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akira_akuma
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People using SJW to exact the same effect? Not so much. I see concise arguments against their over reactions far more often then I see single word write offs.
you were, frankly, banned, during the better part of it's being popular around here. you missed it. it's not being used so much now because it's a...what did i call it again...? oh yeah...a dead fucking horse.
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Yes it does, thats exactly what it means.
nope. an SJW follows a hard-line code of ethics, that are separate than that of a Radical Feminist. (taking out the consideration that there are different types of feminism too)
a radical feminist can be anything from someone who is a misandrist ("man-hater"), to someone who thinks men should be killed or at least enslaved (c'mon, sounds like a fun -- warrrriooorrrrrs), to someone who just thinks the oppression is just REAL YO, that they see hate for men whom don't see eye to eye with their radical position.
but none of those things needs be subject to the purview of the ethics of an SJW. they need not dox, protest, incentivize, rage-out, mob, or debate at all. these people have to do THOSE THINGS to be called, rightfully, an "SJW". otherwise, they just simply hold the views that they hold, say, i could be like "i hate men, scum of the earth", but then i might not fucking do anything more! so how in the FUCK can you say that is like being an SJW? because by that standard, by your own internal logic, i can simply call you an SJW for holding the set of views you hold, on anything, name it. you don't like, let's say, the right-wing, you in fact, actively propound that they are an active nuisance, well, i can call you an SJW. i mean, by YOUR LOGIC you don't need to do any of the above things that describes "SJW" -- the term -- you just have to take a stance on anything. 
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Why is this such a difficult thing to wrap your head around. Its baffling.
what's baffling is your incapacity to think.
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akira_akuma
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Sophistic Radiance said: Fat fucking lot of good that did, now hate speech is allowed in the Pub to a greater extent than it ever was, even celebrated, all just to teach me a lesson. This place is fucking twisted.
yep.
but ythan wants his kingdom to be the pogrom of free ideals, so.
this is the free ideals that are within the US...LOL i'm sure it must be frustrating to address free ideals without that embattled ythanic support.
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Dude... where are you getting your energy? Are you amped up?
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akira_akuma
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i naturally have bugs under my skin.
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Bodhi of Ankou
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So they have to actually be doing it to earn the label. like I cant be a liberal unless Im out liberalizing business and incetivizing single payer health care services? What in the fuck are you on.
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Darwinism by any other name, also known as moral bankruptcy. The Pub rules are nothing but a poisoned lure. Just like the progressivism of SJW's to whom social issues are of the same order of relative importance as pogs.
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yes, jesus, WTF are YOU on? ever heard of faulty syllogism...just because Sophist is wearing lots of fur, and walks on all fours, doesn't mean she's a bear. she could be a dog. or a squirrel. 
YES, you have to ACTUALLY INCUR THE LABEL, through means that are described BY THE LABEL, to be realistically and affirmatively LABELLED, with any degree of consistency or understanding of what the fucking label even fucking stands for. that's why they're called "LABELS".
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My GF calls me "mama bear" :3
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Bodhi of Ankou
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akira_akuma said: yes, jesus, WTF are YOU on? ever heard of faulty syllogism...just because Sophist is wearing lots of fur, and walks on all fours, doesn't mean she's a bear. she could be a dog. or a squirrel. 
YES, you have to ACTUALLY INCUR THE LABEL, through means that are described BY THE LABEL, to be realistically and affirmatively LABELLED, with any degree of consistency or understanding of what the fucking label even fucking stands for. that's why they're called "LABELS".
but shes not wearing a fur suit and walking on all fours, thats ridiculous. Shes a women who espouses sjw things and views.
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Sophistic Radiance said: Darwinism by any other name, also known as moral bankruptcy. The Pub rules are nothing but a poisoned lure. Just like the progressivism of SJW's to whom social issues are of the same order of relative importance as pogs.
Cry me a river.
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Yes I do. I have had in-depth conversations with some where I've been able to reach an understanding when they understand that I too think people should be treated people regardless of their ethnicity, their gender identity, or really anything - I couldn't give a shit about any of that, I am going to treat someone with basic human decency until they are uncivil to me.
A lot of them are just deeply insecure people who are looking for affirmation that get sucked into the echo tunnel. I'm vocal on my opinions of a lot of third wave feminism in that I think it infantilizes(sp?) women further and that people in general deserve better. I think a lot of them live in their own bubbles, and could use a crash course on effective communication, but ultimately they mean well and they think they're doing good...I would disagree but I wouldn't call them bad people. I usually think of it as an accomplishment if I can simply facilitate rational discussion between the worst of them.
I live in a very liberal big city, for reference. I am familiar with some very small insular towns in the same state and there I see the opposite, which is some openly racist and bigoted folks if I happen upon them when they're in their comfort zone.
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Yeah, SJW things like "please don't let me get tortured by the state over an unpaid speeding ticket"
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dont forget all the shit stirring.
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akira_akuma
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pirate, obviously there are people who are enveloped and ensconced in the movement to such a degree that even the most brain-addled or uninformed, or amateur, are all careening into all pout-driven subject matter...of course they exist.
you ever seen any SJWs around the shroomery, i wonder, though. 
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Bodhi of Ankou said: dont forget all the shit stirring.
yeah...you'd NEVER stir shit. never.
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akira_akuma
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
but shes not wearing a fur suit and walking on all fours, thats ridiculous. Shes a women who espouses sjw things and views.
lol, feigning daftness.
you know i was talking about labels, right? you said "So they have to actually be doing it to earn the label." -- i explained to you the concept of faulty syllogism. yes, to earn a label, you have to fall under THAT label. goddamn. 
PS: she may espouse things that an SJW might fight for, such as transgender issues, such as people intentionally misgendering someone (like if called you a little lady. see how that can be construed as menacing? if i was your father, and i called you little girl all the time...think about it. i know you can get there on your own.)
but none of this makes her an SJW. plus she decries SJWs. she doesn't associate with the movement at all, and is in open defiance of them. if she is an SJW at all, she is a malcontent one -- meaning, she's out. but that doesn't appear to be the case, even.
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I succeeded in getting a conversation started. That's all I was really going for. I didn't know what to expect, I didn't have a plan for what to do once that actually happened, there was a fat backlash, and the outcome was worse than I could have anticipated. But I definitely got a conversation started. For an issue that most people are too embarrassed to admit even thinking about, that is a big win in itself.
The trick is in getting it to the point of two steps forward, one step back, instead of one step forward, two steps back. I've pretty much given up on the whole fucking thing anyway, though I remain righteously indignant into perpetuity.
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Because the idea is just as bad as the action. Someone can be an sjw and be a lazy fuck who does nothing. That doesnt change the fact that hes an sjw.
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akira_akuma
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the idea of an SJW is something though, it's not just "anything". try again. harder this time. more energy.
if the person says they are an SJW then they are an SJW. if a person does nothing...how the fuck is that person an SJW? you make no sense.
if the person does nothing, they aren't anything.
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Bodhi of Ankou
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Sophistic Radiance said: I succeeded in getting a conversation started. That's all I was really going for. I didn't know what to expect, I didn't have a plan for what to do once that actually happened, there was a fat backlash, and the outcome was worse than I could have anticipated. But I definitely got a conversation started. For an issue that most people are too embarrassed to admit even thinking about, that is a big win in itself.
The trick is in getting it to the point of two steps forward, one step back, instead of one step forward, two steps back. I've pretty much given up on the whole fucking thing anyway, though I remain righteously indignant into perpetuity.
I think you won a fair bit of legitimacy. A lot of us didnt care about it until you started whining about it, and its one of the rare times I actually saw a considerable number of posters cede a position.
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I like how you can't even talk about the phenomenon of SJWs without getting jumped by them.
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