seem to think they're doing it on purpose.
Some are doing it intentionally. Some are Blundering. Some are trying to avoid it.
The key is to listen to a person's commentary and rhetoric when it comes to various nations... Is it military focused or economic? Note the tone and lack of consistency w.r.t to policy. There is your smoking gun in plain sight.
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: phio]
#23732208 - 10/12/16 07:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well hopefully this war happens soon, I'm getting tired of all the posturing.
Winner takes all
Populations too damn high anyways
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: Starstepper]
#23732213 - 10/12/16 07:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23732216 - 10/12/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nah, fallout is a bitch to clean up. To grow crops the top soil needs removed. Post fallout many people get very sick in areas not bombed. Second and third waves of attack are chemical and biological.
There are reasons hitter didn't use chem weapons on the battle. He had seen them in the first war.
Russia is not anywhere close to ready for world war three if they want anyone to have ever heard of Russia left. Their population is half that of the states. That can be solved teaming with China yet the axis lost World War Two because of several reasons. The axis dreamed too big and was too confident in their existing technology. If hitler waited for nuclear and missile tech to evolve just a few years they would have done a lot more.
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23732217 - 10/12/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Most of the global population is concentrated in cities and modern nukes dont pose much of a radiation threat as it dissipates fairly quickly and there isnt much of it to start with. After a couple weeks it would be safe again, relatively speaking.
Exactly, why do you think they are buying places abroad? So they can get the hell out of here if/when shit goes down...
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: Repertoire89]
#23732219 - 10/12/16 07:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: Well hopefully this war happens soon, I'm getting tired of all the posturing.
Winner takes all
Populations too damn high anyways

Personally, I hope for the best and most peaceful outcome for all of human kind.. But you got some chongas in this world who don't know how to act and chongas electing chongas has its consequences.
Just noting the causes/effects and all the idiocy leading up to potentially negative outcomes.
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: phio]
#23732261 - 10/12/16 07:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I like what you were posting so I wanted to follow. Chill Julius
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: Starstepper]
#23732340 - 10/12/16 08:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I like what you were posting so I wanted to follow. Chill Julius
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: Seriously_trippin] 1
#23732372 - 10/12/16 08:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Seriously_trippin said: This video is hilarious
The black dude with glasses is the only one who seems remotely amused "Your an asshole"
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#23732411 - 10/12/16 08:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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They're all cray cray
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23732453 - 10/12/16 08:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Most of the global population is concentrated in cities and modern nukes dont pose much of a radiation threat as it dissipates fairly quickly and there isnt much of it to start with. After a couple weeks it would be safe again, relatively speaking.
Absolutely wrong, the half life of cesium is 37 years, strontium 28 years, plutionium 24,000 years. Not to mention bioaccumulation in the environment.
Nuclear war is nothing to joke about, there would be no winner, everyone in a nuclear war is a loser.
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: Hobozen] 1
#23732483 - 10/12/16 09:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: Fuck Russia.
They're a small pathetic country whose economy is that of a third world country compared to ours. Their military is outdated, underfunded, and out spent by our military by more than a factor of 10 to 1. Their nuclear missiles are so ancient and unreliable that it is doubtful that many of them still work, and our missile defenses have gotten so good over the past few decades that we could reliably shoot out of the sky anything they shot our way.
Russia wants to go back to the cold war, and I say we let them. Fuck Russia, they lost the cold war once, and they'll lose it again. They want to pretend like they're big and bad like the US, but the truth is that they don't even have fucking ROADS that span the entire country. Oh sure, it looks like they do on a map, but try driving them some time and you'll soon realize that no such road actually exists.
They talk big and act big, but they have zero to back it up with. Fuck 'em, let them start and immediately lose a second cold war if they want to. The US did quite well during the cold war, and as I seem to recall Russia was a flaming shithole during the cold war.
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: Pscientist]
#23732510 - 10/12/16 09:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Most of the global population is concentrated in cities and modern nukes dont pose much of a radiation threat as it dissipates fairly quickly and there isnt much of it to start with. After a couple weeks it would be safe again, relatively speaking.
Absolutely wrong, the half life of cesium is 37 years, strontium 28 years, plutionium 24,000 years. Not to mention bioaccumulation in the environment.
Nuclear war is nothing to joke about, there would be no winner, everyone in a nuclear war is a loser.
Doesnt matter, theres so little of it spread out over such a large area its effects are negligible after a few months. Why do you think the sea hasnt started glowing radioactive green yet even though it hasnt a melted down reactor floating in it? Its because it has such a vast area to diffuse into. 48 hours after a thermonuclear surface burst all traces of fallout in the air have settled. 14 days after the levels are 1,000 of the strength they were shortly after detonation. 2 months and its 10,000 the strength. It fades quickly as it spreads out.
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: phio]
#23732622 - 10/12/16 09:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: except the states aren't bluffing. They have a superior military, sure they haven't used it to its full effect but when the nukes fly it will have to be out of desperation because the US pushed russia -perhaps hillary - and not by russia's initiative. Russia is fucked if nukes fly, but then so is everyone won't matter ultimately as the whole place is going to slowly expire in the coming decades as we literally poison our lifeblood so I guess might as well speed it up
The navy they rely so heavily on can be shutdown by Russias advanced electronic counter measures. A single Russian fighter managed to shutdown the logistical systems of a destroyer leaving it completely vulnerable to the mock attack runs it was flying over it. The advantage isnt as distinct as the states makes it out to be.
Asymmetric warfare... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetric_warfare
Cheap and effective at stopping aggression but incapable of supporting aggression.
thats really interesting. further proof we dont need to be spending 50% of our gdp on defense
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: nooneman] 2
#23732739 - 10/12/16 10:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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nooneman said: I've said it before and I'll say it again: Fuck Russia.
They're a small pathetic country whose economy is that of a third world country compared to ours. Their military is outdated, underfunded, and out spent by our military by more than a factor of 10 to 1. Their nuclear missiles are so ancient and unreliable that it is doubtful that many of them still work, and our missile defenses have gotten so good over the past few decades that we could reliably shoot out of the sky anything they shot our way.
Russia wants to go back to the cold war, and I say we let them. Fuck Russia, they lost the cold war once, and they'll lose it again. They want to pretend like they're big and bad like the US, but the truth is that they don't even have fucking ROADS that span the entire country. Oh sure, it looks like they do on a map, but try driving them some time and you'll soon realize that no such road actually exists.
They talk big and act big, but they have zero to back it up with. Fuck 'em, let them start and immediately lose a second cold war if they want to. The US did quite well during the cold war, and as I seem to recall Russia was a flaming shithole during the cold war.
^It's just this kind of shared ignorant, arrogant, boastful, and reckless belief that makes me feel that such an event is likely ...

Most of all is an ignorance which fails to understand that Russia/China are one on this issue : http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-11/russia-says-it-s-joining-china-to-counter-u-s-missile-defense
For defense, Russia has the S-300, S-400, and S-500. The s400 has a range of 400km. It has been deployed in Syria given the U.S's rhetoric. They have effectively already established a no-fly zone.
The S-500 is even more powerful.
Absolutely none of your commentary has any factual basis and many of the U.S's top generals and analyst have consistently indicated that the U.S would lose such an engagement as Russia has focused on advancing their nuclear attack program while we chose to advance a costly and ineffective defense system : http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-missile-defense-failings-20160714-snap-story.html http://usherald.com/the-us-has-no-defense-to-a-russian-nuclear-attack-and-obama-doesnt-want-to-spend-any-money-to-change-that/
Here is a public facing video in which Putin details his asymmetric warfare strategy and why it came about....
I don't even want to get into discussions about their Satan-1 and Satan-2 ICBM systems which are appropriately named.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-36_(missile) The later version, the R-36M was produced under the GRAU designations 15A14 and 15A18 and was given the NATO reporting name SS-18 Satan. This missile was viewed by certain U.S. analysts as giving the Soviet Union first strike advantage over the U.S., particularly because of its rapid silo-reload ability, very heavy throw weight and extremely large number of re-entry vehicles. Some versions of the R-36M were deployed with 10 warheads and up to 40 penetration aids and the missile's high throw-weight made it theoretically capable of carrying more warheads or penetration aids. Contemporary U.S. missiles, such as the Minuteman III, carried up to three warheads at most. Russia intends to replace the R-36 with a new heavy ICBM, the RS-28 Sarmat.
The RS-28 Sarmat is expected to become operational in 2016.[11]
On 10 August 2016 - Russia successfuly tested first-stage engine named PDU-99 "ПДУ-99 http://www.military-today.com/missiles/ss18_satan.htm
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/why-nato-expected-lose-most-europe-russia-15267
Here's the Joint Chief of Staff wondering what the fuck is wrong w/ our government that they'd provoke a war with Russia over bombing terrorist in Syria :
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: doomshroom88] 1
#23732746 - 10/12/16 10:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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doomshroom88 said: thats really interesting. further proof we dont need to be spending 50% of our gdp on defense
Unless...

Anywho, that's enough for one day. The world must after-all be the world and I am after-all just an observer.
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