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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23730360 - 10/12/16 07:16 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If you live with the rents I would say hold off on cultivation. You wouldn't want them to find your grow and "help" you by calling the boys in blue.

Maybe Hunting would be a better fit for your current situation.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: The Mycologist]
    #23730361 - 10/12/16 07:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Oh, and I have multiple write ups of pf tek I've read that have given me information. That was not my purpose for making this thread


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: The Mycologist]
    #23730368 - 10/12/16 07:20 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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If you live with the rents I would say hold off on cultivation. You wouldn't want them to find your grow and "help" you by calling the boys in blue.

Maybe Hunting would be a better fit for your current situation.




Fuck it I'll just say it I live in a college dorm. It's pretty relaxed in terms of searching rooms which never happens. My mates all are into this as well so no problem there.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23730399 - 10/12/16 07:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not here to tell you what to do but that's as bad or worse than living with your parents. An RA will call the police, everyone in a dorm has a mouth, and colleges will expel you if your caught. The govmt will demand any loans or grants to be paid in full after being expelled.
Parents typically wouldn't ruin your life like that.
but it is your choice so please be wise about it.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: dnkronic]
    #23730421 - 10/12/16 08:00 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm not here to tell you what to do but that's as bad or worse than living with your parents. An RA will call the police, everyone in a dorm has a mouth, and colleges will expel you if your caught. The govmt will demand any loans or grants to be paid in full after being expelled.
Parents typically wouldn't ruin your life like that.
but it is your choice so please be wise about it.




It won't be growing in that dorm room I have another area for that. Which is why it would be in the dark most of the time, shit I wish I lived with my parents they wouldn't care


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    #23730426 - 10/12/16 08:04 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Growing in dark [Re: amidogen]
    #23730449 - 10/12/16 08:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

:whathesaid:

Just in time for the shitshow..

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Re: Growing in dark [Re: amidogen]
    #23730465 - 10/12/16 08:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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...you still don't get what all these people are telling you?

Growing in a dorm room is an awful idea. Why are you paying thousands of dollars to risk having your education rendered meaningless when your RA finds them (or your buddies have a friend over with a big mouth) and your life ruined when your college turns you over to the cops?

I don't get it. You say you want to grow. Then you say you don't want to put the 20 minutes of time or $10 of money into making even the most basic fruiting chamber. You want to grow in total darkness because you know you're fucked if they're found. So remind me why you think this is a good idea again?

Look, first time growers like you who even have a place of their own without an RA to worry about and try to do everything right are still happy as shit when they only get 3 dry grams off a single cake per flush. And that's when they build a proper SGFC and grow their shrooms with proper lighting. By the way, even if you build a proper SGFC it won't work in a small dark closet - the most important thing for growing is proper FAE, which you're simply not going to be able to provide.

So to sum it all up, yes, you could probably get away with colonizing your PF jars in your dark closet. After a month of worrying about a random search or one motivated by, say, some asshole who doesn't even live in your room getting caught with drugs and bringing a search down on the whole building, you're going to try some half-assed fruiting chamber in a small enclosed space without proper FAE needed for fruiting and with no light. How do you plan to provide any pinning triggers?

Better yet, have you really thought of the logistics of this? Let's say a moderate yield with a single PF cake fruited properly is 3 dry grams per flush. Assume you get two flushes before it goes green, so 6 g per cake. An average dose is around 3 g say. So you get two doses per cake. For all the risk you're exposing your entire life to, you want to get more than just 2 doses. And your friends are certainly going to want some since if you get caught they're fucked by association. So let's say you want 14 doses - 10 for you so you don't have to risk it anymore in a fucking dorm, and one for each of what I assume is 4 roomies or 2 each for 2 roomies. That's 7 cakes.

But that assumes all 7 get through 2 flushes without contamination. On your first grow I'd say you can count on at least 1 jar of every 5 going bad because come on, it's your first time. So now you need an extra 2 as a buffer, and if you're going to make 9 jars you may as well make 10.

But you're going to do it half-assed in a closet with no light and a bullshit fruiting chamber concoction. So I think you should be thrilled to get even a dry gram off a cake per flush. So now you need three cakes just to get a single dose. Do you see where this is going?

It sucks ass being in college and unable to grow the drugs your heart desires. You should wait until you have the proper living situation where you can provide proper conditions. Otherwise you're setting yourself up for failure and a distaste for this hobby, assuming you make it to the harvesting stage without getting caught and your life ruined.

...you're still set on telling is we're wrong and doing this as you described, aren't you?

Ok: everything I said still applies in terms of yield and logistics, but tell us, where's this safe dark place you're going to grow in?




The purpose of making this thread was to get more people's opinions on fungi fruiting in darkness. Not to get people playing mom and dad.
This is going to happen either way and when I have seen people do it this way before and than all of you bashing on me and telling me I'm wrong I don't know what I'm talking about and I shouldn't be growing. Who the fuck are any of you to tell me that?

Thank you to the people who aren't telling me what to do.

Again, not my question. Don't try to be my consciousness I've already debated whether or not I should do this, found a place and no everything I need to do from colonization to flushing.

I don't need any of you to think for me
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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23730475 - 10/12/16 08:26 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Well here.

Fruiting in the dark is shitty and shouldn't be done. Part of every tek is a 12/12 light cycle for fruiting.

We have your best interests in mind. I know mushrooms come from the ground so it seems like they wouldn't be that illegal. But shrooms are schedule 1, what you are doing is as illegal as cooking meth.

IMHO I say go hunting, or just get a part time job and buy them from a dealer because trying to grow in a dorm is too risky. The Cons outweigh the pros.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23730482 - 10/12/16 08:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

This community has been more than helpful and kind for absolutely everything else. Now apparently there's some sort of seniority going on about this one topic.

I don't know why any of you think I'm not capable of thinking for myself and have to gang up on me  and tell me no this isn't right
When COMMERCIAL EDIBLE MUSHROOMS ARE KEPT IN THE DARK MOST OF THE TIME

I understand that growing to your standards would yield better. I'm on a spiritual journey.

Again this is a personal grow I'm guessing a lot of you sell yours whether you admit it or not I don't really care.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: The Mycologist]
    #23730489 - 10/12/16 08:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Well here.

Fruiting in the dark is shitty and shouldn't be done. Part of every tek is a 12/12 light cycle for fruiting.

We have your best interests in mind. I know mushrooms come from the ground so it seems like they wouldn't be that illegal. But shrooms are schedule 1, what you are doing is as illegal as cooking meth.

IMHO I say go hunting, or just get a part time job and buy them from a dealer because trying to grow in a dorm is too risky. The Cons outweigh the pros.




Smoking weed is as illegal as doing meth also
Anyone who grows or hunts mushrooms are taking these risks anyways
I have been hunting for awhile
I am aware of federal and state laws and regulations.
I understand you have my best interests in mind, but I have my own consciousness and my own situation which I'm not going to talk about it detail

Anyways yeah it's probably not going to be as good as a 12/12 hour light cycle


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23730511 - 10/12/16 08:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Neither smoking weed or doing meth is illegal, Having them in your pocket is. There is a big difference in the punishments between having a schedule one drug and creating more of it.

You can do whatever you want, but I can guarantee anytime some shroomers here about foolish stuff being done we feel a moral responsibility to say something.


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Re: Growing in dark *DELETED* [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23730523 - 10/12/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23730528 - 10/12/16 08:46 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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COMMERCIAL EDIBLE MUSHROOMS ARE KEPT IN THE DARK MOST OF THE TIME




Source?

I've only ever seen shitty button mushrooms done in the dark.

Besides why correlate two entirely different things. Thats like throwing some weed and feed in your MJ plants because it worked well for your lawn and hey they're both plants

Advice here is free...
Also we know noobs are capable of using the search engine
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23717633
Because some people's first post looks like this guy's first post here.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: amidogen]
    #23730587 - 10/12/16 09:10 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Never sold a drug in my life  :flipthebird:

You came here for advice. The fact that you got advice you don't want to hear doesn't make it bad. Maybe a lot of us have been college kids and had close calls with the kind of shit you're doing ruining our lives and we're trying to keep you from doing the same :shrug:

You need to stop with the "people grow commercial edibles in dark so it will work for cubes!" Those are completely different species, some of which don't just get grown in the dark because the growers are vampires, but because they require darkness. Cubes are not the same species and do Not require darkness. You're basically yelling "people raise rabbits by feeding them lettuce and hay all the time so why the fuck won't you people just tell me I can raise a tiger by feeding it the same diet!?"

You got your answer. It won't go well in the dark. It will go so poorly that you'll have to use at least 3 times as many cakes to get doses for your "spiritual journey" as you would if you did it properly. What's so hard to understand about that?

Come on, tell us where you're planning to grow these. You said it's not in your dorm room, but that it's a dark place away from it. Is it the basement of your dorm? An abandoned shack off campus that a homeless guy sometimes squats in? Ooh a rental storage shed? Come on I'm tired of guessing.

Do you want advice on how to not completely fuck this, or for us to instead say "yeah sounds great you're gonna be harvestin fruits in no time, carry on! :super:" when we know full well we'd be lying that your plan sounds like it will end in anything other than a contaminated mess?

If you're so set on growing in this place, tell us what sort of place it is and give us your actual game plan. You keep telling us how people do it all the time, so show us your tek or explain it in detail, from inoculation to substrate prep to colonization to fruiting.



See this is the type of reply i want.

Others were saying not to do it not giving me any advice.

its a closet type area and thats all i saying about it.
Im not going to find the specific link but theres threads about people putting cakes in 2 litler bottles, 7/11 cups, and everything in between. I figured a gallon water jug would be wide enough for the ones growing on the side. Shrooms are photo sensitive, right? would that be the reason they need light to just know which way is up?
ill be doing brf cakes with vermiculite growing golden teacher syringes, in 1/2 pint to 1 pint wide mouth jars. let it colonize, put perlite in the bottom of a gallon jug and cut the top off and place saran wrap over it. Ill probably be dunking them and than periodically misting inside the gallon to keep up the humidity.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23730599 - 10/12/16 09:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I love how you know so much about how it's done but can't look up light amd cubes....

Do they need light to find their way up?
Well considering noobs grow in the dark and it works albeit poorly. They use gravity to find their way up I would say no the light is not for directions to the sky.

The caps tilt towards the light though

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/dosearch.php?where=body&tosearch=both&how=all&words=Light+energy&limit=25&forum=f2&showmain=1&expert=1&sort=r&way=d

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Re: Growing in dark [Re: The Mycologist]
    #23730608 - 10/12/16 09:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Neither smoking weed or doing meth is illegal, Having them in your pocket is. There is a big difference in the punishments between having a schedule one drug and creating more of it.

You can do whatever you want, but I can guarantee anytime some shroomers here about foolish stuff being done we feel a moral responsibility to say something.




So your telling me if a cop walked up on you smoking a joint or hitting a crack pipe you wouldn't be charged with possession?

Your not the one thats bothering me you are helpful and looking out some of those other people are just bashing on me and telling me not to do this.

I just dont understand how people say it isn't going to work when it has for other people before.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23730618 - 10/12/16 09:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I love how you know so much about how it's done but can't look up light amd cubes....

Do they need light to find their way up?
Well considering noobs grow in the dark and it works albeit poorly. They use gravity to find their way up I would say no the light is not for directions to the sky.

The caps tilt towards the light though

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/dosearch.php?where=body&tosearch=both&how=all&words=Light+energy&limit=25&forum=f2&showmain=1&expert=1&sort=r&way=d

Difficulty level 4th grade




I have looked up light and cubensis no need to be condescending dick.

The reason for creating it was to get more people opinions about growing in the dark. It seems to be a relatively debated thing.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23730621 - 10/12/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It's really not. Show me where this is a debated topic in the last three years


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Speaking of edibles try oysters in the dark.


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Re: Growing in dark [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23730632 - 10/12/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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It's really not. Show me where this is a debated topic in the last three years


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https://www.shroomology.org/forums/topic/10181-about-light-what-are-your-thoughts/
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12405026

Just a couple i could find real quick.
On the second link look at the comparison of them fruiting in light and dark.


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