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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23720409 - 10/08/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #23721867 - 10/09/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Right-wingers are less intelligent than left wingers, says study

    -Children with low intelligence grow up to be prejudiced
  - Right-wing views make the less intelligent feel 'safe'
    -Analysis of more than 15,000 people


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Right-wingers tend to be less intelligent than left-wingers, and people with low childhood intelligence tend to grow up to have racist and anti-gay views, says a controversial new study.

Conservative politics work almost as a 'gateway' into prejudice against others, say the Canadian academics.

The paper analysed large UK studies which compared childhood intelligence with political views in adulthood across more than 15,000 people.

The authors claim that people with low intelligence gravitate towards right-wing views because they make them feel safe.

Crucially, people's educational level is not what determines whether they are racist or not - it's innate intelligence, according to the academics.

Social status also appears to play no part.

The study, published in Psychological Science, claims that right-wing ideology forms a 'pathway' for people with low reasoning ability to become prejudiced against groups such as other races and gay people.

'Cognitive abilities are critical in forming impressions of other people and in being open minded,' say the researchers.

'It provides a sense of order.'

The study, by academics at Brock University in Ontario, Canada, used information from two UK studies from 1958 and 1970 , where several thousand children were assessed for intelligence at age 10 and 11, and then asked political questions aged 33.

The 1958 National Child Development involved 4,267 men and 4,537 women born in 1958.

The British Cohort Study involved 3,412 men and 3,658 women born in 1970.

It's the first time the data from these studies has been used in this way.

In adulthood, the children were asked whether they agreed with statements such as, 'I wouldn't mind working with people from other races,' and 'I wouldn't mind if a family of a different race moved next door.'

They were also asked whether they agreed with statements about typically right-wing and socially conservative politics such as, 'Give law breakers stiffer sentences,' and 'Schools should teach children to obey authority.'

The researchers also compared their results against a 1986 American study which included tests of cognitive ability and questions assessing prejudice against homosexuals.

The authors claim that there is a strong correlation between low intelligence both as a child and an adult, and right-wing politics.

The authors also claim that conservative politics is part of a complex relationship that leads people to become prejudices.

'Conservative ideology represents a critical pathway through which childhood intelligence predicts racism in adulthood,' says the paper.

'In psychological terms, the relation between intelligence and prejudice may stem from the propensity of individuals with lower cognitive ability to endorse more right wing conservative ideologies because such ideologies offer a psychological sense of stability and order.'

'Clearly, however, all socially conservative people are not prejudiced, and all prejudiced persons are not conservative.'





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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: Tipote]
    #23721944 - 10/09/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

If liberals are so smart, why are they so dependent on welfare?


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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: hostileuniverse] * 3
    #23721963 - 10/09/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'd say more conservatives are on welfare than liberals.


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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23722047 - 10/09/16 12:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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If liberals are so smart, why are they so dependent on welfare?




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Typically, yes.

The smarter people tend to be progressives.




Then What the fuck do they need all that welfare for?




Smart =/= rich and dumb =/= poor.


But a lot of people across all spectrums vote Democrat, yes.




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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: Tipote]
    #23723312 - 10/09/16 07:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The real answer is that it's all nonsense, there are plenty of smart people on both sides of the aisle, but progressives have used this argument for decades "if you disagree with me, you're stupid"


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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23723530 - 10/09/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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progressives have used this argument for decades "if you disagree with me, you're stupid"



No.  Progressives have used the argument if you don't understand basic logic, you're stupid.  That if you reject science, you're stupid.  That if you have a really low I.Q., you're stupid.


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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23723564 - 10/09/16 08:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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progressives have used this argument for decades "if you disagree with me, you're stupid"



No.  Progressives have used the argument if you don't understand basic logic, you're stupid.  That if you reject science, you're stupid.  That if you have a really low I.Q., you're stupid.




But what many progressives think is "basic logic" isn't rational.  :shrug:

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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: qman]
    #23723715 - 10/09/16 09:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I didn't say all progressives were smart.


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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23724827 - 10/10/16 11:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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progressives have used this argument for decades "if you disagree with me, you're stupid"



No.  Progressives have used the argument if you don't understand basic logic, you're stupid.  That if you reject science, you're stupid.  That if you have a really low I.Q., you're stupid.




Yes, and if you disagree with them, then "you don't understand logic, science and you have a low IQ"

Then they call you stupid, thanks for expanding on my point

See how that works?


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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: hostileuniverse] * 3
    #23725052 - 10/10/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

No, that's not how it works.  I'm talking about the ability to understand simple logic.

For example, if I pay an extra 2.2% income tax to get health insurance coverage, for which I used to pay $5,000/year for, then I come out ahead if my income is below $225,000.  If you don't understand that simple concept, or if you are unable to refute it, then you're stupid.  Get it?


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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #23726190 - 10/10/16 06:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Another thing that makes me think many conservatives are a bit stupid is the whole climate change thing. Surely you just have to lack basic scientific understanding to not accept the concept?


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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: Tipote]
    #23727459 - 10/11/16 06:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Another thing that makes me think many conservatives are a bit stupid is the whole climate change thing. Surely you just have to lack basic scientific understanding to not accept the concept?




Once again, conservatives don't dispute "climate change"

We dispute mans ability to change it, it's BS and fro the overwhelming amount of evidence that climate "scientists" are bought and paid for by leftist progressives pushing an agenda, along with falsifying evidence, yeah the climate douchebags who ban light bulbs and institute useless cafe standards that only end up costing everyone more money can go suck it


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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23727463 - 10/11/16 06:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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No, that's not how it works.  I'm talking about the ability to understand simple logic.

For example, if I pay an extra 2.2% income tax to get health insurance coverage, for which I used to pay $5,000/year for, then I come out ahead if my income is below $225,000.  If you don't understand that simple concept, or if you are unable to refute it, then you're stupid.  Get it?




And what does that say about the fucking retards who are dumb enough to believe it'll only cost us "2.2%"? Now THAT'S fucking stupid, get it?


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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23728172 - 10/11/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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No, that's not how it works.  I'm talking about the ability to understand simple logic.

For example, if I pay an extra 2.2% income tax to get health insurance coverage, for which I used to pay $5,000/year for, then I come out ahead if my income is below $225,000.  If you don't understand that simple concept, or if you are unable to refute it, then you're stupid.  Get it?




And what does that say about the fucking retards who are dumb enough to believe it'll only cost us "2.2%"? Now THAT'S fucking stupid, get it?



We've gone through the math countless times.  You have been unable to refute the math.  Your point is always the same - that people who get the math are "fucking retards" who are "fucking stupid".  That type of argument is what's known as an 'ad hominem' logical fallacy.  Name calling and declaring yourself smart does not make your argument stronger.


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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: hostileuniverse] * 2
    #23728404 - 10/11/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Another thing that makes me think many conservatives are a bit stupid is the whole climate change thing. Surely you just have to lack basic scientific understanding to not accept the concept?




Once again, conservatives don't dispute "climate change"

We dispute mans ability to change it, it's BS and fro the overwhelming amount of evidence that climate "scientists" are bought and paid for by leftist progressives pushing an agenda, along with falsifying evidence, yeah the climate douchebags who ban light bulbs and institute useless cafe standards that only end up costing everyone more money can go suck it




So all the global scientists are bought and paid for by leftist progressives? Source please?? This is such a stupid claim, I look forward to your source.

If conservatives are able to appreciate that gases like methane are greenhouse gases, how would colossal man-made methane emissions not have an impact?? Whether you think its the main cause or not, surely there is scientific fact that you can't ignore.

This thread is your natural home, HU (exhibit 1). :lol:


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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: Tipote]
    #23728542 - 10/11/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I have posted MANY sources, to you both, it's never good enough because it doesn't come from left wing sources...

You two are fucking ridiculous, like I said,  disagree with a lib and the "you're stupid" card is played, it's predictable as the sunrise


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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: hostileuniverse] * 3
    #23728660 - 10/11/16 03:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I have posted MANY sources, to you both, it's never good enough because it doesn't come from left wing sources...



Wrong.  It's never good enough because your sources always contain logical/factual errors which are always very clearly spelled out for you.

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You two are fucking ridiculous, like I said,  disagree with a lib and the "you're stupid" card is played, it's predictable as the sunrise



Please show me where I EVER used that argument (you just used it in your last post ironically enough).


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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23730203 - 10/12/16 04:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I have posted MANY sources, to you both, it's never good enough because it doesn't come from left wing sources...



Wrong.  It's never good enough because your sources always contain logical/factual errors which are always very clearly spelled out for you.

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You two are fucking ridiculous, like I said,  disagree with a lib and the "you're stupid" card is played, it's predictable as the sunrise



Please show me where I EVER used that argument (you just used it in your last post ironically enough).




I was obviously playing it back on you, and look how pissy you get :lol:


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Re: Is the grey matter of all self-dentified conservatives some sort of guano composite? [Re: hostileuniverse] * 4
    #23730305 - 10/12/16 06:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I have posted MANY sources, to you both, it's never good enough because it doesn't come from left wing sources...

You two are fucking ridiculous, like I said,  disagree with a lib and the "you're stupid" card is played, it's predictable as the sunrise




I haven't seen even ONE of your MANY sources on "the overwhelming amount of evidence that climate "scientists" are bought and paid for by leftist progressives pushing an agenda, along with falsifying evidence".

This evidence must be very overwhelming!! Right? I look forward to seeing a shred of it.


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