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Growing in dark
    #23729375 - 10/11/16 08:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I understand there are other threads about this. However it seems like no one can come to a conclusion.

Theoretically, mushrooms don't perform photosynthesis, therefore they wouldn't need light to grow. I am planning my first grow and am planning to do it in a dark place. I have an understanding that most people use lights in their fruiting chambers. But for what reason? Mycelium technically speaking is the body of the fungus and the mushrooms is the fruit. But Mycelium needs to grow in the dark.

Does anyone have a reason light would be absolutely necessary in fruiting?


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin] * 1
    #23729412 - 10/11/16 08:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You don't perform photosynthesis, but we don't keep you in the basement. I think it has to do with surface warmth that the light provides and maybe vitamin D, idk.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #23729425 - 10/11/16 08:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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You don't perform photosynthesis, but we don't keep you in the basement. I think it has to do with surface warmth that the light provides and maybe vitamin D, idk.




yet i could survive in the dark, just wouldn't be able to see. And mushrooms dont have eyes. The only kind of light that provides vitamin D is light from the sun.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23729521 - 10/11/16 09:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

They derive energy from light, but its not via photosynthesis. Unlighted grows don't perform as well as those that recieve light

Mycelium doesn't need to be in the dark at any point.actually light is beneficial at every stage. There's no reason anything cubensis needs to ever be in the dark on purpose

Incubation in total darkness is 20 year old info.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23729621 - 10/11/16 09:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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bodhisatta said:
They derive energy from light, but its not via photosynthesis. Unlighted grows don't perform as well as those that recieve light

Mycelium doesn't need to be in the dark at any point.actually light is beneficial at every stage. There's no reason anything cubensis needs to ever be in the dark on purpose

Incubation in total darkness is 20 year old info.




Oh okay. I didn't take much consideration the pf tek was created in '97.

Say i'm forced to do an unlighted grow where i can only occasionally but in natural light. I'm planning on dunking the cakes as well. Would i get decent results?

This is my first attempt at growing and i was originally going to place the cakes outside in a bed, but i've recently decided to do it in doors with the top cut off of water gallons covered with seran wrap with perlite on the bottom.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23729717 - 10/11/16 10:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

bodhisatta said:
They derive energy from light, but its not via photosynthesis. Unlighted grows don't perform as well as those that recieve light

Mycelium doesn't need to be in the dark at any point.actually light is beneficial at every stage. There's no reason anything cubensis needs to ever be in the dark on purpose

Incubation in total darkness is 20 year old info.




Oh okay. I didn't take much consideration the pf tek was created in '97.

Say i'm forced to do an unlighted grow where i can only occasionally but in natural light. I'm planning on dunking the cakes as well. Would i get decent results?

This is my first attempt at growing and i was originally going to place the cakes outside in a bed, but i've recently decided to do it in doors with the top cut off of water gallons covered with seran wrap with perlite on the bottom.




What tek are you following?

You are obviously new to this.

What sort of information about a growing technique did you find that that said growing like this would be okay? Anything post 2000? 2005? 2010? I mean... anything?

If you can't use a proper chamber built to spec with the required variables and you don't have the required knowledge to do an experimental grow-why would you spend the time doing something that (I honestly believe) will be a failure?

I'm not trying to slow your roll or anything - but your roll seems terrible at best...

Look at my signature - look at the links that I have....

No one does what you talk about doing...

Do it right and you WILL have success...do it wrong and..well.. you'll have a shitty grow. :shrug:


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: morty422]
    #23729730 - 10/11/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

these fruited in the dark(accident)


after exposure to fruiting conditions it put out some(light and tons of FAE)


big difference with in the dark vs a few days in the light.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: mushboy]
    #23729739 - 10/11/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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mushboy said:
these fruited in the dark(accident)


after exposure to fruiting conditions it put out some(light and tons of FAE)


big difference with in the dark vs a few days in the light.




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Re: Growing in dark [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23729790 - 10/11/16 10:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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bodhisatta said:
They derive energy from light, but its not via photosynthesis. Unlighted grows don't perform as well as those that recieve light

Mycelium doesn't need to be in the dark at any point.actually light is beneficial at every stage. There's no reason anything cubensis needs to ever be in the dark on purpose

Incubation in total darkness is 20 year old info.



Funny story. My lab is without power and my jars seem to be colonizing faster than usual  :shrug:


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: azur]
    #23729812 - 10/11/16 10:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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azur said:
Quote:

bodhisatta said:
They derive energy from light, but its not via photosynthesis. Unlighted grows don't perform as well as those that recieve light

Mycelium doesn't need to be in the dark at any point.actually light is beneficial at every stage. There's no reason anything cubensis needs to ever be in the dark on purpose

Incubation in total darkness is 20 year old info.



Funny story. My lab is without power and my jars seem to be colonizing faster than usual  :shrug:




Grow all your jars in the dark... Obviously it's working out for you- if they are growing faster... :thumbup:


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: morty422]
    #23729816 - 10/11/16 10:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Well that's not enough to make a conclusion, but an experiment is clearly in the works


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: morty422]
    #23729872 - 10/11/16 11:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

Dmt_psilocybin said:
Quote:

bodhisatta said:
They derive energy from light, but its not via photosynthesis. Unlighted grows don't perform as well as those that recieve light

Mycelium doesn't need to be in the dark at any point.actually light is beneficial at every stage. There's no reason anything cubensis needs to ever be in the dark on purpose

Incubation in total darkness is 20 year old info.




Oh okay. I didn't take much consideration the pf tek was created in '97.

Say i'm forced to do an unlighted grow where i can only occasionally but in natural light. I'm planning on dunking the cakes as well. Would i get decent results?

This is my first attempt at growing and i was originally going to place the cakes outside in a bed, but i've recently decided to do it in doors with the top cut off of water gallons covered with seran wrap with perlite on the bottom.




What tek are you following?

You are obviously new to this.

What sort of information about a growing technique did you find that that said growing like this would be okay? Anything post 2000? 2005? 2010? I mean... anything?

If you can't use a proper chamber built to spec with the required variables and you don't have the required knowledge to do an experimental grow-why would you spend the time doing something that (I honestly believe) will be a failure?

I'm not trying to slow your roll or anything - but your roll seems terrible at best...

Look at my signature - look at the links that I have....

No one does what you talk about doing...

Do it right and you WILL have success...do it wrong and..well.. you'll have a shitty grow. :shrug:




I'm am new to growing as I stated it's my first one

As I stated pf tek

I have found quite a bit of information about fruiting in the dark, also quite a bit about not fruiting in the dark.

People do what I am talking about doing

Most edible mushrooms are grown without light. Not psilocybin, edible. However I've seen people say they have fruited in the dark

Because I don't have money and time to build a professional fruiting chamber built to spec.

You might ask why would you do this than?

Because other people have had results in the past. Commercial edible mushrooms are grown in complete darkness. However some people say what you are saying, which is my reason for creating this thread.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: mushboy]
    #23729881 - 10/11/16 11:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

mushboy said:
these fruited in the dark(accident)


after exposure to fruiting conditions it put out some(light and tons of FAE)


big difference with in the dark vs a few days in the light.




Is this the same flush? See I'm forced to have them in the dark most of the time. But I'm sure a few hours per day I can have them out in light. Personally how do you think that would turn out?


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23729889 - 10/11/16 11:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry man,

I maintain my position that a grow performed with respect to standardized practices will be more of a treat to you in regards to yield (and happiness).

If the money is not there yet (for even a SGFC) than you might need to wait a few moments. I know how it is-I've been there. It's best to wait and do it right than not wait and do it terribly! :shrug:


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: azur] * 1
    #23729919 - 10/11/16 11:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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azur said:
Quote:

bodhisatta said:
They derive energy from light, but its not via photosynthesis. Unlighted grows don't perform as well as those that recieve light

Mycelium doesn't need to be in the dark at any point.actually light is beneficial at every stage. There's no reason anything cubensis needs to ever be in the dark on purpose

Incubation in total darkness is 20 year old info.



Funny story. My lab is without power and my jars seem to be colonizing faster than usual  :shrug:




Its been shown a few times that fungo colonize and grow faster in a dark cycle opposed to the light cycle. But you can't have a dark cycle without a light cycle. An extended dark cycle will show great growth but will eventually wind down.

However a controlled experiment on this subject would be illuminating. I would watch with intrest.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: morty422]
    #23729941 - 10/11/16 11:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Sorry man,

I maintain my position that a grow performed with respect to standardized practices will be more of a treat to you in regards to yield (and happiness).

If the money is not there yet (for even a SGFC) than you might need to wait a few moments. I know how it is-I've been there. It's best to wait and do it right than not wait and do it terribly! :shrug:




This is only meant for a little personal grow as I become tiresome of hunting although it is fun.

definitely following specific standardized procedures will yield better, however I'm not looking for anything huge. Just some shrooms to have a good spiritual time with I am no mycologist. Investing money into something like this while worth it, I can't do it right now and don't see it in the future so I'm just trying for the best thing I can do at this moment.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23730130 - 10/12/16 02:10 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Doing it right is cheaper and easier than doing it wrong, if you have the humility to drop your assumptions

No one is forced to do anything, only limited by motivation and creativity (and sometimes ego).

In the age of Internet, LEDs, CFLs, and lithium ion/polymer batteries, there aren't really any valid excuses


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Re: Growing in dark *DELETED* [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #23730329 - 10/12/16 06:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Growing in dark [Re: amidogen]
    #23730347 - 10/12/16 07:07 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Dmt_psilocybin said:
Because I don't have money and time to build a professional fruiting chamber built to spec.




I call bullshit. You obviously haven't read any of the links Morty gave you or even a good PF tek writeup like EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes here on Shroomery. If you had, you'd know a "professional" fruiting chamber is an SGFC, which is a $5 clear 60+qt tote with 1/4" holes spaced 2" apart, drilled on all 6 sides, and filled with 3-4" of perlite. The perlite costs $5 at worst. If you're super cheap like me and don't own a drill, it takes time, but there are plenty if ways to make a hole in a plastic box with a knife or hot nail.

Tell me you've read what Morty told you to read. Tell me you're going to read this info I'm going to link you to:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=255&Number=19140341&fpart=1&PHPSESSID=

Specifically the PF tek writeups. Tell me you're serious about this and that your real reason for trying to grow in the dark isn't to hide it from your parents. Tell me you're going to put in the research (you clearly need to) and stop giving bullshit excuses like a $5 tote and $5 worth of perlite is too expensive. If you truly can't spare $10, you're not in a place where you can successfully commit this felony.




Let me make this clear
I have the funds available
I am not in a position to invest my time and money into that.I have college classes and books to pay for and I don't live with my fuckin parents thank you
I need a stealth grow for other personal reason that frankly isn't any of your business
All those fruiting chambers are too large for what I am needing


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #23730356 - 10/12/16 07:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

c10h12n2o said:
Doing it right is cheaper and easier than doing it wrong, if you have the humility to drop your assumptions

No one is forced to do anything, only limited by motivation and creativity (and sometimes ego).

In the age of Internet, LEDs, CFLs, and lithium ion/polymer batteries, there aren't really any valid excuses




I am forced to do this. I'm in college and can't have shrooms growing in he middle of a room I'm not going to explain why frankly it's none of your business
I pay for college classes and books and am in absolutely no position to invest my time or money in doing this professionally when the way I'm talking about has worked for the purposes I am talking about.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23730360 - 10/12/16 07:16 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If you live with the rents I would say hold off on cultivation. You wouldn't want them to find your grow and "help" you by calling the boys in blue.

Maybe Hunting would be a better fit for your current situation.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: The Mycologist]
    #23730361 - 10/12/16 07:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Oh, and I have multiple write ups of pf tek I've read that have given me information. That was not my purpose for making this thread


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: The Mycologist]
    #23730368 - 10/12/16 07:20 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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If you live with the rents I would say hold off on cultivation. You wouldn't want them to find your grow and "help" you by calling the boys in blue.

Maybe Hunting would be a better fit for your current situation.




Fuck it I'll just say it I live in a college dorm. It's pretty relaxed in terms of searching rooms which never happens. My mates all are into this as well so no problem there.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23730399 - 10/12/16 07:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not here to tell you what to do but that's as bad or worse than living with your parents. An RA will call the police, everyone in a dorm has a mouth, and colleges will expel you if your caught. The govmt will demand any loans or grants to be paid in full after being expelled.
Parents typically wouldn't ruin your life like that.
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Re: Growing in dark [Re: dnkronic]
    #23730421 - 10/12/16 08:00 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm not here to tell you what to do but that's as bad or worse than living with your parents. An RA will call the police, everyone in a dorm has a mouth, and colleges will expel you if your caught. The govmt will demand any loans or grants to be paid in full after being expelled.
Parents typically wouldn't ruin your life like that.
but it is your choice so please be wise about it.




It won't be growing in that dorm room I have another area for that. Which is why it would be in the dark most of the time, shit I wish I lived with my parents they wouldn't care


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    #23730426 - 10/12/16 08:04 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Growing in dark [Re: amidogen]
    #23730449 - 10/12/16 08:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

:whathesaid:

Just in time for the shitshow..

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Re: Growing in dark [Re: amidogen]
    #23730465 - 10/12/16 08:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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...you still don't get what all these people are telling you?

Growing in a dorm room is an awful idea. Why are you paying thousands of dollars to risk having your education rendered meaningless when your RA finds them (or your buddies have a friend over with a big mouth) and your life ruined when your college turns you over to the cops?

I don't get it. You say you want to grow. Then you say you don't want to put the 20 minutes of time or $10 of money into making even the most basic fruiting chamber. You want to grow in total darkness because you know you're fucked if they're found. So remind me why you think this is a good idea again?

Look, first time growers like you who even have a place of their own without an RA to worry about and try to do everything right are still happy as shit when they only get 3 dry grams off a single cake per flush. And that's when they build a proper SGFC and grow their shrooms with proper lighting. By the way, even if you build a proper SGFC it won't work in a small dark closet - the most important thing for growing is proper FAE, which you're simply not going to be able to provide.

So to sum it all up, yes, you could probably get away with colonizing your PF jars in your dark closet. After a month of worrying about a random search or one motivated by, say, some asshole who doesn't even live in your room getting caught with drugs and bringing a search down on the whole building, you're going to try some half-assed fruiting chamber in a small enclosed space without proper FAE needed for fruiting and with no light. How do you plan to provide any pinning triggers?

Better yet, have you really thought of the logistics of this? Let's say a moderate yield with a single PF cake fruited properly is 3 dry grams per flush. Assume you get two flushes before it goes green, so 6 g per cake. An average dose is around 3 g say. So you get two doses per cake. For all the risk you're exposing your entire life to, you want to get more than just 2 doses. And your friends are certainly going to want some since if you get caught they're fucked by association. So let's say you want 14 doses - 10 for you so you don't have to risk it anymore in a fucking dorm, and one for each of what I assume is 4 roomies or 2 each for 2 roomies. That's 7 cakes.

But that assumes all 7 get through 2 flushes without contamination. On your first grow I'd say you can count on at least 1 jar of every 5 going bad because come on, it's your first time. So now you need an extra 2 as a buffer, and if you're going to make 9 jars you may as well make 10.

But you're going to do it half-assed in a closet with no light and a bullshit fruiting chamber concoction. So I think you should be thrilled to get even a dry gram off a cake per flush. So now you need three cakes just to get a single dose. Do you see where this is going?

It sucks ass being in college and unable to grow the drugs your heart desires. You should wait until you have the proper living situation where you can provide proper conditions. Otherwise you're setting yourself up for failure and a distaste for this hobby, assuming you make it to the harvesting stage without getting caught and your life ruined.

...you're still set on telling is we're wrong and doing this as you described, aren't you?

Ok: everything I said still applies in terms of yield and logistics, but tell us, where's this safe dark place you're going to grow in?




The purpose of making this thread was to get more people's opinions on fungi fruiting in darkness. Not to get people playing mom and dad.
This is going to happen either way and when I have seen people do it this way before and than all of you bashing on me and telling me I'm wrong I don't know what I'm talking about and I shouldn't be growing. Who the fuck are any of you to tell me that?

Thank you to the people who aren't telling me what to do.

Again, not my question. Don't try to be my consciousness I've already debated whether or not I should do this, found a place and no everything I need to do from colonization to flushing.

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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23730475 - 10/12/16 08:26 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Well here.

Fruiting in the dark is shitty and shouldn't be done. Part of every tek is a 12/12 light cycle for fruiting.

We have your best interests in mind. I know mushrooms come from the ground so it seems like they wouldn't be that illegal. But shrooms are schedule 1, what you are doing is as illegal as cooking meth.

IMHO I say go hunting, or just get a part time job and buy them from a dealer because trying to grow in a dorm is too risky. The Cons outweigh the pros.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23730482 - 10/12/16 08:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

This community has been more than helpful and kind for absolutely everything else. Now apparently there's some sort of seniority going on about this one topic.

I don't know why any of you think I'm not capable of thinking for myself and have to gang up on me  and tell me no this isn't right
When COMMERCIAL EDIBLE MUSHROOMS ARE KEPT IN THE DARK MOST OF THE TIME

I understand that growing to your standards would yield better. I'm on a spiritual journey.

Again this is a personal grow I'm guessing a lot of you sell yours whether you admit it or not I don't really care.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: The Mycologist]
    #23730489 - 10/12/16 08:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Well here.

Fruiting in the dark is shitty and shouldn't be done. Part of every tek is a 12/12 light cycle for fruiting.

We have your best interests in mind. I know mushrooms come from the ground so it seems like they wouldn't be that illegal. But shrooms are schedule 1, what you are doing is as illegal as cooking meth.

IMHO I say go hunting, or just get a part time job and buy them from a dealer because trying to grow in a dorm is too risky. The Cons outweigh the pros.




Smoking weed is as illegal as doing meth also
Anyone who grows or hunts mushrooms are taking these risks anyways
I have been hunting for awhile
I am aware of federal and state laws and regulations.
I understand you have my best interests in mind, but I have my own consciousness and my own situation which I'm not going to talk about it detail

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    #23730511 - 10/12/16 08:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Neither smoking weed or doing meth is illegal, Having them in your pocket is. There is a big difference in the punishments between having a schedule one drug and creating more of it.

You can do whatever you want, but I can guarantee anytime some shroomers here about foolish stuff being done we feel a moral responsibility to say something.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23730528 - 10/12/16 08:46 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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COMMERCIAL EDIBLE MUSHROOMS ARE KEPT IN THE DARK MOST OF THE TIME




Source?

I've only ever seen shitty button mushrooms done in the dark.

Besides why correlate two entirely different things. Thats like throwing some weed and feed in your MJ plants because it worked well for your lawn and hey they're both plants

Advice here is free...
Also we know noobs are capable of using the search engine
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23717633
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    #23730587 - 10/12/16 09:10 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Never sold a drug in my life  :flipthebird:

You came here for advice. The fact that you got advice you don't want to hear doesn't make it bad. Maybe a lot of us have been college kids and had close calls with the kind of shit you're doing ruining our lives and we're trying to keep you from doing the same :shrug:

You need to stop with the "people grow commercial edibles in dark so it will work for cubes!" Those are completely different species, some of which don't just get grown in the dark because the growers are vampires, but because they require darkness. Cubes are not the same species and do Not require darkness. You're basically yelling "people raise rabbits by feeding them lettuce and hay all the time so why the fuck won't you people just tell me I can raise a tiger by feeding it the same diet!?"

You got your answer. It won't go well in the dark. It will go so poorly that you'll have to use at least 3 times as many cakes to get doses for your "spiritual journey" as you would if you did it properly. What's so hard to understand about that?

Come on, tell us where you're planning to grow these. You said it's not in your dorm room, but that it's a dark place away from it. Is it the basement of your dorm? An abandoned shack off campus that a homeless guy sometimes squats in? Ooh a rental storage shed? Come on I'm tired of guessing.

Do you want advice on how to not completely fuck this, or for us to instead say "yeah sounds great you're gonna be harvestin fruits in no time, carry on! :super:" when we know full well we'd be lying that your plan sounds like it will end in anything other than a contaminated mess?

If you're so set on growing in this place, tell us what sort of place it is and give us your actual game plan. You keep telling us how people do it all the time, so show us your tek or explain it in detail, from inoculation to substrate prep to colonization to fruiting.



See this is the type of reply i want.

Others were saying not to do it not giving me any advice.

its a closet type area and thats all i saying about it.
Im not going to find the specific link but theres threads about people putting cakes in 2 litler bottles, 7/11 cups, and everything in between. I figured a gallon water jug would be wide enough for the ones growing on the side. Shrooms are photo sensitive, right? would that be the reason they need light to just know which way is up?
ill be doing brf cakes with vermiculite growing golden teacher syringes, in 1/2 pint to 1 pint wide mouth jars. let it colonize, put perlite in the bottom of a gallon jug and cut the top off and place saran wrap over it. Ill probably be dunking them and than periodically misting inside the gallon to keep up the humidity.


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    #23730599 - 10/12/16 09:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I love how you know so much about how it's done but can't look up light amd cubes....

Do they need light to find their way up?
Well considering noobs grow in the dark and it works albeit poorly. They use gravity to find their way up I would say no the light is not for directions to the sky.

The caps tilt towards the light though

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/dosearch.php?where=body&tosearch=both&how=all&words=Light+energy&limit=25&forum=f2&showmain=1&expert=1&sort=r&way=d

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Re: Growing in dark [Re: The Mycologist]
    #23730608 - 10/12/16 09:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Neither smoking weed or doing meth is illegal, Having them in your pocket is. There is a big difference in the punishments between having a schedule one drug and creating more of it.

You can do whatever you want, but I can guarantee anytime some shroomers here about foolish stuff being done we feel a moral responsibility to say something.




So your telling me if a cop walked up on you smoking a joint or hitting a crack pipe you wouldn't be charged with possession?

Your not the one thats bothering me you are helpful and looking out some of those other people are just bashing on me and telling me not to do this.

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Re: Growing in dark [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23730618 - 10/12/16 09:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I love how you know so much about how it's done but can't look up light amd cubes....

Do they need light to find their way up?
Well considering noobs grow in the dark and it works albeit poorly. They use gravity to find their way up I would say no the light is not for directions to the sky.

The caps tilt towards the light though

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/dosearch.php?where=body&tosearch=both&how=all&words=Light+energy&limit=25&forum=f2&showmain=1&expert=1&sort=r&way=d

Difficulty level 4th grade




I have looked up light and cubensis no need to be condescending dick.

The reason for creating it was to get more people opinions about growing in the dark. It seems to be a relatively debated thing.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23730621 - 10/12/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It's really not. Show me where this is a debated topic in the last three years


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23730632 - 10/12/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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It's really not. Show me where this is a debated topic in the last three years


:standingby:



https://www.shroomology.org/forums/topic/10181-about-light-what-are-your-thoughts/
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12405026

Just a couple i could find real quick.
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    #23730645 - 10/12/16 09:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Holy shit....

That sounds terrible. Why would you do that to your mushrooms?

Ok, first off, how are you planning to prep your substrate? Do you have access to a place you can put together your BRF jars and steam sterilize for 90-120 minutes without people asking what in the fuck you're doing?

Your fruiting chamber sounds truly awful. Sure, you can do bottle grows, but pick something like the big gulp tek and then actually follow it. Namely by not growing in a closet.

Putting perlite in the bottom of a gallon milk jug, then putting in your cakes and covering with Saran Wrap will a) be a useless waste of perlite. We use it in SGFC's to help cycle air through the bottom holes. Your proposed design won't have this. B) suffocate the fuck out of your shrooms. We've been telling you FAE is the most important thing, and continuous passive FAE at that. What if you could only breathe during the time period you pull the Saran Wrap off your contraption? You'd die, just like your shrooms will.

Furthermore, you're basically planning to do all this in a shitty, hidden away, likely moldy closet. You're going to want an SAB to inoculate in.

I'm running out of ways to tell you how many different ways you're setting yourself up for failure...if you want a single dose out of this you need to find a recent (<3 years old) tek and follow it. You've never grown before and it's clear from your proposed fruiting chamber you don't know what mushrooms need. Please stop getting in the way of your own success by following a tek to the T and being prepared for it to go terribly when you try to do all of this in a hidden, sketchy dark closet.

And stop it with the hurt feelings shit. You're on a website where adults help each other grow felonies. Wouldn't you feel a little fucking ridiculous asking the dude who's showing you how to steal cars to be nicer to you since you're new to this whole carjacking thing? Whether you want to realize it or not, you're committing crimes of the same caliber here as far as the law is concerned. You're insisting on growing shrooms in a shitty way on a forum where we work to grow them in the best way. Get the fuck over having people treat you the way you're planning to treat your mushrooms.

Do yourself a favor and read up on the difference between being charged with possession vs being charged with manufacturing a controlled substance.

If this topic was debated, how come you're the only one in here saying it will work?




There would be holes in it with continuous air flow\

Yeah i have access to a Pressure cooker

I know manufacturing a fucking substance, having it in possession, and selling it are different things.

Im not getting butthurt about this. the fucking people it's so damn annoying i dont need people to think for me and tell me not to do this because of the situation.
Not asking to be treated nicer i can hold my own, anyone telling me i can't do this because i live in a dorm can fuck off and their wasting their time.


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    #23730657 - 10/12/16 09:40 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If you don't need anyone to think for you then why are you here?


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    #23730659 - 10/12/16 09:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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If you don't need anyone to think for you then why are you here?




To find out about fungus growing in darkness. Not have people tell me i shouldnt because im in a dorm and dont have the funds. thats not your problem.


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    #23730673 - 10/12/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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    #23730686 - 10/12/16 09:53 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

We keep telling you tho. No one forced you to share the other info, but if you share it we will comment on it.

If you don't want to believe all of the people here then just do an experiment and prove us wrong.

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    #23730692 - 10/12/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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You did learn. People told you it doesn't work well and that you'll get a shitty harvest if any harvest at all. The fact that you continue to ignore this is on you.

Ok, then we'll tell you that you can't do this because you want to do it in a sketchy closet.

Whatever. I'm not sure what you really want here. You asked about growing the dark. People told you it's shit. You :meltdown:

You insist they do well in the dark, along with other species. People tell you no and to do research. You :meltdown:

People tell you to wait until you have a real viable place to grow in proper conditions, both to avoid getting caught and ruining your life, and to avoid getting a 0 gram harvest. You insist you've got this perfect closet. But if you can't grow them in the open, then it must be in a place where you're not the only one with access. People tell you it's a bad idea. You :meltdown:

You say you've got examples of people doing what you want and being successful, but are too lazy to find it on the search engine. You say you're going to invent your own fruiting chamber out of your abundance of growing experience, understanding of cube needs, and other noob knowledge. People tell you to just stick to the fucking tek. You :meltdown:

Do you really just want someone to say it's all gonna be great using your plan? I think that's what you're actually looking for, because you're definitely not looking for real, sound advice based on experience, knowledge of the species, and good ideas for not ending up in prison. So here ya go:

Awesome plan man! :thumbup: I think your fruiting chamber will work excellently and provide your fruits with everything they need. You'll be in your spiritual journey in no time. Dark isn't ideal, but I'm sure you'll find a way to scrape up all the fruits you need growing in a milk bottle with Saran Wrap in a closet that other people can find. I think I might just try it myself! We can compare notes as it progresses. Just stick to your guns and you'll have fruits in no time :aweyeah:

Better?




Not really looking for any of that actually, i wasnt even planning to explain my tek before making this thread.

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    #23730696 - 10/12/16 09:56 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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We keep telling you tho. No one forced you to share the other info, but if you share it we will comment on it.

If you don't want to believe all of the people here then just do an experiment and prove us wrong.

Post a grow log, Darkness Tek, you could be a pioneer for vampire mush cultivation.




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    #23730716 - 10/12/16 10:10 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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these fruited in the dark(accident)


after exposure to fruiting conditions it put out some(light and tons of FAE)


big difference with in the dark vs a few days in the light.



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    #23730724 - 10/12/16 10:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Please tell the homeless guy, who finds your shit in your hidden off-dorm closet and then extorts you to take him to the ATM and empty your bank account into his hands or else he'll show your shit that he's hidden to the cops, to take a video of the whole thing, particularly your face when you hit the "I told you so" moment. You're not going to have a flush you want to post on here that won't get you ridiculed with your plan (assuming every planet between here and the galactic bulge aligns and you get a single fruit at all), so I'd like you to have a backup plan for something to upload. :rofl:

Ok, all bullshitery and shit-giving aside now...

Good luck, I hope you find whatever you think you're looking for, and be careful out there. Do your best not to get killed, blackmailed, or arrested. Your plan makes all of these much more likely than I think you realize.




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    #23730731 - 10/12/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

cant have firearms in the dorms :tmckenna:


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Quote:

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these fruited in the dark(accident)


after exposure to fruiting conditions it put out some(light and tons of FAE)


big difference with in the dark vs a few days in the light.



This really says it all




https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12405026

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    #23730741 - 10/12/16 10:16 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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cant have firearms in the dorms :tmckenna:




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    #23730748 - 10/12/16 10:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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these fruited in the dark(accident)


after exposure to fruiting conditions it put out some(light and tons of FAE)


big difference with in the dark vs a few days in the light.



This really says it all




https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12405026

Look at the comparison on this thread.



So you are quoting the OP that got shit on 6 years ago because he was quoting outdated false information as fact?

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Re: Growing in dark [Re: SloppyJoseph]
    #23730752 - 10/12/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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these fruited in the dark(accident)


after exposure to fruiting conditions it put out some(light and tons of FAE)


big difference with in the dark vs a few days in the light.



This really says it all




https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12405026

Look at the comparison on this thread.



So you are quoting the OP that got shit on 6 years ago because he was quoting outdated false information as fact?

Good point.




(sigh) I'm telling you to look at pictures another user posted fruiting some in light and fruiting in the dark


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: amidogen]
    #23730757 - 10/12/16 10:22 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Oh man, your idea to add having to cover up a dead body with a bullet hole traceable to your gun to your felony manufacturing of a controlled substance has me so convinced we won't read about you in the news...




If he's dead how would that apply? i wouldn't hide the body, i would than call police and let him know a homeless man was trying to rob me and had a knife or something and now i shot him dead


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: amidogen]
    #23730762 - 10/12/16 10:22 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Task at hand guys... we all know why his stupid closet growing idea in a dorm or wherever he is won't work. He can't swing for a simple 6500k CFL in his closet because he's afraid someone will catch him. That would make this a non discussion because that's all he needs. But we all know this here, he just doesn't.

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Re: Growing in dark [Re: SloppyJoseph]
    #23730764 - 10/12/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Plus, hiding a body wouldnt be that hard


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: SloppyJoseph]
    #23730766 - 10/12/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Task at hand guys... we all know why his stupid closet growing idea in a dorm or wherever he is won't work. He can't swing for a simple 6500k CFL in his closet because he's afraid someone will catch him. That would make this a non discussion because that's all he needs. But we all know this here, he just doesn't.

Now I'm about slaying this noob for quoting 6 year old falsehoods, quoting 15 year old retardedness.




I can't afford that.
I am not quoting the OP im quoting the person that posted the photos of a comparison of fruiting in the dark vs dark and light.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23730774 - 10/12/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Even so the pinset that looks so great on the unlighted side, the steps look skinny and weak. They would dry to toothpicks, I bet the side that used light would get a better yield with half the shrooms to speak for.

If you can't afford a lightbulb that's pretty sad.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: SloppyJoseph]
    #23730780 - 10/12/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Even so the pinset that looks so great on the unlighted side, the steps look skinny and weak. They would dry to toothpicks, I bet the side that used light would get a better yield with half the shrooms to speak for.

If you can't afford a lightbulb that's pretty sad.




Wouldnt i need more than just the light bulb and lamp? if not that pretty much solves my problem


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23730789 - 10/12/16 10:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Nah man literally 1 light in a closet will do fine. The closet will severely limit FAE, but if you are set on using it as your fruiting space, its better than a lack of FAE and no light :lol:

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Re: Growing in dark [Re: SloppyJoseph]
    #23730798 - 10/12/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Nah man literally 1 light in a closet will do fine. The closet will severely limit FAE, but if you are set on using it as your fruiting space, its better than a lack of FAE and no light :lol:

Just use a lamp and a 60W equivalent light rated for 6500k daylight spectrum




Seriously? people make it seem so much more difficult. I can have a fan circulating through the closet most of the time if that would help FAE.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: amidogen]
    #23730803 - 10/12/16 10:39 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Uh huh...

So with a screaming (or dead) homeless man, you'll suppress your adrenaline and successfully hide the evidence of your growing without anyone else calling the cops first because of the fucking gun shots. You'll then have a bulletproof story for the cops of why you're in this secluded place in the first place. Being a college kid, they totally won't correctly assume you're doing drugs and search the shit out of it, quickly finding your hastily hidden felony grow lab. And if the homeless guy isn't dead he totally won't tell the cops he found your lab and that you shot him, adding a guns+drug charge that carries mandatory minimum sentence and federal charges.

Oh, and since he's a homeless guy, if you do kill him, they totally won't bring a fucking crime scene team in to investigate the entire area, not to mention interrogate the fuck out of you.

But nah, what was I saying, I'm now convinced you have this covered.

And :whathesaid: just use your damn closet, with even a single bulb, and make a fruiting chamber from a current tek to the T.

Have you heard of a word called opsec?




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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23730812 - 10/12/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Back to the fruiting chamber, how do you think a water gallon each with one cake and 1/8 drill bit holes work?


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: amidogen]
    #23730815 - 10/12/16 10:44 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

dude you are a fucking idiot. literally, one of the most arrogant, obnoxious posters i have seen on here in a long time. you are gonna end up in prison the way you are acting/thinking

do you realize how silly you sound criticizing the way people give you advice? and talking about "your tek" and asking for "opinions" that confirm your assumptions when facts are available that should put them to bed?

its unbelievable listening to you talk down to some of the best advice you will ever get, from the most experienced users

people like you are the reason why America scores lowest on standardized tests out of developed nations, and why those same people score the highest for "how well do you think you did on the test?"

if you posses the humility to drop your assumptions and learn something, you have a golden opportunity

most of us are here and not in prison because we have NEVER sold any drugs to anyone, and have never given anyone a way to make it our ass instead of their ass when they get in trouble.

my first grow was a little PMP that i wired into the wall of my RA in my dorm after a drug search (installed it into their wall with the insulation), but ive damn sure learned a lot since then, and you would do well to benefit from what others have already figured out

quit getting so upset about people giving you good advice, and stop taking things personal, no one wants to see your ass on the news bringing more attention to our hobby, and "all my mates are cool with it" are famous last words before the door gets kicked in

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Re: Growing in dark [Re: amidogen]
    #23730820 - 10/12/16 10:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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When did we make it seem difficult? Seriously, I use one 6500 K CFL on a lamp set right up against my SGFC. We made growing in the dark sound difficult, and you never asked about growing with light :lol:

Ok though, now I'm beyond curious. This place is secluded so you won't be caught on campus, but too public to grow in the open, yet it has power. Where the fuck are you planning this? We don't go to your college and you've already told us you want to manufacture a controlled substance - telling us what this place is gives you no more risk than just following your plan does.

Opsec is operational security, i.e., the steps you take to keep from being found and arrested.




it's so hard to explain. its almost like  shed with power but it isn't a shed at all and it's not in my dorm room it's just off campus.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23730834 - 10/12/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

An abandoned shed outside of campus? Really? :facepalm: that's so stupid it isn't even funny. If you know about it, how many others know about it?

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Re: Growing in dark [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #23730840 - 10/12/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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dude you are a fucking idiot. literally, one of the most arrogant, obnoxious posters i have seen on here in a long time. you are gonna end up in prison the way you are acting/thinking

do you realize how silly you sound criticizing the way people give you advice? and talking about "your tek" and asking for "opinions" that confirm your assumptions when facts are available that should put them to bed?

its unbelievable listening to you talk down to some of the best advice you will ever get, from the most experienced users

people like you are the reason why America scores lowest on standardized tests out of developed nations, and why those same people score the highest for "how well do you think you did on the test?"

if you posses the humility to drop your assumptions and learn something, you have a golden opportunity

most of us are here and not in prison because we have NEVER sold any drugs to anyone, and have never given anyone a way to make it our ass instead of their ass when they get in trouble.

my first grow was a little PMP that i wired into the wall of my RA in my dorm after a drug search (installed it into their wall with the insulation), but ive damn sure learned a lot since then, and you would do well to benefit from what others have already figured out

quit getting so upset about people giving you good advice, and stop taking things personal, no one wants to see your ass on the news bringing more attention to our hobby, and "all my mates are cool with it" are famous last words before the door gets kicked in

unless you are absolutely, unsalvageably idiotic, quit spouting nonsense and learn something. otherwise get used to being made fun of, and everyone thinking you have down syndrome or something




An idiot who is majoring in biology with a 3.8 GPA graduating this year from than on going to dental school, right? So, people like me are the reason america scores the lowest on standardized tests? ok.
I apologize for the previous posts. When people try to tell me not to do something because of this situation am i supposed to just be like oh ok and stop like i don't think for myself?

America scores the lowest on standardized tests because of comon core instituted by socialist liberals.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Mad Season]
    #23730844 - 10/12/16 10:51 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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An abandoned shed outside of campus? Really? :facepalm: that's so stupid it isn't even funny. If you know about it, how many others know about it?

Just go find a forest, and plant them under a tree. Done.




It isnt a shed or anything abandoned. Just a secluded place that no one that lives around the area (they've moved to other states) knows about. Idk how else to explain it other than that


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23730851 - 10/12/16 10:54 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

So wait you're actually going to dentistry, and you're going to risk it all with this? You can't like wait the extra few years til graduation? Common sense dude. Book smarts isn't everything.

It's your freedom. Totally up to you to fuck it up. Mushrooms will grow much better with light. Answers been answered. Let's all end this shit show.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Mad Season]
    #23730859 - 10/12/16 10:55 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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So wait you're actually going to dentistry, and you're going to risk it all with this? You can't like wait the extra few years til graduation? Common sense dude. Book smarts isn't everything.




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    #23730880 - 10/12/16 11:02 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If you are smart, and probably done chem, make your own psilocin :shrug: Tho with the precursor, 4-aco-dmt, you might as well just eat that lol. Isn't 4-aco-dmt legal too?


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    #23730883 - 10/12/16 11:02 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

i certainly dont like the dept of education, we should flat out abolish it (im one of those crazy libertarian Ron Paul & Milo Yiannopolous fans)

but really, the fact that you would feel the need to brag about your gpa on a thread where you are proving yourself to be an idiot who's idea of "thinking for themselves" is really just "thinking they are smart" is case in point

smart people take advice well, they dont take criticism as a personal attack, they think critically, and they respect and listen to people more experienced. if you are half as smart as you think you are you should give it a try

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Re: Growing in dark [Re: amidogen]
    #23730889 - 10/12/16 11:04 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Ok, here's the problem (forgetting all the problems with your "tek", which no, would not work well at all for a fruiting chamber)

This building had power. This means someone other than you owns it, and pays for power to go into it. Even if it's an old maintenance shed or some shit, eventually someone will check in on it and notice that someone has been doing something in there. They'll find your shit, call the cops, and that's it. Game over for you forever. No job other than flipping burgers, no voting, your guns taken away. The end.

Not to mention whoever owns it should know exactly how much power it should pull in electricity for whatever they use it for. Although small, your extra use will show up, and they're going to want to know why they're suddenly paying more for electricity.

My buddy C10 up there was harsh but right. The more you describe in detail your plan, the more we hear someone who's trying really hard to ruin their fucking life. Then when a prosecutor has you bent over a barrel and you'll do anything to try to convince him to bring lesser charges or recommend a smaller sentence, he asks where you learned to grow and got your supplies and you tell him you learned here and got your supplies from vendor X. People who are regulars here actually love this place and the hobby. Don't fuck it up for the rest of us with your bad idea.

I think the reason we've had to get specifics of your plan out of you like pulling teeth is you know full well how dangerous and bad of an idea it is, and you think if we don't know and shit all over it and reinforce how bad of am idea it is, that you can keep telling yourself you have your own "consciousness" and that you've decided as an adult that this decision which will ruin your life won't do exactly that.

When are you gonna get it that you need to wait? All of that hard work is gone forever the instant you're caught, and you WILL get caught.




The power is hooked up to a campsite electrical unit and cannabis has been dried, germinated, and sprouted here after growing,  all im gonna say about that.

Anyways it is a fine secluded place

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Re: Growing in dark [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #23730898 - 10/12/16 11:07 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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i certainly dont like the dept of education, we should flat out abolish it (im one of those crazy libertarian Ron Paul & Milo Yiannopolous fans)

but really, the fact that you would feel the need to brag about your gpa on a thread where you are proving yourself to be an idiot who's idea of "thinking for themselves" is really just "thinking they are smart" is case in point

smart people take advice well, they dont take criticism as a personal attack, they think critically, and they respect and listen to people more experienced. if you are half as smart as you think you are you should give it a try

if you keep ignoring the basic principles people are telling you, dont be surprised when people start to think you sound more and more ridiculous

i will tell you like my grandfather told me: "you open your mouth and you remove all doubt"




not bragging about anything, just saying why i am not stupid.
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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Mad Season]
    #23730903 - 10/12/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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If you are smart, and probably done chem, make your own psilocin :shrug: Tho with the precursor, 4-aco-dmt, you might as well just eat that lol. Isn't 4-aco-dmt legal too?




I absolutely hate math and chemistry. But yes i have done it and passed with a good grade taking chem 1 and chem 2 but it was hard as fuck. synthesizing dmt and psilocin is extremely difficult at least for me.
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    #23730920 - 10/12/16 11:16 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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i certainly dont like the dept of education, we should flat out abolish it (im one of those crazy libertarian Ron Paul & Milo Yiannopolous fans)

but really, the fact that you would feel the need to brag about your gpa on a thread where you are proving yourself to be an idiot who's idea of "thinking for themselves" is really just "thinking they are smart" is case in point

smart people take advice well, they dont take criticism as a personal attack, they think critically, and they respect and listen to people more experienced. if you are half as smart as you think you are you should give it a try

if you keep ignoring the basic principles people are telling you, dont be surprised when people start to think you sound more and more ridiculous

i will tell you like my grandfather told me: "you open your mouth and you remove all doubt"




I apologize for being so stubborn as i was dead set on it. But yes im fans of libertarians as well and am extremely conservative.
I was getting annoyed at people telling me not to do something when i haven't explained the whole situation.
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    #23730927 - 10/12/16 11:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

if making a proper fruiting chamber, even an SGFC is too time and money intensive for you, i dont even know why you are still considering growing, nor do i know how your lazy ass could pass any college class

quit making excuses to go to prison over a shitty grow

you might be able to convince yourself of how smart you think you are, but you are wasting your time telling anyone that here. people will either think you are lying or just think you are silly for thinking bragging about your gpa would change anyone's impression of you when you cant even listen and understand basic principles because your assumptions are just too big a barrier

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    #23730931 - 10/12/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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c10h12n2o said:
i certainly dont like the dept of education, we should flat out abolish it (im one of those crazy libertarian Ron Paul & Milo Yiannopolous fans)

but really, the fact that you would feel the need to brag about your gpa on a thread where you are proving yourself to be an idiot who's idea of "thinking for themselves" is really just "thinking they are smart" is case in point

smart people take advice well, they dont take criticism as a personal attack, they think critically, and they respect and listen to people more experienced. if you are half as smart as you think you are you should give it a try

if you keep ignoring the basic principles people are telling you, dont be surprised when people start to think you sound more and more ridiculous

i will tell you like my grandfather told me: "you open your mouth and you remove all doubt"




I apologize for being so stubborn as i was dead set on it. But yes im fans of libertarians as well and am extremely conservative.
I was getting annoyed at people telling me not to do something when i haven't explained the whole situation.
I should've listened more and i was wrong.




this is the smartest thing you have said in this thread, and is a mature attitude to take. if you approach the hobby this way, you will be impressing us all one day

no need to explain the situation any further in those respects, just hear what we are saying and take it into consideration. there is no detail that will change anything we are saying

hide a monotub or an otto bucket somewhere if you are gonna do it! and have great success with your first harvests, and then experiment after you have some success. and if you share them with anyone (DO NOT SELL THEM) tell them you bought them from some hippy at a festival or something. it is tempting to try to impress people with your giant fungal cocks (trust us, we know), but the only logical approach is misdirection

hell, if you actually want to grow now or in the future, i would tell the people that knew i was thinking about growing "fungus is gross, plus growing mushrooms is really complicated and difficult and i dont think its something i could figure out"

but dont put it somewhere you dont have COMPLETE control over. i fucked up and did that on my first 4 grows, and all 4 had more bullshit problems than the trouble was worth

dont grow unless NO ONE thinks you are growing. if you actually want to do this, first step is convincing everyone you told about it that you changed your mind and would never grow mushrooms and fungus is gross


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    #23730933 - 10/12/16 11:20 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Following the tek to a T means building the fruiting chamber to a T as well.

And excellent. Your plan is to use a location frequented by others for growing drugs and probably already known (and if not I'm sure it will be soon) to LE as a site for growing drugs.

Do you fucking hear yourself?! I was amused before but I'm getting angry now. Do you know how many people have never had the chance to go to college and go to dentistry school and give their families the kind of life you'll be able to give yours if you finish? And you want to risk all that by doing the SINGLE most dumbshit idea for a grow technique and location since the dude who tried growing a cake next to a waterfall at an illegal dump site to get "a source of ionized FAE"? What in the fuck is wrong with you?

What in your brain isn't making the connection that if all these people with experience growing shrooms and not getting caught are telling you that it's awful idea and you'll get caught, that you should take their advice and wait instead of fuck up your life? Why in the fuck do you think that you, no grows under your belt, no experience with this, know better and can tell us that you've really got a plan that won't land you in prison and that we're idiots for thinking it will?




I didn't say you were idiots i just admitted i should've listened and i admit i was wrong.
It was used for that about 6 years ago. We found the area as kids and it hasnt changed since.
That aside, i don't understand the shotgun fruiting chamber.
Oh and everyone has that opportunity. I dropped out of high school at 16 because i was addicted to opiates benzos and barbituates. i got my GED at 16 got a part time job as a shift lead saved up a shit ton of money and now im here


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    #23730936 - 10/12/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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if making a proper fruiting chamber, even an SGFC is too time and money intensive for you, i dont even know why you are still considering growing, nor do i know how your lazy ass could pass any college class

quit making excuses to go to prison over a shitty grow

you might be able to convince yourself of how smart you think you are, but you are wasting your time telling anyone that here. people will either think you are lying or just think you are silly for thinking bragging about your gpa would change anyone's impression of you when you cant even listen and understand basic principles because your assumptions are just too big a barrier

three people can keep a secret if 2 are dead. thats it. if literally ANYONE knows you are even thinking about growing, they already have you on a list of people to roll over on when they get in trouble



No one knows about the growing not one soul and the kids i found it with man many years ago are long gone. I have a strict budget right now for money.

What i am now realizing is a SGFC is not as expensive or time consuming as i thought. However i don't completely understand it.


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    #23730940 - 10/12/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Man this thread delivers it all. Poorly conceived fruiting chamber, no light, sheds and closets, stealth, a dentist who has enough myco know how to just write teks off the cuff. I was entertained. Bravo.

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    #23730945 - 10/12/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I understand it doesn't seem like a good place to be growing. But if i could explain it better and im not sure how and any of you were in my position i sure you would use it. I used to grow weed sell weed sell pills whatever and never got caught. I understand the ways to be smart about things like this and not be caught.


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    #23730948 - 10/12/16 11:26 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Man this thread delivers it all. Poorly conceived fruiting chamber, no light, sheds and closets, stealth, a dentist who has enough myco know how to just write teks off the cuff. I was entertained. Bravo.

:jokerclap:




I wasn't trying to write a tek. That was the idea i had for a fruiting chamber and apparently it wont work i understand that now but, could someone please explain why?


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    #23730952 - 10/12/16 11:29 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542#20195542

SGFC explained. Tho do note he doesn't have it completely accurate, the heat difference is what makes the evaporation occur, bringing humid air up, and that in turn brings in more air. But everything else is spot on.


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    #23730956 - 10/12/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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this is the smartest thing you have said in this thread, and is a mature attitude to take. if you approach the hobby this way, you will be impressing us all one day



:whathesaid:

You're taking this as us being dicks, but it's actually blunt, honest advice from people who don't want to see someone throw their life away. When you've got a place of your own that you can safely grow inside of, come back and this place will still be here to help you get what you want. Whether they'll help you on your spiritual journey is up for you to decide, but we can at least help you grow them properly when we're not putting all of our effort into keeping you out of prison.

An SGFC is the ultimate passive FAE machine. The wet perlite wicks air in through the bottom holes, and natural air currents in the room move through the other holes and continuously change the air in the chamber. This helps evaporate the water you mist onto the fruits and serves as the ultimate pinning trigger.

You're still going to have a hard time convincing us to help you until you tell us you're dumping the shed idea until you have a place of your own. Sorry, but your drug growing/selling experience doesn't convince me that it's not as bad of an idea as we all said it was :shrug:




Need be i can grow them at my cousins place thats about 10 minutes away that i go to pretty often. To me i just feel like the other idea of the other place i had would be better but i could do this.
i wouldn't do it at a friends house, but he is my first cousin.
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    #23730964 - 10/12/16 11:32 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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    #23730972 - 10/12/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Just grow stones dood



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    #23730973 - 10/12/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542#20195542

SGFC explained. Tho do note he doesn't have it completely accurate, the heat difference is what makes the evaporation occur, bringing humid air up, and that in turn brings in more air. But everything else is spot on.




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    #23730974 - 10/12/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Just grow stones dood



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    #23730984 - 10/12/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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amidogen said:
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c10h12n2o said:
this is the smartest thing you have said in this thread, and is a mature attitude to take. if you approach the hobby this way, you will be impressing us all one day



:whathesaid:

You're taking this as us being dicks, but it's actually blunt, honest advice from people who don't want to see someone throw their life away. When you've got a place of your own that you can safely grow inside of, come back and this place will still be here to help you get what you want. Whether they'll help you on your spiritual journey is up for you to decide, but we can at least help you grow them properly when we're not putting all of our effort into keeping you out of prison.

An SGFC is the ultimate passive FAE machine. The wet perlite wicks air in through the bottom holes, and natural air currents in the room move through the other holes and continuously change the air in the chamber. This helps evaporate the water you mist onto the fruits and serves as the ultimate pinning trigger.

You're still going to have a hard time convincing us to help you until you tell us you're dumping the shed idea until you have a place of your own. Sorry, but your drug growing/selling experience doesn't convince me that it's not as bad of an idea as we all said it was :shrug:




Need be i can grow them at my cousins place thats about 10 minutes away that i go to pretty often. To me i just feel like the other idea of the other place i had would be better but i could do this.
i wouldn't do it at a friends house, but he is my first cousin.
It will still be in a closet though.



Nah you don't get it still. Mushrooms don't just grow without a little attention from a first timer. Experts have trouble with the set and forget method sometimes. It takes practice and experience dialing in a fruiting chamber to be able to do this. Unless you want to go over to your cousins house every day and night during fruiting to make sure its ok, you'll have to have him do all the work for you. And assume all the risk of growing felonies. Not very cousin-like.


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    #23730994 - 10/12/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Just grow stones dood



I feel retarded asking this question, but what is that :shrug:




Grow sclerotia. AKA stones. AKA Magic truffles.

You inoculate grains, and once they are colonized, you let them sit for 3-6 months and then open up the grain jars to find tens of hundreds of truffles have grown. You eat those and trip as hard if not harder than with cubes.



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    #23731003 - 10/12/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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this is the smartest thing you have said in this thread, and is a mature attitude to take. if you approach the hobby this way, you will be impressing us all one day



:whathesaid:

You're taking this as us being dicks, but it's actually blunt, honest advice from people who don't want to see someone throw their life away. When you've got a place of your own that you can safely grow inside of, come back and this place will still be here to help you get what you want. Whether they'll help you on your spiritual journey is up for you to decide, but we can at least help you grow them properly when we're not putting all of our effort into keeping you out of prison.

An SGFC is the ultimate passive FAE machine. The wet perlite wicks air in through the bottom holes, and natural air currents in the room move through the other holes and continuously change the air in the chamber. This helps evaporate the water you mist onto the fruits and serves as the ultimate pinning trigger.

You're still going to have a hard time convincing us to help you until you tell us you're dumping the shed idea until you have a place of your own. Sorry, but your drug growing/selling experience doesn't convince me that it's not as bad of an idea as we all said it was :shrug:




Need be i can grow them at my cousins place thats about 10 minutes away that i go to pretty often. To me i just feel like the other idea of the other place i had would be better but i could do this.
i wouldn't do it at a friends house, but he is my first cousin.
It will still be in a closet though.



Nah you don't get it still. Mushrooms don't just grow without a little attention from a first timer. Experts have trouble with the set and forget method sometimes. It takes practice and experience dialing in a fruiting chamber to be able to do this. Unless you want to go over to your cousins house every day and night during fruiting to make sure its ok, you'll have to have him do all the work for you. And assume all the risk of growing felonies. Not very cousin-like.



I go there every single day though, and can check in whenever i need to. He would help me with this we've grown weed together and were pretty close.


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    #23731007 - 10/12/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Philosopher+stones



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azur said:
Just grow stones dood



I feel retarded asking this question, but what is that :shrug:




Grow sclerotia. AKA stones. AKA Magic truffles.

You inoculate grains, and once they are colonized, you let them sit for 3-6 months and then open up the grain jars to find tens of hundreds of truffles have grown. You eat those and trip as hard if not harder than with cubes.





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    #23731019 - 10/12/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah it's looking like your best option, it's the ultimate way of growing your drugs stealth. Cause if anyone saw it they'd have no idea what they were looking at.


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Unless they're a true myconaut


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    #23731051 - 10/12/16 11:56 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542#20195542

SGFC explained. Tho do note he doesn't have it completely accurate, the heat difference is what makes the evaporation occur, bringing humid air up, and that in turn brings in more air. But everything else is spot on.



Thanks for clearing that up :grin:

If you trust your cousin enough to bet your whole life on it, then yes, do that over this shed. If you don't trust your cousin this much, wait til you have a place of your own.

And agreed on the stones. You'll have to order a spore syringe of a sclerotia-producing species, as your golden teacher syringe won't do this. But they are something you could grow without ever having to actually fruit. I'd still try to not keep them in total darkness their entire life.




Alright ill have to do that than, and yeah i trust my cousin more than anyone. Ill have to try the truffles too.

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    #23731686 - 10/12/16 04:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

i dont know why it took us 5 pages to mention stones in a thread about growing in the dark, totally slipped my mind, but they are perfectly suited for stealth of this sort

they are sold as little kits all over the world in coffee shops. its really cool because (as mentioned) most people wouldnt know what it was if they saw it

at the same time i built that little FC into my RAs dorm wall, i also did a bunch of stones at my friends house, with much better luck. looking back on it, it was dumb as fuck, and i would never do a grow where i didnt have full control over the location again

i had bad luck with stones for a while, because my grain prep was sloppy, but once i got that dialed in it couldnt be easier

my original plan my first grow was to spend all my spare time making truffle jars and just save up a bunch, and also make pickles at the same time, and tell everyone i was always making pickles

a monotub is very much set-and-forget, if you follow most teks. it can be as simple or as complicated as you want to make it. i have started using micropore tape like pasty instead of polyfill, and running it with the lid off while i am home like bodhi, with killer results. But you could just fruit at spawning, like azure, and it doesnt get any easier than that. that is actually how i did it before i knew how: i just mixed grainspawn with compost and verm and coir, put it in a liner inside a monotub, and packed the holes with polyfill, then i left town for 2 weeks to a month and came back and harvested, total neglect tek. at the time it was just pure sloppiness though, i didnt realize that i needed to have it taped during the bulk colonization (spawning, colonizing, then fruiting, as opposed to inducing fruiting conditions at spawning)


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #23731759 - 10/12/16 04:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Because most the guys here would rather flame than help in this game.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #23731793 - 10/12/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Overgeneralized but yeah I don't understand how I came in after 4 pages and the guy wasn't suggested buying a bulb and a lamp for his closet.

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i had bad luck with stones for a while, because my grain prep was sloppy, but once i got that dialed in it couldnt be easier






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Re: Growing in dark [Re: amidogen]
    #23732485 - 10/12/16 09:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Overgeneralized but yeah I don't understand how I came in after 4 pages and the guy wasn't suggested buying a bulb and a lamp for his closet



The fact that he created the thread suggested he'd either considered growing with light and chosen not to, or it wasn't physically possible for him to operate a light in his grow area. Everything he said made it sound as if he was set on growing in the dark and had no ability to do otherwise.

Besides, most of this thread was convincing the dude not to grow in a closet in a university-owned shack where people go to grow weed, and to instead grow in his own place or the home of a trusted associate. A light bulb won't do shit for his grow if his jars are in an evidence locker.




Yeah i was set on growing in the dark because i was under a strong assumption a set up like that was time consuming and expensive, like growing marijuana is.
(the so called shack isn't university owned)

I understand the concern and appreciate it though

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Re: Growing in dark [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #23732488 - 10/12/16 09:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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i dont know why it took us 5 pages to mention stones in a thread about growing in the dark, totally slipped my mind, but they are perfectly suited for stealth of this sort

they are sold as little kits all over the world in coffee shops. its really cool because (as mentioned) most people wouldnt know what it was if they saw it

at the same time i built that little FC into my RAs dorm wall, i also did a bunch of stones at my friends house, with much better luck. looking back on it, it was dumb as fuck, and i would never do a grow where i didnt have full control over the location again

i had bad luck with stones for a while, because my grain prep was sloppy, but once i got that dialed in it couldnt be easier

my original plan my first grow was to spend all my spare time making truffle jars and just save up a bunch, and also make pickles at the same time, and tell everyone i was always making pickles

a monotub is very much set-and-forget, if you follow most teks. it can be as simple or as complicated as you want to make it. i have started using micropore tape like pasty instead of polyfill, and running it with the lid off while i am home like bodhi, with killer results. But you could just fruit at spawning, like azure, and it doesnt get any easier than that. that is actually how i did it before i knew how: i just mixed grainspawn with compost and verm and coir, put it in a liner inside a monotub, and packed the holes with polyfill, then i left town for 2 weeks to a month and came back and harvested, total neglect tek. at the time it was just pure sloppiness though, i didnt realize that i needed to have it taped during the bulk colonization (spawning, colonizing, then fruiting, as opposed to inducing fruiting conditions at spawning)



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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23732515 - 10/12/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Growing for cheap is an art form. Once you get so basic equipment you should be able to grow for Pocket change. The time factor is dependent on how much you want to do. Small grows take very little time.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23732675 - 10/12/16 10:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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cant have firearms in the dorms :tmckenna:




It stays in a secure place in a locked car buddy.



Least secure place ever.

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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23732681 - 10/12/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Op mushrooms don't grow correctly without light.  The mycelium probably could have it either way, and probably eats the sun in darkenss anyway.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23732682 - 10/12/16 10:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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cant have firearms in the dorms :tmckenna:




It stays in a secure place in a locked car buddy.



Least secure place ever.




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Re: Growing in dark [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
    #23732692 - 10/12/16 10:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Op mushrooms don't grow correctly without light.  The mycelium probably could have it either way, and probably eats the sun in darkenss anyway.



Well now im aware of that.
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    #23732710 - 10/12/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Need is a strong word.  Does mycelium want light?:shrug:


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
    #23732731 - 10/12/16 10:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

bodhi is right about a vehicle being the least safe place ever for a gun:

#1 reason, police need a warrant to search a domicile, house/residence, but need basically nothing to search a vehicle, since it is considered movable evidence. vehicles, regardless of safes, are not subject to the same protection of property laws and almost none of the legal protections granted to other property

#2 you mention your pistol as though it were able to stop you from being victimized, when it would do nothing of the sort, especially not if you have to jump through that many hoops to get to it. the only way a pistol offers ANY protection is if it is loaded and carried on your person, and that comes with a whole different set of risks (especially these days)

#3 threatening someone with a weapon after the fact would not work out the way it seems in your imagination. the fact that a gun is even mentioned in this thread shows how determined you are/were to go to prison (though you sound like you might be coming around)


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #23732752 - 10/12/16 10:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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bodhi is right about a vehicle being the least safe place ever for a gun:

#1 reason, police need a warrant to search a domicile, house/residence, but need basically nothing to search a vehicle, since it is considered movable evidence. vehicles, regardless of safes, are not subject to the same protection of property laws and almost none of the legal protections granted to other property

#2 you mention your pistol as though it were able to stop you from being victimized, when it would do nothing of the sort, especially not if you have to jump through that many hoops to get to it. the only way a pistol offers ANY protection is if it is loaded and carried on your person, and that comes with a whole different set of risks (especially these days)

#3 threatening someone with a weapon after the fact would not work out the way it seems in your imagination. the fact that a gun is even mentioned in this thread shows how determined you are/were to go to prison (though you sound like you might be coming around)





#1 why would i hide it from police? No reason to do that i would take out my Concealed weapons permit.

#2 jump through what hoops? go to a firearm safety class? And it stays loaded on my person at all times every where i go. Only reason it's kept in there because technically im not aloud to take it in my dorm.

#3 I didn't threaten anyone with a weapon. I've had to use weapons other than firearms prior to the age of 21, and it worked out just fine.

If any one is a threat to my life can promise you i will without hesitation point my pistol straight at their head and if they decide to keep doing what there doing that's a very poor decision because i will than pull the trigger and end their life without remorse during or after.

I excercise my 2nd amendment to the fullest extent and you sound like a clinton supporter that is trying to take guns away

If i didnt have a firearm id have a taser

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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23733444 - 10/13/16 08:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I love guns I just think you're one of the people that is the reason we can't just carry them around


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23733494 - 10/13/16 08:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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bodhi is right about a vehicle being the least safe place ever for a gun:

#1 reason, police need a warrant to search a domicile, house/residence, but need basically nothing to search a vehicle, since it is considered movable evidence. vehicles, regardless of safes, are not subject to the same protection of property laws and almost none of the legal protections granted to other property

#2 you mention your pistol as though it were able to stop you from being victimized, when it would do nothing of the sort, especially not if you have to jump through that many hoops to get to it. the only way a pistol offers ANY protection is if it is loaded and carried on your person, and that comes with a whole different set of risks (especially these days)

#3 threatening someone with a weapon after the fact would not work out the way it seems in your imagination. the fact that a gun is even mentioned in this thread shows how determined you are/were to go to prison (though you sound like you might be coming around)





#1 why would i hide it from police? No reason to do that i would take out my Concealed weapons permit.

#2 jump through what hoops? go to a firearm safety class? And it stays loaded on my person at all times every where i go. Only reason it's kept in there because technically im not aloud to take it in my dorm.

#3 I didn't threaten anyone with a weapon. I've had to use weapons other than firearms prior to the age of 21, and it worked out just fine.

If any one is a threat to my life can promise you i will without hesitation point my pistol straight at their head and if they decide to keep doing what there doing that's a very poor decision because i will than pull the trigger and end their life without remorse during or after.

I excercise my 2nd amendment to the fullest extent and you sound like a clinton supporter that is trying to take guns away

If i didnt have a firearm id have a taser

if i didnt have a taser id have a baton

if i didnt have a baton id have brass knuckles

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    #23733500 - 10/13/16 08:59 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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    #23733554 - 10/13/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Cpl isn't a get out of jail free card.  It means you're held at a higher standard, and the penalties will be much worse than without.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23733613 - 10/13/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I love guns I just think you're one of the people that is the reason we can't just carry them around



^ this

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#1 why would i hide it from police? No reason to do that i would take out my Concealed weapons permit.

#2 jump through what hoops? go to a firearm safety class? And it stays loaded on my person at all times every where i go. Only reason it's kept in there because technically im not aloud to take it in my dorm.

#3 I didn't threaten anyone with a weapon. I've had to use weapons other than firearms prior to the age of 21, and it worked out just fine.

If any one is a threat to my life can promise you i will without hesitation point my pistol straight at their head and if they decide to keep doing what there doing that's a very poor decision because i will than pull the trigger and end their life without remorse during or after.

I excercise my 2nd amendment to the fullest extent and you sound like a clinton supporter that is trying to take guns away

If i didnt have a firearm id have a taser

if i didnt have a taser id have a baton

if i didnt have a baton id have brass knuckles

etc




#3 what you are doing here in this statement is a form of brandishing, and thats a great way to get that nifty little CWP taken away.

No one is gonna take your guns away. That's some paranoia spread-speculation bullshit right there.

You said it yourself, there's no hoops....a gun safety class and a 10 minute background check....any terrorist who isn't on the radar can do it.

And I second Azur's comment...... your a pussy. I grew up on the streets in NYC, queens and Brooklyn. I fought just about on a daily basis with people threatening my life and never needed a gun or any other weapon. If you NEED one then it seems to me you're either scared to use your fists or you got a big mouth and think that having a gun gives you respect when you pull it out. Either scenario describes a bitch.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: PortabellaFella 1]
    #23733647 - 10/13/16 10:08 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe the title "growing in the dark" is just referring to the desire not to learn, ignorance.


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It's definitely a candidate for metaphorical self reflection


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: PortabellaFella 1]
    #23733728 - 10/13/16 10:55 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I think it's funny how grown men argue like their in 9th grade

you grew up in new york and fought every day? good for you, do you want some award?

all im saying is i have no problem with killing someone if they are physically endangering my life

hmm, im a bitch because i have a gun and dont want to use my fists. makes sense because if i was in a fist fight i would DEFNITELY pull out my gun and shoot them (sarcasm)

OR i just excersise my 2nd amendment.

Explain how that is brandishing? saying that if someone is trying to kill me i would kill them instead.

No, brandishing is waving your weapon around and threatening people out of anger or excitement.

The point of having my CWP is defending my life when needed, and only drawing my weapon in severe circumstances. Or, if the government turns tyrannical which is pretty far fetched.

I am also a weapon enthusiast, point being why i would always have some sort of weapon. does not mean im going to pull out brass knuckles in a little fist fight.



Portabellafella1, is this some kind of competition to you? no one gives a fuck you used to fight every single day. Whats the point of bragging about it? i could brag about the times i used to sell and people tried to rob me and they got what they deserved. But why would i do that, whats the point? nothing.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23733734 - 10/13/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Maybe the title "growing in the dark" is just referring to the desire not to learn, ignorance.




I already apologized for the arrogance and being stubborn. Only reason i was trying to do that was because i was under the impression a sgfc and proper lighting was expensive and time consuming and i am on a college budget.


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    #23733737 - 10/13/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Cpl isn't a get out of jail free card.  It means you're held at a higher standard, and the penalties will be much worse than without.




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c10h12n2o said:
bodhi is right about a vehicle being the least safe place ever for a gun:

#1 reason, police need a warrant to search a domicile, house/residence, but need basically nothing to search a vehicle, since it is considered movable evidence. vehicles, regardless of safes, are not subject to the same protection of property laws and almost none of the legal protections granted to other property

#2 you mention your pistol as though it were able to stop you from being victimized, when it would do nothing of the sort, especially not if you have to jump through that many hoops to get to it. the only way a pistol offers ANY protection is if it is loaded and carried on your person, and that comes with a whole different set of risks (especially these days)

#3 threatening someone with a weapon after the fact would not work out the way it seems in your imagination. the fact that a gun is even mentioned in this thread shows how determined you are/were to go to prison (though you sound like you might be coming around)





#1 why would i hide it from police? No reason to do that i would take out my Concealed weapons permit.

#2 jump through what hoops? go to a firearm safety class? And it stays loaded on my person at all times every where i go. Only reason it's kept in there because technically im not aloud to take it in my dorm.

#3 I didn't threaten anyone with a weapon. I've had to use weapons other than firearms prior to the age of 21, and it worked out just fine.

If any one is a threat to my life can promise you i will without hesitation point my pistol straight at their head and if they decide to keep doing what there doing that's a very poor decision because i will than pull the trigger and end their life without remorse during or after.

I excercise my 2nd amendment to the fullest extent and you sound like a clinton supporter that is trying to take guns away

If i didnt have a firearm id have a taser

if i didnt have a taser id have a baton

if i didnt have a baton id have brass knuckles

etc



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Pussy or weapons enthusiast?

If i am in a fist fight i wouldn't pull out a weapon, THAT would make me a pussy.

If someone pulls a knife or gun for that matter on me and is highly trained its going to be pretty difficult to win without some sort of weapon


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    #23733774 - 10/13/16 11:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I own guns. I don't take them with me, ever, unless I want to go hunting. Never once have I wished I had it with me. Why? Because I'm not a pussy.


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    #23733789 - 10/13/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It's an example of living in an area where someone's life was threatened on a daily. For a someone like yourself to come on to a public forum and make statements like you did, just further enforces loss of faith in humanity. If you don't know the law, I'm not going to explain it to you. It is after all, the gun owners responsibility. But I'll give you an example or brag (because the 2 words are the same to you).The fact that you think that brandishing is solely defined by pulling a weapon out and waving it around is sad and misinformed. Telling people "if you or anybody ever blah blah  blah blah, I'll shoot them with this GUN IN MY POCKET" <----same as brandishing.
Furthermore I don't care what state you live in, the first rule is: always avoid the confrontation so that you don't need to use your firearm. Not I'll just shoot them. :derpyouverymuch:
There's no competition here, I just entered the fray because I can't stand ignorance. This is ALL about you and your chances of being threatened by a highly skilled knife wielding, gun toting hombre.


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    #23733795 - 10/13/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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    #23733804 - 10/13/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Growing in dark [Re: bodhisatta] * 3
    #23733806 - 10/13/16 11:29 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Guns should have never been brought up.  Only a shitbird brings up guns in their thread about growing in the dark.

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Re: Growing in dark [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23733807 - 10/13/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Inocuole]
    #23733810 - 10/13/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Guns should have never been brought up.  Only a shitbird brings up guns in their thread about growing in the dark.

Ban for quadruple posting and let's move on.



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Re: Growing in dark [Re: PortabellaFella 1]
    #23733812 - 10/13/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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It's an example of living in an area where someone's life was threatened on a daily. For a someone like yourself to come on to a public forum and make statements like you did, just further enforces loss of faith in humanity. If you don't know the law, I'm not going to explain it to you. It is after all, the gun owners responsibility. But I'll give you an example or brag (because the 2 words are the same to you).The fact that you think that brandishing is solely defined by pulling a weapon out and waving it around is sad and misinformed. Telling people "if you or anybody ever blah blah  blah blah, I'll shoot them with this GUN IN MY POCKET" <----same as brandishing.
Furthermore I don't care what state you live in, the first rule is: always avoid the confrontation so that you don't need to use your firearm. Not I'll just shoot them. :derpyouverymuch:
There's no competition here, I just entered the fray because I can't stand ignorance. This is ALL about you and your chances of being threatened by a highly skilled knife wielding, gun toting hombre.




Read what i said about it again. I should or worded it
"waiving your weapon around OR threatening someone out of anger or excitement.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23733821 - 10/13/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I've been avoiding clicking this thread simply because of the title,
but now that it has 8 pages I had to open it and see what the fuck makes a growing in the dark thread stay alive this long.

Then the page loads and it's about guns?!

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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Greg]
    #23733842 - 10/13/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

:facepalm3:me too greg

i thought i was gonna pick up on some awesome info.

i feel like i unknowingly took 'inactive' mushrooms
and its 6hours later and im like bitch gimme my money back.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Greg]
    #23733852 - 10/13/16 11:49 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Reading through all this gives me the impression OP wants to fruit in the dark so other people around the house wont find it. Like parents for example..


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: JacobStorm]
    #23733855 - 10/13/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

hey now, my first grow was in my parents house. but they didnt care.

although i had to lie to my mom to get her to mist my cakes when i was gone.

'uhh mom if they dry out they might explode spores and they will grow in the carpet'


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: JacobStorm]
    #23733869 - 10/13/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Reading through all this gives me the impression OP wants to fruit in the dark so other people around the house wont find it. Like parents for example..



Nah man he's 21 and he lives in dorms. :rolleyes:


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: JacobStorm]
    #23733870 - 10/13/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I'm done dealing with Mr life is like a box of chocolates..... you can wrestle a pig and win, but still end up smelling like a pig.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: SloppyJoseph]
    #23733874 - 10/13/16 11:59 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Reading through all this gives me the impression OP wants to fruit in the dark so other people around the house wont find it. Like parents for example..



Nah man he's 21 and he lives in dorms. :rolleyes:




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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23733923 - 10/13/16 12:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

They can be grown in darkness, but for cubes light is a pinning trigger and more pins equals more possible growth.
You can remove a Philips head screw with a flat head screwdriver, but using the right tools and conditions make life easier and usually have better results.


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    #23734070 - 10/13/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

:justno:

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    #23734088 - 10/13/16 01:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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bodhi is right about a vehicle being the least safe place ever for a gun:

#1 reason, police need a warrant to search a domicile, house/residence, but need basically nothing to search a vehicle, since it is considered movable evidence. vehicles, regardless of safes, are not subject to the same protection of property laws and almost none of the legal protections granted to other property

#2 you mention your pistol as though it were able to stop you from being victimized, when it would do nothing of the sort, especially not if you have to jump through that many hoops to get to it. the only way a pistol offers ANY protection is if it is loaded and carried on your person, and that comes with a whole different set of risks (especially these days)

#3 threatening someone with a weapon after the fact would not work out the way it seems in your imagination. the fact that a gun is even mentioned in this thread shows how determined you are/were to go to prison (though you sound like you might be coming around)





#1 why would i hide it from police? No reason to do that i would take out my Concealed weapons permit.

#2 jump through what hoops? go to a firearm safety class? And it stays loaded on my person at all times every where i go. Only reason it's kept in there because technically im not aloud to take it in my dorm.

#3 I didn't threaten anyone with a weapon. I've had to use weapons other than firearms prior to the age of 21, and it worked out just fine.

If any one is a threat to my life can promise you i will without hesitation point my pistol straight at their head and if they decide to keep doing what there doing that's a very poor decision because i will than pull the trigger and end their life without remorse during or after.

I excercise my 2nd amendment to the fullest extent and you sound like a clinton supporter that is trying to take guns away

If i didnt have a firearm id have a taser

if i didnt have a taser id have a baton

if i didnt have a baton id have brass knuckles

etc




spoken like a true idiot, right in line with the rest of your thread

like i said, the fact that a gun was even mentioned in this thread shows how determined you are to go to prison

it is damn funny that you would call the Ron Paul fanatic a hillary clinton fan, that is just rich, i laughed out loud

i own more guns than you have IQ points, not even exaggerating (even if we let you decide what your IQ is). Never once have i considered pulling one on someone. once i got the shit kicked out of me by 6 guys (i definitely started it lol) and had an HK USP in my pocket the whole time i was getting kicked in the face, and my only thought about the gun was hoping it didnt get damaged

im one of those hardcore libertarians. i think a lot of the problem with police militarization in this country is cops that are so scared of getting punched that they are willing to shoot a kid dead before even the THOUGHT that they might get hit. that is cowardice, and they should not be allowed to carry guns if they are such pussys that they are willing to take someones life over the threat of being hit

you completely missed the points i made, right over your head:

#1 concealed weapons permit is totally beside the point. if someone wants to victimize your cowardly ass while you are walking back from your little jackoff shed, that gun locked in a gun safe isnt gonna do you one bit of good. you say "its always on my person" in the same breath that you say "i cant have it in the place where i live", are you just stupid? you clearly like arguing much more than thinking

#1a also, a weapons permit means you are held to a higher standard, not that you are allowed to point guns at people. and when police find you with a CWP and a seed, stem, or some fungus, first thing they will do is take the gun, revoke your license, and charge you like you were running a meth cartel. its the way the law works, when they find drugs and a gun, they get boners, even if its medical mmj and a CWP. and since you arent exactly a very thoughtful person, this is a felony waiting to happen

#2 the hoops i am talking about is your dumbass gun safe, and the fact that you keep it LOCKED in a vehicle. you think someone is gonna wait on you to go unlock your truck so you can defend yourself? thats naive, just like all the people who keep guns locked up in a gun safe "for protection"

#3 do you fucking hear yourself? "i didnt threaten anyone with a weapon" in the same sentence with "I've had to use weapons other than firearms prior to the age of 21, and it worked out just fine". the fact that you  would even mention a gun in this thread show how committed you are to goin to prison

azure is right, you sound like a mega pussy, like the cops who shoot kids dead because they feel threatened. ive been stabbed 3 times, shot once, and have been in countless fights where i had a badass spyderco matriarch (or civillian) in my pocket and either a HK USP .45 or a springfield xds .45 in my waistband, and have never even considered pointing a weapon at someone

people like you are the reason why clinton and the people "who want to take your guns away" think they are right, because stupid fuckers like you go around spouting macho nonsense pumping up their ego trying to act tough, trying to grow mushrooms and weed while "using weapons on people" (or at least pretending to on the internet to sound tough). People like you are why reasonable people fall for the anti-gun BS. For the love of god, please get my 2nd amendment out of your mouth, it deserves more respect than that


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