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krypto2000
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Re: Best Shroom Extraction Method? [Re: Tiamo]
#23978106 - 01/03/17 07:39 AM (7 years, 27 days ago) |
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You want at least 20-30% if you're storing it though to protect against pathogens.
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Tiamo
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Re: Best Shroom Extraction Method? [Re: krypto2000]
#23978158 - 01/03/17 08:31 AM (7 years, 27 days ago) |
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Yes, that would be a good idea for long term storage indeed.
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Re: Best Shroom Extraction Method? [Re: Tiamo]
#23978252 - 01/03/17 09:35 AM (7 years, 27 days ago) |
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Tiamo do you just make tea or do you do a proper extraction using water
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Tiamo
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Re: Best Shroom Extraction Method? [Re: sbc1]
#23978347 - 01/03/17 10:12 AM (7 years, 27 days ago) |
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I do an extraction, I cover the shroom powder with just enough distilled water and shake for a bit. Then I bring that to a boil for ~15 minutes and strain. This helps reduce the water content and also brings out the actives. I usually have around 10 mL for about 2.5-3 grams. (after boiling) I immediately consume it so there's no need for any alcohol in there.
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Parafaragaramus
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Re: Best Shroom Extraction Method? [Re: Tiamo]
#23978403 - 01/03/17 10:35 AM (7 years, 27 days ago) |
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Would there be any benefit to doing an acetone wash before using ethanol? I was reading that psilocybin isn't soluble in acetone so it might pull out some of the other ingredients? Just a random thought. I have absolutely no background in chemistry just been reading things on the internet.
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Tiamo
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You'd just be taking out some organic chemicals, but I mean why does it matter? Doesn't affect anything.
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Parafaragaramus
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Re: Best Shroom Extraction Method? [Re: Tiamo]
#23978654 - 01/03/17 12:06 PM (7 years, 27 days ago) |
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True. I forgot this thread was just about the best extraction. I was reading some threads about the most pure extractions and brought that idea over here
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krypto2000
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Where did you read that psilocybin is not soluble in acetone? I would expect both psilocin and psilocybin to be.
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Re: Best Shroom Extraction Method? [Re: krypto2000]
#23979052 - 01/03/17 02:44 PM (7 years, 27 days ago) |
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It wasn't any sort of credible sources but I think I read it a few times a few different threads/websites
Edit: did some quick looking found a PDF stating psilocybin and psilocin are soluble in acetone. One soluble the other slightly soluble. Found the old thread I was reading and he was talking about adding hcl to make it a psilocybin hcl salt which is supposed to be insoluble in acetone.
Either way I plan on picking up some everclear soon and trying this out at least. We have a nitrogen machine at work would it be best to fill up a balloon and then displace the air in the jar/container as best as I can?
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Edited by Parafaragaramus (01/03/17 02:59 PM)
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Highzenbergfungi
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The reason for using ethanols is their boiling temp. If the end goal is a "solid" extract, boiling under vacuum using heat is easily done using alcohols because of their boiling point. Methanol is a better solvent though. It pulls a more complete profile when its anhydrous.
The small amount of heat is to move the honey so that as it spins it slowly separates the mass of extract. Like making taffy. Think, a hot dog rotator you see at 7/11, not the same amount of heat and certainly not radiant light heat.
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