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Re: Who won the second debate? [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#23724642 - 10/10/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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That debate was hilarious. Hillary got fucking wrecked by Donald Trump so many times. One burn after another.
He definitely took the victory in this debate and she just looked like a crooked lying fool!
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Re: Who won the second debate? [Re: Herbologist]
#23724654 - 10/10/16 10:01 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Awww did Hillary's words hurt their slutty feelings?
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Re: Who won the second debate? [Re: qman] 1
#23724657 - 10/10/16 10:01 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's not good, but you're pulling the same red herring bullshit that Trump and his campaigners do constantly. Someone asks them a question like "hey, how do you justify the fact that your candidate has said xyz, all blatantly racist, sexist, xenophobic and warmongering statements?" and you say "Hillary treated these women poorly!"
That's a classic red herring.
I really don't trust anything that is 'said' about a political candidate. I mean of course anything Hillary Clinton has said is going to be misconstrued by the Trump campaign. You're hardly an unbiased source, saying she 'bashed' them. But at least she isn't planning on reinstating 'law and order' ( code word for the mass-incarceration of brown skinned people and the war on drugs ) and generally standing for all that is backwards, ignorant and racist in the U.S.. It's not really that I think she's a great candidate, so much so as it needs to be addressed that aligning oneself with Trump and his values is basically supporting a white male hierarchy of authority and institutionalized racism in this country.
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I didn't watch the debate but I can judge the supporters of Trump. Trump supporters believe in lies. Conspiracy theories at best.
Obviously Trump supporters are bad judges of character.
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Listen. Trump gropes women. Hillary defends a rapist who's victim was 14 years old when it happened
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Re: Who won the second debate? [Re: Patlal]
#23724679 - 10/10/16 10:08 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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She's a lawyer. It was her job to defend the rapist. In fact, she was assigned the case by the court and had no choice.
This is getting ridiculous.
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Re: Who won the second debate? [Re: Patlal]
#23724685 - 10/10/16 10:09 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Listen. Trump gropes women. Hillary defends a rapist who's victim was 14 years old when it happened
I have no knowledge of this story. It hasn't made it past the conspiracy sections of the internet.
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Re: Who won the second debate? [Re: Patlal] 3
#23724687 - 10/10/16 10:10 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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She was the Public Defender for that case, that was her job. That's like blaming a fire fighter for putting out a fire just because it was a murderer's house that was burning. It's not like she sought out that case specifically to get a rapist out of conviction. The fact that she successfully defended him is fucking weird, but at least she's good at arguing.
The reason why all of this even matters is because Trump is a blatantly dangerous person to give any amount of political power to. There's no comparison between the two of them, not just in governmental experience or skills, but morally as well. We could have a mop propped up in a cardboard box and that would be a better candidate than Trump.
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Re: Who won the second debate? [Re: koods] 1
#23724691 - 10/10/16 10:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: She's a lawyer. It was her job to defend the rapist. In fact, she was assigned the case by the court and had no choice.
This is getting ridiculous.
haha youre triggered. your candidate is failing miserably
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Re: Who won the second debate? [Re: Chakra Shock] 1
#23724693 - 10/10/16 10:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Chakra Shock said: It's not good, but you're pulling the same red herring bullshit that Trump and his campaigners do constantly. Someone asks them a question like "hey, how do you justify the fact that your candidate has said xyz, all blatantly racist, sexist, xenophobic and warmongering statements?" and you say "Hillary treated these women poorly!"
That's a classic red herring.
I really don't trust anything that is 'said' about a political candidate. I mean of course anything Hillary Clinton has said is going to be misconstrued by the Trump campaign. You're hardly an unbiased source, saying she 'bashed' them. But at least she isn't planning on reinstating 'law and order' ( code word for the mass-incarceration of brown skinned people and the war on drugs ) and generally standing for all that is backwards, ignorant and racist in the U.S.. It's not really that I think she's a great candidate, so much so as it needs to be addressed that aligning oneself with Trump and his values is basically supporting a white male hierarchy of authority and institutionalized racism in this country.
LOL. "The white male hierarchy." If I hadn't seen your other posts, I would assume you were someone playing a parody of the kind of SJW's you see on college campuses. But you're real You're the one assuming "law and order" means "send blacks to prison." You're the one with race instantly on your mind when you hear that, so maybe you are the racist one here. What would you tell black Trump supporters? Would you tell them who they should think is racist? Because there'a a lot more of them than you probably realize.
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Re: Who won the second debate? [Re: koods]
#23724698 - 10/10/16 10:13 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: She's a lawyer. It was her job to defend the rapist. In fact, she was assigned the case by the court and had no choice.
This is getting ridiculous.
Nobody forced her to tamper with evidence and make jokes about it though.
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Re: Who won the second debate? [Re: koods] 3
#23724700 - 10/10/16 10:13 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: Awww did Hillary's words hurt their slutty feelings?
that's the same sort of thing hillary said about a 12 year old that was brutally raped by her client
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Re: Who won the second debate? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23724703 - 10/10/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: Awww did Hillary's words hurt their slutty feelings?
that's the same sort of thing hillary said about a 12 year old that was brutally raped by her client
Apparently its okay for a mod (Koods) to call a under aged rape victim "slutty"
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Chakra Shock said: It's not good, but you're pulling the same red herring bullshit that Trump and his campaigners do constantly. Someone asks them a question like "hey, how do you justify the fact that your candidate has said xyz, all blatantly racist, sexist, xenophobic and warmongering statements?" and you say "Hillary treated these women poorly!"
That's a classic red herring.
I really don't trust anything that is 'said' about a political candidate. I mean of course anything Hillary Clinton has said is going to be misconstrued by the Trump campaign. You're hardly an unbiased source, saying she 'bashed' them. But at least she isn't planning on reinstating 'law and order' ( code word for the mass-incarceration of brown skinned people and the war on drugs ) and generally standing for all that is backwards, ignorant and racist in the U.S.. It's not really that I think she's a great candidate, so much so as it needs to be addressed that aligning oneself with Trump and his values is basically supporting a white male hierarchy of authority and institutionalized racism in this country.
Wanting to enforce existing immigration laws isn't "supporting a white male hierarchy of authority".
You do know the US has always discriminated who has been allowed to enter the country based on where they are coming from? It's never been a free for all until very recently.
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Re: Who won the second debate? [Re: Eminence]
#23724729 - 10/10/16 10:27 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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wow dude, you really haven't studied your history. This started with segregation, and then in the 60s and 70s when that was no longer viable for southern politicians to gain votes, it moved onto Nixon saying talking about 'law and order' and the 'war on crime'. Reagan inherited the southern white vote by continuing the push for 'law and order' but began his presidential campaign with the idea of the war on drugs in Philadelphia Mississippi, where civil rights workers were murdered in the 60s, and a center of the KKK.
Law and order is the exact term used by Nixon and Reagan to imply a 'cleaning up' of the streets, which in effect led to an immense and unprecedented spike in the numbers of black males being arrested and incarcerated.
When asked what Trump would do to try and quell Islamaphobia in the U.S., he answered by saying that Muslims are accountable for the fear that other people harbor for them.
This is classic dog whistle politics, but you don't even hear it because you believe that these candidates are better than they really are. I understand that you aren't racist and that you're not trying to support racism, but it's there behind the scenes causing problems for everyone. Just do some reading up on dog whistle politics and maybe watch a documentary or two about mass incarceration.
and qman - of course the U.S. has had immigration policies but never a call for a total ban on an ethnic group of people based off of fear and stigmatization... That along with the fact that Trump's only response to the growing problem of racial divisions in this country was 'law and order' and 'more, highly trained police' shows that he's just not thinking deeply enough about these issues to fully understand their implications.
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Re: Who won the second debate? [Re: Herbologist] 1
#23724741 - 10/10/16 10:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Herbologist said:
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koods said: Awww did Hillary's words hurt their slutty feelings?
that's the same sort of thing hillary said about a 12 year old that was brutally raped by her client
Apparently its okay for a mod (Koods) to call a under aged rape victim "slutty"
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Ok..I know about Nixon, but the way you say that makes it sound like you think Nixon was the first person to ever use the term "law and order." Trump isn't implying he's going to lock up all the blacks and you're paranoid if you think that. Also, fear is a natural response. Nobody chooses what to be afraid of..so if someone is afraid of Muslims, or feels uneasy being around them..then yes, it IS on Muslims (or rather some Muslims, but Islam in general) for causing that uneasiness, because they wouldn't feel that way if Muslims weren't known for the things they have a reputation for. You can try to be the good guy all the time, but that's eventually just going to end with you being taken advantage of. And it's already been happening elsewhere. Remember, it was Dems that started the KKK, now the democratic party is just more covert and manipulative about their racism rather than in your face about it.
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Re: Who won the second debate? [Re: Chakra Shock] 2
#23724755 - 10/10/16 10:37 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Chakra Shock said: wow dude, you really haven't studied your history. This started with segregation, and then in the 60s and 70s when that was no longer viable for southern politicians to gain votes, it moved onto Nixon saying talking about 'law and order' and the 'war on crime'. Reagan inherited the southern white vote by continuing the push for 'law and order' but began his presidential campaign with the idea of the war on drugs in Philadelphia Mississippi, where civil rights workers were murdered in the 60s, and a center of the KKK.
Law and order is the exact term used by Nixon and Reagan to imply a 'cleaning up' of the streets, which in effect led to an immense and unprecedented spike in the numbers of black males being arrested and incarcerated.
When asked what Trump would do to try and quell Islamaphobia in the U.S., he answered by saying that Muslims are accountable for the fear that other people harbor for them.
This is classic dog whistle politics, but you don't even hear it because you believe that these candidates are better than they really are. I understand that you aren't racist and that you're not trying to support racism, but it's there behind the scenes causing problems for everyone. Just do some reading up on dog whistle politics and maybe watch a documentary or two about mass incarceration.
and qman - of course the U.S. has had immigration policies but never a call for a total ban on an ethnic group of people based off of fear and stigmatization... That along with the fact that Trump's only response to the growing problem of racial divisions in this country was 'law and order' and 'more, highly trained police' shows that he's just not thinking deeply enough about these issues to fully understand their implications.
"never a call for a total ban on an ethnic group of people"
They didn't need a total ban because they wouldn't ever consider bringing in people from those parts of the world, you don't get it.
They weren't stupid a hundred years ago, they deliberately brought in immigrants from Europe, NOT from Africa, the Middle East or South America. Do you know why? Because they didn't want those people.
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Re: Who won the second debate? [Re: qman]
#23724759 - 10/10/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Naw. We never imported people from Africa before
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Re: Who won the second debate? [Re: koods]
#23724765 - 10/10/16 10:40 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Trumps performance was so bad, nobody is even mentioning the fact that he said he knows nothing about Russia and he doesn't talk with his running mate about policy.
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