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Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please
    #23726291 - 10/10/16 07:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

So I chopped up 3g of Mushrooms to boil up, put them in a strainer in a pot with cold water, then had to go out before I boiled them so left them in the water. When I got home the water had turned a very prominent blue, it looked amazing.

So just wondering if this is normal when Magic Mushrooms have sat in COLD water for a while? Assuming it is the Psilocybin but can anyone who has experienced this and has good knowledge tell me if this is normal?

Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: HK666]
    #23726304 - 10/10/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

That probably shouldn't ever happen.

The bluest bruising mushrooms I ever had come out the same color as the less blue ones. 

Mushroom tea is very clear brown, always.

That is not one bit normal.

I am sorry to even imagine some person faking a stash of shrooms.  I have heard of it and seen it first hand.  As insane an impossible as that seems to be.

No the tea doesn't turn blue, ever.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23726310 - 10/10/16 07:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

it's happened to me, dose seemed weak when i drank it


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23726312 - 10/10/16 07:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I've made blue brew before, and it has worked just fine.


Enjoy.

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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Pscientist]
    #23726321 - 10/10/16 07:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I've made blue brew before, and it has worked just fine.


Enjoy.

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That's really weird.  Was there food coloring in there or something?

That's doesn't happen ever.  That's not how the blue color of psychedelic mushrooms even works.  Your tea should never be blue. 

Ever

And seriously though, to act like blue colored tea is some sort of "go-ahead" or a good thing is really irresponsible.  :ooo:


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23726347 - 10/10/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I've made blue brew before, and it has worked just fine.


Enjoy.

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That's really weird.  Was there food coloring in there or something?

That's doesn't happen ever.  That's not how the blue color of psychedelic mushrooms even works.  Your tea should never be blue. 

Ever





It doesn't happen ever you say? Interesting.


Damaged psilocin/psilocybin certainly does turn blue, and oxidation can cause this color change. Furthermore temperature can increase the rates of a chemical reaction (about every 10 degrees doubles the reaction rate as far as I know), so this doesn't seem impossible from a chemical standpoint.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23726355 - 10/10/16 07:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If I saw mushroom tea that was blue I would go ahead and not have any.

That's not how it works with making mushrooms into tea.

All Mushrooms tea is a brown color.  No matter what kind it is.  It is not blue.  It will never turn blue.

Even if it could naturally turn blue for even a second, it would be almost immediately offset and turned brown.  Because youre boiling mushrooms.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Pscientist]
    #23726364 - 10/10/16 07:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I've made blue brew before, and it has worked just fine.


Enjoy.

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That's really weird.  Was there food coloring in there or something?

That's doesn't happen ever.  That's not how the blue color of psychedelic mushrooms even works.  Your tea should never be blue. 

Ever





It doesn't happen ever you say? Interesting.


Damaged psilocin/psilocybin certainly does turn blue, and oxidation can cause this color change. Furthermore temperature can increase the rates of a chemical reaction (about every 10 degrees doubles the reaction rate as far as I know), so this doesn't seem impossible from a chemical standpoint.




Well from experience, I know what color all mushroom tea is.  It is brown.  Never a single hint of blue. 

From a chemical "standpoint", it is brown.  Always.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23726373 - 10/10/16 07:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Why are you freaking out over blue mushroom tea lol. Pretty sure every experienced tripper has made some blue tea before.

Like Psientist said, it basically happens because the temperature was too high which damaged some of the psilocybin. It's still drinkable and you can trip.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Kinshino]
    #23726378 - 10/10/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Interesting, ive never seen shroom tea turn blue either, not once :shrug:


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Spellbound]
    #23726401 - 10/10/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Interesting, ive never seen shroom tea turn blue either, not once :shrug:




That's because you have made tea before I am guessing?

I think some of the people here are not real members of this community of psychedelic users.

It seems strange that I was the first person to pile onto this.  It is not a difficult topic to chime in about.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Kinshino]
    #23726411 - 10/10/16 08:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Why are you freaking out over blue mushroom tea lol. Pretty sure every experienced tripper has made some blue tea before.

Like Psientist said, it basically happens because the temperature was too high which damaged some of the psilocybin. It's still drinkable and you can trip.




Not any of them have.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23726413 - 10/10/16 08:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Ive made shroom tea many a time, but it wasnt blue. And that makes me "not real" :lol:
Maybe it happens i dunno, i havent seen it myself though.

Amanita muscaria tea makes a beautiful colour though :yesnod:


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23726426 - 10/10/16 08:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It's from the psilocin oxidizing. I forget the process, but that's the best theory I've heard, one of the breakdown products is blue. It also is my personal experience that blue = loss of potency. When you extract mushrooms with water, ie make tea, it extracts the phosphitase enzymes which over time will convert your psilocybin to the less stable psilocin. If you boil them it will speed this process up and unless your mushrooms are bunk your water will turn blue. To avoid this add a pinch of ascorbic acid/lemon juice into your tea while doing the extraction next time.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Kinshino]
    #23726449 - 10/10/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Why are you freaking out over blue mushroom tea lol. Pretty sure every experienced tripper has made some blue tea before.

Like Psientist said, it basically happens because the temperature was too high which damaged some of the psilocybin. It's still drinkable and you can trip.




I'm "freaking out" because stupid ideas are dangerous.

No, all psychedelic mushrooms make a brown tea.  You would need to be nothing more than a person who is into cooking to know that.

Did this stupid idea start here or something?  I just wonder because of people actually defending blue mushroom tea.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Spellbound]
    #23726481 - 10/10/16 08:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Ive made shroom tea many a time, but it wasnt blue. And that makes me "not real" :lol:
Maybe it happens i dunno, i havent seen it myself though.

Amanita muscaria tea makes a beautiful colour though :yesnod:




Wait I am confused.

Amanita tea is brown too.  I'm saying it's not blue.  Not saying that it IS blue.  Does that compute?  How the hell did you respond and contribute to my same idea and then end up there?

You dunno?

Well, I do know and mushrooms tea is always brown.  Wanna over cook it in your boiling pot?  Still brown...

The color, is brown.  Nothing anyone comes up with proves that FACT wrong aside from fake fungi and fake drugs in general.

It will actually become more brown the longer you cook it.  It gets very brown and mushroom flavored.  You can destroy your tea most of the way with heat, but it will always make a tasty BROWN soup broth.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23726514 - 10/10/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yh i thought you were arguining it was blue my mistake haha :thumbup: i never saw blue myself anyway as i said. Obv shrooms blue when damaged, but i still havent seen water turning blue tho.

When ive made amanita it is browny yeah, but also has a reddish gold tinge i find lovely :smile: like liquid gold on the surface :laugh:


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion] * 1
    #23726527 - 10/10/16 08:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You guys don't know what you're talking about, mushroom tea is not blue per say, but it certainly can be. If your tea is always brown when you boil it then I would wager to guess that's because the mushrooms are old and contain no psilocin in them, only psilocybin, and the boiling water denatured the phosphitase enzymes before it had a chance to convert the psilocybin to psilocin. If you do not believe me then do exactly what OP did, make some tea at room temp and leave it for a few hours. That should give the enzymes time to work, and if it's not already blue then boiling it should rapidly cause it to be so. If you make tea with boiling water, without something to prevent oxidation such as ascorbic acid, from fresh or well stored mushrooms it will always turn blue. I guarantee you. If your tea does not in fact turn blue from intense boiling then it's a sign that your mushrooms have lost potency quite honestly.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Spellbound]
    #23726532 - 10/10/16 08:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah man, I was not trying to be a jag about it.

You helped make the same point I was trying to make.

That really is not how it works and it creeps me out to hear anyone saying otherwise.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23726541 - 10/10/16 08:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I've been growing mushrooms for over a decade, that's exactly how it works.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: krypto2000]
    #23726546 - 10/10/16 08:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Well i might test it one day when ive spare, ive been drying powdering and capping mine recently though rather than tea. Takes a little longer to work.
Not made shroom tea in a long time. Maybe i will if ever locate some libs this season :laugh:


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: krypto2000]
    #23726561 - 10/10/16 08:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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You guys don't know what you're talking about, mushroom tea is not blue per say, but it certainly can be. If your tea is always brown when you boil it then I would wager to guess that's because the mushrooms are old and contain no psilocin in them, only psilocybin, and the boiling water denatured the phosphitase enzymes before it had a chance to convert the psilocybin to psilocin. If you do not believe me then do exactly what OP did, make some tea at room temp and leave it for a few hours. That should give the enzymes time to work, and if it's not already blue then boiling it should rapidly cause it to be so. If you make tea with boiling water, without something to prevent oxidation such as ascorbic acid, from fresh or well stored mushrooms it will always turn blue. I guarantee you. If your tea does not in fact turn blue from intense boiling then it's a sign that your mushrooms have lost potency quite honestly.




Not anyone who has ever made mushroom tea says this shit though.

And that's a really full of shit response.  Even contradicts earlier full-of-shit posts which say cooking it too long makes it blue.

All mushroom tea is brown, and it fucks all people up royally.  It never turns blue and I don't know who you are pretending to be but I don't like it. 

Just bad thoughts and ideas man, with lots of fancy bullshit that holds no water at ALL.

Very strange.

Anyone who ever grew mushrooms has the same color tea.  Anyone who found them in the wild, regardless of species, makes a brown tea also.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23726592 - 10/10/16 08:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If someone offers you blue "mushroom tea".  Don't drink it.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23726634 - 10/10/16 08:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Did people think that even the bluest mushrooms were gonna turn your water blue?

It doesn't really happen at all, ever.  You can try, it wont happen and I don't know what the hell these people are going on about with the blue tea.

If you low-boil some super potent shrooms, it will make a brown broth.  You high boil those same shrooms they will make an even more brown tea and make for a good mushroomy soup.

Never blue for any good reason.  As I said, any good cook would understand this.  It comes out brown, not some fascinating blue color.  It remains brown.  You think a few mgs of a drug is going to turn your pot blue?  No, what will color the pot is the mushrooms.  Which makes all this talk VERY suspect.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23726651 - 10/10/16 09:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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You guys don't know what you're talking about, mushroom tea is not blue per say, but it certainly can be. If your tea is always brown when you boil it then I would wager to guess that's because the mushrooms are old and contain no psilocin in them, only psilocybin, and the boiling water denatured the phosphitase enzymes before it had a chance to convert the psilocybin to psilocin. If you do not believe me then do exactly what OP did, make some tea at room temp and leave it for a few hours. That should give the enzymes time to work, and if it's not already blue then boiling it should rapidly cause it to be so. If you make tea with boiling water, without something to prevent oxidation such as ascorbic acid, from fresh or well stored mushrooms it will always turn blue. I guarantee you. If your tea does not in fact turn blue from intense boiling then it's a sign that your mushrooms have lost potency quite honestly.




Not anyone who has ever made mushroom tea says this shit though.

And that's a really full of shit response.  Even contradicts earlier full-of-shit posts which say cooking it too long makes it blue.

All mushroom tea is brown, and it fucks all people up royally.  It never turns blue and I don't know who you are pretending to be but I don't like it. 

Just bad thoughts and ideas man, with lots of fancy bullshit that holds no water at ALL.

Very strange.

Anyone who ever grew mushrooms has the same color tea.  Anyone who found them in the wild, regardless of species, makes a brown tea also.




Everyone who has grown mushrooms or found them in the wild gets brown tea? Did you do a search on this or anything or have you never encountered it?

This guy asks why his tea is blue. If you read what he says the explanation goes hand in hand with what I said and OP of this thread. He made an extract into ethanol and let it sit for awhile, turns blue. The only person to reply even says it oxidized. OP disagreed, and he is right, psilocybin does not oxidize into a blue breakdown product, but psilocin does.

Here is a thread full of people talking about blue tea. The OP of that thread used a fresh mushroom, hence more psilocin, probably more phosphatase as well.

Here is another, someone mentions oxidation and potency loss. I'm not reading all of these, but here's some more. There's others too if you do a search.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7659328

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4515544

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12488430

Here's a video. :bananadance: :shrug:

Tell me tea doesn't blue again. :learyharvard:


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23726726 - 10/10/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Not any mushrooms I ever seen, and I've seen lots of kinda of mushrooms.

A few mgs of blue at MOST, will never turn a pot of mushrooms tea green or blue.  That is not how science works.  People can claim it all they want.  That doesn't make it a reality.

Seriously, you need to tell me how a few mgs of actives are gonna change a whole pot of tea blue.  I mean seriously, if it is any sort of thorough extract?  I know it doesn't happen, but tell me how that happens.  How does a few mgs worth of "supposed" color overpower the color of the plant matter?  How does that work in your universe?

I bet people can make mushroom extracts blue.  I wonder why this is accepted as normal for any sort of a tea a normal person was trying to make.

That's right.  Mushroom tea is brown.  The best kind of mushroom tea is always brown.  Every single fucking time, it will be brown unless you fucked with it in all sorts of weird ways, that would allow the few mgs of psi make yer pot blue?  It's not happening under any sort of fun with friends mushroom tea scenario.  No matter how good or bad at it you are.  Because that's not how it works.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23726746 - 10/10/16 09:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

How much brown crap is in your mushrooms? If I use mushrooms that have no spores on them the tea has a slight yellow/brown ting to it. This is with ground mushrooms and multiple steepings. There's not that much brown in mushrooms. If your tea is dark it might be the blue and/or spores mixing with the brown. I've made an ounce of mushrooms into just a few cups of water or less and it was a clear amber/honey color.

The best kind of mushroom tea is brown, I agree. I've agreed the whole time with that. Have you ever made tea from fresh mushrooms? If not then you'll likely not see your product oxidize.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: krypto2000]
    #23726756 - 10/10/16 09:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Iv been making tea for YEARS now....
I usually make my tea from fresh picks of cubes.
If I let them steep in lemon for a bit, you can still see oxidation.
But the tea itself is always DARKDARK brown when making big batches.
Lightish drown from smaller batches(5-12gs) dried.

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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: krypto2000]
    #23726763 - 10/10/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It's just plant matter, and as far as color goes, it overpowers the few mgs of actives immediately almost.  Like in 1 minute after lightly boiling even.  That's how boiling your psychoactive plants works.  They don't change magical colors that were not there before.  Your tea is a soup of organic plant material and actives you wished would turn blue I guess.

They Don't turn blue, and I think a few people got the internet stirring about stupid and unfounded ideas again.  Not a surprise


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    #23726765 - 10/10/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Iv been making tea for YEARS now....
I usually make my tea from fresh picks of cubes.
If I let them steep in lemon for a bit, you can still see oxidation.
But the tea itself is always DARKDARK brown when making big batches.
Lightish drown from smaller batches(5-12gs) dried.

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    #23726784 - 10/10/16 09:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23726811 - 10/10/16 09:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Cheers to the next person to come up with more of this "DIY blue mushroom tea"!

It would be so dank.  As much as that is not how it works, wouldn't it be so coooool

Blue mushroom tea with a drone, and a pool full of pespi for us to jump in while the world laughs at how stupid westerners are!

Blue mushroom tea, doesn't happen but we can MAKE IT HAPPEN!


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: FeedYerHead]
    #23726812 - 10/10/16 09:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Iv been making tea for YEARS now....
I usually make my tea from fresh picks of cubes.
If I let them steep in lemon for a bit, you can still see oxidation.
But the tea itself is always DARKDARK brown when making big batches.
Lightish drown from smaller batches(5-12gs) dried.

Just my 2cents.




You're probably right about the dark color, I forgot that I've been using a leucistic strain for awhile now. Regardless what I say is true, there's even a video of it happening and reason enough to back it up. Are you guys actually arguing that the OP here being sold bunk mushrooms with blue dye is a more likely possibility than an experience that numerous others report and is backed up with an explanation as to why? He even left it out for an extended period of time.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: HK666]
    #23726829 - 10/10/16 09:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Ok, so did anyone actually read that it went blue from SITTING in COLD water. Maybe the title of the post is what caused the confusion but it was not the boiling/making of tea process that turned it blue. Once boiling began it went brown as usual.

So has anyone let mushrooms sit in cold water before and had the water turn blue?


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    #23726857 - 10/10/16 10:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I personally think anyone with blue mushroom tea needs to find a new "dealer", because as I have said a few times, this is and has never been how it works, ever.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: HK666]
    #23726874 - 10/10/16 10:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Did you read my post? It happens because of the enzymes that are in the tea. Not boiling it is probably why you noticed the blueing w/o much brown. Psilocybin is very water soluble and easy to extract, as are the enzymes. Thus not much of your brown colored compounds were extracted, your psilocybin and enzymes were, they were converted to psilocin and then oxidized. I've provided plenty of links showing this. You're not likely to find an example of cold tea being left out for an extended period of time going blue because people don't make tea and let it sit out for awhile. The first example link I provided is a guy who made an alcohol tincture, I think put it in the fridge, and then over time it turned blue.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: krypto2000]
    #23727038 - 10/10/16 10:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, thank you krypto2000, your replies are much appreciated. Reading through the rest of the other posts just drained my attention. Yours were the only helpful ones. Thanks again.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23727072 - 10/10/16 11:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Please dont take this the wrong way punchfacechampion, as I am genuinely curious to know, but why do you bother making posts that have nothing constructive or positive to contribute to the thread?


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: HK666]
    #23727261 - 10/11/16 12:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Because mushroom tea will always be brown.  Know that.

Sorry to offend.  I'm sorry you missed the point I was getting at or whatever your deficiency might be.

Mushroom tea is brown, and I am sorry for this community if others feel I was wasting their time like you do apparently.  I can't stand the idea that some people think mushroom tea is ever blue.  It never has been or will be blue, and people saying otherwise irritates me to my soul.  To hear people say things like that really weirds me out. 

I just don't know where anyone is coming from any more.  It is sad.

Check your mushroom tea and see how blue it is next time.  It wont be.  I feel like I slipped into a wormhole of twitter and facebook posts.

Whatever has become of you people, god help you in your search for truth, or twitters or whatever. 

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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: krypto2000]
    #23727271 - 10/11/16 01:08 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I've been growing mushrooms for over a decade, that's exactly how it works.




OHHHHH  I think yer not honest then.

No blue mushroom tea.  Not for you and not for anyone else.

Do you like that?  Everyone is a specialist and to think you can fake it!

Nope


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23727274 - 10/11/16 01:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Lets keep this blue tea idea going though.  What's next about it?

You got some blue tea you just made or something.

That's all I was saying.  No you don't have some blue tea for any good reason.

Not a chance.  And if you lie about it people will know it. 

I was talking about blue mushroom tea.  Steeped or even overcooked mushrooms also make a brown tea.  No reason it should ever be blue.  This will always be true.  Sorry bout that.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23727293 - 10/11/16 01:26 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

"My shrooms are so heady they turned the tea blue"

The strongest shrooms of all different species turn water brown as fuck.

Sorry that the "blue tea" thing offended me and my idea of how discerning people are when reading complete bullshit.  Bullshit that does not belong here probably.  Most people here have made tea.  It was brown every damned time.  To read some of this absolute drivel made me wonder for a split second or less.  It's the color brown.  Always.

Imagine 12 mgs of psi floating around in a tea.  It's not gonna make it blue especially when it's all full of all that wonderful mushroomy-ness.

It's not some kind of whacked out plant-based food coloring.  That is actually unheard of.  I don't care how you claim to have made a blue tea from good mushrooms.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: HK666]
    #23727313 - 10/11/16 01:49 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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So I chopped up 3g of Mushrooms to boil up, put them in a strainer in a pot with cold water, then had to go out before I boiled them so left them in the water. When I got home the water had turned a very prominent blue, it looked amazing.

So just wondering if this is normal when Magic Mushrooms have sat in COLD water for a while? Assuming it is the Psilocybin but can anyone who has experienced this and has good knowledge tell me if this is normal?

Any help would be appreciated.
Cheers




No that's not at all normal.  The identification forum might help and disrespect you further.

Sorry for being a drag on your blue mushroom tea and other weird shit.

I think we have some fake people around here.  People who are here to weird people out.  Giving dangerous information and such.

Have fun with blue mushroom tea and fake threads.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23727408 - 10/11/16 04:59 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I cannot remember when I made a tea with cubes, but with sclerotia(truffles), I do remember having blue tinted water.


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    #23727667 - 10/11/16 08:44 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Because the sun will always orbit the earth.  Know that.

Sorry to offend.  I'm sorry you missed the point I was getting at or whatever your deficiency might be.

The sun orbits the earth, and I am sorry for this community if others feel I was wasting their time like you do apparently.  I can't stand the idea that some people think the earth orbits the sun.  It never has been or will be heliocentric, and people saying otherwise irritates me to my soul.  To hear people say things like that really weirds me out. 

I just don't know where anyone is coming from any more.  It is sad.

Check your ground and see how it rotates next time.  It wont be.  I feel like I slipped into a wormhole of twitter and facebook posts.

Whatever has become of you people, god help you in your search for truth, or twitters or whatever. 

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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23728512 - 10/11/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

'Because mushroom tea will always be brown.  Know that.

Sorry to offend.  I'm sorry you missed the point I was getting at or whatever your deficiency might be.

Mushroom tea is brown, and I am sorry for this community if others feel I was wasting their time like you do apparently.  I can't stand the idea that some people think mushroom tea is ever blue.  It never has been or will be blue, and people saying otherwise irritates me to my soul.  To hear people say things like that really weirds me out.

I just don't know where anyone is coming from any more.  It is sad.

Check your mushroom tea and see how blue it is next time.  It wont be.' - punchfacechampion

You didnt offend me and I dont think I missed your point, but I am also curious to know why you are suggesting I might have a 'deficiency'?

Im not sure if you understood what I was saying but the mushrooms were sitting in cold water before I boiled them. The water turned blue in cold water before boiling, not after. And yes the tea changed colour once it boiled and remained that colour. I hadnt said that the mushroom tea was blue.

So do you understand that it was the mushrooms sitting in cold water before being boiled that turned the water blue?


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: HK666]
    #23728574 - 10/11/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Punchfacechampion, dude, have you seen how fucking blue some of the mexican type psilocybes look when fresh? I'm not talking about dried cubes here, But what about mushrooms like Psilocybe Zapotecorum, Psilocybe Caerulescens, Psilocybe mexicana even.

To say that mushroom tea will never have a tinge of blue is fucking stupid,
I've never made tea myself but I could totally see it happening with some of the caerulescens I pick,
Check out this video with mexicans brewing a tea from Psilocybe zapotecorum, I seriously doubt these mexicans added food coloring to their water but I guess it's possible in some attempt to make their tea look cooler :shrug:


Even a quick google search for "shroom tea" will show sometimes it can be bluish, mushrooms come in many different colors and will make teas of many different colors. You seriously need to quit acting like you know everything man, just because your personal experience is different does not mean something could never happen ever.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Xiliad]
    #23728639 - 10/11/16 03:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

cool, they're even using derrumbes in that video which is mexican for caerulescens.

oh hey, Check this out, look at that third picture he posts, see how the water starts out blueish, then after a while of boiling turns darker into a brown color? I'm pretty sure this is what OP is talking about.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12494141#12494141

Seriously dude, get out of your own head. You're honestly going to sit here and basically call people retarded and discount their experiences because you've never seen it yourself? :lol:


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Xiliad]
    #23728683 - 10/11/16 03:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Next time i have fresh ones im gonna get some cold water and pop a few in and film it, and see if goes blue for me.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Spellbound]
    #23728698 - 10/11/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It might,  it might not,  I think it honestly depends on how strong the bruising is and how quickly the oxidized psilocybin agent that causes the blue color is able to steep into the water, it probably won't hold that color though.


Yeah most Mushroom tea is brown, but I've seen a lot of pics of tea being clear blue especially when ALOT of strongly bruised mushrooms are added to a smaller amount of water.

He'll I've had my hands stain blue after handling hundreds of caerulescens,  I've seen a drunk guy shovel a shit ton in his mouth and have blue drool running down his face,  sure mushrooms don't typically make your drool blue, but that doesn't mean his drool wasn't more Mushroom than drool of you know what I mean


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Xiliad]
    #23728769 - 10/11/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I do believe the oxidized product is fairly stable and will not go away for awhile.


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    #23728771 - 10/11/16 04:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It's what a lot of mushroom tea will look like dude, blue is a completely normal color.



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    #23728977 - 10/11/16 05:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Ok, so did anyone actually read that it went blue from SITTING in COLD water. Maybe the title of the post is what caused the confusion but it was not the boiling/making of tea process that turned it blue. Once boiling began it went brown as usual.

So has anyone let mushrooms sit in cold water before and had the water turn blue?


i have done this, with mushrooms i grew myself, and the water turned blue.  cracker dry shrooms in cold water for a few hours

this other know it all guy is just being an asshat.


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    #23728993 - 10/11/16 05:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

the punchdickface guy has to be trolling.  that or he's too embarrassed to admit he didn't actually read the OP closely and own up to it when it was 'splained to him


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    #23729322 - 10/11/16 07:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Fuck yeah,  that is sooooo cool looking.  So was that made by you with dry cubes?

LOL I fucking love it.  This dude was soooo sure of himself and being such a dick and now won't even reply cause he just totally got proven wrong with pics, a video, and explanations.

I've never made tea so I got no first hand experience, but I had a hunch that you could easily get blue water from good shrooms and it took one Google search to see. I seriously doubt this dude was trolling, it seems like he was just being an arrogant dick face,  especially since he's not replying now. He was just so certain he couldn't be wrong cause all his brew turns out brown :lol:


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Spellbound]
    #23729377 - 10/11/16 08:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I wish I took a photo of it, the colour looked so awesome. They were fully dried out P.subaueroginosa that sat in the water for about half an hour or more. Could occur the same with fresh though.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: HK666]
    #23729393 - 10/11/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Ive honestly never seen it, but ive only thrown em into warm or hot water, ill try with cold though id like to see if turns blue for me haha need fresh shrooms first though lol.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Spellbound]
    #23729407 - 10/11/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I've never had blue tea and I've used fresh mushies once.

I've never used cold water, that may be the key although I watched the video of the guy in Oaxaca Mexico and he brewed the shrooms and it turned the water blue. They also weren't cubes either so go figure.

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    #23730283 - 10/12/16 06:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

there's a thread somewhere here of a guy using a surplus of shrooms to dye one of his t-shirts blue


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    #23730320 - 10/12/16 06:36 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I have made mush cider many times, and there is always a blue hue to it. Usually at the top between the surface and where the cider starts. Never had an issue, always strong as hell. Not sure why everybody is freaking out, lol!


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    #23730346 - 10/12/16 07:06 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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It's what a lot of mushroom tea will look like dude, blue is a completely normal color.





LOOK AT IT, FUCKING LOOK AT IT. Pretty sure you're trolling but still, evidence.


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    #23731300 - 10/12/16 01:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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turn blue. To avoid this add a pinch of ascorbic acid/lemon juice into your tea while doing the extraction next time.



Mine is never blue because I always have lemon juice in the water.  I've definitely heard of blue tea from oxidizing though.

All of this talk of blue and brown tea, pshhh.  My last batch was jet black! I did use some tea bags in it that added color. I think I kind of overdid it though and used too many shroomies.  It had everybody tripping balls off of a small amount, and about half of the people who tried it threw up violently.  That's why I named it death juice.


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    #23731692 - 10/12/16 04:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I was saying that nobody is freaking out, as opposed to "everyone freaking out".

There is nothing blue about that shit.  People need to make that as well understood as possible.

I have puked up blue shit, but only because I was hallucinating heavily for days.  I get the feeling that I know where these claims come from.

Mushroom tea is always brown.  It always is.


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    #23731699 - 10/12/16 04:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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turn blue. To avoid this add a pinch of ascorbic acid/lemon juice into your tea while doing the extraction next time.



Mine is never blue because I always have lemon juice in the water.  I've definitely heard of blue tea from oxidizing though.






Yea...if lemon juice or anything with ascorbic acid is used in the tea, it's not going to turn blue.




I didn't read every post in the thread, just skimmed through it...but thought I'd chime in with my 2 cents.

When ever I brew up my mushroom tea it always turns out with a clear golden/brown color....but!!....

....The times I've left a little bit of tea in the bottom of the cup sitting out for just a few hours, it always turns a beautiful blue color. I've seen this happen several times over the years when ever I've left a bit of tea sitting out/exposed (tea that had no lemon juice in it).



This blue color in mushroom tea can be seen at around 2:50 in this video...








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    #23731716 - 10/12/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I was saying that nobody is freaking out, as opposed to "everyone freaking out".

There is nothing blue about that shit.  People need to make that as well understood as possible.

I have puked up blue shit, but only because I was hallucinating heavily for days.  I get the feeling that I know where these claims come from.

Mushroom tea is always brown.  It always is.




Just to be clear, you're saying that when you look at this:

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It's what a lot of mushroom tea will look like dude, blue is a completely normal color.






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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23731841 - 10/12/16 04:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Punchfacechampion said:
I was saying that nobody is freaking out, as opposed to "everyone freaking out".

There is nothing blue about that shit.  People need to make that as well understood as possible.

I have puked up blue shit, but only because I was hallucinating heavily for days.  I get the feeling that I know where these claims come from.

Mushroom tea is always brown.  It always is.






Delusion must suck.

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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Pscientist]
    #23732298 - 10/12/16 07:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

He may be legitimately color blind :lol:


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23732427 - 10/12/16 08:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)



Don't attempt to fly jets, bro.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23732465 - 10/12/16 08:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Smurfs are brown too man, so is the cookie monster. Thats just how it works. End of story. The end. Of the story. ...

:smurf:  :cookiemonster:

I bet you're one of those, the dress is brown and black types aren't you.

And you probably asked your parents why the sky is brown too.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Pscientist]
    #23732652 - 10/12/16 09:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

never seen that before. maybe a product of boiling for a long time?


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