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UFC 205 !
    #23730929 - 10/12/16 11:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Listen guys I know most of you aren't into UFC but you should all go to a sports bar on November 12 and watch UFC 205 . It's going to be by far the most stacked and most amazing card In history.

If there has ever been a time to check out UFC this will be it .

Three world title fights in one night and an absolutely stacked card of amazing fighters and fights.

I wish I had some people to talk fighting with here and I can promise it will be exciting as hell.

Just get a friend order a pitcher and watch the fights!

There will never be a better time...

I will take a sick day at work if I have to no way I'm missing this one !

It is an all star cast !


To name a few

Connor the Notorious McGregor vs Eddie the underground king Alvarez
Stephen Wonderboy Thompson vs Tyron the chosen one woodley
Chris the all American weidman vs Yoel the soldier of God Romero

Michael Johnson vs Khabib Nurgomedov


Also fighting will be meisha tate, Donald cerrone, Thiago Alves, Rashad Evans and Tim Kennedy!

Trust me this is the most super star stacked fight card in history by far!

Every one of these is a don't miss fight!

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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23730996 - 10/12/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Personally dislike/disgust over idiots who watch UFC.
You people lack my respect in the mean time, as you lack yours.
I cant even express myself in days without getting into a fight.
  Reasons like UFC add up to that.
I would rather look into Fencing s a sport.
People fighting with swords makes for a lot more respectable of a game.
Besides, i know some of the people became fighters is UFC. I would enjoy to watch them kick somebodies ass like Bruce Lee.
Sorry, not so sorry, People enjoy UFC too much in the wrong ways, Making you all, Fools.

Two people fight on a stage? for what meaning. To be the best? Fools.
No meaning, No grace.


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: littleton]
    #23731037 - 10/12/16 11:49 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I like the jiu-jitsu.  All the rest is just brawling.


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: littleton]
    #23731039 - 10/12/16 11:50 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Why do you think fans of Martial Arts, a noble endeavour as ancient as humankind itself, are idiots?

Martial arts are a supreme vehicle for human development.

Mentally, emotionally, physically and spiritually martial artists cultivate excellence and discipline in all areas of their lives.

For as long as there have been humans we have sought to develop our bodies and refine the skills of unarmed combat.

From the Shaolin monks who mastered Kung fu to the Japanese Samurai who developed Judo, the best and brightest have always seen the value of Martial arts not only for self defence but as a path to enlightenment.

As a former competitor in Judo and Inter-provincial Gold Medalist , I learned at 14 what a profound lifestyle marital arts is.

I would not be nearly as good a man, physically mentally or morally, without the lessons and spiritual development I achieved through the discipline and mentorship I acquired through my Judo career.

The modern UFC represents the most developed martial arts the world has ever seen.

The fighters are models of human discipline, determination, courage, strength of character, heart, spirit and tenacity.

You call me an idiot for loving martial arts and respecting those who have dedicated their lives to mastering them.

You call me an idiot for enhancing my own understanding of Martial arts by watching masters in action.

It is ironic that you call me an idiot yet I have three university degrees and a college certificate , including a masters degree, and received six scholarships including a prestigious full ride national fellowship and authored two theses while maintaining a 4.0 GPA, while your own post insulting my intelligence is incoherently written.


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23731042 - 10/12/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

you have to consider boxing a martial art to be a UFC fan.


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23731066 - 10/12/16 12:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Why do you think fans of Martial Arts, a noble endeavour as ancient as humankind itself, are idiots?

Martial arts are a supreme vehicle for human development.

Mentally, emotionally, physically and spiritually martial artists cultivate excellence and discipline in all areas of their lives.

For as long as their have been humans we shave sought to develop our bodies and refine the skills of unarmed combat.

From the Shaolin monks who mastered Kung fu to the Japanese Samurai who developed Judo, the best and brightest have always seen the value of Martial arts not only for self defence but as a path to enlightenment.

As a former competitor in Judo and Inter-proconce Gold Medalist ,
I learned at 14 what a profound lifestyle marital arts is.

The modern UFC represents the most developed martial arts the world has ever seen.

The fighters are models of human discipline, determination, courage, strength of character, heart, spirit and tenacity.

You call me an idiot for loving martial arts and respecting those who have dedicated their lives to mastering them.

You call me an idiot for enhancing my own understanding of Martial arts by watching masters in action.

It is ironic that you call me an idiot yet I have three university degrees and a college certificate , including a masters degree, and received six scholarships including a prestigious full ride national fellowship, while your own post is incoherently written.




For one, It is a Defence, Not an enlightenment. And for all, Enlightenment is only taboo. It is not "real"
Looks like you could really go back into college and learn some more at your "college" abut Martial arts and the meaning of it.

I dont know how self defence is enlightening when you are fighting mobs of armies of people and it is usually a "civil" war. Yeah I am going to go sword fight my neighbor today and after words say Hey! that was so enlightening! Lets do it again soon Buddy! NO.

  You obviously have lots more to learn. And lots more to see. So go ahead, blow your brains out into the world of UFC.

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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: littleton] * 1
    #23731067 - 10/12/16 12:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Personally dislike/disgust over idiots who watch UFC.
You people lack my respect in the mean time, as you lack yours.
I cant even express myself in days without getting into a fight.
  Reasons like UFC add up to that.
I would rather look into Fencing s a sport.
People fighting with swords makes for a lot more respectable of a game.
Besides, i know some of the people became fighters is UFC. I would enjoy to watch them kick somebodies ass like Bruce Lee.
Sorry, not so sorry, People enjoy UFC too much in the wrong ways, Making you all, Fools.

Two people fight on a stage? for what meaning. To be the best? Fools.
No meaning, No grace.



Yeah well that's just like your opinion, man. Body, mind, and spirit. Some people choose mind, some people choose spirit, some people choose body. We all choose our own paths in life and you for instance seem rather judgmental and kinda condescending in the sense of your perception.


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #23731072 - 10/12/16 12:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I like to see blood on the mat.  That's when you can feel the adrenaline.


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: sunshine]
    #23731078 - 10/12/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Boxing is a martial art.

Striking is every bit as sublime an art as grappling.

They are both infinitely complex and infinitely subtle.

Calling striking mere brawling simply belies your own lack of understanding.

Striking in MMA Includes not only the sweet science of boxing but also kickboxing, Muay Thai, karate and Tae Kwon Do, just as the grappling aspect includes not only Jujitsu but also Judo, wrestling and Sambo.


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: littleton]
    #23731080 - 10/12/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You are unworthy of my conversation.


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: littleton] * 1
    #23731081 - 10/12/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Personally dislike/disgust over idiots who watch UFC.
You people lack my respect in the mean time, as you lack yours.
I cant even express myself in days without getting into a fight.
  Reasons like UFC add up to that.
I would rather look into Fencing s a sport.
People fighting with swords makes for a lot more respectable of a game.
Besides, i know some of the people became fighters is UFC. I would enjoy to watch them kick somebodies ass like Bruce Lee.
Sorry, not so sorry, People enjoy UFC too much in the wrong ways, Making you all, Fools.

Two people fight on a stage? for what meaning. To be the best? Fools.
No meaning, No grace.




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For one, It is a Defence, Not an enlightenment. And for all, Enlightenment is only taboo. It is not "real"
Looks like you could really go back into college and learn some more at your "college" abut Martial arts and the meaning of it.

I dont know how self defence is enlightening when you are fighting mobs of armies of people and it is usually a "civil" war. Yeah I am going to go sword fight my neighbor today and after words say Hey! that was so enlightening! Lets do it again soon Buddy! NO.

  You obviously have lots more to learn. And lots more to see. So go ahead, blow your brains out into the world of UFC.

~bunny




The irony of someone espousing bigotry and anger, while lambasting violence.

Fencing :lol:
:chuckback:


These posts are literal nonsense, and as far as enlightenment being an unreal "taboo", different people have different standards for what that word implies.


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: sunshine]
    #23731086 - 10/12/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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sunshine said:
I like the jiu-jitsu.  All the rest is just brawling.




I prefer the brawling


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23731090 - 10/12/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Enlightenment is a very real state of consciousness attainable by any and all through yoga and meditation, characterized by inner peace, tranquility, compassion, love, bliss, joy and wisdom.

My three passions in life are yoga, meditation and martial arts, which properly understood are three facets of the same supreme human endeavour of self perfection and self transcendence.


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23731095 - 10/12/16 12:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I don't view enlightenment as being a mood, if that's all there is to it, its not worth pursuing


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23731105 - 10/12/16 12:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It is not a mood, it is a state of consciousness.

Specifically, the highest or supreme state of consciousness which naturally gives rise to the wisest and most compassionate thoughts and actions and thus- the best possible life.

A society in which enlightenment is fostered and becomes pervasive is a utopia And a world in which such society operates is a paradise.

Enlightenment is liberation from ignorance, transcendence of suffering and awakening from craving, delusion, clinging and desire.

Enlightenment is the ultimate goal of human existence and the highest fulfillment of our purpose in life.


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23731119 - 10/12/16 12:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I don't agree with any of that, except that society would be better off if people were happier.

What you're describing is contentment and maturity in my mind, a precursor to Samadhi, which is a precursor to what I would consider enlightenment.


I only say any of this to point out that there are different views on what "enlightenment" entails.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23731120 - 10/12/16 12:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

They need a guy who specializes in jiu-jitsu.


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23731132 - 10/12/16 12:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Well what is your definition of enlightenment?

What I am describing is obviously not merely contentment or maturity as contentment and maturity clearly don't entail the states and achievements I have described.


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: sunshine]
    #23731134 - 10/12/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Who does ?

The UFC?

There are many Jujitsu masters in UFC.

The greatest of them are Demian Maia and Jaque Array.


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23731141 - 10/12/16 12:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'd like to see more jiu-jitsu.  They need Eddie Bravo to step into the octagon for a sorcerer submission.


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: sunshine]
    #23731149 - 10/12/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

There is a huge amount of Jujitsu in UFC sir.

Along with Muay Thai and wrestling Jujitsu is one of the three pillars of UFC.

The majority of UFC fighters are advanced in Jujitsu and many have black belts.

If you want to see the best Jujitsu in the world watch Demian Maia and Jaque Array fights.

Demian Maia literally uses pure Jujitsu to win his fights.


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23731158 - 10/12/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I don't want to see anyone get hurt.  Jiu-jitsu is for gentle submissions.


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: sunshine]
    #23731173 - 10/12/16 12:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Then watch Jujitsu competitions , not MMA.

As a Judo (the gentle way) competitor I can tell you that even in the gentler marital arts people get badly hurt  (I certainly have) but if you are sensitive it's best to watch grappling competitions instead.


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23731219 - 10/12/16 01:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Well what is your definition of enlightenment?

What I am describing is obviously not merely contentment or maturity as contentment and maturity clearly don't entail the states and achievements I have described.




I prefer to keep my views on mysticism mostly private, I've never discussed them in depth with anyone and likely never will.
All I will say is that my views and practices are built on out of body experiences, there is more, but it is a very tangible practice.

I don't see how your definition goes beyond a mood, ideal or way of looking at life.
To call that an ultimate goal seems a stretch, what makes it more desirable than drinking and whoring?


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23731236 - 10/12/16 01:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Well I gave my definition of enlightenment and you said you disagreed.

That means you have your own definition of enlightenment that you think is more correct.

So the honorable thing to do when you disparage someone else's idea as incorrect is to share your own superior idea.

Otherwise you should not have called the other person wrong in the first place.


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23731245 - 10/12/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Well I gave my definition of enlightenment and you said you disagreed.

That means you have your own definition of enlightenment that you think is more correct.

So the honorable thing to do when you disparage someone else's idea as incorrect is to share your own superior idea.

Otherwise you should not have called the other person wrong in the first place.




That's not really what happened  :shrug:

I said people have different ideas of what the word "enlightenment" means
You gave an answer in a definitive sense and I disagreed with it and stated that it doesn't sound like a desirable goal

Honor doesn't mean much to me


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23731249 - 10/12/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

But when you disagree you must explain why you disagree and on what grounds.


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    #23731266 - 10/12/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

By disagreeing on the definition, I'm already explaining
Because the point was that there are multiple views of the concept

Also linked to "the age of enlightenment" wiki, which was meant to bring European philosophy to mind, which is much more contentious than the popular forms of eastern philosophy, and the word enlightenment used to be thrown around quite a bit.


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23731292 - 10/12/16 01:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

So you are disagreeing that inner peace, tranquility, compassion and wisdom is a desirable goal ?


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23731302 - 10/12/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I want to get into MMA contests.


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: sunshine]
    #23731305 - 10/12/16 01:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You mean compete in MMA?

How old are you?

I won't compete in MMA because of the unavoisable brain injury but I do train for it intensively.


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    #23731317 - 10/12/16 01:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I want to submit a guy using brutal arm bars that hurt.


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    #23731325 - 10/12/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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So you are disagreeing that inner peace, tranquility, compassion and wisdom is a desirable goal ?




The original point was on the multiplicity of definitions for what constitutes "enlightenment"
I disagree that it is an "ultimate" goal, or that it constitutes "enlightenment"

Inner peace and all that, is just a facet of maturity imo


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23731330 - 10/12/16 01:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

There are multiple definitions of any word.

But it is meaningless to disagree with my definition unless you offer an alternative one of your own and explain why it is superior.


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: sunshine]
    #23731332 - 10/12/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Well then join a Judo or Jujitsu class.


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23731340 - 10/12/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I am moving to Las Vegas to compete in MMA.  I say fuck judo.  It's all about BJJ.


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: sunshine]
    #23731348 - 10/12/16 01:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Jujitsu is indeed a superior / more complete combat system than Judo.

Judo is an excellent sport though and great for developing a basic grasp of grappling, excellent take downs and arm bar, choke and pinning skills

Ronda Rousey is an example of a dominant mixed martial arts champion using a pure Judo base.


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23731354 - 10/12/16 01:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'm only worried about my wimpy looking chest.


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: sunshine]
    #23731360 - 10/12/16 01:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Do some bench presses and take protein powder and creatine.


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    #23731367 - 10/12/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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There are multiple definitions of any word.

But it is meaningless to disagree with my definition unless you offer an alternative one of your own and explain why it is superior.




Not really, its not a matter of better or worse views, the view has to stand on its own

Experience is the great teacher, if my views are correct then there is no need for propagation


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23731378 - 10/12/16 02:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I disagree with everything you said, but I won't explain why.

I respectfully choose not to engage further with you because without you expressing your own alternative views there can be no legitimate or productive discussion or debate.


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Re: UFC 205 ! [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23781742 - 10/29/16 02:51 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)



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