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Moonshoe
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There is a huge amount of Jujitsu in UFC sir.
Along with Muay Thai and wrestling Jujitsu is one of the three pillars of UFC.
The majority of UFC fighters are advanced in Jujitsu and many have black belts.
If you want to see the best Jujitsu in the world watch Demian Maia and Jaque Array fights.
Demian Maia literally uses pure Jujitsu to win his fights.
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sunshine
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I don't want to see anyone get hurt. Jiu-jitsu is for gentle submissions.
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Moonshoe
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Then watch Jujitsu competitions , not MMA.
As a Judo (the gentle way) competitor I can tell you that even in the gentler marital arts people get badly hurt (I certainly have) but if you are sensitive it's best to watch grappling competitions instead.
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Moonshoe said: Well what is your definition of enlightenment?
What I am describing is obviously not merely contentment or maturity as contentment and maturity clearly don't entail the states and achievements I have described.
I prefer to keep my views on mysticism mostly private, I've never discussed them in depth with anyone and likely never will. All I will say is that my views and practices are built on out of body experiences, there is more, but it is a very tangible practice.
I don't see how your definition goes beyond a mood, ideal or way of looking at life. To call that an ultimate goal seems a stretch, what makes it more desirable than drinking and whoring?
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Moonshoe
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Well I gave my definition of enlightenment and you said you disagreed.
That means you have your own definition of enlightenment that you think is more correct.
So the honorable thing to do when you disparage someone else's idea as incorrect is to share your own superior idea.
Otherwise you should not have called the other person wrong in the first place.
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Moonshoe said: Well I gave my definition of enlightenment and you said you disagreed.
That means you have your own definition of enlightenment that you think is more correct.
So the honorable thing to do when you disparage someone else's idea as incorrect is to share your own superior idea.
Otherwise you should not have called the other person wrong in the first place.
That's not really what happened 
I said people have different ideas of what the word "enlightenment" means You gave an answer in a definitive sense and I disagreed with it and stated that it doesn't sound like a desirable goal
Honor doesn't mean much to me
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Moonshoe
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But when you disagree you must explain why you disagree and on what grounds.
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By disagreeing on the definition, I'm already explaining Because the point was that there are multiple views of the concept
Also linked to "the age of enlightenment" wiki, which was meant to bring European philosophy to mind, which is much more contentious than the popular forms of eastern philosophy, and the word enlightenment used to be thrown around quite a bit.
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Moonshoe
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So you are disagreeing that inner peace, tranquility, compassion and wisdom is a desirable goal ?
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sunshine
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I want to get into MMA contests.
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Moonshoe
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You mean compete in MMA?
How old are you?
I won't compete in MMA because of the unavoisable brain injury but I do train for it intensively.
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sunshine
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I want to submit a guy using brutal arm bars that hurt.
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Moonshoe said: So you are disagreeing that inner peace, tranquility, compassion and wisdom is a desirable goal ?
The original point was on the multiplicity of definitions for what constitutes "enlightenment" I disagree that it is an "ultimate" goal, or that it constitutes "enlightenment"
Inner peace and all that, is just a facet of maturity imo
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Moonshoe
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There are multiple definitions of any word.
But it is meaningless to disagree with my definition unless you offer an alternative one of your own and explain why it is superior.
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Moonshoe
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Well then join a Judo or Jujitsu class.
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sunshine
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I am moving to Las Vegas to compete in MMA. I say fuck judo. It's all about BJJ.
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Moonshoe
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Jujitsu is indeed a superior / more complete combat system than Judo.
Judo is an excellent sport though and great for developing a basic grasp of grappling, excellent take downs and arm bar, choke and pinning skills
Ronda Rousey is an example of a dominant mixed martial arts champion using a pure Judo base.
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sunshine
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I'm only worried about my wimpy looking chest.
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Moonshoe
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Do some bench presses and take protein powder and creatine.
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Moonshoe said: There are multiple definitions of any word.
But it is meaningless to disagree with my definition unless you offer an alternative one of your own and explain why it is superior.
Not really, its not a matter of better or worse views, the view has to stand on its own
Experience is the great teacher, if my views are correct then there is no need for propagation
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