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Aarong
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Is this happening because poor genetics
#23726646 - 10/10/16 09:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have a tub and I had about 30 mush fruits. Im fairly new to this but had previously had a decent flush and a lot of fruits. This time with a different syringe and this tub looks weak. The pins are scattered and the first flush was weak for the size. Is this do to bad genetics? Would I have to iso and refine this strain for a sea of mushrooms?
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NumeroEno
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Re: Is this happening because poor genetics [Re: Aarong] 1
#23726666 - 10/10/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It could be bad genetics, bad conditions, bacteria, or a combination of all 3. A pic would help, but yes, using agar to select and isolate desirable genetics will get you much better results than the MS syringe route.
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Re: Is this happening because poor genetics [Re: NumeroEno]
#23726822 - 10/10/16 09:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You're not giving nearly enough info for us to judge.
Did you fruit immediately, let it colonize, how much spawn to substrate, etc. so many variables that you haven't given info on.
I did MS for a year, and while I had mixed results, by the end of it, I was making canopy flush trays.
You'll learn man. It's ALOT of fun once you learn.
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morty422
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Re: Is this happening because poor genetics [Re: Moabfighter]
#23726931 - 10/10/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moabfighter said: You're not giving nearly enough info for us to judge.
Did you fruit immediately, let it colonize, how much spawn to substrate, etc. so many variables that you haven't given info on.
I did MS for a year, and while I had mixed results, by the end of it, I was making canopy flush trays.
You'll learn man. It's ALOT of fun once you learn.

Need more Nfo!
Also - on the MS canopy! I was all, "Ain't gon' do agar yet - got too many jars" for a while...
I had some beastly MS tubs near the end.
Then I fruited my first clone - and I decided that I was never going back....never!!!
Haha...
OP - Give us more info - we know about 15% what we need to know to point you in the right direction!
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Aarong
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Re: Is this happening because poor genetics [Re: morty422]
#23728083 - 10/11/16 11:51 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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YaMoonSun
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Re: Is this happening because poor genetics [Re: Aarong]
#23728111 - 10/11/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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That yellowing there is metabolites from bacterial contaminate. You'll get a flush or two still though.
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Re: Is this happening because poor genetics [Re: Aarong]
#23728464 - 10/11/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Aarong said:

It's an ugly tub, but it should produce something. Other than the obvious metabolites, the sparse quantity of fruits is an indication that shit went south here. At this point I would suspect a technical issue somewhere in your process, but yes it could be related to genetics. Or both.
I would suspect, in this order: 1) spawn contaminated with bacteria, 2) substrate too wet, 3) genetics.
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Re: Is this happening because poor genetics [Re: freespeech]
#23728471 - 10/11/16 02:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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freespeech said: I would suspect, in this order: 1) spawn contaminated with bacteria, 2) substrate too wet, 3) genetics.
yarp.
im leaning towards bacterial spawn.
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Aarong
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Re: Is this happening because poor genetics [Re: Aarong]
#23729236 - 10/11/16 07:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for the knowledge everyone. I have more colonized grain so ill give it another shot. But as far as metabolites go what's a good way to prevent it? If you have a recommended tek that's beginner friendly I'd be stoked to try it! Thnx again
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YaMoonSun
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Re: Is this happening because poor genetics [Re: Aarong]
#23729245 - 10/11/16 07:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The mycelium does what it can to defend itself, but it take up extra nutrients that could otherwise be used to make mushrooms in the process.
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Re: Is this happening because poor genetics [Re: Aarong]
#23729293 - 10/11/16 07:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Agar to make clean spawn
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Substrate surface conditions / Monotub prep and care
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freespeech
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Re: Is this happening because poor genetics [Re: Aarong]
#23729422 - 10/11/16 08:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Aarong said: Thanks for the knowledge everyone. I have more colonized grain so ill give it another shot. But as far as metabolites go what's a good way to prevent it? If you have a recommended tek that's beginner friendly I'd be stoked to try it! Thnx again
It's a symptom of unhealthy mycelium. Check your sterile technique in creating your grain spawn. Check your spores or whatever source you used to inoculate the grain.
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morty422
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Re: Is this happening because poor genetics [Re: ComebackKid]
#23729915 - 10/11/16 11:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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ComebackKid said: Agar to make clean spawn

Best post I've seen thus far!

OP..... Get into agar - clean up your mycelium - make bacteria your bitch!
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