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Re: In Leaked Speech, Clinton Promises Bankers to Stand Against Pot Legalization [Re: koods]
    #23739315 - 10/15/16 07:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Wiki leaks is just making shit up at this point.




oh really?





you know how it is, when it was about bush or republicans, wikileaks was 100% infallible

now that it's exposing the woman that koods wants to be, it's all lies


but you know the response was, "the russians hacked the DNC emails!" as opposed to
"I guess we should have known better than to email each other a bunch of racist
crap and conspire againsnt one of our own, for that we are sorry"

now it's "wikileaks is trying to sully my reputation" instead of "I'm only human,
of course I run a criminal enterprise, murder people, have others murdered and sit
back and cackle while still more are murdered, I embezzle funds from my charity,
sell government secrets and nuclear arms to our enemies and even eat babies for
breakfast because I am satan





Wikileaks is definitely attempting to sully her reputation. Clearly, these leaks are an attempt to destroy Clinton's ability to win the election. Assange has said as much, and keeps advertising bombshell revelations will lead to her indictment. :yawn:.

The rest of what you said is total bullshit.





wikileaks didnt write her emails, wikileaks didnt store classified emails on her
private server, wikileaks didnt get 4 men in benghazi killed through her inaction,
wikileaks didnt sell nuclear material to the russians

maybe if she didnt do these things then she couldnt be dirtied


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Re: In Leaked Speech, Clinton Promises Bankers to Stand Against Pot Legalization [Re: koods]
    #23739319 - 10/15/16 07:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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meanwhile, who knows what Trump thinks. He's such a dullard, you really can't make much sense of his word salad:
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“In terms of marijuana and legalization, I think that should be a state issue, state-by-state. … Marijuana is such a big thing. I think medical should happen — right? Don’t we agree? I think so. And then I really believe we should leave it up to the states.” Washington Post, October 29, 2015

“I’d say [regulating marijuana] is bad. Medical marijuana is another thing, but I think it’s bad and I feel strongly about that. [Moderator: “What about the states’ right aspect of it?”] If they vote for it, they vote for it… But I think, medical marijuana, 100%.” C-SPAN, June 23, 2015








his words are pretty clear, much more clear than obama's words on marijuana


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Re: In Leaked Speech, Clinton Promises Bankers to Stand Against Pot Legalization [Re: Turtletotem]
    #23739346 - 10/15/16 07:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'm sorry, but claiming Clinton is a warmonger because she advocated intervening in the Libyan civil war is just absurd. Ghaddafi was massacring his people. They begged for help. The same thing is happening in Syria. ISIS has killed tens of thousands of people in Iraq and Syria. We could not get involved at all, but then you have to accept that people will die because you did nothing.


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Re: In Leaked Speech, Clinton Promises Bankers to Stand Against Pot Legalization [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23739351 - 10/15/16 07:32 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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meanwhile, who knows what Trump thinks. He's such a dullard, you really can't make much sense of his word salad:
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“In terms of marijuana and legalization, I think that should be a state issue, state-by-state. … Marijuana is such a big thing. I think medical should happen — right? Don’t we agree? I think so. And then I really believe we should leave it up to the states.” Washington Post, October 29, 2015

“I’d say [regulating marijuana] is bad. Medical marijuana is another thing, but I think it’s bad and I feel strongly about that. [Moderator: “What about the states’ right aspect of it?”] If they vote for it, they vote for it… But I think, medical marijuana, 100%.” C-SPAN, June 23, 2015








his words are pretty clear, much more clear than obama's words on marijuana




OK sure. Why don't you explain what he's saying here "id say [regulating marijuana] is bad. Medical marijuana is another thing, but I think it’s bad and I feel strongly about that"


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Re: In Leaked Speech, Clinton Promises Bankers to Stand Against Pot Legalization [Re: koods]
    #23739369 - 10/15/16 07:46 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm sorry, but claiming Clinton is a warmonger because she advocated intervening in the Libyan civil war is just absurd. Ghaddafi was massacring his people. They begged for help. The same thing is happening in Syria. ISIS has killed tens of thousands of people in Iraq and Syria. We could not get involved at all, but then you have to accept that people will die because you did nothing.





it was their war

do you support the bush administration going into Iraq and Afghanistan?


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Re: In Leaked Speech, Clinton Promises Bankers to Stand Against Pot Legalization [Re: koods]
    #23739385 - 10/15/16 07:54 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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meanwhile, who knows what Trump thinks. He's such a dullard, you really can't make much sense of his word salad:
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“In terms of marijuana and legalization, I think that should be a state issue, state-by-state. … Marijuana is such a big thing. I think medical should happen — right? Don’t we agree? I think so. And then I really believe we should leave it up to the states.” Washington Post, October 29, 2015

“I’d say [regulating marijuana] is bad. Medical marijuana is another thing, but I think it’s bad and I feel strongly about that. [Moderator: “What about the states’ right aspect of it?”] If they vote for it, they vote for it… But I think, medical marijuana, 100%.” C-SPAN, June 23, 2015








his words are pretty clear, much more clear than obama's words on marijuana




OK sure. Why don't you explain what he's saying here "id say [regulating marijuana] is bad. Medical marijuana is another thing, but I think it’s bad and I feel strongly about that"





I forgot, you're a progressive so you need others to do your thinking


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Re: In Leaked Speech, Clinton Promises Bankers to Stand Against Pot Legalization [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23739386 - 10/15/16 07:55 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Afghanistan was understandable. Iraq was a war that Bush chose to  persue and then fabricated intelligence and lied about the evidence to make it happen.


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Re: In Leaked Speech, Clinton Promises Bankers to Stand Against Pot Legalization [Re: koods] * 1
    #23739394 - 10/15/16 08:01 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Afghanistan was understandable. Iraq was a war that Bush chose to  persue and then fabricated intelligence and lied about the evidence to make it happen.




Afghanistan was an atrocity. Iraq was an atrocity. Syria and Lybia are atrocities.

DON'T, ever, get your information about wars your country is in from STATE SPONSORED news sources, you fool.
At least read many different accounts.

Me, I got something I think is even better: the actual people who lived in those countries and fled for their lives.
Most of them are friendly, go visit some sometime. Ask them how evil Gadaffi was, or how believable it is that Assad used his chemical weapons...

Next Up in America's eternal war:
Iran!
Look at how your media (and ours as an extension) is painting the people there.


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Re: In Leaked Speech, Clinton Promises Bankers to Stand Against Pot Legalization [Re: Turtletotem]
    #23739414 - 10/15/16 08:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Europe was fucking around with the Middle East before the US even existed.  We didn't invent that pastime, you're just mad cause we're just the best at it.


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Re: In Leaked Speech, Clinton Promises Bankers to Stand Against Pot Legalization [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23739437 - 10/15/16 08:27 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Europe was fucking around with the Middle East before the US even existed.  We didn't invent that pastime, you're just mad cause we're just the best at it.




That is kinda true, yeah. But it must stop.


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Re: In Leaked Speech, Clinton Promises Bankers to Stand Against Pot Legalization [Re: koods]
    #23739440 - 10/15/16 08:29 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Fabricated evidence sure, you could argue there has been fabricated evidence for the proxy war in Syria as well. The Sarin gas incident comes to mind, for weeks the media parroted that it was Assads government using them, followed by quiet retractions later. (The retractions were not whether it was the government or not, but that we didn't actually know who was doing the attack before pointing the finger. Shakey evidence, same thing happened in Iraq).

It's pretty similar to Iraq if you think about it. Saddam wasn't a good guy by any means, and he did carry out chemical attacks on cities in the 80s and other mass atrocities. Both were intervened on using faulty evidence.

Obama has said that we're not the world's policeman. He's just another politician parroting what people want to hear while acting differently. It's been interesting to see democrats go from anti-war, anti-world police, get out of the middle East, to being gung ho about stopping atrocities on whatever evidence is available at the time in fewer than 8 years.

It's been equally interesting seeing Republicans change tact as well for reasons of political convenience.

Was it the demands of the presidential office that changed Obama's mind on use of force tactics? And that of many of his supporters as well? It just seems to me that there were many campaign promises from the guy that a lot of conservatives said were impossible, and here we are 8 years later and the wars are picking up, not ending.

That's not an endorsement nor a criticism of his choices though. I just find it interesting how people's acceptance of war is more associated with their party alignment than with ethical beliefs on warfare.

Party politics is largely just a means of psychological coercion in my mind. Keep people focused and angry on social issues, never really change stances on geopolitical intervention. Perhaps because the situation of the world truly does demand our intervention, sucks we need to lie about our intentions so consistently while doing the opposite.

As a populace, we've started to accept the lies at face value. We know they are lies, but like the story they tell.


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Re: In Leaked Speech, Clinton Promises Bankers to Stand Against Pot Legalization [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23739453 - 10/15/16 08:37 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: In Leaked Speech, Clinton Promises Bankers to Stand Against Pot Legalization [Re: Turtletotem]
    #23739908 - 10/15/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

This whole thing stinks to high heaven.

And Koods is on some mental gymnastics bullshit again as per usual.


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Re: In Leaked Speech, Clinton Promises Bankers to Stand Against Pot Legalization [Re: Turtletotem]
    #23740036 - 10/15/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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god damn it can't you see it's NOT these puppets that are doing all this?





Sadly it's much easier to just blame the president... "I didn't vote for him" :snub:


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Re: In Leaked Speech, Clinton Promises Bankers to Stand Against Pot Legalization [Re: Great Scott]
    #23740046 - 10/15/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I didn't follow the whole thread but if there were a room full of bankers that could bankroll something I planned on doing, something like running for POTUS, you can be damn sure I'd tell them WHATEVER THEY WANTED TO HEAR as long as they put that cash in my pocket at the end of the day.  What's thef first rule of show business?  "Give them what they want."
If Clinton's a true politician, she's backtalking everyone everywhere with half-truths and half-promises in exchange for commitment, with no ability or intent to follow through on them after she gets elected and paid.


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Re: In Leaked Speech, Clinton Promises Bankers to Stand Against Pot Legalization [Re: abltsandwich]
    #23740709 - 10/15/16 07:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I didn't follow the whole thread but if there were a room full of bankers that could bankroll something I planned on doing, something like running for POTUS, you can be damn sure I'd tell them WHATEVER THEY WANTED TO HEAR as long as they put that cash in my pocket at the end of the day.  What's thef first rule of show business?  "Give them what they want."
If Clinton's a true politician, she's backtalking everyone everywhere with half-truths and half-promises in exchange for commitment, with no ability or intent to follow through on them after she gets elected and paid.



You've got it confused. She's lying to the American people to get their vote. Shes's telling the mega-donors what she's really going to do so they pay her.


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Re: In Leaked Speech, Clinton Promises Bankers to Stand Against Pot Legalization [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23740742 - 10/15/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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TRUMP = DEATH LOL




That's not unlikely.

Put a thoroughly incompetent fool like Hillary in the oval office, someone impatient, with an inflated ego and seemingly no ability to think, and we could quickly be drawn into another war. People die in wars.




Fixed it for ya. -:smirk:


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Re: In Leaked Speech, Clinton Promises Bankers to Stand Against Pot Legalization [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23740756 - 10/15/16 08:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Fixed it for ya. -:smirk:




So you don't think trump is likely to get us into a war?


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Re: In Leaked Speech, Clinton Promises Bankers to Stand Against Pot Legalization [Re: musiclover420]
    #23740758 - 10/15/16 08:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Fixed it for ya. -:smirk:




So you don't think trump is likely to get us into a war?



No. Hillary is the war hawk.


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Re: In Leaked Speech, Clinton Promises Bankers to Stand Against Pot Legalization [Re: Webster10]
    #23740799 - 10/15/16 08:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I've said this before.  We KNOW what hillary will do.  I'd rather take a chance on the unknown at this point, which is trump.


By the way, Q: how do Hillary supporters blow their brains out?
            A: They squat and shit.

:rofl2:  That was a joke.


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