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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: krypto2000]
#23726546 - 10/10/16 08:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well i might test it one day when ive spare, ive been drying powdering and capping mine recently though rather than tea. Takes a little longer to work. Not made shroom tea in a long time. Maybe i will if ever locate some libs this season
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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: krypto2000]
#23726561 - 10/10/16 08:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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krypto2000 said: You guys don't know what you're talking about, mushroom tea is not blue per say, but it certainly can be. If your tea is always brown when you boil it then I would wager to guess that's because the mushrooms are old and contain no psilocin in them, only psilocybin, and the boiling water denatured the phosphitase enzymes before it had a chance to convert the psilocybin to psilocin. If you do not believe me then do exactly what OP did, make some tea at room temp and leave it for a few hours. That should give the enzymes time to work, and if it's not already blue then boiling it should rapidly cause it to be so. If you make tea with boiling water, without something to prevent oxidation such as ascorbic acid, from fresh or well stored mushrooms it will always turn blue. I guarantee you. If your tea does not in fact turn blue from intense boiling then it's a sign that your mushrooms have lost potency quite honestly.
Not anyone who has ever made mushroom tea says this shit though.
And that's a really full of shit response. Even contradicts earlier full-of-shit posts which say cooking it too long makes it blue.
All mushroom tea is brown, and it fucks all people up royally. It never turns blue and I don't know who you are pretending to be but I don't like it.
Just bad thoughts and ideas man, with lots of fancy bullshit that holds no water at ALL.
Very strange.
Anyone who ever grew mushrooms has the same color tea. Anyone who found them in the wild, regardless of species, makes a brown tea also.
Edited by Punchfacechampion (10/10/16 08:44 PM)
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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
#23726592 - 10/10/16 08:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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If someone offers you blue "mushroom tea". Don't drink it.
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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
#23726634 - 10/10/16 08:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Did people think that even the bluest mushrooms were gonna turn your water blue?
It doesn't really happen at all, ever. You can try, it wont happen and I don't know what the hell these people are going on about with the blue tea.
If you low-boil some super potent shrooms, it will make a brown broth. You high boil those same shrooms they will make an even more brown tea and make for a good mushroomy soup.
Never blue for any good reason. As I said, any good cook would understand this. It comes out brown, not some fascinating blue color. It remains brown. You think a few mgs of a drug is going to turn your pot blue? No, what will color the pot is the mushrooms. Which makes all this talk VERY suspect.
Edited by Punchfacechampion (10/10/16 09:00 PM)
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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
#23726651 - 10/10/16 09:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Punchfacechampion said:
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krypto2000 said: You guys don't know what you're talking about, mushroom tea is not blue per say, but it certainly can be. If your tea is always brown when you boil it then I would wager to guess that's because the mushrooms are old and contain no psilocin in them, only psilocybin, and the boiling water denatured the phosphitase enzymes before it had a chance to convert the psilocybin to psilocin. If you do not believe me then do exactly what OP did, make some tea at room temp and leave it for a few hours. That should give the enzymes time to work, and if it's not already blue then boiling it should rapidly cause it to be so. If you make tea with boiling water, without something to prevent oxidation such as ascorbic acid, from fresh or well stored mushrooms it will always turn blue. I guarantee you. If your tea does not in fact turn blue from intense boiling then it's a sign that your mushrooms have lost potency quite honestly.
Not anyone who has ever made mushroom tea says this shit though.
And that's a really full of shit response. Even contradicts earlier full-of-shit posts which say cooking it too long makes it blue.
All mushroom tea is brown, and it fucks all people up royally. It never turns blue and I don't know who you are pretending to be but I don't like it.
Just bad thoughts and ideas man, with lots of fancy bullshit that holds no water at ALL.
Very strange.
Anyone who ever grew mushrooms has the same color tea. Anyone who found them in the wild, regardless of species, makes a brown tea also.
Everyone who has grown mushrooms or found them in the wild gets brown tea? Did you do a search on this or anything or have you never encountered it?
This guy asks why his tea is blue. If you read what he says the explanation goes hand in hand with what I said and OP of this thread. He made an extract into ethanol and let it sit for awhile, turns blue. The only person to reply even says it oxidized. OP disagreed, and he is right, psilocybin does not oxidize into a blue breakdown product, but psilocin does.
Here is a thread full of people talking about blue tea. The OP of that thread used a fresh mushroom, hence more psilocin, probably more phosphatase as well.
Here is another, someone mentions oxidation and potency loss. I'm not reading all of these, but here's some more. There's others too if you do a search.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7659328
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4515544
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12488430
Here's a video. 
Tell me tea doesn't blue again.
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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
#23726726 - 10/10/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not any mushrooms I ever seen, and I've seen lots of kinda of mushrooms.
A few mgs of blue at MOST, will never turn a pot of mushrooms tea green or blue. That is not how science works. People can claim it all they want. That doesn't make it a reality.
Seriously, you need to tell me how a few mgs of actives are gonna change a whole pot of tea blue. I mean seriously, if it is any sort of thorough extract? I know it doesn't happen, but tell me how that happens. How does a few mgs worth of "supposed" color overpower the color of the plant matter? How does that work in your universe?
I bet people can make mushroom extracts blue. I wonder why this is accepted as normal for any sort of a tea a normal person was trying to make.
That's right. Mushroom tea is brown. The best kind of mushroom tea is always brown. Every single fucking time, it will be brown unless you fucked with it in all sorts of weird ways, that would allow the few mgs of psi make yer pot blue? It's not happening under any sort of fun with friends mushroom tea scenario. No matter how good or bad at it you are. Because that's not how it works.
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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
#23726746 - 10/10/16 09:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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How much brown crap is in your mushrooms? If I use mushrooms that have no spores on them the tea has a slight yellow/brown ting to it. This is with ground mushrooms and multiple steepings. There's not that much brown in mushrooms. If your tea is dark it might be the blue and/or spores mixing with the brown. I've made an ounce of mushrooms into just a few cups of water or less and it was a clear amber/honey color.
The best kind of mushroom tea is brown, I agree. I've agreed the whole time with that. Have you ever made tea from fresh mushrooms? If not then you'll likely not see your product oxidize.
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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: krypto2000]
#23726756 - 10/10/16 09:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Iv been making tea for YEARS now.... I usually make my tea from fresh picks of cubes. If I let them steep in lemon for a bit, you can still see oxidation. But the tea itself is always DARKDARK brown when making big batches. Lightish drown from smaller batches(5-12gs) dried.
Just my 2cents.
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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: krypto2000]
#23726763 - 10/10/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's just plant matter, and as far as color goes, it overpowers the few mgs of actives immediately almost. Like in 1 minute after lightly boiling even. That's how boiling your psychoactive plants works. They don't change magical colors that were not there before. Your tea is a soup of organic plant material and actives you wished would turn blue I guess.
They Don't turn blue, and I think a few people got the internet stirring about stupid and unfounded ideas again. Not a surprise
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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: FeedYerHead]
#23726765 - 10/10/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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FeedYerHead said: Iv been making tea for YEARS now.... I usually make my tea from fresh picks of cubes. If I let them steep in lemon for a bit, you can still see oxidation. But the tea itself is always DARKDARK brown when making big batches. Lightish drown from smaller batches(5-12gs) dried.
Just my 2cents.
And because this guy is not here to feed people bullshit
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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
#23726784 - 10/10/16 09:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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to feed people bullshit
Kek no pun intended...
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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
#23726811 - 10/10/16 09:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cheers to the next person to come up with more of this "DIY blue mushroom tea"!
It would be so dank. As much as that is not how it works, wouldn't it be so coooool
Blue mushroom tea with a drone, and a pool full of pespi for us to jump in while the world laughs at how stupid westerners are!
Blue mushroom tea, doesn't happen but we can MAKE IT HAPPEN!
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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: FeedYerHead]
#23726812 - 10/10/16 09:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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FeedYerHead said: Iv been making tea for YEARS now.... I usually make my tea from fresh picks of cubes. If I let them steep in lemon for a bit, you can still see oxidation. But the tea itself is always DARKDARK brown when making big batches. Lightish drown from smaller batches(5-12gs) dried.
Just my 2cents.
You're probably right about the dark color, I forgot that I've been using a leucistic strain for awhile now. Regardless what I say is true, there's even a video of it happening and reason enough to back it up. Are you guys actually arguing that the OP here being sold bunk mushrooms with blue dye is a more likely possibility than an experience that numerous others report and is backed up with an explanation as to why? He even left it out for an extended period of time.
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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: HK666]
#23726829 - 10/10/16 09:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok, so did anyone actually read that it went blue from SITTING in COLD water. Maybe the title of the post is what caused the confusion but it was not the boiling/making of tea process that turned it blue. Once boiling began it went brown as usual.
So has anyone let mushrooms sit in cold water before and had the water turn blue?
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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: krypto2000]
#23726857 - 10/10/16 10:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I personally think anyone with blue mushroom tea needs to find a new "dealer", because as I have said a few times, this is and has never been how it works, ever.
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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: HK666]
#23726874 - 10/10/16 10:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Did you read my post? It happens because of the enzymes that are in the tea. Not boiling it is probably why you noticed the blueing w/o much brown. Psilocybin is very water soluble and easy to extract, as are the enzymes. Thus not much of your brown colored compounds were extracted, your psilocybin and enzymes were, they were converted to psilocin and then oxidized. I've provided plenty of links showing this. You're not likely to find an example of cold tea being left out for an extended period of time going blue because people don't make tea and let it sit out for awhile. The first example link I provided is a guy who made an alcohol tincture, I think put it in the fridge, and then over time it turned blue.
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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: krypto2000]
#23727038 - 10/10/16 10:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes, thank you krypto2000, your replies are much appreciated. Reading through the rest of the other posts just drained my attention. Yours were the only helpful ones. Thanks again.
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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
#23727072 - 10/10/16 11:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Please dont take this the wrong way punchfacechampion, as I am genuinely curious to know, but why do you bother making posts that have nothing constructive or positive to contribute to the thread?
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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: HK666]
#23727261 - 10/11/16 12:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Because mushroom tea will always be brown. Know that.
Sorry to offend. I'm sorry you missed the point I was getting at or whatever your deficiency might be.
Mushroom tea is brown, and I am sorry for this community if others feel I was wasting their time like you do apparently. I can't stand the idea that some people think mushroom tea is ever blue. It never has been or will be blue, and people saying otherwise irritates me to my soul. To hear people say things like that really weirds me out.
I just don't know where anyone is coming from any more. It is sad.
Check your mushroom tea and see how blue it is next time. It wont be. I feel like I slipped into a wormhole of twitter and facebook posts.
Whatever has become of you people, god help you in your search for truth, or twitters or whatever.
-Punchfacechampion
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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: krypto2000]
#23727271 - 10/11/16 01:08 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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krypto2000 said: I've been growing mushrooms for over a decade, that's exactly how it works.
OHHHHH I think yer not honest then.
No blue mushroom tea. Not for you and not for anyone else.
Do you like that? Everyone is a specialist and to think you can fake it!
Nope
Edited by Punchfacechampion (10/11/16 01:10 AM)
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