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OfflineDmt_psilocybin
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Gymnopilus luteocarneus?
    #23726720 - 10/10/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Gills-orange, after picking there seems to be remnants of purple on them (see pics below)
Cap-orange-pale orange
Veil-might not be able to see in pics but there is remnants of a veil
Stem-orange
Habitat- cow dung. Although could be a coincidence there are a lot of dead trees near by.

Someone pointed out they could be  gym luteocarneus, and after looking into I also believe they are. I would love for someone to positively identify though. These had maggots in them. Although I don't mind eating them I have eaten them before an they are full of protein very popular food in a lot of cultures but that's beside the point.
Also, I don't believe there are any poisonous gyms either. If someone could tell me that or not.


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Re: Gymnopilus luteocarneus? [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23726909 - 10/10/16 10:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

luteocarneus grows on conifer logs, no Gym species grows on dung.


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Re: Gymnopilus luteocarneus? [Re: Lucis]
    #23726934 - 10/10/16 10:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Fennario said:
luteocarneus grows on conifer logs, no Gym species grows on dung.




I should have specified, they were growing what seemed to be on but mostly near the patty. Would it be possible to be coincidental? Also there is a lot of dead wood around. Some could be buried in the ground.
Looking at the pictures, what else could it even be?


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Re: Gymnopilus luteocarneus? [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23726948 - 10/10/16 10:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I am unfamiliar with this species of Gymnopilus, and from what I understand the genus is a bit of a wreck, work needs to be done on it to clarify some things.


Are you on the west coast?  Don't be specific with your location, just are you on the west coast?  The only reported finds of this are from the west coast.

Perhaps Alan, or another Gymnopilus lover will want to scope these.


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Re: Gymnopilus luteocarneus? [Re: Lucis]
    #23726988 - 10/10/16 10:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Fennario said:
I am unfamiliar with this species of Gymnopilus, and from what I understand the genus is a bit of a wreck, work needs to be done on it to clarify some things.


Are you on the west coast?  Don't be specific with your location, just are you on the west coast?  The only reported finds of this are from the west coast.

Perhaps Alan, or another Gymnopilus lover will want to scope these.




Alan is actually the one who said they are probably gym luteocarneus. But other than that nothing else was said about it so I'm trying to get a few more people's opinions.
But yeah I see that the genus needs some more research.

I am on the gulf coast.


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Re: Gymnopilus luteocarneus? [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23727058 - 10/10/16 11:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

They are definitely Gyms, same color and the gills/ stem are similar to junonus i have found, they are not junonus though.


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Re: Gymnopilus luteocarneus? [Re: oxygen]
    #23727132 - 10/10/16 11:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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oxygen said:
They are definitely Gyms, same color and the gills/ stem are similar to junonus i have found, they are not junonus though.




Any insight into what species? Alan was probably right about the luteocarneus, but I would like to hear some more opinions to be safe. Although I don't believe there are any poisonous gyms out there. Please correct me if I'm wrong


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Re: Gymnopilus luteocarneus? [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23727139 - 10/10/16 11:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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oxygen said:
They are definitely Gyms, same color and the gills/ stem are similar to junonus i have found, they are not junonus though.




Any insight into what species? Alan was probably right about the luteocarneus, but I would like to hear some more opinions to be safe. Although I don't believe there are any poisonous gyms out there. Please correct me if I'm wrong




I wouldn't make that statement as fact myself, although probably not deadly i'm sure some species would give you some bad digestive problems.

And i cant tell you what species, i might even be wrong about it being a gym but from what i have see that orange color is a dead give away

Active Gyms should stain/bruise green and will have a rusty orange print


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Re: Gymnopilus luteocarneus? [Re: oxygen]
    #23727151 - 10/10/16 11:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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oxygen said:
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Dmt_psilocybin said:
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oxygen said:
They are definitely Gyms, same color and the gills/ stem are similar to junonus i have found, they are not junonus though.




Any insight into what species? Alan was probably right about the luteocarneus, but I would like to hear some more opinions to be safe. Although I don't believe there are any poisonous gyms out there. Please correct me if I'm wrong




I wouldn't make that statement as fact myself, although probably not deadly i'm sure some species would give you some bad digestive problems.

And i cant tell you what species, i might even be wrong about it being a gym but from what i have see that orange color is a dead give away

Active Gyms should stain/bruise green and will have a rusty orange print




I will do a spore print and report back in the morning. After I picked them and looked at them awhile later I noticed the caps and gills had some green spots and it almost looks like on the gills and side of caps there's a bluish purple, you can see this in picture #3. Thoughts on what that coloration might be?


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Re: Gymnopilus luteocarneus? [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23727197 - 10/11/16 12:16 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

UPDATE: just had to say a very sad goodbye to my first gym find that were even possibly active. I'm fine with eating a few maggots but these were absolutely infested after I checked back to do the spore print they were crawling all over the paper so I immediately flushed everything as I'm not going to have my house infested with maggots. Very sad yet necessary

However I'm still very interested in what species these are.


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Re: Gymnopilus luteocarneus? [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23727763 - 10/11/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

those maggots would've just died if they didn't have anymore fresh material to eat.  IOW, you don't have to worry about an infestation in the future...you can just put the maggots on a piece of paper towel and they'd desiccate/die pretty quickly.

idk much of anything about the genus but that burnt orange color just looks like dried mushroom material to me (not bruising). :shrug:  see how it's primarily doing it on the thinnest, most easily dried parts first?


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Re: Gymnopilus luteocarneus? [Re: relic]
    #23728047 - 10/11/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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relic said:
those maggots would've just died if they didn't have anymore fresh material to eat.  IOW, you don't have to worry about an infestation in the future...you can just put the maggots on a piece of paper towel and they'd desiccate/die pretty quickly.

idk much of anything about the genus but that burnt orange color just looks like dried mushroom material to me (not bruising). :shrug:  see how it's primarily doing it on the thinnest, most easily dried parts first?




The orange color is the color of the mushroom not the bruising. The bruising would be bluish green color idk what that dark purple/blue color is. They definitely weren't drying through  I had them in a paper bag sealed up for a few hours
Maggots could easily crawl off of that piece of paper into some dark place in my room and than I would have a maggot problem in my house. I just didn't want to risk it.
I gave em a chance to crawl out and I thought they were all out but they would not stop coming.


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Re: Gymnopilus luteocarneus? [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23728131 - 10/11/16 12:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

ok. 

but you're never going to have a maggot infestation caused by bringing mushrooms into your house unless your room is full of fresh organic debris that fungus eating larvae like to eat.  frankly, your ideas about this potential maggot infestation sound sort of like paranoia. (did you know that there are mites living in your eyelashes right now? there are probably both Demodex folliculorum and Demodex brevis creepin around your face while you're reading this)

sorry i couldn't be of more assistance.  GL with your hunts.


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Re: Gymnopilus luteocarneus? [Re: relic]
    #23728182 - 10/11/16 12:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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relic said:
ok. 

but you're never going to have a maggot infestation caused by bringing mushrooms into your house unless your room is full of fresh organic debris that fungus eating larvae like to eat.  frankly, your ideas about this potential maggot infestation sound sort of like paranoia. (did you know that there are mites living in your eyelashes right now? there are probably both Demodex folliculorum and Demodex brevis creepin around your face while you're reading this)

sorry i couldn't be of more assistance.  GL with your hunts.




Yeah it's pretty much paranoia being completely honest. And yeah i know that but nothin ya can do. Just those gross little things crawling around like worms creeps me out and makes me feel like there takin over man.


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