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Santa Cruzer
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Outdoor experimental grow question
#23723673 - 10/09/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Found the last standing amanita at my college campus. Most of the other species were smooshed and rotten from careless feet and old age. Alas I saw the last standing beautiful specimen in the stage between pinning and breaking its veil.

I took it and decided to save its life, as well as allow it to grow in peace in my yard in a similar environment that I found it in. Sadly, I went to check on it today and to my demise I noticed that while the mushroom had broke its veil, and grown very much since I found it 3 days ago,
 Some pesky slugs decided they wanted a midnight snack and decided to destroy half of the cap and from what I saw, ate part of the stem out as well. Im hoping they are not immune to ibotenic acid, and muscimol and it will kill them, but in a last ditch effort to save it I spread slug bait around the base of the mushroom hoping it distracts the varmints from further damaging my little project.
My two questions regarding this are as follows. Will the slug bait be absorbed by the mushroom and make it even more toxic than an amnita already is?
And from my understanding, aside from all the other factors that a mushroom requires to grow and thrive, when the spores form mycellium, to grow a mushroom out of that it requires 2 compatible patches of said mycellium to spawn a mushroom. Does this mean spores from 2 separate specimens, or can it be 2 or more spores growing mycellium from the same specimen?
Edited by Santa Cruzer (10/09/16 09:07 PM)
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Outdoor experimental grow question [Re: Santa Cruzer]
#23723677 - 10/09/16 09:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Josex
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Re: Outdoor experimental grow question [Re: bodhisatta]
#23723852 - 10/09/16 10:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Outdoor experimental grow question [Re: Josex]
#23723854 - 10/09/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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azur
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Re: Outdoor experimental grow question [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23723925 - 10/09/16 10:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Santa Cruzer
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Re: Outdoor experimental grow question [Re: azur]
#23723932 - 10/09/16 10:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not sure if you guys are helping me bump the thread, or trying to troll. Either way both are being accomplished so thanks for the prior
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Re: Outdoor experimental grow question [Re: Santa Cruzer]
#23723954 - 10/09/16 11:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Outdoor experimental grow question [Re: azur]
#23723966 - 10/09/16 11:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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amidogen
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Re: Outdoor experimental grow question [Re: morty422]
#23724348 - 10/10/16 06:59 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edited by amidogen (06/21/18 11:38 AM)
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Tuhdoww
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Re: Outdoor experimental grow question [Re: amidogen]
#23724352 - 10/10/16 07:05 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Greg
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Re: Outdoor experimental grow question [Re: Tuhdoww]
#23724359 - 10/10/16 07:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Outdoor experimental grow question [Re: Greg]
#23724385 - 10/10/16 07:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Outdoor experimental grow question [Re: Santa Cruzer]
#23724433 - 10/10/16 08:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Santa Cruzer said: Found the last standing amanita at my college campus. Most of the other species were smooshed and rotten from careless feet and old age. Alas I saw the last standing beautiful specimen in the stage between pinning and breaking its veil.

I took it and decided to save its life, as well as allow it to grow in peace in my yard in a similar environment that I found it in. Sadly, I went to check on it today and to my demise I noticed that while the mushroom had broke its veil, and grown very much since I found it 3 days ago,
 Some pesky slugs decided they wanted a midnight snack and decided to destroy half of the cap and from what I saw, ate part of the stem out as well. Im hoping they are not immune to ibotenic acid, and muscimol and it will kill them, but in a last ditch effort to save it I spread slug bait around the base of the mushroom hoping it distracts the varmints from further damaging my little project.
My two questions regarding this are as follows. Will the slug bait be absorbed by the mushroom and make it even more toxic than an amnita already is?
And from my understanding, aside from all the other factors that a mushroom requires to grow and thrive, when the spores form mycellium, to grow a mushroom out of that it requires 2 compatible patches of said mycellium to spawn a mushroom. Does this mean spores from 2 separate specimens, or can it be 2 or more spores growing mycellium from the same specimen?
I have a feeling op may delete.
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Greg
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Re: Outdoor experimental grow question [Re: bodhisatta]
#23724440 - 10/10/16 08:22 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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A. Meltdown B. Delete C. Never be seen again D. All of the above
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Outdoor experimental grow question [Re: Greg]
#23724509 - 10/10/16 08:57 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Someone should probably tell OP that mushrooms can't be transplanted. Theres no mycelium network where you relocated the mushroom to. and even if there was its not like it will connect and resume growing.
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Santa Cruzer
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Re: Outdoor experimental grow question [Re: bodhisatta]
#23735805 - 10/14/16 12:02 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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instead of being insecure douches and flaming the bambi maybe you could give some courteous advice, and explanation or a link or something as to why this will or wont work. I understand its the internet and you guys feel almighty powerful once equipped with your keyboard, however I figured the shroomery would be different and have some helpful insight, instead of being just like every other media forum. Might as well be logged on to facebook for fucks sake.
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amidogen
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Re: Outdoor experimental grow question [Re: Santa Cruzer]
#23735817 - 10/14/16 12:10 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edited by amidogen (04/19/18 11:30 AM)
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Greg
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Re: Outdoor experimental grow question [Re: Greg]
#23735825 - 10/14/16 12:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Santa Cruzer said: instead of being insecure douches and flaming the bambi maybe you could give some courteous advice, and explanation or a link or something as to why this will or wont work. I understand its the internet and you guys feel almighty powerful once equipped with your keyboard, however I figured the shroomery would be different and have some helpful insight, instead of being just like every other media forum. Might as well be logged on to facebook for fucks sake.
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Greg said: A. Meltdown B. Delete C. Never be seen again D. All of the above
You have chosen option A!
 Congratulations.
A couple google searches would tell you exactly all the reasons why you are wrong and why it's impossible to cultivate Amanitas.
Here you go, since you want to be spoonfed:
Amanitas are mycorrhizal, this means they are symbiotic with plants (in this case trees such as hemlock, birch or pine). Mycorrhizal mushrooms are essentially impossible to cultivate because this relationship between plant and fungus is very complex.
A dirty ass specimen like the one you found would take a miracle and a half to clean up on agar, even if it was culturable using standard methods.
You show astounding lack of knowledge on the life cycle of mushrooms with your question about "compatible patches".
Spores germinate, monokaryotic myc spreads from each spore until it finds another compatible monokaryon. It then fuses and forms a dikaryon capable of fruiting. This happens within the space of a couple hundred microns...
With even one iota of spores you are going to have more dikaryons (strains) than you can count.
You could have figured that out from the link Azur posted, but you don't want to do any reading of your own. You want us to write you a fucking abstract for your reading pleasure.
I didn't have to make a post like this to learn these things. I researched and learned them myself.
You have to understand that posts are made several times a week (or even daily) with the same dumbass questions. Albeit this one is a special kind of stupid...
You even had the balls to call this "experimental". This is closer to the Salem witch trials than it is to the scientific method.
Edited by Greg (10/14/16 12:35 AM)
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mushhiehunter
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Re: Outdoor experimental grow question [Re: Greg]
#23735877 - 10/14/16 01:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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But I guess he probably unknowingly spread some of the spores in his back-yard, maybe in a few years time when the mycelium takes a foothold... who knows, he might even get to grow his amanita (very unlikely though)
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Re: Outdoor experimental grow question [Re: mushhiehunter]
#23735997 - 10/14/16 03:29 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lol! I love this place
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