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Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please
    #23726291 - 10/10/16 07:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

So I chopped up 3g of Mushrooms to boil up, put them in a strainer in a pot with cold water, then had to go out before I boiled them so left them in the water. When I got home the water had turned a very prominent blue, it looked amazing.

So just wondering if this is normal when Magic Mushrooms have sat in COLD water for a while? Assuming it is the Psilocybin but can anyone who has experienced this and has good knowledge tell me if this is normal?

Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: HK666]
    #23726304 - 10/10/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

That probably shouldn't ever happen.

The bluest bruising mushrooms I ever had come out the same color as the less blue ones. 

Mushroom tea is very clear brown, always.

That is not one bit normal.

I am sorry to even imagine some person faking a stash of shrooms.  I have heard of it and seen it first hand.  As insane an impossible as that seems to be.

No the tea doesn't turn blue, ever.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23726310 - 10/10/16 07:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

it's happened to me, dose seemed weak when i drank it


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23726312 - 10/10/16 07:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I've made blue brew before, and it has worked just fine.


Enjoy.

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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Pscientist]
    #23726321 - 10/10/16 07:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I've made blue brew before, and it has worked just fine.


Enjoy.

:awecid:




That's really weird.  Was there food coloring in there or something?

That's doesn't happen ever.  That's not how the blue color of psychedelic mushrooms even works.  Your tea should never be blue. 

Ever

And seriously though, to act like blue colored tea is some sort of "go-ahead" or a good thing is really irresponsible.  :ooo:


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23726347 - 10/10/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Pscientist said:
I've made blue brew before, and it has worked just fine.


Enjoy.

:awecid:




That's really weird.  Was there food coloring in there or something?

That's doesn't happen ever.  That's not how the blue color of psychedelic mushrooms even works.  Your tea should never be blue. 

Ever





It doesn't happen ever you say? Interesting.


Damaged psilocin/psilocybin certainly does turn blue, and oxidation can cause this color change. Furthermore temperature can increase the rates of a chemical reaction (about every 10 degrees doubles the reaction rate as far as I know), so this doesn't seem impossible from a chemical standpoint.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23726355 - 10/10/16 07:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If I saw mushroom tea that was blue I would go ahead and not have any.

That's not how it works with making mushrooms into tea.

All Mushrooms tea is a brown color.  No matter what kind it is.  It is not blue.  It will never turn blue.

Even if it could naturally turn blue for even a second, it would be almost immediately offset and turned brown.  Because youre boiling mushrooms.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Pscientist]
    #23726364 - 10/10/16 07:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Pscientist said:
I've made blue brew before, and it has worked just fine.


Enjoy.

:awecid:




That's really weird.  Was there food coloring in there or something?

That's doesn't happen ever.  That's not how the blue color of psychedelic mushrooms even works.  Your tea should never be blue. 

Ever





It doesn't happen ever you say? Interesting.


Damaged psilocin/psilocybin certainly does turn blue, and oxidation can cause this color change. Furthermore temperature can increase the rates of a chemical reaction (about every 10 degrees doubles the reaction rate as far as I know), so this doesn't seem impossible from a chemical standpoint.




Well from experience, I know what color all mushroom tea is.  It is brown.  Never a single hint of blue. 

From a chemical "standpoint", it is brown.  Always.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23726373 - 10/10/16 07:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Why are you freaking out over blue mushroom tea lol. Pretty sure every experienced tripper has made some blue tea before.

Like Psientist said, it basically happens because the temperature was too high which damaged some of the psilocybin. It's still drinkable and you can trip.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Kinshino]
    #23726378 - 10/10/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Interesting, ive never seen shroom tea turn blue either, not once :shrug:


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Spellbound]
    #23726401 - 10/10/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Interesting, ive never seen shroom tea turn blue either, not once :shrug:




That's because you have made tea before I am guessing?

I think some of the people here are not real members of this community of psychedelic users.

It seems strange that I was the first person to pile onto this.  It is not a difficult topic to chime in about.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Kinshino]
    #23726411 - 10/10/16 08:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Why are you freaking out over blue mushroom tea lol. Pretty sure every experienced tripper has made some blue tea before.

Like Psientist said, it basically happens because the temperature was too high which damaged some of the psilocybin. It's still drinkable and you can trip.




Not any of them have.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23726413 - 10/10/16 08:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Ive made shroom tea many a time, but it wasnt blue. And that makes me "not real" :lol:
Maybe it happens i dunno, i havent seen it myself though.

Amanita muscaria tea makes a beautiful colour though :yesnod:


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23726426 - 10/10/16 08:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It's from the psilocin oxidizing. I forget the process, but that's the best theory I've heard, one of the breakdown products is blue. It also is my personal experience that blue = loss of potency. When you extract mushrooms with water, ie make tea, it extracts the phosphitase enzymes which over time will convert your psilocybin to the less stable psilocin. If you boil them it will speed this process up and unless your mushrooms are bunk your water will turn blue. To avoid this add a pinch of ascorbic acid/lemon juice into your tea while doing the extraction next time.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Kinshino]
    #23726449 - 10/10/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Why are you freaking out over blue mushroom tea lol. Pretty sure every experienced tripper has made some blue tea before.

Like Psientist said, it basically happens because the temperature was too high which damaged some of the psilocybin. It's still drinkable and you can trip.




I'm "freaking out" because stupid ideas are dangerous.

No, all psychedelic mushrooms make a brown tea.  You would need to be nothing more than a person who is into cooking to know that.

Did this stupid idea start here or something?  I just wonder because of people actually defending blue mushroom tea.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Spellbound]
    #23726481 - 10/10/16 08:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Ive made shroom tea many a time, but it wasnt blue. And that makes me "not real" :lol:
Maybe it happens i dunno, i havent seen it myself though.

Amanita muscaria tea makes a beautiful colour though :yesnod:




Wait I am confused.

Amanita tea is brown too.  I'm saying it's not blue.  Not saying that it IS blue.  Does that compute?  How the hell did you respond and contribute to my same idea and then end up there?

You dunno?

Well, I do know and mushrooms tea is always brown.  Wanna over cook it in your boiling pot?  Still brown...

The color, is brown.  Nothing anyone comes up with proves that FACT wrong aside from fake fungi and fake drugs in general.

It will actually become more brown the longer you cook it.  It gets very brown and mushroom flavored.  You can destroy your tea most of the way with heat, but it will always make a tasty BROWN soup broth.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23726514 - 10/10/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yh i thought you were arguining it was blue my mistake haha :thumbup: i never saw blue myself anyway as i said. Obv shrooms blue when damaged, but i still havent seen water turning blue tho.

When ive made amanita it is browny yeah, but also has a reddish gold tinge i find lovely :smile: like liquid gold on the surface :laugh:


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    #23726527 - 10/10/16 08:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You guys don't know what you're talking about, mushroom tea is not blue per say, but it certainly can be. If your tea is always brown when you boil it then I would wager to guess that's because the mushrooms are old and contain no psilocin in them, only psilocybin, and the boiling water denatured the phosphitase enzymes before it had a chance to convert the psilocybin to psilocin. If you do not believe me then do exactly what OP did, make some tea at room temp and leave it for a few hours. That should give the enzymes time to work, and if it's not already blue then boiling it should rapidly cause it to be so. If you make tea with boiling water, without something to prevent oxidation such as ascorbic acid, from fresh or well stored mushrooms it will always turn blue. I guarantee you. If your tea does not in fact turn blue from intense boiling then it's a sign that your mushrooms have lost potency quite honestly.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Spellbound]
    #23726532 - 10/10/16 08:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah man, I was not trying to be a jag about it.

You helped make the same point I was trying to make.

That really is not how it works and it creeps me out to hear anyone saying otherwise.


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Re: Blue Water - Boiling Mushrooms - Advice or Help Please [Re: Punchfacechampion]
    #23726541 - 10/10/16 08:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I've been growing mushrooms for over a decade, that's exactly how it works.


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