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Herbgrower12
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Dried San Pedro chips
#23727886 - 10/11/16 10:20 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So I have roughly 4 ounces of dried san pedro chips, They are close to 2 years old and have been sealed in a zip lock bag. Not sure how to go about brewing or using this yet. Anyone have experiences with dried pedro ?
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Re: Dried San Pedro chips (moved) [Re: Herbgrower12]
#23728146 - 10/11/16 12:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from Other Drugs Discussion.
Reason: Cactus threads belong in The Psychedelic Experience forum.
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Re: Dried San Pedro chips (moved) [Re: DustBunny]
#23728287 - 10/11/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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ive heard good things about tea extracts using dried chips and u need a lot! Which u hvae.
Pretty sure the mescaline will be preserved but who knows
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Re: Dried San Pedro chips (moved) [Re: DustBunny]
#23728292 - 10/11/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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crushing them up and then putting them into OO capsules is the easiest form of injection but leads to a nasty stomach ache when they expand in ur stomach, it only lasts an hour max tho. U can put them in the freezer and dethaw them a few times to somehow make the mescalin more readily absorbed by the body, and you can drink some lemon and orange juice in order to help your stomach break it down. I bet the potency is still pretty good, mescalin is pretty heat resistant and stuff, its strong
for dosage idk. Certain cactus are just much more potent than others. The older the cactus the more potent
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meant to say ingestion lol
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"injection" 
Please dont inject your dried chips folks.
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Herbgrower12
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Yeah wasnt planning on Injecting it Is the first time a functional experience? Do people know your tripping or is it mellow but still powerful? Not sure about dosing yet. might go halves or use it all.
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Re: Dried San Pedro chips (moved) [Re: Herbgrower12]
#23729308 - 10/11/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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i would go use it all.
I knew i was tripping my first mescaline dose. Definitely a feeling of dreaming/surrealness, sorta drunkness feeling.
When u get the dosage right, u will know right away. Dosing right takes time and it helps to know that your cacti is already potent.
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A lot of cactus threads these days. You might want to look up doing an alcohol extraction or how to brew tea, I prefer taking the tar from an alcohol extraction.
I highly recommend against ingesting 4oz of dried/powdered pedro chips, that would be incredibly uncomfortable at the very least and might even impact your bowel; it will swell back up to the size of the cactus once inside your body and that's probably a good 2 feet worth of pedro.
113g of dried material sounds good if the pedro is predominant cultivar and on the weak side, if it happens to be really strong Ecuadorian pedro you might be overwhelmed, but that is unlikely unless your source is awesome and you paid a premium. Most dried pedro on auction sites is PC and very weak. I'd expect a solid medium trip, something very manageable.
Mescaline is a very smooth ride, much less scary than mushrooms or even LSD, which happens to be a pretty smooth ride itself. Keep your set and setting controlled, comfortable and safe, which should go without saying for any psychedelic, especially for the first time. But it makes your body feel awesome, music sound incredible and is very inspiring. If you have a girlfriend or fuck buddy you'll want to try and have sex at some point during the trip, it is the most erotic Psychedelic IMO and makes me horny as a goat.
Mescaline takes a while to kick in, even longer to peak and lasts at least 8-12 hours, I've heard of really strong doses lasting 24. Make sure you have a whole 24 hours after your dosing time free to enjoy the experience ,or you might end up still tripping when it's time for work or whatever and that will be no good. Enjoy. All this talk of mescaline is making me want to trip again.
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Just do a simple A/B or STB extract. Then you can measure out precise mg's. Don't eat 4 oz of dried cacti unless you have an iron gut and enjoy nausea. If unable to do a simple extract make tea or tar.
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Dried san pedro contains between 0.1% and 2.375% mescaline. https://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_sanpedro_potency_faq.shtml
That means that four ounces contains between 113mg and 2,684mg of mescaline.
You can look at this dosage chart to get an idea of what that means. https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mescaline/mescaline_dose.shtml
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Re: Dried San Pedro chips (moved) [Re: healing]
#23729676 - 10/11/16 10:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks! I really never have 24 hours to spare... I actually have only 8-9 hours to spare . Im assuming after 8+ hours the experience mellows out and am able to function and or take walks without stumbling around or looking like Im tripping balls down the sidewalk If the experience is worth it, Nausea doesnt matter to me. After dosing hbwr seeds in an awful solution of garlic water and sweetner I puked and walked away like nothing happened,also checked the next morning and there was no puke. Weird. I hope the san pedro is more helpful than the HBWR seeds. I will have some company after about 8 hours the day I plan on tripping and don't want to look mindfucked or crazy. Im thinking about powdering it and cooking it in water... for a while then straining and then drinking after it cools. Any recommendations>?
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Re: Dried San Pedro chips (moved) [Re: Herbgrower12]
#23729690 - 10/11/16 10:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I also dont plan on eating the dried cactus at all haha I heard its awful and expands like crazy in your stomach. Blah
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Re: Dried San Pedro chips (moved) [Re: Herbgrower12]
#23729709 - 10/11/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I will watch this later.
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Re: Dried San Pedro chips (moved) [Re: healing]
#23729751 - 10/11/16 10:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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healing said: Dried san pedro contains between 0.1% and 2.375% mescaline. https://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_sanpedro_potency_faq.shtml
That means that four ounces contains between 113mg and 2,684mg of mescaline.
You can look at this dosage chart to get an idea of what that means. https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mescaline/mescaline_dose.shtml
Yeah, although PC pedro is the .1-.6% and wild pedro is more in the 1-2% range. That's why it would be nice to know exactly what kind of plant this came from. OP, you may want to prepare it then split it up in halves or thirds and then dose one portion and redose as needed if it's weak. Another option is to look up the d-limonene tek and do a full mescaline extraction, that way you'd actually be measuring out pure mescaline instead of guestimating potency.
This is why buying dried chips is not the greatest idea, you have no idea what kind of plant that really is, just whatever the vendor says. From all the complaining I've heard of dried pedro being bunk and people not tripping etc. I would not be too worried that it will turn out to be too potent. I've seen people recommending 200g doses of dried pedro, obviously that is some weak ass cactus they are using.
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Re: Dried San Pedro chips (moved) [Re: Herbgrower12]
#23729829 - 10/11/16 10:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Herbgrower12 said: Thanks! I really never have 24 hours to spare... I actually have only 8-9 hours to spare . Im assuming after 8+ hours the experience mellows out and am able to function and or take walks without stumbling around or looking like Im tripping balls down the sidewalk If the experience is worth it, Nausea doesnt matter to me. After dosing hbwr seeds in an awful solution of garlic water and sweetner I puked and walked away like nothing happened,also checked the next morning and there was no puke. Weird. I hope the san pedro is more helpful than the HBWR seeds. I will have some company after about 8 hours the day I plan on tripping and don't want to look mindfucked or crazy. Im thinking about powdering it and cooking it in water... for a while then straining and then drinking after it cools. Any recommendations>? 
Mescaline may not be the best idea for you then dude. It is pretty dose dependent, with low/threshold doses lasting as little as 6-8 hours, but any substantial dose is more like 12, and can easily go 16. I've heard of epic doses lasting 24hrs. I have also read several trip reports where people take it, wait several hours with no effects, then go to bed only to wake up in the middle of the night tripping fucking balls and having it carry on into the next day. Purified mescaline and or good tar on an empty stomach tends to have a quicker come up than say, just chewing the fresh cactus or taking it on a full stomach.
I will only do mescaline if I have taken the day off and have a whole 24 hours dedicated to tripping. That makes it a rare treat. Mushrooms you can easily be sober in 8 hours, with mescaline that is not a guarantee and is in fact highly unlikely. Use your PTO, rent a hotel room or go camping, make it a vacation, because while mescaline is worth the investment, it takes a whole day.
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Re: Dried San Pedro chips (moved) [Re: Tuhdoww]
#23729861 - 10/11/16 10:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Tuhdoww said: I will watch this later.
Wrong thread
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Herbgrower12 said: Thanks! I really never have 24 hours to spare... I actually have only 8-9 hours to spare . Im assuming after 8+ hours the experience mellows out and am able to function and or take walks without stumbling around or looking like Im tripping balls down the sidewalk If the experience is worth it, Nausea doesnt matter to me. After dosing hbwr seeds in an awful solution of garlic water and sweetner I puked and walked away like nothing happened,also checked the next morning and there was no puke. Weird. I hope the san pedro is more helpful than the HBWR seeds. I will have some company after about 8 hours the day I plan on tripping and don't want to look mindfucked or crazy. Im thinking about powdering it and cooking it in water... for a while then straining and then drinking after it cools. Any recommendations>? 
Mescaline may not be the best idea for you then dude. It is pretty dose dependent, with low/threshold doses lasting as little as 6-8 hours, but any substantial dose is more like 12, and can easily go 16. I've heard of epic doses lasting 24hrs. I have also read several trip reports where people take it, wait several hours with no effects, then go to bed only to wake up in the middle of the night tripping fucking balls and having it carry on into the next day. Purified mescaline and or good tar on an empty stomach tends to have a quicker come up than say, just chewing the fresh cactus or taking it on a full stomach.
I will only do mescaline if I have taken the day off and have a whole 24 hours dedicated to tripping. That makes it a rare treat. Mushrooms you can easily be sober in 8 hours, with mescaline that is not a guarantee and is in fact highly unlikely. Use your PTO, rent a hotel room or go camping, make it a vacation, because while mescaline is worth the investment, it takes a whole day.
It takes a whole day and then you need at least another full day to recover completely.
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Re: Dried San Pedro chips (moved) [Re: healing]
#23729913 - 10/11/16 11:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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healing said: It takes a whole day and then you need at least another full day to recover completely.
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I cant wait to get some bitter cactus. Mmm! Love that cactus.
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