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Tripster95
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South East UK Autumn rough Identification(s)
#23724645 - 10/10/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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On a hunt for any psilocybin containing mushies and came across a fair variety of potential. I realise the images I have cannot be used to properly identify a specific species but I would just like to know if any of them 'may' contain psilocybin so I can then go and do further research to narrow things down! (I have included grouped shots near the end)
The first one (biggest) was found growing out of cow dung.
All others I found whilst venturing through a dense forest area covered in moss and decaying/broken trees! The specimens with nipples on top I figured were more likely to be the kind I am searching for and were all found nearer to the path I was walking on - nowhere too far from the path.












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Re: South East UK Autumn rough Identification(s) [Re: Tripster95]
#23724719 - 10/10/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Panaeolus antillarum & Cortinarius sp
I can't definitively see all the individuals in the group shot but there's nothing active in there
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Re: South East UK Autumn rough Identification(s) [Re: Tripster95]
#23724724 - 10/10/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nice collection of mushrooms there...unfortunately I don't think you have any active mushrooms there.
Your big one at the top is likely an egghead mottlegill - panaeolus semivolatus.
The rest seem to be a collection of other LBMs - some potentially inocybe. Edit: I agree with Ghosty, various cortinarius in there.
If you're after the classic magic mushroom, unfortunately you're looking in the wrong place  They tend to be found in open grassy areas, in acidic soil (look for dock leaves, thistles and sorrel) - cattle pastures are peoples favoured hunting ground, this may be down to the grass being short and the animals not eating the mushrooms.
One of the classic features of the liberty cap is the nipple on top, but the stem is quite a lot thinner than the ones in your photos (generally 1-2mm diameter).
Edited by Cow_botherer (10/10/16 10:30 AM)
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Re: South East UK Autumn rough Identification(s) [Re: Cow_botherer]
#23724811 - 10/10/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks, I appreciate your responses about these finds! The fields have been dry lately due to the warm weather so I cannot find any libs for the life of me!
Although one of these appear to have some blue/purple on the stem if you can see it on the left? Does bluing usually imply psilocybin is active or do some species get this even if they aren't active?
Here it is -
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Re: South East UK Autumn rough Identification(s) [Re: Tripster95]
#23724881 - 10/10/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I used to live in Kent, my dad is a gardener there. Apparently it's been incredibly dry out there lately, so not much hope for liberty caps. Bluing can be a diagnostic trait of active mushrooms, but it isn't always, and in that case probably not.
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Re: South East UK Autumn rough Identification(s) [Re: Tripster95]
#23724896 - 10/10/16 11:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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that's not blue bruising, that's just a dully purple colored mushroom. It's not a result of damage, it starts that color. When you see the blue bruising that is indicative of the presence of active compounds you'll recognize the difference immediately.
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Re: South East UK Autumn rough Identification(s) [Re: doctorghosty]
#23727890 - 10/11/16 10:22 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I see, that's a substantial difference between the two - thank you for your input!
Carrying on this thread, these specimens were found today by my friend and he's wondering which one if any are active? He believes the first image is a baby Lib' found in an open field surrounded by private farm land. The others however seem to me to just be look-alikes? The last image are a bunch that were found in a similar environment on top a small hill/mound of grass and were all clumped together in quite a tight concentration.




Edited by Tripster95 (10/11/16 10:24 AM)
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Re: South East UK Autumn rough Identification(s) [Re: Tripster95]
#23727993 - 10/11/16 11:05 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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1. idk, not magic. Gills are important. 2. & 3. includes likely Entoloma and likely Inocybe, the middle two. Gills! 3. see 2. 4. Lacrymaria lacrymabunda.
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Re: South East UK Autumn rough Identification(s) [Re: Joie]
#23748625 - 10/18/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've been out hunting recently and I've finally found a load of Libs! The ones on the right of these images are definitely Libs, although there may be one or two I have to sift out. The set on the other side (left to middle) I have included images of them still moist and another shot of them (3rd image) partially dry. I have a feeling that they could be Panaeolus? I'm after the active ones of course.
These were all growing in the same field near the libs, they have brownish stems with a shimmer and all spore prints taken were ranging from dark brown, purple, purple/black and black - as far as my eyes could make out!
Any ideas would be much appreciated so thank you in advance!



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Re: South East UK Autumn rough Identification(s) [Re: Tripster95]
#23748699 - 10/18/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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idk about the Pans but they don't shout P. cinctulus. The wrinkled cap bottom shot left might be indicative of Panaeolus papilionaceus var. retirugis. Some of the Panaeolus look like P. acuminatus. In the third shot the ones drying on the left look like they may be Panaeolina foenisecii.
Plenty of Psilocybe semilanceata anyway, and by all means investigate the others further.
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Re: South East UK Autumn rough Identification(s) [Re: Joie]
#23754046 - 10/20/16 06:04 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I researched further into the sp' you ID'd and I cannot differentiate them well enough so I decided to chuck them! I have found this species when out looking for more Libs yesterday and found them growing inside a very dense area of grass near Libs which were more out in the open.
Would you happen to know what they may be? One of them has a wavy cap which is more flattened than the others but still has the same characteristics. The only other thing is I haven't seen any bruising on the stipe at all, whereas the Libs I have found have plenty of bruising!
The spores as far as I can see are purple/black to me.
Thank you again in advance!





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