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Leviticus969



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Smashing Pumpkins
#23729419 - 10/11/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wanna go around destroying these graven images, smashing pumpkins this year. How is it everyones accepted this idea of carving a pumpkin and giving a special month to halloween but we dont have nothing like this for our creator that gave us life?
We idolize fictional characters and dress up as random characters but tell the majority of americans about who Yahweh is and they're dumbfounded. We drive our God to jealousie praising nonsense.
I mean halloween is fun dont get me wrong but is it really worth it... Dont you want to see what God REALLY has to offer?
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God will corruptly swallow all of your dreams and spit you out on the curb, with no memory of it.
Dont take the red pill.
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Re: Smashing Pumpkins [Re: littleton]
#23729439 - 10/11/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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God curses and blesses for obediance/disobediance
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Re: Smashing Pumpkins [Re: littleton]
#23729443 - 10/11/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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But hey! On an even less real note! I do think this world needs a new holiday. Maybe not just a holiday. But a day in memoir. Like 9/11 On this side of the country we dont even have 9/11 off. Which is fucking rational. It is the reasons like that, which we wont ever have a holiday to celebrate the all mighty creation of "humans" But i think that day was given to Jesus Christ. So dont say human figures dont have a day in their celebration. We do. We just dont get to pick and chose. Anyways I think that if there were a day of god. It would be the last day of every year. And the year after is a day shorter for each year that passes by. Example the 31st of December is the celebration day of god. The year after will only go till december 30th. than the next year will only go till the 29th of december, and so on. All in the Holiness of god.
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The same thought process that made people begin to carve pumpkins to ward off evil spirits, is behind the creation of religions too.
What type of example are you planning on setting by smashing some kids fun? Imagine if some parent sat down and carved a pumpkin with their kid, then you come along and trash their bonding creation. They were only being creative, which by your beliefs, your God instilled these creative ways into their being, so when you smash pumpkins, you're smashing a part of your creator as well.
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Re: Smashing Pumpkins [Re: Lucis]
#23730080 - 10/12/16 01:13 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Buy a bag of Reese's butter cups and 1/2 a gallon of whole milk. Buy some nice candles. Turn off your porch lights. Do not answer the door for the annoying asshats that don't get the message.
Turn off indoor lights. Light candles. Consume Reese's butter cups while splashing it down with some wholesome milk. Listen to Album (The Smashing Pumpkins 'Siamese Dream') Drift away
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Re: Smashing Pumpkins [Re: phio]
#23730100 - 10/12/16 01:34 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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phio said: Buy a bag of Reese's butter cups and 1/2 a gallon of whole milk. Buy some nice candles. Turn off your porch lights. Do not answer the door for the annoying asshats that don't get the message.
Turn off indoor lights. Light candles. Consume Reese's butter cups while splashing it down with some wholesome milk. Listen to Album (The Smashing Pumpkins 'Siamese Dream') Drift away

I 2nd this.
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Re: Smashing Pumpkins [Re: Lucis]
#23730209 - 10/12/16 04:15 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I went to this halloween party where women dressed as my favorite hoochie cartoons and I was spongebob square pants and we got drunk and fucked like rabbits on easter it was sooooo fun I was creating babies! It was a great bonding experience! my mother approves!
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The world is a vampire, sent to drain Secret destroyers, hold you up to the flames And what do I get, for my pain? Betrayed desires, and a piece of the game
Then someone will say what is lost can never be saved Despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage
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Great band. But you're talking about vandalism, which is lame kid shit. If you're posting here you're supposed to be an adult, and there's no excuse to be vandalizing shit. How would you feel if someone keyed your car or graffitied your residence?
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Leviticus969 said: God curses and blesses for obediance/disobediance
Making a carved pumpkin is not idolatry, unless of course you start worshiping it. We can also thank Yah for sending His Son to die for us ALL so that there is no longer condemnation. We are forgiven! He blesses those that are faithful in Him through His Son Yashua HaMaschiach. Im sure the is about to fly, so if you would like to discuss this further hit me up in
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Re: Smashing Pumpkins [Re: Aiko Aiko]
#23730520 - 10/12/16 08:44 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just wanted to add, Halloween is my favorite holiday.
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Leviticus969 said: The world is a vampire, sent to drain Secret destroyers, hold you up to the flames And what do I get, for my pain? Betrayed desires, and a piece of the game
Then someone will say what is lost can never be saved Despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage

(Whole milk)
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Re: Smashing Pumpkins [Re: Dark_Star]
#23731102 - 10/12/16 12:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: Great band. But you're talking about vandalism, which is lame kid shit. If you're posting here you're supposed to be an adult, and there's no excuse to be vandalizing shit. How would you feel if someone keyed your car or graffitied your residence?
Just because you did it as a kid, that does not mean there isn't something "spiritual" about it to any other person or adult. Really Maybe you could learn something if you went out this year and smashing a families decorate pumpkin. if i could id gather everybody i know, and go, smashing pumpkins in the street.
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Re: Smashing Pumpkins [Re: littleton]
#23733175 - 10/13/16 05:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I never vandalized shit as a kid. But it's something kids do, and there's nothing spiritual about it. It's childish.
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Re: Smashing Pumpkins [Re: Dark_Star]
#23733731 - 10/13/16 10:55 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I vandalized when I was a kid and it was great and simple freedom of expression. Now I'm an adult and I identify as more of a fascist because I realize most people are too stupid to choose peace.
National socialists are great because they understand that idiots like me need welfare.
I'm an idiot because I'm too intelligent to work for anyone but myself yet I have no skills that anyone really wants.
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Re: Smashing Pumpkins [Re: Dark_Star]
#23735827 - 10/14/16 12:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Voodoo dolls and Graven Images
A quote from Loki from the movie Dogma:
Loki: I can't believe you forgot the magazine. That's you. Do you know much about voodoo? That's a fascinating practice. No real doctrine of faith to speak of. More an arrangement of superstitions the most well-known of which is the voodoo doll.You see, a mockup of an individual is subjected to various pokes and prods.The desired result is that the individual will feel those effects.
Watch this 7 min clip carefully and see what happens to this voodoo doll....(graven image)
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Re: Smashing Pumpkins [Re: Aiko Aiko]
#23735842 - 10/14/16 12:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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"You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth. 5"You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me but showing loving kindness to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.…
worship - - the object of adoring reverence or regard.
- formal or ceremonious rendering of such honor and homage:
Many people are confused about the whole Jesus thing. The new testament claims that YHWH sent his only son here on earth to die but many aren't aware that Jesus/Yeshua is actually Lucifer. America is Luciferian that's why you see so many people that are Christians but at the same time they are really into satanic/heathen shit.
Yeshua was said to come down and die for our sins so that, like you say:
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We can also thank Yah for sending His Son to die for us ALL so that there is no longer condemnation. We are forgiven!
That's like saying: Oh, jesus died for our sins so it's ok to break all the commandments. We're forgiven! Things such as adultery, murder, stealing, idolatry, dishonoring parents, etc.
Ever heard of Karma? What goes around comes around?
If you get caught with murder for instance, you think you'll be forgiven? No, your ass is going to prison. You can believe in Yeshua all you want your life is done for.
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I think you should read your Tanakh. God Himself says that He is.a jealous El in Exodus 34:14. "For you do not bow yourself to another one, for Yahweh (God), whose name is jealous, is a jealous El". Do you think He is just making statements without any substance. He says much more about himself, all of which Christianity wish to ignore. He tells us very clearly who He is and who He isn't. He says: I am the Only Elohim, there is no one beside Me (Deut 4:35, 39; 6:4; 32:39; 1Kings 8:60; Isaiah 45:5-6,18; 46:9-10) I am the Only healer (Ex 15:26; 23:25) I am the Only Saviour ( Isaiah 43:11; 45:20-22; Hosea 13:4) It is clear that He says He is the only God, the only healer and the only saviour. Why do we then believe there is another saviour? if He clearly tells us He Is the only one. What part is so hard to understand. He also tells us who He isn't. He says: He says He is not man that He should repent (1 Sam 15:29; Hosea 11:9) He also says He is not man, nor the son of man, to repent (Num 23:19) Despite the fact that He spells it out that He is not the son of man, all of Christianity believe he is the son of man (Jesus). So the deny the Truth of Gods own words. He categorically says in Ex 34:14: "For you do not bow yourselves to another mighty one (Jesus?), for God whose whose Name is jealous, is a jealous El" He says: I am the first and the last, besides me there is no God (Isaiah 41:4, 48:12, 44:6) Finally He says in Isaiah 42:8 " I am Yahweh, that us My Name, and my esteem I do not give to another, nor my praise to idols". Do we have a clear picture of who He is and isn't. Could there be any doubt. You can think what you like, if you do not know what He says about Himself. But now you have read for yourself about His character, His attributes.
Trust you read more from the OT (Tanakh) and not make unsubstantiated comments based on the false teachings of the NT
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Re: Smashing Pumpkins [Re: Dark_Star]
#23735852 - 10/14/16 12:43 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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But you're talking about vandalism, which is lame kid shit. If you're posting here you're supposed to be an adult, and there's no excuse to be vandalizing shit. How would you feel if someone keyed your car or graffitied your residence?
Destroying graven images is a law of our Creator. I dont see anything wrong with it.
Someone destroying my car or home is not the same. My car and house is not a graven image. If I have a graven image set up somewhere, which I dont, I wouldn't mind someone smashing it to pieces.
Also, if you think vandalism is lame kid shit, you should take it up with the elitist who destroyed the twin towers on 9/11 or how we were in Iraq for oil vandalizing peoples lives and homes.
Vandalism is always going to exist but what makes it kid shit and grown man shit is what we vandalize.
Honestly, I don't think smashing pumpkins is bad...
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Navigating roundabouts is tricky business when you've decided that the "superior" view a telescope affords is the only image to drive by.
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A pumpkin lantern is actually an entity which supposedly scares away evil spirits whilst lighting the good path, so it's baffling (beyond given naivety and immaturity) as to why one who implies knowing God would wish to go smashing them.
Usually people who do understand God, don't tend to run around smashing anything, but instead curb their contempt for some things in the world and lead by calm example, because they know ultimately that they only curse themselves.
The Old Testament is Old. It was rectified by the New for the benefit of those who were (and are) still transfixed on 'curses' which are actually acts of self condemnation, scapegoated to 'God'.
The world isn't meant to be perfect. It isn't all meant to go our way. The game is not a game without a challenge and a game is not championed by smashing up the pieces.
We take charge of ourselves, lest we lose from the outset.
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You're trippn if you think the old testament is just old and shouldn't be followed anymore....
In this life we're given 2 options to choose from. True or false. Life or death. The force or the darkside... The old testament or the new testament. The old ways or the new world order... YHWH, the God/Creator of the universe or Man, the rebellious "son".
Saying the old testament laws are done away with is like saying the Creator and God of this universe doesn't know what he's talking about and only made those laws up for shits and giggles.
Anyone who loves evil and to do evil will always find excuses for it to be ok. Simple as that. And everytime someone sins there will always be consequences in the world, whether it be slavery, war, natural disasters etc.
People find it so hard to come to terms that yes, life on this earth can be ALL ABOUT BLISS AND PEACE. But it's never going to get there as long as you mope around thinking waaaaaaaahhh we'll never be perfect blah blah blah i'm a piece of shit and nothings gunna change...
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Now therefore hearken, O Israel, unto the statutes and unto the judgments, which I teach you, for to do them, that ye may live, and go in and possess the land which the Lord God of your fathers giveth you.
2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.
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40 Thou shalt keep therefore his statutes, and his commandments, which I command thee this day, that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee, and that thou mayest prolong thy days upon the earth, which the Lord thy God giveth thee, FOR EVER.
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One of the commandments is to honor thy parents.... If you think Christ honored YHWH you're deluded... He came and changed up the commandments... absolved sins that werent supposed to be absolved. Pretty much let evil run amuck.
Saying the old testament laws are done away with is like saying it's ok to be adulterous now, it's ok to steal now, it's ok to kill now, it's ok to covet now etc.
Moreover, if you really think the EVERLASTING covenants are done away with than you should be prepared for another world flood. But that won't happen because YHWH made an EVERLASTING COVENANT.
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And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you;
10 And with every living creature that is with you, of the fowl, of the cattle, and of every beast of the earth with you; from all that go out of the ark, to every beast of the earth.
11 And I will establish my covenant with you, neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.
12 And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:
13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.
14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.
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A pumpkin may seem harmless but think about the whole concept....
You're engraving a pumpkin to look like someones face, which is forbidden.... You put a "light" in there attracting moths to a flame....
People come to this pumpkin and give regard and praise to it. They ring a doorbell and get "candy".
If this isn't some kind of idol worship practice I don't know what is.
Yeah I love Halloween as I've been raised with it but really it's a weird ass holiday and I haven't gone trick or treating since like 17, and that was only because my gf at the time wanted to go. You get candy wow big whoop.
There are a shit ton of better holidays I could think up then this.
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Yes, the jackolantern is the spawn of satan. 
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Leviticus969 said: You're trippn if you think the old testament is just old and shouldn't be followed anymore....
In this life we're given 2 options to choose from. True or false. Life or death. The force or the darkside... The old testament or the new testament. The old ways or the new world order... YHWH, the God/Creator of the universe or Man, the rebellious "son".
Saying the old testament laws are done away with is like saying the Creator and God of this universe doesn't know what he's talking about and only made those laws up for shits and giggles.
Anyone who loves evil and to do evil will always find excuses for it to be ok. Simple as that. And everytime someone sins there will always be consequences in the world, whether it be slavery, war, natural disasters etc.
People find it so hard to come to terms that yes, life on this earth can be ALL ABOUT BLISS AND PEACE. But it's never going to get there as long as you mope around thinking waaaaaaaahhh we'll never be perfect blah blah blah i'm a piece of shit and nothings gunna change...
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Now therefore hearken, O Israel, unto the statutes and unto the judgments, which I teach you, for to do them, that ye may live, and go in and possess the land which the Lord God of your fathers giveth you.
2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.
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40 Thou shalt keep therefore his statutes, and his commandments, which I command thee this day, that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee, and that thou mayest prolong thy days upon the earth, which the Lord thy God giveth thee, FOR EVER.
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Leviticus969 said: One of the commandments is to honor thy parents.... If you think Christ honored YHWH you're deluded... He came and changed up the commandments... absolved sins that werent supposed to be absolved. Pretty much let evil run amuck.
Saying the old testament laws are done away with is like saying it's ok to be adulterous now, it's ok to steal now, it's ok to kill now, it's ok to covet now etc.
Moreover, if you really think the EVERLASTING covenants are done away with than you should be prepared for another world flood. But that won't happen because YHWH made an EVERLASTING COVENANT.
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And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you;
10 And with every living creature that is with you, of the fowl, of the cattle, and of every beast of the earth with you; from all that go out of the ark, to every beast of the earth.
11 And I will establish my covenant with you, neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.
12 And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:
13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.
14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.

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Leviticus969 said: A pumpkin may seem harmless but think about the whole concept....
You're engraving a pumpkin to look like someones face, which is forbidden.... You put a "light" in there attracting moths to a flame....
People come to this pumpkin and give regard and praise to it. They ring a doorbell and get "candy".
If this isn't some kind of idol worship practice I don't know what is.
Yeah I love Halloween as I've been raised with it but really it's a weird ass holiday and I haven't gone trick or treating since like 17, and that was only because my gf at the time wanted to go. You get candy wow big whoop.
There are a shit ton of better holidays I could think up then this.
I'm beginning to think pumpkin smashing is perhaps the ideal therapy for you.
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