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PieEyed-Messiah
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How do I know when to fruit my monotub
#23728286 - 10/11/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm confused should I wait for my mono to be completely covers in fuzzy thick mycelium or is OK if the substrate is colonized just not so thick and fluffy or should I wait tI'll the whole tub is fluffy ish? the whole surface is coverd just not as fluffy as the spots of spawn
Edited by PieEyed-Messiah (10/11/16 01:39 PM)
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freespeech
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Hard to tell from the pic but I'd probably wait a couple more days. If it's contaminated, it probably won't finish colonizing anyway.
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Re: How do I know when to fruit my monotub [Re: freespeech]
#23728322 - 10/11/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't see any contamination ive thoroughly searched
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mushboy
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hard to tell.
alot of people have been spawning and straight to fruiting and getting decent results. personally i havent tried it.
i fruit when the top layer(no casing layer) is about 60-75% it gets to 100% right when the first flush pins become more pronounced
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Re: How do I know when to fruit my monotub [Re: mushboy]
#23728346 - 10/11/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well I'm defiantly at about 60-70 % would it help if I opened the lidoor to snap a pic or would that hurt it(I try and be as steril as possible
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PieEyed-Messiah said: I don't see any contamination ive thoroughly searched
Sure, but if you have a colonizing substrate where the growth slows or stops, it usually means it's contaminated, or the moisture content is off (which will also lead to contamination because there will be uncolonized material.) The contamination is often on the inside, and won't make an appearance on the surface for a while. I'm not saying that's what happened for you, but it's possible. Give it a day or two, and monitor it. Whether it grows more or not, I'd probably fruit it either way at that point.
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PieEyed-Messiah said: Well I'm defiantly at about 60-70 % would it help if I opened the lidoor to snap a pic or would that hurt it(I try and be as steril as possible
You don't really have to worry about sterility with a colonizing tub. What you're more concerned about is introducing pinning triggers (fresh air) before it's ready to fruit. However, lifting the lid for a quick peek and photo is fine.
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Re: How do I know when to fruit my monotub [Re: freespeech]
#23728394 - 10/11/16 02:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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well now that I can blow it up I think a few more days might be OK to fruit
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Edited by PieEyed-Messiah (10/11/16 02:13 PM)
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Terpfreak
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A tub will only fruit when it is fully colonized (or when the mycelium believes it is, in cases of weak growth the tub may look like it's not fully colonized when pinning begins)
My first point still stands, the tub will let you know when it's ready.
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freespeech
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It looks okay to me, but it looks like it's not quite ready to fruit. Give it a few more days and see if it continues growing. Regardless of whether it does or not, eventually you will fruit it.
If the mycelium never really thickens up, then when you dump the tub, break the substrate apart and look at the interior. See if there are areas that didn't colonize inside. This will give you a clue as to what might have gone wrong, and it will give you experience seeing what substrate should not look like. Most likely problems would be 1) bad substrate moisture content, 2) substrate improperly pasteurized, and/or 3) spawn was contaminated.
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PieEyed-Messiah
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These are 55 gallon tubs I wanted to try large ones thought it would be worth a shot my regular 61 qt monosodium are fine theses just seem to be taking longer I used the same spawn ratio? these are the 61 qt tubs well one of them they have Ben cased and fruiting for 3days
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for me... id fruit it now.
others might wait for it to be 100% but i fruit when it looks just like that.
again thats what i do... if a more experienced grower whats to throw science talk to say otherwise for better results then ill stfu.
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Re: How do I know when to fruit my monotub [Re: freespeech]
#23728442 - 10/11/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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freespeech said: It looks okay to me, but it looks like it's not quite ready to fruit. Give it a few more days and see if it continues growing. Regardless of whether it does or not, eventually you will fruit it.
If the mycelium never really thickens up, then when you dump the tub, break the substrate apart and look at the interior. See if there are areas that didn't colonize inside. This will give you a clue as to what might have gone wrong, and it will give you experience seeing what substrate should not look like. Most likely problems would be 1) bad substrate moisture content, 2) substrate improperly pasteurized, and/or 3) spawn was contaminated.
Well I accidentally dropped one of theses bigass mofos yesterday I was pissed but I did exactly that and the whole inside and out look exactly like the image above
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Edited by PieEyed-Messiah (10/11/16 02:24 PM)
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freespeech
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You should have mentioned that you're using a casing layer in the first post. I think you're fine. Personally I am skeptical of using such a large tub, because you're putting more eggs in one large basket for probably no good reason. That said, experimenting is fun, and I don't know what your goals are. Let us know your results.
Your mycelium in all the pics is a bit fluffy but probably nothing to worry about. Give it all a bit more time and update us.
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Re: How do I know when to fruit my monotub [Re: freespeech]
#23728459 - 10/11/16 02:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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freespeech said: You should have mentioned that you're using a casing layer in the first post. I think you're fine. Personally I am skeptical of using such a large tub, because you're putting more eggs in one large basket for probably no good reason. That said, experimenting is fun, and I don't know what your goals are. Let us know your results.
Your mycelium in all the pics is a bit fluffy but probably nothing to worry about. Give it all a bit more time and update us.
Thx Lmao I made 80 wbs qt jars for this experiment from one drop of spore solution using pasty plates I wanted to try and see if I got the same results as in my big ass fc using brownie pans
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Edited by PieEyed-Messiah (10/11/16 02:30 PM)
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PieEyed-Messiah
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Thx for the advice everyone ... they have Ben cased and introduced to fruiting conditions!! I will keep you posted
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