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redgreenvines
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Leviticus969 said: I'd like to hear scientist explain lucid dreams and deja vu.
this is a very simple explanation for you about deja vu (I have not ever addressed lucid dreams, but I think they are experiences of waking from the deep sleep and aware that you are dreaming)
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/3422475#3422475 also https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/3139427#3139427 maybe this is where you mean to go https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4729977#4729977
so yes while awakening from a dream you can easily feel stoned, or have deja vu.
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Re: Dreams vs Reality [Re: pineninja] 3
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pineninja said: You can't have one without the other.
I think that is the most succinct way of getting to the root. At least in my conceptualization of it, the universe has fractalized itself in order to experience and understand itself. To quote Rumi, we are the entire ocean in a single drop. Without waking life to contrast against it, the dream loses its definition. We come to understand anything by investigating it's boundaries. Gestalt psychology takes into a step further and unites the singular with the whole. A nice circle back to where we started. We are living in the dream, all the time.
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doomshroom88
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lucid dreaming is cool as hell. Ive heard its possible to train yourself into, through modified behavior while awake
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Thanatos10
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But would it really be preferable to just stay in the dream rather than struggle through life?
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When you get Dejavu you can encode it to wake up in a dream...when the relevant information you are sensing is similar...
That is of course what Dejavu is for..including learning as well!
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redgreenvines
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BrendanFlock said: When you get Dejavu you can encode it to wake up in a dream...when the relevant information you are sensing is similar...
That is of course what Dejavu is for..including learning as well!
well you can use it how you like, but Deja Vu is not a thing with a purpose, it is a side effect of the mind working normally (when more resonant than usual). assuming that things like Deja Vu have purpose when they are not artifacts of intention is too much of a stretch. when you stretch things that way, you lose your balance.
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hmm, losing balance is all about what dejavu is..
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Thanatos10 said: http://lucidability.com/dreams-vs-reality/
The above link got me thinking, if one did have the chance to dream forever and be in a realm where you could get whatever you wanted, why would you want to wake? What is so great about the waking world that would make rise from such a dream. If you can just create a better world when you sleep, why bother doing anything in the waking one?
It weighs heavy on my mind.
I think there is something interesting about the grittiness of reality. In a dream reality where you could get everything you wanted it would be great, but it wouldn't have that exact interesting quality you get with our waking reality. In my more optimistic moments I find myself thinking that I would rather live an interesting life than a happy one.
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redgreenvines
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this is something we can count on, but it is only interesting to who pays attention.
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