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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: Hobozen] 1
#23731965 - 10/12/16 05:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sure of it? With a country that has been making empty implied threats against the US since forever?
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: Ezuma] 2
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Hobozen said: Optimistic but not realistic. What's real are the wars of the past and I don't doubt for a second history can't repeat itself. When another country cuts.off your life supply, they don't give you much choice but to retaliate. And I could see Hillary doing just that.
nonsense, Hillary pursues profit for her business overlords, not destruction of all life. She's evil but she's not satan. This is all posturing, if there is another war between superpowers -doubtful- it will be the last one.
These business overlords you speak of have secret bunkers out in Antarctica. Consider the implications.
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23731970 - 10/12/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: When has a US president ever started a real war? Those things just happen. It's not going to be anyone's fault.
Trump is alot more like Hitler though, and he came as close as a leader could to starting a world war.
that's the danger of trump, though I doubt he'd get away with it as the president doesn't have absolute power. I really don't think Hillary would intentionally start a world war, Trump might want to, but I don't think it'd happen. Russia certainly doesn't want it, they didn't in the cold war and they wouldn't now
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: Hobozen]
#23731972 - 10/12/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hobozen said: Fox News says!
All I asked was "who's polls should I trust?" Not sure why your mad bro.
Fox News is notoriously republican biased,very anti dem and anti Clinton. So even the republican news channel is saying he's losing along with every other website I could find. Yes you did say "who's polls should I trust?" completely rhetorically and not looking for a real answer. Unless you really didn't know where reliable polls are on the internet until I googled it for you. If that's the case I'm sorry for thinking you were being intentionally condescending.
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: Hobozen]
#23731974 - 10/12/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hobozen said: Optimistic but not realistic. What's real are the wars of the past and I don't doubt for a second history can't repeat itself. When another country cuts.off your life supply, they don't give you much choice but to retaliate. And I could see Hillary doing just that.
nonsense, Hillary pursues profit for her business overlords, not destruction of all life. She's evil but she's not satan. This is all posturing, if there is another war between superpowers -doubtful- it will be the last one.
These business overlords you speak of have secret bunkers out in Antarctica. Consider the implications.
the world works to their benefit already, why bother wiping the slate clean, who will do their work, who will make their cars, their homes, whose young children could they collectively gang bang on their yachts? Everything they have is built on the backs of the people, and they know it. I'm sure they plan in case of emergency, but it does not benefit the wealthy to lose the poor
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#23731975 - 10/12/16 05:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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*establishment republican
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: Ezuma]
#23731980 - 10/12/16 05:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I mean I could really hear it from either of them sadly, but more likely Trump. The worse thing is the way the world is I would be surprised if Europe and maybe even Russia didn't join the US immediately. I mean the idea that the world will balance in harmony with three or four stable superpowers is much more ridiculous that the idea that something's got to give.
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: Ezuma]
#23731981 - 10/12/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hobozen said: Optimistic but not realistic. What's real are the wars of the past and I don't doubt for a second history can't repeat itself. When another country cuts.off your life supply, they don't give you much choice but to retaliate. And I could see Hillary doing just that.
nonsense, Hillary pursues profit for her business overlords, not destruction of all life. She's evil but she's not satan. This is all posturing, if there is another war between superpowers -doubtful- it will be the last one.
These business overlords you speak of have secret bunkers out in Antarctica. Consider the implications.
the world works to their benefit already, why bother wiping the slate clean, who will do their work, who will make their cars, their homes, whose young children could they collectively gang bang on their yachts? Everything they have is built on the backs of the people, and they know it. I'm sure they plan in case of emergency, but it does not benefit the wealthy to lose the poor
They have much to gain by wiping the slate clean. Im trying to imagine myself as an elite, looking over this overpopulated world. "Hells yeah, lets cause a nuclear storm and be the last living things on the planet. We'll start anew".
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: koods]
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: Hobozen]
#23731986 - 10/12/16 05:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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[ no way man, if you start anew you have to work. If they kill the poor, who will work? Them?
the real sad thing is their perfect world is already
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: Ezuma]
#23731997 - 10/12/16 05:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hobozen said: Optimistic but not realistic. What's real are the wars of the past and I don't doubt for a second history can't repeat itself. When another country cuts.off your life supply, they don't give you much choice but to retaliate. And I could see Hillary doing just that.
nonsense, Hillary pursues profit for her business overlords, not destruction of all life. She's evil but she's not satan. This is all posturing, if there is another war between superpowers -doubtful- it will be the last one.
Corporate interests don't want balanced and free trade governed by super powers looking out for their citizens. They want imbalanced and slanted trade that furthers cements their power and control over the world, allows them to continue to exploit countries and their citizens, and that puts them not countries at the seat of control.
Now, use that wonderful brain of yours and think about what countries are least susceptible to corporate dominated rule....
Furthermore, in an overpopulated world in which technology continues to dominate labor, those precious lives are seemingly nothing more than expensive line items.
You and many others seem to have quite the shallow handle as to what's going on here and how this all works which is exactly why its highly likely that a world war is fast approaching.
If you have watched even a slither of Hillary's commentaries, you'll see she quite openly and sternly declares that she is going to pursue a conflict with Russia which coincidentally includes China. You'd have to be an absolute moron and idiot not to see it.
You think Russia who maintains superior asymmetric attack capabilities (as declared by our military) whose preparing for nuclear conflict is going to sit back and let that dumb cunt drag them into a conventional and costly war that would bankrupt them given the lessons they have from the soviet Union's past? Let oligarchs run their country? You are seemingly as dumb as Hillary.
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: Ezuma]
#23731999 - 10/12/16 05:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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People have an inherent desire to work.
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: Hobozen]
#23732001 - 10/12/16 05:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hobozen said: >When they said they would immediately attack US aircraft in response to further attacks on the SAA they meant it, 100%.
This isn't the only example. I think it was some high ranking russian official who said they arente retaliating because they're waiting on Trump. If trump doesn't get elected they're gonna retaliate, I'm sure of it.
They will for sure, the wont even wait for the dust of the election to settle.
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koods said: Putin wants trump to win because he knows he can walk all over him and his supporters. Look how scared they get by a few threats.
This...There have been accounts by past and present CIA operatives that confirm this theory. All Putin has to do to have The Donald in the palm of his hand is to praise him. This is how you get your way with him...Putin knows this as an ex KGB spook.
This has nothing to do with teachings in KGB and CIA class and everything to do with a new era of balanced global economic powers with nuclear capabilities that demands mutual respect. Some leaders get that. Some Don't.
You maintain power, control, and dominance in this new era by maintaining a strong country with a balanced budget, a handle on deficits, well balanced imports/exports, and by providing products and services above that of other countries.
Essentially, you have to work for what you get on the global stage. This is no longer the stone age whereby you maintain power and prosperity by roaming around the world beating that shit out of people.
Superpowers who don't have the luxury of wasting resources on conventional wars maintain and advance their nuclear arsenals for asymmetric responses to aggression. Only a reckless moron who has no regard for human life takes this as a bluff. Hillary is seemingly just the kind of dumb cunt who would test and provoke someone with such a stance for no reason other than to maintain the present state of affairs that is no longer possible on a world stage dominated by global economic trade.
Look around at whose striking all of the resource and trade deals around the world.. It's an era of cooperative and constructive trade. You get some nukes. You ensure first strike capability. You focus on trade and you don't spend hundreds of billions of dollars on silly ass military equipment.
Sadly many people live in the stone age and want to elect a leader that will take them back to it. This inverted society declares that a reasoned man who gets this and seeks to conduct balanced trade is a pussy but a wretched cunt who wants to blow everything sky high .. Now that is a leader. Just goes to show you the destructive nature of the human race. No matter male or female, people thirst and compel those who thirst to destroy to the forefront of their societies.
Maybe this heralds in the new age for which man is no longer at the helm of such destructive forces... Godspeed

That woman is so out of touch with reality. She cant even figure out a turnstyle out without her aids rushing to her side to do it for her. Shes going to fail miserably with policy concerning Russia, just like she failed with Libya, because she thinks like ezuma, that nobodies ever going to call the states bluffs. Russia's 100% ready to engage the US in Syria.
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23732019 - 10/12/16 05:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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except the states aren't bluffing. They have a superior military, sure they haven't used it to its full effect but when the nukes fly it will have to be out of desperation because the US pushed russia -perhaps hillary - and not by russia's initiative. Russia is fucked if nukes fly, but then so is everyone won't matter ultimately as the whole place is going to slowly expire in the coming decades as we literally poison our lifeblood so I guess might as well speed it up
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: Ezuma] 2
#23732021 - 10/12/16 05:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: different times though. the world is in a state it has never been in before, where one nation has a monopoly. The world belongs to the USA now.
The world belongs to who? Da Duck...
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Ezuma said: In ww1 and 2 there were rivalries, the cold war was a rivalry between the last two superpowers, and russia lost, and there was no all out open war because it was unprofitable to pursue one. Russia has become weaker, the USA stronger, to the point no one would directly challenge the US. Proxy wars sure, everyone benefits, especially the arms industry. I would bet vast sums of money you will never see Russia attempt to invade or bomb the US directly
And what about China? Who do you think Russia is most allied with and economically tied to? You mistake what's going on here.. China is well on a path towards becoming the world's top most economic power if the U.S doesn't perform a drastic reversal of its downward spiral. Russia serves as their muscle and have been guaranteed an economic position as a result.
The U.S is in $19 trillion dollars of debt, politically divided, socially divided, has GDP growth of less than 1%, the chinese are buying up U.S assets like crazy, is being overrun by low-skilled illegal immigrants, wallstreet/finance on the verge of another collapse, and technology is set to decimate an already decimated jobs market..
The world belongs to who? The fuck are people smoking
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: Ezuma]
#23732027 - 10/12/16 06:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The us government is indeed completely controlled by corporate interests, and in fact the world isn't balanced between superpowers, its very much dominated by ONE, militarily, which protects the interests of said huge corporations. I don't doubt those corporations don't care one bit for human life, but it just isn't profitable to have a mass die-off. Endemic warfare in third world nations, absolutely that pays the bills. You may look at humans as a cost, but they cost those corporations nothing, in fact they need a large populace to extract value from, its not as if wealth just materializes in corporate pockets. I mean, it's very hard to sell anything to dead people after all
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#23732032 - 10/12/16 06:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: except the states aren't bluffing. They have a superior military, sure they haven't used it to its full effect but when the nukes fly it will have to be out of desperation because the US pushed russia -perhaps hillary - and not by russia's initiative. Russia is fucked if nukes fly, but then so is everyone won't matter ultimately as the whole place is going to slowly expire in the coming decades as we literally poison our lifeblood so I guess might as well speed it up
The navy they rely so heavily on can be shutdown by Russias advanced electronic counter measures. A single Russian fighter managed to shutdown the logistical systems of a destroyer leaving it completely vulnerable to the mock attack runs it was flying over it. The advantage isnt as distinct as the states makes it out to be.
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: phio]
#23732033 - 10/12/16 06:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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that's actually a good theory. not sure I ever looked at it like that.
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Hobozen said: Optimistic but not realistic. What's real are the wars of the past and I don't doubt for a second history can't repeat itself. When another country cuts.off your life supply, they don't give you much choice but to retaliate. And I could see Hillary doing just that.
nonsense, Hillary pursues profit for her business overlords, not destruction of all life. She's evil but she's not satan. This is all posturing, if there is another war between superpowers -doubtful- it will be the last one.
These business overlords you speak of have secret bunkers out in Antarctica. Consider the implications.
Exactly. What a lot of plebs who base their views on washed soundbites don't understand is that monied individuals pay and subscribe to well informed intelligence publications and advisors who have a line into the direction(s) that the world is going.. Clinton's foundations come to mind regarding leaks of sensitive intelligence information to private companies. These companies produce annual reports and provide advice for wealthy clients. These wealthy clients have been buying land in greenland, iceland, and preparing for such high energy conflicts.
They'll be safe and sound while the plebs who defend them roast.
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Re: Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad [Re: phio]
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Hobozen said: Optimistic but not realistic. What's real are the wars of the past and I don't doubt for a second history can't repeat itself. When another country cuts.off your life supply, they don't give you much choice but to retaliate. And I could see Hillary doing just that.
nonsense, Hillary pursues profit for her business overlords, not destruction of all life. She's evil but she's not satan. This is all posturing, if there is another war between superpowers -doubtful- it will be the last one.
These business overlords you speak of have secret bunkers out in Antarctica. Consider the implications.
Exactly. What a lot of plebs who base their views on washed soundbites don't understand is that monied individuals pay and subscribe to well informed intelligence publications and advisors who have a handle and line into the direction(s) that the world is going.. Clinton's foundations come to mind regarding leaks of sensitive intelligence information to private companies. These companies produce annual reports and provide advice for wealthy clients. These wealthy clients have been buying land in greenland, iceland, and preparing for such high energy conflicts.
They'll be safe and sound while the plebs who defend them roast.
oh I don't doubt the elite have a contingency plan, I just think it's plan B in their minds not plan A. Might happen, but no reliable information I've seen has suggested to me that a global war would benefit anyone, it just wouldn't fuck over the rich as much as the poor, but hasn't that always been the case ?
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