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Advice on travelling?
#23722533 - 10/09/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have hardly ever traveled throughout my life. The couple of times that I did travel happened mostly when I was very young and as a result I don't remember much. Also, I have never been outside the U.S. I moved around a ton growing up, but I almost always lived in the same state, and only spent a few years living in small towns in neighboring states.
A lot of the people who lived where where I've lived were the type who were born and raised in those places, and I don't want to be like them. Some recent events in my life have also suggested to me that I really need to get out and see some new things.
Having no real experience traveling on my own, can you give me advice on this subject? Any advice at all would be appreciated...I would like to plan a trip for next summer after I graduate with my MS. I will not have much money though...I would estimate around $2-3K at most.
The main things I'd like to know more about are how to travel in a foreign country (what documents I need, etc.), and how to travel on a budget, while at the same time not missing out on important sights or experiences related to my destination.
Suggestions on where to travel would be nice too. Anything you have to offer really.
Thanks for your time.
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I've never travelled either, where are u planning to travel?..
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2-3k isn't much, I would go somewhere you can comfortably camp out at if you want it to last.
Personally I prefer staying in one area for a few weeks so I can meet people and get to know them, rather than just passing through one place after another. Then again
On that budget, you could travel to Canada or S.America, but going overseas would sap your money on a plane ticket. There's a lot to see in the US, travel abroad is definitely worth it but I would go with a bigger budget. All you need is a passport.
# Technically you could go overseas on that budget if you're careful, you'll have probably $1000-1500 leftover after plane tickets and getting your passport taken care of. Hostels are relatively cheap, camping is very cheap.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: zZZz]
#23722556 - 10/09/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have been around the states. Money helps a huge amount. You are limited by what you can bring with you or purchase.
I'm still stuck in my hometown. Been around and there are always logistical issues with anything and everything.
If you cannot have a great time anywhere then there is no point in going everywhere.
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Repertoire89 said: 2-3k isn't much, I would go somewhere you can comfortably camp out at if you want it to last.
Personally I prefer staying in one area for a few weeks so I can meet people and get to know them, rather than just passing through one place after another. Then again
On that budget, you could travel to Canada or S.America, but going overseas would sap your money on a plane ticket. There's a lot to see in the US, travel abroad is definitely worth it but I would go with a bigger budget. All you need is a passport.
# Technically you could go overseas on that budget if you're careful, you'll have probably $1000-1500 leftover after plane tickets and getting your passport taken care of. Hostels are relatively cheap, camping is very cheap.
My thought is that if I go to see Europe one day, it would be most efficient to visit several different countries at one time, would you agree? Basically just to avoid wasting money on so many plane tickets...the problem is that once I get a job, there's no telling if/when I'll have the money and/or time to go on some massive EuroTrip.
You said I'll have around 1,000-1,500 after plane tickets - is that both there and back? Obviously I don't want to get stranded there....
Another big issue for me is being able to estimate transportation costs - obviously I can't take my car with me overseas - and I also don't know how the prices of basic things like food and hotel/hostel in Europe compare to those here. I'm also assuming I would have to visit a currency exchange to be able to conduct transactions and pay a premium for that as well.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Morel Guy]
#23722580 - 10/09/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Morel Guy said: I have been around the states. Money helps a huge amount. You are limited by what you can bring with you or purchase.
I'm still stuck in my hometown. Been around and there are always logistical issues with anything and everything.
If you cannot have a great time anywhere then there is no point in going everywhere.
Where have you been in the states? What were your favorite places to go and what were your least favorite?
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People get hooked on traveling. My sister has spent in the neighborhood of $100k on traveling overseas. Maybe even more, that's a wild guess. She's been all over. Good thing she has a good job!
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Morel Guy said: I have been around the states. Money helps a huge amount. You are limited by what you can bring with you or purchase.
I'm still stuck in my hometown. Been around and there are always logistical issues with anything and everything.
If you cannot have a great time anywhere then there is no point in going everywhere.
Where have you been in the states? What were your favorite places to go and what were your least favorite?
Montana is pretty cool. Norcal would be cool with more money and roots there. Lot's of homeless in Norcal and lot's of dirty mean Mexicans and meth, also white trash. Idaho was the weirdest. Oregon was great, good weed and very pretty countryside.
Been to Kentucky, Tennessee, Carolina's, Florida. Been to New Mexico, Colorado. All the states in-between yet never stayed anywhere too long.
There are criminals and anti-criminal authority anywhere. They seem to be what can make a situation suck. Plus a bunch of people that only look at you because they want your business. Once in awhile someone is curious and actually sincerely polite and interested.
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My thought is that if I go to see Europe one day, it would be most efficient to visit several different countries at one time, would you agree? Basically just to avoid wasting money on so many plane tickets...the problem is that once I get a job, there's no telling if/when I'll have the money and/or time to go on some massive EuroTrip.
You said I'll have around 1,000-1,500 after plane tickets - is that both there and back? Obviously I don't want to get stranded there....
Another big issue for me is being able to estimate transportation costs - obviously I can't take my car with me overseas - and I also don't know how the prices of basic things like food and hotel/hostel in Europe compare to those here. I'm also assuming I would have to visit a currency exchange to be able to conduct transactions and pay a premium for that as well.
It should run you around $1500 for the round trip tickets, maybe a little more, don't forget your passport will run like $200 if you haven't taken care of it yet. Don't buy your plane tickets on Orbitz, do some research and you'll find something cheaper, some will buy directly from smaller airlines for example, or from a another "orbitz" like site with more small airlines which might save you money. It also helps to go at certain times of year, you'll have to do some reading on the subject.
You can look up hostel prices by country, Germany for example is notably cheaper than most of Western Europe. When I was in Europe we visited 9 countries, it was great, though I prefer to take things slower, get to know a place and meet people... you can still do a lot traveling but on a budget like yours I would either focus on less places or backpack around.
You're right about currency exchange, good call. Pick pockets are real, so you don't want to be carrying a lot of cash, I think travelers checks help, but honestly I don't know much about this.
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Makes friends with someone that works for an airline and get a buddy pass. My sister flew all over the world on a buddy pass. It's free and you just get seats that open up at the last minute.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Morel Guy]
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Morel Guy said: Makes friends with someone that works for an airline and get a buddy pass. My sister flew all over the world on a buddy pass. It's free and you just get seats that open up at the last minute.
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Did you use traveler's checks when you went to Europe?
Also are you saying that the round-trip tickets would cost around $1,500? In your first post I thought you said I would be left with that much after buying them. Just trying to confirm...I know I could probably find more info about this just by doing some more research, but obviously I'm just flirting with the idea at this point.
What would be a reasonable, average budget in your opinion? $5K - 6K?
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Celestial Traveler said: Did you use traveler's checks when you went to Europe?
Also are you saying that the round-trip tickets would cost around $1,500? In your first post I thought you said I would be left with that much after buying them. Just trying to confirm...I know I could probably find more info about this just by doing some more research, but obviously I'm just flirting with the idea at this point.
What would be a reasonable, average budget in your opinion? $5K - 6K?
Don't know anything about travelers checks, I was with family, we did it the American way and spent like 30k +  My solo travels have been within the US
I thought you said you would have 3k, so 1500 would be both your remainder and the cost of round trip tickets.
How much you need depends on how you do things, I think $1500 on hand at arrival would be enough for backpacking around, staying in hostels, couchsurfing, making your way on the cheap for at least a month. 5-6k is more than reasonable, its only a little more expensive than the US in Western Europe and I've traveled on basically nothing in the US.
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I can't afford the good life in America. So I travel around Europe seeing that I can't afford the good life in Europe.
Is that what a lot of kids do?
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Morel Guy]
#23722867 - 10/09/16 04:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do you have citizenship out there? I'd like to busk my way around Europe but Schengen immigration laws keep me from doing so
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Celestial Traveler said: Did you use traveler's checks when you went to Europe?
Also are you saying that the round-trip tickets would cost around $1,500? In your first post I thought you said I would be left with that much after buying them. Just trying to confirm...I know I could probably find more info about this just by doing some more research, but obviously I'm just flirting with the idea at this point.
What would be a reasonable, average budget in your opinion? $5K - 6K?
Don't know anything about travelers checks, I was with family, we did it the American way and spent like 30k +  My solo travels have been within the US
I thought you said you would have 3k, so 1500 would be both your remainder and the cost of round trip tickets.
How much you need depends on how you do things, I think $1500 on hand at arrival would be enough for backpacking around, staying in hostels, couchsurfing, making your way on the cheap for at least a month. 5-6k is more than reasonable, its only a little more expensive than the US in Western Europe and I've traveled on basically nothing in the US.
Wow, 30K...anyways yeah, if I did go I would probably want to stay a couple of weeks or so. A month would be more than enough time.
I never realized that people spent so much money on travel. People talk about saving money at the grocery store, but the real things that force you to make decisions about retirement seem to be about what house you buy, whether you buy a sports car, how much you spend on travel, etc.
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Repertoire89 said: Do you have citizenship out there? I'd like to busk my way around Europe but Schengen immigration laws keep me from doing so
I have a felony so I doubt traveling is going to be an great experience for me. It's barely citizenship in the states. It's 'you can be abducted and assfucked' citizenship.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Morel Guy]
#23722878 - 10/09/16 04:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Didn't read all the responses but I'm afraid the people you find in the world are going to be very similar to the people you dislike in your hometown. Just be glad you have us.
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Celestial Traveler said: Wow, 30K...anyways yeah, if I did go I would probably want to stay a couple of weeks or so. A month would be more than enough time.
I never realized that people spent so much money on travel. People talk about saving money at the grocery store, but the real things that force you to make decisions about retirement seem to be about what house you buy, whether you buy a sports car, how much you spend on travel, etc.
Well it was a relatively long trip, through a lot of countries, with 4 people.
I'm no expert on finances, but I do think your day to day budget is important, shit adds up.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Morel Guy]
#23722884 - 10/09/16 04:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have a felony so I doubt traveling is going to be an great experience for me. It's barely citizenship in the states. It's 'you can be abducted and assfucked' citizenship.
That sucks man, I was hoping for some insight on getting around the Schengen wall
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moonrockmushy said: Didn't read all the responses but I'm afraid the people you find in the world are going to be very similar to the people you dislike in your hometown. Just be glad you have us. 
If you get out of the country and go to a place that doesn't speak your language, culture completely changes. People in Russia are distinctly different from people in Costa Rica, who are distinctly different from people in the UK .
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moonrockmushy said: Didn't read all the responses but I'm afraid the people you find in the world are going to be very similar to the people you dislike in your hometown. Just be glad you have us. 
That's really the last reason why I want to travel. The point is just that I don't want to grow old and die without traveling...I would like to see the world, but then again I guess everyone does but they just have the same time and budget constraints.
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There is nothing to see but there are things that can be absorbed. I like it best when I come back home and I have that feeling of have traveled. Having looked at a mountain and gotten a feeling. That feeling that nothing matters to that mountain.
You are going to stand out and look stupid traveling. Looking like a runaway on a corner late at night. ISIS might recruit you or the KGB. LMAO!
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Morel Guy]
#23722934 - 10/09/16 05:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't really care how stupid I look, although I know the importance of blending in and not getting taken advantage of. But the bottom line is that traveling is something that I feel like I NEED to do at this point in my life. I feel that my lack of experiencing other places has stunted my growth.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Morel Guy]
#23722950 - 10/09/16 05:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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New Zealand is amazing. So many beautiful pictures. Plane ticket from the USA is about $1200. $2200 for 6 days is my estimate.
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What sort of enrichment are you looking for? Are there museums you can go to that are closer? Sometimes a movie enriches my experience and gives an escape.
Lot's of places are awesome. They all have life that exists there. Not one place in the world sucks at it's core. People have made certain areas pretty shitty tho.
Ever watch rick steves Europe? Aside from all the Christianity in Europe it looks ok. Not that I am into sin such as the red light district of the dam.
Just beware that a lot of the world hates Americans.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Morel Guy]
#23723010 - 10/09/16 05:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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As long as my physical being is not threatened, then why should I care what the rest of the world thinks of me?
The enrichment I'm looking for is fairly general. A reason to live, is one of them. Also my life really needs (new) experiences. I'm also about to graduate like I said, and don't want to find myself too busy to do these things years down the road, and wish I had done them when I had the chance.
I have spent the vast majority of my life living in one spot, and I just feel the need to see something new. I also read a lot about history and there's a lot I'd like to see in Europe, as well as in Asia and Russia perhaps (whether you consider that Asia or Europe).
I also might like to visit LA, San Francisco or NYC, or any other "world cities" really. Seeing some outdoors up in Oregon and Alaska would be cool too.
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Gotta pick one wisely then. That or make a lot of money and get a job with plenty of freedom to travel.
Traveling is ego. So figure out what your ego really wants. Surely there is nature in Europe and history. If I went to every hometown of my ancestors that came from Europe, I'd be gone for a long time!
Just to find out where they all came from and some of the relics. I guess we are all trying to form some sort of understanding. Not that the ancestors in Europe would care very much. People there likely don't care about distant relatives. At least I wouldn't expect them to.
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Morel Guy said: Gotta pick one wisely then. That or make a lot of money and get a job with plenty of freedom to travel.
Traveling is ego. So figure out what your ego really wants. Surely there is nature in Europe and history. If I went to every hometown of my ancestors that came from Europe, I'd be gone for a long time!
Just to find out where they all came from and some of the relics. I guess we are all trying to form some sort of understanding. Not that the ancestors in Europe would care very much. People there likely don't care about distant relatives. At least I wouldn't expect them to.
That's an interesting idea, stopping by all the little hamlets and whatwhat where your ancestors came from.
I've had some distant relatives contact the family, there's some debate as to our relation though.
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On your budget you can travel around the US pretty liberally, there's a lot to see out here. Don't forget you can couchsurf, and there's the gatherings.
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Ya who knows who knocked up who in the past. Even Hitler's true father is debated.
Some of my ancestors came from border areas. I'm mostly Irish, but got a shit load of other European decent.
There are hardly any Irish people in my city. A few but we all identify as American and hardly have a clue what that entails. Usually just death and taxes!
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Morel Guy]
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I'm not really eager to find the places where my ancestors used to live. They were probably boring places anyways, and I don't know who my ancestors were anyways because my family hasn't done any genealogy that I know of.
@Repertoire: What do you mean by "the gatherings"?
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Interesting point, infidelity may be a grand equalizer in genealogy
My family history is pretty meticulous, even on the surface I'm mixed... part of the family has been in America since before the Jihad of 1860, but I wouldn't identify as American. Being in Spain and Germany, I felt more at home than I've ever felt in the states.
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@Repertoire: What do you mean by "the gatherings"?
Shroomery gatherings, I've only met one person from here, but I know a few from IRL. This place tends to attract interesting and moderately intelligent people.
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I've been to rainbow gatherings.
I just want to know if there is any power in my gene pool. If anybody worth a rats ass exists or ever has existed.
It is sad that people lost heritage and tradition traveling to America. I wonder how many came here due to being criminals.
Rumor has it that on my Grandpa's side, the french part, were one of the first families in Ohio.
I have Amish, German, Swiss, Irish, and some other shit which is not clear. Kinda wanna clear it up and only DNA tests will determine that.
Who knows, you could be next in line for a thrown somewhere.
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I would find it interesting to have a DNA test, and I do know most of my ancestry...but I don't really care to travel to some no-name village in Europe just to meet people who shared a great(x10) grandfather with me.
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Why? Maybe your distant relatives are hot and kinky!
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Morel Guy]
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Maybe u can take a trip to Peru for an ayahuasca ceremony, or visit their ruins. I'd probably prefer to take a trip to south Mexico to check out the ancient Mayan civilizations and what not.
3000 bucks in Mexico is a lot money.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: zZZz]
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Cartels.
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Idk why but I read this title as advice on meth? But you can travel pretty cheap in the states.
I've made it to okc on 200$. Only gas and $ for cigs lots of amphetamine and water and weed of course I stopped in Ohio at a campground snuck in and parked for free... Got to okc the next day.
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My advice is to do it.
As much as possible as often as possible as long as possible and as young as possible .
As many places as possible.
Go somewhere with gorgeous nature and somewhere that your money will go father (where your currency is more valuable )
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It's not that bad over there. U just gotta mind ur own business and make friends with the locals, they'll keep u safe.
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Hit up Thailand or somewhere in SE Asia.. where you can live lavishly on the cheap
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Hit up Thailand or somewhere in SE Asia.. where you can live lavishly on the cheap
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Morel Guy]
#23723346 - 10/09/16 07:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Anyone here have experience on renting an RV?
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If traveling the States: Gas Buddy will help you calculate your adventures.
Couch Surfing connects you to those willing to put you up for the night. Although free, I would recommend cooking a meal, gifting some beer, etc.
Check tire pressure on the regular. When have you last had a oil change?
Pack lots of water, power bars, fresh fruit. Include a pee jug just in case. I keep a garbage bag so that everything stays organized.
Familiarize yourself with attractions (national parks, neat cities, giant ball off twine, etc) that you will be rolling through enroute to your destination.
Take lots of pictures, keep a traveler's journal to ensure preservation of your trip.
Watch your speed, above all else have fun!
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Great post. Thanks for the tips.
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Once you see the giant ball off twine you can pretty much stop traveling IMO.
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If your in the states i would hit up central america or puerto rico, you can stay in hostels and bus around cheaply and got to different places volcanos, jungles, beaches, cities, ruins, and food and beer and weed are pretty cheap, flights to and from are cheap too. You can comfortably travel for a month or two with $3,000 depending on your style if you go to guatemala, nicaragua, costa rica, panama, etc.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Moonshoe]
#23724345 - 10/10/16 06:54 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: Once you see the giant ball off twine you can pretty much stop traveling IMO.
No way dude. They add like a thousand yards of new twine to that thing every year. If you haven't seen the giant twine ball in the last few years, you haven't seen it at all.
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Just because this is the shroomery i think its worth saying: its not worth it to bring a personal stash of drugs to another country.
Good luck. Where do you want to go? Somewhere with a history, a vacation spot, a place that you can spend time in nature, somewhere with food you like?
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23724667 - 10/10/16 10:05 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Alright so I've travelled quite a bit on my own so I'll try to help out where I can.
You said you have about $3k right?
I'd maybe suggest somewhere in Southeast Asia. If you really look around and put some effort into it you can get a round trip flight from the US for like $500 ($800 is a bit more typical) but with $2000 you could easily stay a month and live fairly decently in a lot of countries. You could go around Indonesia to places like Bali then island hop some small islands , take in some gorgeous nature and party a bit too if you wanted.
No matter where you go I'd suggest staying in a hostel. They're cheap and it gives you a ton of opportunities to meet fellow travelers. I've traveled solo plenty of times and met people in hostels that are down to go out with, check out local tour spots, or just chat. Use hostelworld.com or hostels.com to do some research and book before hand. Or you can try out Couchsurfing like someone else mentioned above.
As far as documents make sure you have copies of your passport on you at all times and lock up your passport in a locker at the hostel or in your room if you have a private one (staying in dorms is cheaper and a great way to meet people but sometimes it's nice to have your own room). Most places you can just get a visa before hand but some require you to get it before you leave the US so check on that to make sure.
Don't be afraid to rough it a bit and get out of your comfort zone. There might be some really poor places you visit and it may make you uncomfortable. Just keep a level head and be aware of your surroundings. But at the same time be open to things....some group of people you just met that morning are going on a hike and invited you to come along? 8 times out of 10 go do it but just use common sense and your intuition if these people are legit. Usually if it's another group of foreigners you'll be completely fine. Be aware that some locals will try to scam you or whatever no matter where you are so just be smart.
Ummm what else...
Make sure to set a travel notice on your bank cards and find out how much they charge for international withdrawals and uses. I've found the easiest way to bring money is just to use my US card at an arm in the foreign country and take out enough for a few days at a time.
If you're staying for awhile some places (especially in SA and SEA) it's worth it to get a local SIM card to use for Internet. It can be very cheap and you don't want to pay international roaming rates with your American sim. Make sure your phone is unlocked or just buy a cheap one to use before you go
I usually make sure to print out everything I might need before hand. Hotel addresses, directions to the hotel from the airport, etc.
Do some research before hand and plan a loose itinerary of what you want to do. Be flexible though because some things will come up randomly and you want to have the option to do those if you want.
For food, one good rule of thumb is if a place is busy it's probably 1) delicious and 2) relatively safe. However your in a foreign place and your stomach just isn't used to everything they have so you assume you'll get the shits at least once. Be sure to stock up on Imodium and any things else you think you might need (Advil, tums, Benadryl). You don't want a case of the runs or a cold to stop you from enjoying yourself. But recognize that you might have to take a day or two to just rest sometimes.
As far as where specifically to go...for Southeast Asia I think the Philippines are really beautiful (and cheap) as well as Indonesia.
You could feasibly do a trip across Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos on your budget. It might be a little tight but that'd be the best bet if you wanted to see a lot of different places. South America is a good choice as well...I haven't been but I've heard awesome things about Costa Rica, Ecuador, and Peru (and most of the other countries there as well) Also Central America is another option as well...Guatemala is a gorgeous country with some really cool people as well
That's all I can think of off the top of my head, let me know if you have any other questions. And if you want I'll even make an itinerary of sorts for you if you choose a place you want to go
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Oldgregg]
#23724876 - 10/10/16 11:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So far I have been in costa rica, mexico, thailand, nicaragua, antigua, dominican republic, germany, italy, switzerland, holland , trinidad, tobago and belgium.
All were short trips though.
All were amazing. I would recommend nicaragua the most perhaps.
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rickpsfuckyou said: If your in the states i would hit up central america or puerto rico, you can stay in hostels and bus around cheaply and got to different places volcanos, jungles, beaches, cities, ruins, and food and beer and weed are pretty cheap, flights to and from are cheap too. You can comfortably travel for a month or two with $3,000 depending on your style if you go to guatemala, nicaragua, costa rica, panama, etc.
For some reason I'm kind of sketched out about going through central and south America. I feel like there's a lot of crime and ways to be taken advantage of down there. Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about though. However, some people have said that you could travel down there a lot cheaper because you wouldn't need a plane ticket. But driving down there means going through Mexico, which to the best of my knowledge is not very safe.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23726577 - 10/10/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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BANANA.MAN said: Just because this is the shroomery i think its worth saying: its not worth it to bring a personal stash of drugs to another country.
Good luck. Where do you want to go? Somewhere with a history, a vacation spot, a place that you can spend time in nature, somewhere with food you like?
All of the above really...I guess places with history (such as those in Europe) are the highest on my bucket list. I suppose it might be wise to start small though, especially with my limited budget. I don't seek expensive luxury places, I seek life experiences and inspiration. I want to visit places that remind me of how vast the world is.
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Just traveling to another state is already a big deal, you can always make more frequent short trips Like 1 week here and there
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BANANA.MAN said: Just because this is the shroomery i think its worth saying: its not worth it to bring a personal stash of drugs to another country.
Good luck. Where do you want to go? Somewhere with a history, a vacation spot, a place that you can spend time in nature, somewhere with food you like?
All of the above really...I guess places with history (such as those in Europe) are the highest on my bucket list. I suppose it might be wise to start small though, especially with my limited budget. I don't seek expensive luxury places, I seek life experiences and inspiration. I want to visit places that remind me of how vast the world is.
If you want history then i would suggest the Mediterranean. Someone said asia was a good place for your budget so you could go to angkor wat in cambodia
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Oldgregg]
#23726627 - 10/10/16 08:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oldgregg said: Alright so I've travelled quite a bit on my own so I'll try to help out where I can.
You said you have about $3k right?
I'd maybe suggest somewhere in Southeast Asia. If you really look around and put some effort into it you can get a round trip flight from the US for like $500 ($800 is a bit more typical) but with $2000 you could easily stay a month and live fairly decently in a lot of countries. You could go around Indonesia to places like Bali then island hop some small islands , take in some gorgeous nature and party a bit too if you wanted.
No matter where you go I'd suggest staying in a hostel. They're cheap and it gives you a ton of opportunities to meet fellow travelers. I've traveled solo plenty of times and met people in hostels that are down to go out with, check out local tour spots, or just chat. Use hostelworld.com or hostels.com to do some research and book before hand. Or you can try out Couchsurfing like someone else mentioned above.
As far as documents make sure you have copies of your passport on you at all times and lock up your passport in a locker at the hostel or in your room if you have a private one (staying in dorms is cheaper and a great way to meet people but sometimes it's nice to have your own room). Most places you can just get a visa before hand but some require you to get it before you leave the US so check on that to make sure.
Don't be afraid to rough it a bit and get out of your comfort zone. There might be some really poor places you visit and it may make you uncomfortable. Just keep a level head and be aware of your surroundings. But at the same time be open to things....some group of people you just met that morning are going on a hike and invited you to come along? 8 times out of 10 go do it but just use common sense and your intuition if these people are legit. Usually if it's another group of foreigners you'll be completely fine. Be aware that some locals will try to scam you or whatever no matter where you are so just be smart.
Ummm what else...
Make sure to set a travel notice on your bank cards and find out how much they charge for international withdrawals and uses. I've found the easiest way to bring money is just to use my US card at an arm in the foreign country and take out enough for a few days at a time.
If you're staying for awhile some places (especially in SA and SEA) it's worth it to get a local SIM card to use for Internet. It can be very cheap and you don't want to pay international roaming rates with your American sim. Make sure your phone is unlocked or just buy a cheap one to use before you go
I usually make sure to print out everything I might need before hand. Hotel addresses, directions to the hotel from the airport, etc.
Do some research before hand and plan a loose itinerary of what you want to do. Be flexible though because some things will come up randomly and you want to have the option to do those if you want.
For food, one good rule of thumb is if a place is busy it's probably 1) delicious and 2) relatively safe. However your in a foreign place and your stomach just isn't used to everything they have so you assume you'll get the shits at least once. Be sure to stock up on Imodium and any things else you think you might need (Advil, tums, Benadryl). You don't want a case of the runs or a cold to stop you from enjoying yourself. But recognize that you might have to take a day or two to just rest sometimes.
As far as where specifically to go...for Southeast Asia I think the Philippines are really beautiful (and cheap) as well as Indonesia.
You could feasibly do a trip across Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos on your budget. It might be a little tight but that'd be the best bet if you wanted to see a lot of different places. South America is a good choice as well...I haven't been but I've heard awesome things about Costa Rica, Ecuador, and Peru (and most of the other countries there as well) Also Central America is another option as well...Guatemala is a gorgeous country with some really cool people as well
That's all I can think of off the top of my head, let me know if you have any other questions. And if you want I'll even make an itinerary of sorts for you if you choose a place you want to go
Thanks a whole lot man, that's some really good advice. I may take you up on that offer in the distant future, although I don't know when that would be.
As far as my budget, my estimate is that I'll have roughly 2-3K by next summer but that's a really rough estimate.
And as for travel destinations, I've always wanted to visit Singapore, although that's probably expensive as hell. The thing is I don't know a lot about southeast Asia in general, besides that many areas are really swampy/marshy and poor. My opinion might change if I went there, but as of now there are other places I would rather go. Still I will keep that in mind though.
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Some advice:
Bring lots of cash and a debit card/credit card with lots of money.
Bring some durable clothes. And a wide selection. Bring large luggage to bring things home. Or you can pack light and not bring cool stuff home.
Watch out for scammers. Lots of scammers when u travel, trying to take yo money.
wear protection when banging the locals.
Bring a camera, take lots and lots of pictures.
If u go international, bring some internatinal chargers. they have different style plugs abroad.
Be spontanous!
Did i mention to bring lots of money? U will need it.
Lastly, think twice about smuggling drugs to or from a country. It may be too risky for it.
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Celestial Traveler
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Really how am I going to carry around a shitton of things in a foreign country? Its not like my car will get airlifted there...and if I'm staying in a hostel, can I really expect that much security for my belongings?
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Celestial Traveler said: I have hardly ever traveled throughout my life. The couple of times that I did travel happened mostly when I was very young and as a result I don't remember much. Also, I have never been outside the U.S. I moved around a ton growing up, but I almost always lived in the same state, and only spent a few years living in small towns in neighboring states.
A lot of the people who lived where where I've lived were the type who were born and raised in those places, and I don't want to be like them. Some recent events in my life have also suggested to me that I really need to get out and see some new things.
Having no real experience traveling on my own, can you give me advice on this subject? Any advice at all would be appreciated...I would like to plan a trip for next summer after I graduate with my MS. I will not have much money though...I would estimate around $2-3K at most.
The main things I'd like to know more about are how to travel in a foreign country (what documents I need, etc.), and how to travel on a budget, while at the same time not missing out on important sights or experiences related to my destination.
Suggestions on where to travel would be nice too. Anything you have to offer really.
Thanks for your time.
My sister has been all over the world. I'm not qualified to answer such questions. But what I know is she had to work constantly. Graduate valedictorian while working at McDonald's and baby sitting.
I rarely see her anymore. Barely even talk much. Constantly busy. My sister is cool as shit. But I like making money and having a warm place to sleep at night.
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Celestial Traveler said: Really how am I going to carry around a shitton of things in a foreign country? Its not like my car will get airlifted there...and if I'm staying in a hostel, can I really expect that much security for my belongings?
You don't. I've moved states 4 times. Anything you cant fit in a suit case. And backpack has to go. I've never really owned much of anything of value as I'm not going to fucking carry it. Back pack suitcase.
Roll your clothes less surface area. It's not an easy task but you can't really complain. If it's something you want to do. Sell your valuable shit and move along again. I'm doing it again now.
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U could carry a large bag or a large internal frame backpack.
If u are travelling on foot or by thumb then ya pack lite. Also u could mail yourself cool things youve bought and hope they make it back to your house.
As for hostle safety not too sure about that. Definitely keep your valuables near your body maybe with some kind of vibration activated security device
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Exactly. I haven't owned a car in 4 years. Get used to walking a lot. Take what you can carry. I'm generally wearing a back pack at all times. As I travel a lot by foot and bus and I can keep things in there that I don't want to fucking carry.
Anything of value you just sell. I'm going through the process again. What do I actually need? Clothes.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Enjoywho]
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damn, i cant imagine selling all my stuff. That would be sad 
I like stuff, what can i say
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Trust me as do I. It's not an easy thing to do. I don't own a whole lot these days as ill probably do it again. Generally I have enough though. I keep my personal possessions to what I can fit in a backpack and suitcase.
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Wanted to come back to this thread because some of you were recommending Southeast Asia because of the low cost, and I found a place there (Vietnam) that I want to visit - Son Doong cave.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hang_S%C6%A1n_%C4%90o%C3%B2ng
https://www.google.com/search?site=&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=659&q=son+doong+cave&oq=son+doong+cave&gs_l=img.3..0l10.73914.77040.0.77135.26.13.4.8.5.0.144.1243.8j5.13.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..1.20.1200...0i8i30k1j0i10k1.V08vMEhLTiU#imgrc=_
Of course, cave exploration brings up some whole new caveats...but some of you said that SE Asia is relatively cheap to travel compared to other foreign places, correct?
I'm going to start doing my own research, but do you guys think there's anyway to explore this cave (with a relative degree of safety) without a tour guide?
And as a general question, what do you think of tour guides? I kind of figured that they would charge a premium on my travel expenses and take away from the level of independence I want.
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Tour guides are hit or miss. A lot in that part of the world will bring you to your destination but have a few "stops" on the way way at their buddy's shop where they try to get you to buy shit. Others can be really good though, just got to do your research.
Not sure about exploring he caves on your own...I wouldn't recommend it to be honest, maybe find another traveler when there to go with you at least
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Have you ever been caving? It can be extremely... extremely dangerous... depending entirely on the cave of course. But also extremely awesome. You never want to go caving alone, ever. Always with other people, preferably a group of 3-4. That's rule number one of caving.. never go alone.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Shroomism]
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Do you ever grub for coal when you're caving?
That would be the best part imo
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said: Have you ever been caving? It can be extremely... extremely dangerous... depending entirely on the cave of course. But also extremely awesome. You never want to go caving alone, ever. Always with other people, preferably a group of 3-4. That's rule number one of caving.. never go alone.
Oh man. I am a caver. When I first started, I did a bunch of solo trips because I didn't know anyone to go with. But agreed. 3 minimum. And 3 light sources. I've done through trips in Ellison's. 36 hour caving trip with multiple pits, including fantastic. Deepest free fall pit in the country. If any of you guys are ever in the TAG region and want to go caving, hit me up
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Some outdated however useful info in this thread I recommend scouring this site in general.
Think couchsufing.org has been mentioned?
Check out this site, too.
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Celestial Traveler said: Having no real experience traveling on my own, can you give me advice on this subject? Any advice at all would be appreciated...I would like to plan a trip for next summer after I graduate with my MS. I will not have much money though...I would estimate around $2-3K at most.
If you don't have very much money then I recommend going to Central or Latin America. Though $2K can get you to Asia or Europe, after airfare you really will only have enough money to go there for 1 week comfortably, or 2 weeks if you're penny pinching and couch-surfing and staying in nasty hostels. That is, unless you're in southeast Asia, since a little bit of money goes a long way. You actually have to TRY to make an effort to spend $20 a day in a place like Vietnam.
Europe is definitely possible on $3K but not $2k. You have to remember that the flight will be around $1,000, and you mentioned wanting to travel back and forth between countries. This is going to be a lot of money in train rides, cab fare, plane flights, ferries, etc. The EUrail in Europe you can buy an unlimited summer pass for like $500 if you're 25 years old or under. I think normal price is $700-$800. The EUrail allows you to travel back and forth from country to country, pretty much any country within the European Union except of course the UK, which you need to take a ferry to since it's an island.
You should definitely go with extra money instead of bordering on just being able to make it. Just in case you get pick pocketed and your passport gets stolen, or you miss your flight, or something happens.
With $2K you can easily go to Costa Rica or Panama for well over a month, even 2 months with good planning. You can also do ayahuasca retreats in some of these locations, some places like http://www.solcircle.org/ev/volunteer-program will host you for $390 a month if you do volunteer work for them. You can also get hostels for $10 a night, or even rent monthly apartments for $500 a month if you are looking to stay long term.
My next destination personally is going to be Costa Rica. With these types of sustainable living, co-op communes, and cheap hostels and hotels, it will enable me to spend about a month in the country for less than $1500.
I also recommend looking in to places like groupon.com and looking in the travel section. You can get great deals at some of these places. I've seen 10 day vacations in Costa Rica including rental car, resort hotel, unlimited alcohol and food, and airfare for $700. Or 4 day Iceland trips including airfare for $1500, 7 day Shanghai trips including airfare for $1800, etc. Consider giving these a shot.
The most expensive thing is the airfare, so whatever deal you get, make sure airfare is included.
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The main things I'd like to know more about are how to travel in a foreign country (what documents I need, etc.), and how to travel on a budget, while at the same time not missing out on important sights or experiences related to my destination.
All countries have their own individual laws, but you need a passport and a tourist visa. Certain countries such as Mexico, if you're driving in you won't be required to have a passport. Some countries like Costa Rica you will not need a visa for. You need to find out about the individual country specifically and what they require. To be on the safe side, call the embassy if you have any questions or need to ask the list of everything they require.
Edit: Also wanted to add that you should get one of these Scrubba portable laundry bags, it's a must have for any traveler or backpacker. It allows you to do laundry on the go pretty much anywhere, you just put your dirty clothes in with some water and detergent, shake for a minute, and then hang-dry somewhere.
https://www.amazon.com/Scrubba-Portable-Laundry-System-Wash/dp/B00BUI7HFC/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1476791918&sr=1-1&keywords=scrubba
When you do finally decide where to go, I can give you a lot more suggestions that are specific to the country you're going. For example, in Italy, there are outdoor carts where you can get fresh, handmade pasta or home-made wine for $2.
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Crystal G said: All countries have their own individual laws, but you need a passport and a tourist visa. Certain countries such as Mexico and Costa Rica you will not need a passport and visa for.
Passports are needed for costa rica and mexico.
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Celestial Traveler said: My thought is that if I go to see Europe one day, it would be most efficient to visit several different countries at one time, would you agree? Basically just to avoid wasting money on so many plane tickets...the problem is that once I get a job, there's no telling if/when I'll have the money and/or time to go on some massive EuroTrip.
You said I'll have around 1,000-1,500 after plane tickets - is that both there and back? Obviously I don't want to get stranded there....
If you want to see many countries in Europe, you should hold off on Europe until you can save at least $4-$5K. The ticket alone will cost you at least $1,000 round trip. And Europe isn't cheap either, even a hostel where you're sharing a place with 4 strangers in the same room will cost $30-$50 a night. Food and alcohol is also much more expensive in Europe than it is in America. Depending on the season plane tickets could cost much more. During the World Cup tickets to Europe were going for $5,000. And that was for economy, not business class or anything.
If you book your flight far enough ahead, you should be able to find tickets for cheap. Go in through Germany, they seem to have a lot of good deals traveling from NYC or LA to Berlin. I've seen round-trip tickets for as low as $700 when I was looking in November 6 months ahead.
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I was in London on the night of the world cup and plane tickets from Denver to Heathrow costed about 1.5k .
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Crystal G]
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OP, are you under 30 by chance? If so, did you know that Australia has a special "holiday work visa" specifically for tourists?
Basically, if you apply for it, as long as you are under 30, they will give you a special visa that allows you to work up to a year in the country. They give the visa to anybody that is under 30 and has at least $4K in the bank.
This way instead of traveling for a couple weeks, you get to live in another country long-term while at the same time making money. So you will be able to make a living, and see the entire country. There's a lot of things to do in Australia, from safaris to snorkeling around the Great Barrier reef, exploring cities like Sydney or Melbourne, etc. And there's also a large mushroom-hunting culture in Australia too.
And the benefit is that Australia will have no language barrier, so you don't have to learn a second language. And also, if you are living in Australia and want to go somewhere else, you can go to New Zealand for about $100.
You can also go to Papua New Guinea and Fiji for cheap from Australia, both of which are BEAUTIFUL destinations (Fiji is actually one location I'd love to visit one day), since they are close to Australia.
Just an example of some Fiji resort huts
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Crystal G]
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Thanks, you've given a shitton of advice. Yes I'm under 30...as far as your suggestions for Central and South America, I appreciate your recommendations but are those countries really safe? I'm pretty sure there are certain parts of Mexico that are not good to drive through...
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Celestial Traveler said: Thanks, you've given a shitton of advice. Yes I'm under 30...as far as your suggestions for Central and South America, I appreciate your recommendations but are those countries really safe? I'm pretty sure there are certain parts of Mexico that are not good to drive through...
You aren't going to die, probably. What's the fun of life if you let a pesky little thing like drug cartels get in the way of travel?
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Celestial Traveler said: Thanks, you've given a shitton of advice. Yes I'm under 30...as far as your suggestions for Central and South America, I appreciate your recommendations but are those countries really safe? I'm pretty sure there are certain parts of Mexico that are not good to drive through...
Some countries are exponentially safer than others. Countries like Mexico and Brazil are unsafe because of the Mexican mafia and problems with kidnapping, other countries don't have this type of problem. Obviously if you travel to Mexico I recommend staying at the resort, not exploring on your own.
Costa Rica is safe, Cuba is safe, Chile is safe, Argentina is safe, violent crime is more rare in Argentina than in Europe. In fact there's a huge baclacking community in Costa Rica and I'm planning on going as a single woman, what does that tell you?
And Mexico doesn't require a passport if you are driving in through the border, exactly like I said earlier. Costa Rica doesn't require a visa for Americans, which is what I also said earlier. *cough that's to the guy I blocked who keeps following me in every thread I post in and makes a subsequent post right after me cough* this is getting ridiculous, it's to the point that I can't even participate in threads like "insult the next poster below you" because this dude is so obsessed with me he always manages to post RIGHT after me in reply. The only reason I even read his shit was because I was logged out for a second, I'm glad I have him nignored.
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My sister did it. But she's riding off scholarships. Been all over and met her girlfriend that has to be financing it now. As she spent a year abroad in Brazil. Now she's explored Europe and etc.
But she worked her ass off. She's 3 years younger. Worked at McDonald's, babysat, and went to school full time. I had similar dreams but got into drugs.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Crystal G]
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*cough that's to the guy I blocked who keeps following me in every thread I post in and makes a subsequent post right after me cough* this is getting ridiculous, it's to the point that I can't even participate in threads like "insult the next poster below you" because this dude is so obsessed with me he always manages to post RIGHT after me in reply. The only reason I even read his shit was because I was logged out for a second, I'm glad I have him nignored.
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If you want I will insult you in this thread so that you don't feel left out crystal. IMO every thread should be an "insult the poster above you" thread.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Crystal G]
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Crystal just posts on the shroomery hoping I will come around and talk shit sorry I am too drunk right now I will get in trouble.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Crystal G]
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Crystal G said: And Mexico doesn't require a passport if you are driving in through the border, exactly like I said earlier. Costa Rica doesn't require a visa for Americans, which is what I also said earlier. *cough that's to the guy I blocked who keeps following me in every thread I post in and makes a subsequent post right after me cough* this is getting ridiculous, it's to the point that I can't even participate in threads like "insult the next poster below you" because this dude is so obsessed with me he always manages to post RIGHT after me in reply. The only reason I even read his shit was because I was logged out for a second, I'm glad I have him nignored.
I'm only here because you're giving really shitty information, like declaring the safety of Costa Rica relative to Mexico or pegging tickets at 3x their price. It's not becoming to use the "obsessed" defense, outdated and cliche. You put me on ignore because you couldn't win an argument, like a feckless bitch. It's not going to stop me from correcting your bullshit.
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What the fuck did you say to me? *:drankey: I will beat you with Crystal G's rotten smelly vagina
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His momma's so fat, she has her own center of gravity
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she is excellent at playing the victim card though, it probably works against 95% of people too.
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Her posts are too long for me to bother reading. So I guess due to ignorance, I don't have a problem with her. Now that sheeklefag on the other hand...
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azur said: Her posts are too long for me to bother reading. So I guess due to ignorance, I don't have a problem with her. Now that sheeklefag on the other hand...
Allow me to bring you up to speed. She raped someone by pulling out a handgun during sex while making them think it was loaded -- and she has some extremely sick sexual tastes, like assaulting handicapped people. Her advice is straight out of a buzzfeed article formed from jezebel's asshole.
Instead of owning up to that or defending it, she put me on ignore and claimed I was obsessed with her .
@moonrock
Come on, it could be a fun gangbang.
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azur said: Her posts are too long for me to bother reading. So I guess due to ignorance, I don't have a problem with her. Now that sheeklefag on the other hand...
Allow me to bring you up to speed. She raped someone by pulling out a handgun during sex while making them think it was loaded -- and she has some extremely sick sexual tastes, like assaulting handicapped people. Her advice is straight out of a buzzfeed article formed from jezebel's asshole.
Instead of owning up to that or defending it, she put me on ignore and claimed I was obsessed with her .
@moonrock
Come on, it could be a fun gangbang.
Damn. I think I wanna fuck this girl. Crystal, rape me (just don't get pregnant)
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That sounds like a good time to me.
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#23749963 - 10/18/16 07:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: PatrickKn]
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I'll pay her $500 cash if she can scientifically prove she's not a sociopath https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23625791#23625791.
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You can't scientifically prove any type of psychiatry dude. It's all educated opinions
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azur said: You can't scientifically prove any type of psychiatry dude. It's all educated opinions
There are certain biomarkers that researchers use to aid in the diagnosis. I don't need biomarkers though, it's pretty obvious.
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I'll paypal you $5 if you admit you like it when I call you a fuckboy.
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I like it when you call me a fuckboy. Pay up! BTC is preferred.
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sry I cant btc it pm me your home address and I will rape it to you.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Enjoywho]
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Celestial Traveler said: and if I'm staying in a hostel, can I really expect that much security for my belongings?
To answer your question regarding hostels, NO you cannot and should not expect security for your belongings. A lot of my friends have gotten items stolen from them in hostels, even things that you think are worthless like a basic cell phone.
I would not bring anything really expensive like a laptop or a professional-grade camera on your trip. Or if you do, bring it everywhere with you, even with you when you shower or go to the bathroom real quick. Same goes for your wallet and passport obviously.
Such items should always be in your backpack and you should do what most women do with purses, and take it everywhere with you when you're not at home.
This is one of the reasons I've always been wary of staying in hostels, that and bed bugs and other pests are a common problem in hostels. I would much rather AirBNB and have my own private room and pay slightly extra, especially in Latin America or southeast Asia where AirBNB shouldn't run you more than $20-$25 a night for what you're looking for. I've seen AirBNB in some of these locations for $10 for your own private room.
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Crystal G said: All countries have their own individual laws, but you need a passport and a tourist visa. Certain countries such as Mexico and Costa Rica you will not need a passport and visa for.
Passports are needed for costa rica and mexico.
Correct only US terrories like Puerto Rico and the South Pacific Island of Guam do not require passports.
if u travel there, u could save some money for not needing a passport 
Speaking of pacific islands, try Hawaii. Used to live there, its a very lovely place to visit for sure. Paradise.
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I'd rather set up camp in the woods by myself than stay in a dark dingy hostel with a bunch of weirdos I've never met
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I'm only here because you're giving really shitty information, like declaring the safety of Costa Rica relative to Mexico or pegging tickets at 3x their price. It's not becoming to use the "obsessed" defense, outdated and cliche. You put me on ignore because you couldn't win an argument, like a feckless bitch. It's not going to stop me from correcting your bullshit.
You're clearly incapable of reading, which I don't blame you for, because you obviously must have mental deficit problems to be obsessed enough to follow around a stranger on the internet.
I never quoted ticket prices for Costa Rica OR Mexico either. I quoted roughly $1,000 for tickets to Europe. I never said Mexico is safe either, I said Costa Rica is safe, Mexico is not. Holy fuck, are you fucking illiterate or what? I'd much rather be a "feckless" bitch than a retarded, illiterate bitch.
There is nothing to correct except your shitty reading reminiscent to the level of a 4 year old.
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Allow me to bring you up to speed. She raped someone by pulling out a handgun during sex while making them think it was loaded -- and she has some extremely sick sexual tastes, like assaulting handicapped people. Her advice is straight out of a buzzfeed article formed from jezebel's asshole.
Instead of owning up to that or defending it, she put me on ignore and claimed I was obsessed with her
It's not the fact that you brought it up or ever criticized me, literally hundreds of people have criticized me before on this forum and I've had no problem with it.
It's the fact that you bring it up in literally EVERY. SINGLE. FUCKING. THREAD in response to me. Case in point, you even manage to bring it up in THIS thread, which has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO with ANY of what you said. Like holy shit, there is no way better way you could have absolutely proven my point there.
Literally you bring it up EVERY TIME I've asked you to leave me alone.
Basically at this point, you're just using it as your fake bullshit excuse to continue harassing me. Because there's no way, NO WAY, you legitimately care THAT MUCH about some shit that I did almost 10 years ago.
It's to the point that other members have even told you to back off, to quit stalking me and obsessing over me. It's fucking pathetic. Get a fucking life.
Not to mention, half the shit that you accuse me of is just flat-out inaccurate. "Sick sexual tastes like assaulting handicapped people?" I made a thread about a guy in a wheelchair I wanted to date and have sex with, because I thought he was hot. I talked about him the exact same fucking way I would any other hot guy who I was interested in. Way to take the thread COMPLETELY out of context, because I have no fucking clue how you read some of the dumbass shit you do.
And by the way that dude was yolked and could have fucked my ass up even with no legs. He was the one who messaged me asking to go out, it's not like he was some helpless feeble little cripple who was being preyed upon like you make it out to be. Fuck you talking about, "assaulting" handicapped people. Fucking moron.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Crystal G]
#23750878 - 10/19/16 12:26 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: Speaking of pacific islands, try Hawaii. Used to live there, its a very lovely place to visit for sure. Paradise.
Hawaii is a great place for people who are unable to get a passport or are on a limited budget or want to stay in the safety of the USA. If you are traveling from the West coast, round trip tickets should only cost $500. If you are traveling from the East Coast, it will cost a lot more, around $800 or $900. But, there should also be plenty of vacation deals including hotel and meals and airfare for cheap to Hawaii regardless of where you are within the USA.
It's basically a tropical island, so it can be very similar to visiting some parts of southeast Asia or South America, without safety issues or the cultural or language barrier.
Basically, where OP should go depends on what kind of travel and adventure he is looking for.
If he is more of an outdoorsy or sporty person, and likes to do things like hunting, kayaking, surfing, snorkeling, backpacking, going to nature parks or safaris, Great White shark cage diving, skydiving, etc., then he should either go to South Africa, Central America, Australia, or Hawaii. Getting to Africa and Australia is too expensive in terms of airfare, so this narrows it down to Central America or Hawaii, unless he is considering the 6-12 month "holiday working visa" in Australia.
If he is looking for more of a place that is rich in history, with great museums, art, rich cultural food, and pristine buildings, then he should either go to Europe or Asia. Since budgeting is an issue, he should consider southeast Asia--places like Vietnam, Thailand, Laos, etc.
If he is looking for a place to go nightclubbing and party, and maybe enjoy a few Michelin star restaurants, then he should stay in the USA and go to NYC or San Francisco.
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Have you ever actually stayed in a hostel or are you just wary of them from what you've heard?
Hostels are great OP and there are plenty of awesome ones that are clean and safe. Just do some research before hand and you'll be fine
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Oldgregg]
#23752166 - 10/19/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah I mean hotels have pest and bedbugs too. The only time I ever encountered bedbugs is in a hotel, and I have stayed at a bunch of hostels. Hostels usually have rubber mattresses and sparse furniture which makes bedbugs easy to eradicate.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Oldgregg]
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Oldgregg said: Have you ever actually stayed in a hostel or are you just wary of them from what you've heard?
I've stayed in them, but I've always paid a little extra to get my own private room.
Actually not always, a couple times I did get the shared rooms, but that was because they were completely booked out of the private ones.
But yes, you should always be careful of getting your stuff stolen in hostels. You have to remember that almost everybody staying there are foreigners, so if they did manage to steal something expensive of yours and fly out of the country, practically nothing could be done about it.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Crystal G]
#23753182 - 10/19/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah watch out for terrorists too. Most people that stay in hostels are communists.
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An Australian friend of mine got his entire backpack stolen from a San Francisco hostel. Guy who he suspects stole it had a German passport, so of course once he left no charges could really be filed. Just make sure if you stay in a hostel you always take your valuables with you even when you go to the bathroom.
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moonrockmushy said: Yeah watch out for terrorists too. Most people that stay in hostels are communists.
Are they also the gay?
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Crystal G]
#23756242 - 10/20/16 09:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It would be nice to bring a sleeping bag and just camp out places. Since I've hardly traveled throughout my life it might be best to start small with a Western Hemisphere trip. That way I could sleep in my car. I don't want to be on edge about people stealing my stuff all the time.
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Camping is great, much better than a hostel or cheap motel. I used to take a big setup with tables, canopies, showers, and chairs. Now I have a backpacking pack and I can put everything I need in there including food. I have a lightweight camping hammock and sleeping bag with an inflatable pillow that are great for stealth camping. It can all fit into your trunk too.
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natures is everywhere. what is the point of travelling if you can live a bit within the culture...enjoy their dining...visit historical sites and museums? what's the point of just camping? one can camp anywhere, and it's the same experience. you need to bring food, and water, and supplies, and you live like you would just about anywhere. if you can't afford to experience the culture, i don't see the point in travelling far and wide.
it's generally expensive, why try and save money on a trip that isn't worth it to begin with. might as well be able to afford a trip that's worth it -- not stay at a hostel and have only enough money to walk around and eat street food. i mean, one assumes that one can't even speak the language...seriously, what is the point? just to get lost? you can do that anyway, anywhere, no plane ticket necessary, just pick a direction and go.
my point is: that travelling abroad is not always feasible and is not always necessary, because travelling in-country can be just as fulfilling.
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Nature is different everywhere too dude
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: azur]
#23756408 - 10/20/16 10:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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yes, but are you really seeing things differently simply being there, and not being able to experience the culture...you need money to spend to do that, and if you're strapped for money, your experience is limited to something you can find easily within your reach, currently, with no plane ticket needed.
sure the flora may be different elsewhere, but if that's all one is going to pay good money to travel for, i just...don't see what the big deal is. unless you're a botanist or interested in geography, i don't see how it's even relevant. i mean, travelling, in and of itself can be fun, but why spend lots of money on something you can do for less money? if travel is the only thing one is doing...again, seeing the sights and sounds of nature, in a different clime than one is used to, that might be cool -- but is it worth the expenditure if you can't do anything else in that new clime other than move around? that's not really exploring a culture, it's just exploring geography, at that point.
when there is plenty of geography unexplored by one, in one's almost immediate vicinity, ie, one's current landmass.
i'm just saying, if you can't afford to eat out, eat in, sleep in, roll with the natives, or at least afford to stay in the city to experience the culture, well, the "culture" you'd experience is similar to the "culture" you can explore in your own backyard. point is, there's no difference between the two places, if you can't understand the language, or at least pay to have a representation of the culture's finer points, such as cuisine, attractions, and amenities. such as wine, or dance....just sitting at a camp or hostel, deciding whether to eat out of a can, or fetch something you could have got in a corner of main street, anywhere, USA? if you can't stay in at least a decent hotel, it seems like one would be putting themselves out, for no good reason. -- basically just because they can. it's like going to Spain, not for the Tapas, not for the bars, but for the sake of sitting around a camp fire. it just seems like you can do that without going to Spain. point is, you need to be able to afford to have the trip and actually do shit on the trip, if you're not going to a kind of resort, and are actually going to trip around an exotic cityscape. (unless you can rely on someone to show you around, and introduce you to the culture, maybe a friend or someone -- that seems infinitely easier than going alone)
i might be over thinking it. i just wanted to add my thoughts here. (and of course, i don't see why someone can't go to Spain to sit at a campfire...i'm just wandering, is it really worth it?)
my point is: that travelling abroad is not always feasible and is not always necessary, because travelling in-country can be just as fulfilling.
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The nature is completely different in different regions, and camping saves money on a hotel which could go to doing other things. When I travel, I'm more interested in meeting locals, going to local shows and being out in nature.
Restaurants and statues are very secondary, hotels are an ugly necessity if anything.
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local shows, that sounds great. meeting locals, sounds like a bore.
and nature is not different...as i said, the flora and fauna are different; the nature remains the same, however. you're not visiting an alien planet. you're switching between geographical locations...the nature of those two points are not any different...the ecology might be....
but the ecology in your own region can sustain your interest the same.
i don't see the point, unless you're interested in anthropology, to visit a culture to just mingle with the people. nothing is accomplished, save managing expenses, and expressing your inability to meld into the cultural experience...a total outsider. i don't see what there is to learn or value there, other than, i suppose, escapism. movement. but you can do that anywhere.
if i had a particular place i wanted to go and visit, and learn about, to experience the culture...that one place can make a whole lifetime of discovery...but unless you take time to experience the culture, you're merely skimming it's surface, skimming a surface that you can't penetrate, nor immerse yourself in...then where to next. it seems very superficial and surface, to me. and to me, it doesn't seem viable, unless you are well-off financially, to travel the world, and/or to visit a place simply to skim the surface.
unless there is a real reason to make the cost worthwhile, such as a real escape (no half-stepping), maybe finding romance (cavorting is always fun, and potentially life changing), being able to afford experience the whole culture, and not just a portion of it, whilst being incapable of communicating with anyone on a more than touristy basis. living there, staying there, for an extended period of time, for example.
if you're just visiting for a short time, there isn't enough time to really immerse yourself, and it just ends up being a moot attempt at escapism, and puts a hole in your wallet.
i see why people want to do it. i just think it's a waste. you're life isn't going to be any different after your travels, and will not have been any better than if you had just immersed yourself in your community at home...you have nature there. you have people there. you have everything you need there. to leave it, and explore, sounds like fun to just about anyone. that's why people flock for this idealised escapism.
but it ends up becoming a waste of time...to me. to me, that is enough to warrant me calling that a burden. it might not be a burden to you, to spend your time skimming the surface of experience a different culture...cultures that, the more you look at them, the less apparently apart they seem.
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Your perspective on travel is boring, I find it thrilling to travel and meet new people, experience diverse ecosystems, cultures and habitats. A few days or a few years.
Travel stimulates the mind and the emotions, there's nothing to analyze, and no reason to dichotomize.
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akira_akuma said: local shows, that sounds great. meeting locals, sounds like a bore.
and nature is not different...as i said, the flora and fauna are different; the nature remains the same, however. you're not visiting an alien planet. you're switching between geographical locations...the nature of those two points are not any different...the ecology might be....
but the ecology in your own region can sustain your interest the same.
i don't see the point, unless you're interested in anthropology, to visit a culture to just mingle with the people. nothing is accomplished, save managing expenses, and expressing your inability to meld into the cultural experience...a total outsider. i don't see what there is to learn or value there, other than, i suppose, escapism. movement. but you can do that anywhere.
if i had a particular place i wanted to go and visit, and learn about, to experience the culture...that one place can make a whole lifetime of discovery...but unless you take time to experience the culture, you're merely skimming it's surface, skimming a surface that you can't penetrate, nor immerse yourself in...then where to next. it seems very superficial and surface, to me. and to me, it doesn't seem viable, unless you are well-off financially, to travel the world, and/or to visit a place simply to skim the surface.
unless there is a real reason to make the cost worthwhile, such as a real escape (no half-stepping), maybe finding romance (cavorting is always fun, and potentially life changing), being able to afford experience the whole culture, and not just a portion of it, whilst being incapable of communicating with anyone on a more than touristy basis. living there, staying there, for an extended period of time, for example.
if you're just visiting for a short time, there isn't enough time to really immerse yourself, and it just ends up being a moot attempt at escapism, and puts a hole in your wallet.
i see why people want to do it. i just think it's a waste. you're life isn't going to be any different after your travels, and will not have been any better than if you had just immersed yourself in your community at home...you have nature there. you have people there. you have everything you need there. to leave it, and explore, sounds like fun to just about anyone. that's why people flock for this idealised escapism.
but it ends up becoming a waste of time...to me. to me, that is enough to warrant me calling that a burden. it might not be a burden to you, to spend your time skimming the surface of experience a different culture...cultures that, the more you look at them, the less apparently apart they seem.
Spoken like someone who has never traveled outside their own city... The world is massive and extremely diverse. You can spend one hour in another culture and be transformed. It's about the experience. And the food. That's the first thing I do in another culture... and half the basis on which I judge them by... their food. And the people. The different customs and mannerisms. And the architecture. And about 5,000 other things You don't have to spend months/years living somewhere to get the "full experience", that's silly.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Shroomism]
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i mentioned the goddamn food. i think you're misapprehending what i am getting at. i think you can find transformation in escapism. sure. but is it the right kind of transformation; that's up to the individual.
i was more talking about weighing the value and costs of managing your time, and your finances, in regards to travelling the globe.
for example: you've picked your spot. have you visited many places other than Japan, and just how much more have you immersed yourself in THAT culture, relative to how much you've skimmed into other cultures, besides Nippon?
this is what i am talking about. i'm not saying people shouldn't travel, that it's a waste of time. i'm just saying, i think most people do waste their time thinking that travelling the globe is going to somehow automatically make their lives better, or help them gain insight about themselves and the world...this doesn't fucking necessarily happen. yet people presume to go the route all the time.
PS: i've been outside my own city. literally directly outside my own city, is plenty of unexplored tracks, trails, and forests...rivers, lakes, ect....i go to Quebec, boom, completely different than where i am now. so wtf do you say about that?
i don't have to leave my country, and there is plenty of exploring to be done and cultures to immerse in.
i never said it wasn't a fine thing to travel. you completely misapprehended my post. i know it's long and rambling but...it was fun to write. you could at least, if you're gonna presume that i don't know what i am talking about, address what i am saying directly, and not strawman me. but it's ok. i understand the misapprehension is not intentional.
my point is: that travelling abroad is not always feasible and is not always necessary, because travelling in-country can be just as fulfilling.
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Repertoire89 said: Your perspective on travel is boring, I find it thrilling to travel and meet new people, experience diverse ecosystems, cultures and habitats. A few days or a few years.
a few days is not enough to absorb anything. and sure it's thrilling to travel and meet new people. it's not always worth it. that's what i am talking about...what worth there is in it. not the thrill. the thrill is always there...it's intrinsic in the movement of travel, period. buy a travelogue.
or just be nomadic. i don't give a fuck. that's you, that's you. do you. but i'm not talking about your perspective, i'm talking about mine...and i'm not shitting on you for travelling...not even in the least. if you thought so, that's your own projections.
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Travel stimulates the mind and the emotions, there's nothing to analyze, and no reason to dichotomize.
exactly. there isn't any reason to analyse or dichotomize. travel stimualtes the mind, period. no need to leave the country. so what's your point? you're basically in agreement with the premise i am presenting here.
sorry if my thoughts made anyone upset with their perspective, or mine, on travelling the world. just thought i'd add something to the thread, to be sussed, instead of just repeating what we all already know.
travelling is fun!
yeah...no shit.
here ends the page of Akira's sussing.
we can all go back to the short posts of yore, of what is already foreknown. peace be upon you, and pieces of peace to appease the peas.
my point is: that travelling abroad is not always feasible and is not always necessary, because travelling in-country can be just as fulfilling.
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Sometimes travel does make your life better though. It helps to get a different perspective on things and can give you time to sort your mind and provide you new experiences. Sitting in the same damn town for your entire life is fucking boring as fuck and stagnates the soul. I have friends I grew up with still living in the same small city we grew up in and have never really left or traveled much further than out of the state.. experience different things goddamn.
Considering the vast majority of Americans don't even have passports, I don't think this "travel is gonna make my life better" is some sort of prevalent mentality. Most people don't travel. Most people are perfectly content to live in the same city for most of their life and might move a couple times. If anything people need to do more of it, Americans/Westerners in particular are sheltered as fuck from the rest of the world and seem to have the same mentality you do.. why do I need to travel when I have everything here? That's not the point.
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i mentioned the goddamn aliment. i cerebrate you're misapprehending what i am getting at. i cerebrate you can find transformation in escapism. sure. but is it the right kind of transformation; that's up to the individual.
i was more verbalizing about weighing the value and costs of managing your time, and your finances, in regards to travelling the globe.
for example: you've picked your spot. have you visited many places other than Japan, and just how much more have you immersed yourself in THAT culture, relative to how much you've skimmed into other cultures, besides Nippon?
this is what i am verbalizing about. i'm not verbally expressing people shouldn't peregrinate, that it's a waste of time. i'm just saying, i cerebrate most people do waste their time cerebrating that travelling the globe is going to somehow automatically make their lives preponderant, or avail them gain insight about themselves and the world...this doesn't fucking obligatorily transpire. yet people surmise to go the route all the time.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Shroomism]
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Considering the vast majority of Americans don't even have passports, I don't think this "travel is gonna make my life better" is some sort of prevalent mentality.
most people, if their life is off the rails, tend to want a different locale. this can be as simple as moving down the road, but...it usually isn't that simple.
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If anything people need to do more of it, Americans/Westerners in particular are sheltered as fuck from the rest of the world and seem to have the same mentality you do.. why do I need to travel when I have everything here? That's not the point.
i get you. but i am not saying the point is in having everything at home. my point was that travel is intrinsic...you need not travel far or to any specific place. that is a mere predilection, a predilection that makes you feel better...but travelling alone, without any predilections, can produce the same "life altering", "perspective changing" effect -- and that is to say that travelling even within the borders of a nation can produce the same effect...and what i am arguing is that the means to travelling the world is not cost effective.
i'd argue that public transportation should be free, at least within the state or province one resides in, so that people could actually more readily afford and be more apt to travel, and for longer periods of time...not just for "vacation".
so you see, i'm not dissing travel...i think my point may have just got muddled in the thought process. i am getting tired. i write more then i am tired.
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although yet he understood me quite clear enough.
PS: someone, please, tell me, is this thread sacred? let me know, so i can continue to postulate how much travel needs be travelled and how much recreation is so recreational.
PPS: my point is: that travelling abroad is not always feasible and is not always necessary, because travelling in-country can be just as fulfilling.
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You used a lot of words to say nothing
Traveling 20miles isn't the same as 2000, I've lived in 6 states, visited who knows how many states, and something like 9 countries.
Many of the highlights of my life are on one day escapades through a foreign country, or on weekend hikes through other states, a disproportionate amount of the highlights are during distant travels.
Everything you invest in travel, you're getting back with interest.
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Agreed on all counts.
I've lived in 17 different states. US is fucking huge. Been to Mexico, Canada, Japan. Will eventually go to Italy, Spain, Switzerland, Germany, Netherlands, New Zealand and beyond. Most of the highlights of my life are during travels as well.
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i used a lot of words to write what i wanted to write. you don't have to fucking read it. your head is full enough, clearly. so just ignore me. i am going to write what i want to write.
case in point: if you can't afford to experience all the culture has to offer, the travelling is merely escapism, and fruitless at that. you go to a Mexican resort, that's fucking boring...you stay at a hostel and traverse the streets looking for people to listen to and watch speak their mannerisms...that's fucking boring. to me. (i can just watch a documentary and get the same effect. what is the point just watching people's mannerisms? get involved or what is the fucking point....)
which is just my goddamn opinion.
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Everything you invest in travel, you're getting back with interest.
clearly not. there is no return of investment in travelling. it's all expense. which is what i am talking about, and what i wish I could personally change, which if i could, i would...free public transport...hell, even free international transport. save on expenses. make travelling easier and better.
i am just thinking ahead. sorry. 
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Many of the highlights of my life are on one day escapades through a foreign country, or on weekend hikes through other states, a disproportionate amount of the highlights are during distant travels.
a result of your cognitive awareness. of course a memory of a single day in a foreign place is going to be more memorable, more of a highlight. no fucking shit. but is it worth it, in the end, well, not necessarily. you travel through some foreign country for a day, and you've only spent a day of your live living...not HARDLY that important, but just simply more MEMORABLE.
i'm sure you've had MORE important and memorable times in places where you've spent more time and effort to immerse yourself there; regardless of how much you tend to ingrain yourself in your travels. the more, the merrier...after all, that's your perspective on distance...i don't see how that doesn't correlate with time spent, as well. 
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I've lived in 17 different states. US is fucking huge. Been to Mexico, Canada, Japan. Will eventually go to Italy, Spain, Switzerland, Germany, Netherlands, New Zealand and beyond. Most of the highlights of my life are during travels as well.
yes, highlights...not the most important moments in your life, however. those moments come from fortitude and time. not whim. and if it stems from whim, it's whim with the knack of fortitude. afterall, whim, by definition, does not last.
my point is: that travelling abroad is not always feasible and is not always necessary, because travelling in-country can be just as fulfilling.
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lol you are such a goddamn negative nancy. How much have you traveled, since you are the expert on it? I assume you've been around the world 3 or 4 times to be able to make these claims that everywhere is basically the same and it's all escapism?
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Shroomism]
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see, i knew you'd call me that. i told you already...SORRY. i just put too much thought into a muddled idea i was propounding. no need to get YOUR panties into a twist, for me sharing my thoughts...afterall, this is a forum, right? no need to read my post if they'll just inherently piss you off. for me querying, frankly, the instance of travel being far too expensive for most people to get the full experience of another culture.
which is all i was getting at. which is full-well true.
that and one can easily stay in their country of origin and have as fulfilling a life as someone who's travelled alot. ie, "it's all a matter of perspective". which i'd wager you cannot inherently disagree with...so i don't know why the panties. but whatever. too much words, hurt brain ARGH@! 
my point is: that travelling abroad is not always feasible and is not always necessary, because travelling in-country can be just as fulfilling.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said: Agreed on all counts.
I've lived in 17 different states. US is fucking huge. Been to Mexico, Canada, Japan. Will eventually go to Italy, Spain, Switzerland, Germany, Netherlands, New Zealand and beyond. Most of the highlights of my life are during travels as well.
That's a lot of moving around, sounds like a good time
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That's a lot of moving around, sounds like a good time
case in point: it's a good time to you, because you find inherent value in the moving around part. you're nomadic.
good for you. seriously. good for you.
but i bet you do most of your moving around within the states. am i wrong?
my point is: that travelling abroad is not always feasible and is not always necessary, because travelling in-country can be just as fulfilling.
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I don't wear underwear and they aren't in a twist, I'm just making observations. Travel can be expensive yes but it doesn't have to be. I traveled all around the US on nothing. I moved to CA with $40 in my pocket. But I'm cool like that because I have street knowledge and stuff.. you know, from traveling. But it's all bullshit right. You can get a plane ticket to Iceland for $99.
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Travel doesn't have to be expensive
You underestimate the value of travel in and of itself, I can't explain to you why a painting pleases the eye
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Exactly. You can't put a value on raw experience. And travel can definitely be done on the cheap.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Shroomism]
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no i don't. like i said, which apparently your selective vision missed...i find travel to be enlightening...i just don't have to travel far. you seem to have a problem with that. sorry. i didn't mean for my expounding to trigger this sort of confrontation.
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Shroomism said: Exactly. You can't put a value on raw experience. And travel can definitely be done on the cheap.
EXACTLY. that's what i am saying. i will travel anywhere, and will feel the effects and the value of that travel. where do we disagree?
that travelling Europe is "cheap", i presume. cause it ain't. if it's so cheap...why aren't you travelling all those aforementioned destinations, right now? (PS: i know, negative, right? but i didn't say that travelling Europe and the globe is cheap...i know i didn't say that.) (though, i did say, that travelling on the cheap isn't as revelating or as valuable, or as immersive, as travelling with monies to experience the culture at it's fullest. -- at least not for me. for me, i can get what i'd get from that, by simply staying in country, and travelling within.)
my point is: that travelling abroad is not always feasible and is not always necessary, because travelling in-country can be just as fulfilling.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said: I assume you've been around the world 3 or 4 times to be able to make these claims that everywhere is basically the same and it's all escapism?
the flora and fauna are different. i said that already. i said "NATURE stays the same". thus the nature of the embodiment of travel (and it's effects) remains the same between ten miles, twenty miles, a hundred miles, a thousand miles; my point is it doesn't matter how far and wide you do...at least, in my opinion.
if you want to see different wildlife, different geography, different architecture (my favorite), you can...it's great fun. but the nature of the planet remains the same, thus there is no need to run to Japan to feel freer, or better, or whatever words you want to ascribe to the feeling of being somewhere different than where you'd normally be...not at all. the feeling is mutual between there and home. it's just that you get bored of home, and/or just don't feel like you should limit yourself to just home...but home is everywhere. Japan is home to people whom reside there. you resided there once. which was better? visiting there, or living there? please, answer honestly now. i know the answer already.
my point is: that travelling abroad is not always feasible and is not always necessary, because travelling in-country can be just as fulfilling.
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Shroomism said: I don't wear underwear and they aren't in a twist, I'm just making observations. Travel can be expensive yes but it doesn't have to be. I traveled all around the US on nothing. I moved to CA with $40 in my pocket. But I'm cool like that because I have street knowledge and stuff.. you know, from traveling. But it's all bullshit right. You can get a plane ticket to Iceland for $99.
This post made me feel like skipping town, I'm holding out against the weather though
I've moved with $20 in my pocket a few times, usually around $200, but I always know someone in the area Looking to travel a lot more, rely more on camping and meeting new people
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akira_akuma said: don't have to travel far
that travelling Europe is "cheap", i presume. cause it ain't. if it's so cheap...why aren't you travelling all those aforementioned destinations, right now?
Traveling to another country literally isn't in the same realm as traveling within a country, its a different experience, you're comparing walking to the kitchen to vising your neighbor.
Going to Europe is tempting, I would want to stay if I left in the near future, so there is difficulty with the Schengen immigration laws. Especially as Europe is dealing with mass illegal migration... Basically putting Europe on the backburner while I travel the states more. Money isn't the issue, within practical boundaries.
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Traveling to another country literally isn't in the same realm as traveling within a country, its a different experience
wrong. the feeling is mutual between all countries. someone visiting the states from Japan, they'll feel they've entered "a new realm", just the same as you feel when you enter their "realm". but the thing is, it's all just Earth. 
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I don't wear underwear and they aren't in a twist, I'm just making observations.
well, as am i. but i'm not misconstruing anyone else's observations, at least no one has made that explicitly clear to me -- which i think there is a good reason why....
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Travel can be expensive yes but it doesn't have to be. I traveled all around the US on nothing. I moved to CA with $40 in my pocket. But I'm cool like that because I have street knowledge and stuff.. you know, from traveling.
that isn't what you were talking about earlier, however. you were talking about travel outside of one's country, no? that's what i thought i was reading earlier.
PS: is Iceland cheap? where else is cheap? give me to down-low, the 411....
PPS: my point is: that travelling abroad is not always feasible and is not always necessary, because travelling in-country can be just as fulfilling.
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the flora and fauna are different. i said that already. i said "NATURE stays the same". thus the nature of the embodiment of travel (and it's effects) remains the same between ten miles, twenty miles, a hundred miles, a thousand miles; my point is it doesn't matter how far and wide you do...at least, in my opinion.
This is like saying one painting is the same as another because they're both paintings.
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no, it isn't. the nature of travelling and feelings of well-being due to travelling, traversing, hiking, ect ect, is not akin to the nature of painting or of paintings. wrong again.
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Your perspective on travel is arbitrarily boring and colorblind.
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Traveling to another country literally isn't in the same realm as traveling within a country, its a different experience
wrong. the feeling is mutual between all countries. someone visiting the states from Japan, they'll feel they've entered "a new realm", just the same as you feel when you enter their "realm". but the thing is, it's all just Earth. 
Have you been to Japan? It might as well be a different Universe. Again, how much have you seen the world? You're making all these bold statements but what are you drawing it from Have you heard the term Culture shock? Have you ever had it?
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Shroomism]
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yes, i have experienced that. not to the extent of visiting the Louvre or anything...but i see culture and am shocked, at times. Japan is immense. i am near Japanophile. i mean, not really. Japanese chicks are not like "a thing" or anything, and i don't watch animes and shit like i used to ... don't even listen to too much Japanese music, these days. but i constantly like to learn about the culture, and it's proponents and dissidents. their history is fascinating, for various reasons, and...i mean, have you seen their Cool enterprising scheme? it's brilliant! Shibuya is head-splittingly immense.
being in Shibuya would be akin to being on a mild mushroom trip, at the very least.
love Japan. it'd be the first place i'd visit. i don't think it's gonna change my life or my worldview or anything, though.
my point is: that travelling abroad is not always feasible and is not always necessary, because travelling in-country can be just as fulfilling.
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Changed my life. And Chinatown is not the same as visiting China. Nor is eating Korean food in America the same as eating food in Korea. Shibuya is a fucking trip. I've been to a million ramen places but none of them come close to the amazingness of the ramen I had in Japan. Some come sort of close but no. All the food for that matter. I will remember it until I die.
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Repertoire89 said: Your perspective on travel is arbitrarily boring and colorblind.

what the fuck would you know? you can't even differentiate what i am talking about. you say you travel within the US more than anything...so you're a proponent, like me, of travelling within your own countries borders...you are not calling yourself boring...so maybe try and actually understand what is being said here. i mean, clearly, you can't be calling your own travels within the US, boring...right? right?
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Shroomism said: Changed my life. And Chinatown is not the same as visiting China. Nor is eating Korean food in America the same as eating food in Korea. Shibuya is a fucking trip.
i wouldn't want to visit China, because to me, it looks like a more Asian Canada. their festivities are bad ass, though. and i do like Chinese ritual ceremony...but not enough to buy a ticket.
same with Korea...i'll save on all those expenses...and just go to Japan. 
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I've been to a million ramen places but none of them come close to the amazingness of the ramen I had in Japan. Some come sort of close but no. All the food for that matter. I will remember it until I die.
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And Chinatown is not the same as visiting China.
i never made an argument that would equate to "there is a replica of this far away land, in my country, i'll go there instead, it's all the same!"
you know that, though, right? i just said that travelling abroad is not always feasible and is not always necessary, because travelling in-country can be just as fulfilling. you KNOW this Shroomism, i know you know that's what i said, in so many words.
i repeat: my point is: that travelling abroad is not always feasible and is not always necessary, because travelling in-country can be just as fulfilling.
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what the fuck would you know? you can't even differentiate what i am talking about. you say you travel within the US more than anything...so you're a proponent, like me, of travelling within your own countries borders...you are not calling yourself boring...so maybe try and actually understand what is being said here. i mean, clearly, you can't be calling your own travels within the US, boring...right? right?
Still doubling down on this bullshit?
Your "point" is a meandering drip running through pages of dribble, and you're complaining about someone not understanding you?
I've been across Western Europe, the US and Canada, and haven't spent more than a year in one city in a decade. Stay in your hole out there, your shit gets old fast.
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yes, you really should get personally offended. out of pure necessity, i'm sure.
you've travelled in the US. great, you're a proponent like me for being able to travel within your borders and still get something out of it. the fact that you are doing just what i said was good and fine and dandy, just goes to show how little you've managed to comprehend in this exchange. and your lack of comprehension of nuance.
you travelled within your countries borders, and you do so because it perks your well-being, or what have you. just like i said: it's a fine thing to do. one need not travel abroad to achieve the well-being of travelling. you've proven my point. you just keep getting offended though. it suits you, nomad.
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and haven't spent more than a year in one city in a decade. Stay in your hole out there, your shit gets old fast.
PS: yes, i am not a nomad like you, so hence i live in a hole...even though you've travelled to this hole, and presumably enjoyed it. i'm guessing by "hole" you don't mean "shithole" but really an awesome hole of coolness.
or it's just more misapprehending foolish rhetoric from an unsurprising source.
*note: ambiguity: response: fill holes with butthurt about how offended i am over someone saying something i can't fully perceive or grasp*
mission accomplished, nomad.
PS: my point is: that travelling abroad is not always feasible and is not always necessary, because travelling in-country can be just as fulfilling.
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akira_akuma said: yes, you really should get personally offended.
There's a difference between being annoyed and being offended
Like being disgusted versus angry or afraid
Your posts belong in the former category
Not much different than when some random person's frufru dog starts nipping at your ankles and yapping
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disgusted, and annoying, all the same. your choice in the matter. i never said anything that was annoying. you simply perceived it that way. i'd ask for you to point out a single instance of me saying something "annoying", but it'd be a futile cause, wouldn't it?
you wanna be annoyed, be annoyed. it's not my fault opinions annoy you. i mean, you like travel alot. i get it...you still haven't shown me anything however. and by the by, you never have to respond to my posts you know. you can ignore them, if you find them annoying. (PS: but it's not just that really, you find my "perspective" "bland". oh well. i'm sure my blithe perspective really does annoy you, but why? why does an opinion annoy you? why can't you reason with logic, as opposed to emotions in this instance? is it because your worldview revolves around this aspect of yourself? again, sorry, but i wasn't ever addressing you. if i was, personally, i might have made a somewhat different point. you don't know my perspective. you don't know me worth a shit...you know me less than the people you meet on the streets, looking to busk on the corner.)
he has a bland perspective on things cause he said something i didn't like about things which he was referring to that i didn't grasp. someone please, shut him up, shut him up before he corrupts the youth of America!

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Not much different than when some random person's frufru dog starts nipping at your ankles and yapping
where are the heels in this metaphor? this thread is your heels, is that it? i said something negative about travel (it's too expensive, and not worth the cost most of time, to travel abroad, and that you can travel in-country and get the same well-being out of that experience, but at less of the cost. oh man REAL ANNOYING!!!! GOD DAMN ANNOYING FACTS!) -- i say something negative about travel (in general, the most general) and it's uh oh! stop nipping at my heels! again, sorry i was negative about your nomadic ways, even though i wasn't ever addressing you or your preferences. 
this was fun. seeing you overreact. LOL
my point is: that travelling abroad is not always feasible and is not always necessary, because travelling in-country can be just as fulfilling.
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moonrockmushy said: Yeah watch out for terrorists too. Most people that stay in hostels are communists.
Are they also the gay?
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akira_akuma said: disgusted, and annoying, all the same. your choice in the matter. i never said anything that was annoying. you simply perceived it that way. i'd ask for you to point out a single instance of me saying something "annoying", but it'd be a futile cause, wouldn't it?
you wanna be annoyed, be annoyed. it's not my fault opinions annoy you. i mean, you like travel alot. i get it...you still haven't shown me anything however. and by the by, you never have to respond to my posts you know. you can ignore them, if you find them annoying. (PS: but it's not just that really, you find my "perspective" "bland". oh well. i'm sure my blithe perspective really does annoy you, but why? why does an opinion annoy you? why can't you reason with logic, as opposed to emotions in this instance? is it because your worldview revolves around this aspect of yourself? again, sorry, but i wasn't ever addressing you. if i was, personally, i might have made a somewhat different point. you don't know my perspective. you don't know me worth a shit...you know me less than the people you meet on the streets, looking to busk on the corner.)
he has a bland perspective on things cause he said something i didn't like about things which he was referring to that i didn't grasp. someone please, shut him up, shut him up before he corrupts the youth of America!

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Not much different than when some random person's frufru dog starts nipping at your ankles and yapping
where are the heels in this metaphor? this thread is your heels, is that it? i said something negative about travel (it's too expensive, and not worth the cost most of time, to travel abroad, and that you can travel in-country and get the same well-being out of that experience, but at less of the cost. oh man REAL ANNOYING!!!! GOD DAMN ANNOYING FACTS!) -- i say something negative about travel (in general, the most general) and it's uh oh! stop nipping at my heels! again, sorry i was negative about your nomadic ways, even though i wasn't ever addressing you or your preferences. 
this was fun. seeing you overreact. LOL
my point is: that travelling abroad is not always feasible and is not always necessary, because travelling in-country can be just as fulfilling.
Good god, there's no way I'm going to read that.
This is what I find annoying, arbitrary contrarianism worked into page long, seemingly aimless rambles.
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One thing to consider when traveling is to have a goal in the country you visit.
When I went to thailand my goal was to study meditation and yoga at an ashram.
If I went again my goal would be to take muay thai classes (and fuck some hot thai peoples )
Lots of people go to teach english as a second language.
Or to volunteer at an elephant sanctuary.
Anywhere I went I would want to study the local martial art- jujitsu in brazil, judo in japan etc.
Or the local spirituality (ashrams, temples, meditation, yoga etc)
Or whatever.
In peru my goal would be to do ayahuasca sessions and smoke DMT.
Just sayign there is something about having a goal and a destination that makes trips more structured and grounded and that can be good.
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I'm flying out to Colorado in 8 days myself
Got the equipment necessary to stay out in the woods for a time if need be, but depending on when I can meet up with some people I might see if I can get myself a single-room occupancy apartment and if necessary a Day Labor job, that way I can have somewhere warm to stay over the winter cuz idk if I'm mentally prepared to spend the whole winter out in the Colorado wilderness
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i wouldn't want to visit China, because to me, it looks like a more Asian Canada. their festivities are bad ass, though. and i do like Chinese ritual ceremony...but not enough to buy a ticket.
same with Korea...i'll save on all those expenses...and just go to Japan. 
Asian Canada? what the hell are you talking about?
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Sweet enjoy ! My wife and I actually considered taking a trip to Colorado for my birthday and hit up the legal recreational cannabis dispensaries for all the fancy edibles and then going hiking and camping baked to the gills.
If i were you I would hit up the dispensaries ! Please let me know how it was and where you went !
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Definitely will do man, I'll be landing in Denver so I definitely plan on sampling some dispensary products while I'm there
The backpacking and camping is what I'm looking forward to most of all, can't wait to take mescaline for the first time deep in the forest and become more in tune with nature
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If camping is what you want to do, there are lots of places to go in the USA.
Some places in Central and South America, depending on the country are.... risky, to go camping. Not all of them are, but some countries are too unstable politically to go camping by yourself or even in groups.
You have to remember there are guerilla fighters hiding out deep in the jungles in some of these countries, and they will shoot you on site if they see you, because they might think you are a spy.
In fact, I distinctly remember a Banged Up Abroad series where a couple hikers were ambushed in Panama, and also in Colombia, by guerilla fighters.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Crystal G]
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TV, lol. Crystal, I'll keep you safe if you want to go camping.
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Repertoire89 said: Good god, there's no way I'm going to read that.
This is what I find annoying, arbitrary contrarianism worked into page long, seemingly aimless rambles.
it's not contrarian to have an opinion that simply doesn't fit with your personal preferences. you really, dude, have not even the comprehension of what i've actually postulated in this thread.
let me point it out, deftly for you, so your brain can handle this information without frying.
my point is: that travelling abroad is not always feasible and is not always necessary, because travelling in-country can be just as fulfilling.
that isn't contrarian. it's a fact. a fact that you've helped me prove along the way, by way of you admitting to the fact yourself. even though you may not have realized it, funnily enough. you know. you travel within the US...you find it fulfilling. hence, you do not HAVE to travel elsewhere to achieve the effect of well-being you can garner from travel, travel PERIOD. something that you don't deny, clearly. that and travel is expensive, and alot of people can't afford to travel and experience all the culture has to offer...also fact. so what the fuck are you going to do about that? sorry.
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Oldgregg said: Asian Canada? what the hell are you talking about?
and I can't tell if equating Japan and Korea is you being racist or just ignorant
who equated Korea to Japan? no one. you misread the post.
and yes, it's like an Asian Canada. alot of rural areas, alot of folk tradition, alot of similar flora, actually, as well. you got a problem?
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Haven't been to Colorado in awhile.Tell us all how the dispensaries are.Would def hit up some next time I go there.As far as advice goes,avoid most of the tourist places and go off the beaten path.You'll have a more exciting time that way.
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Repertoire89 said: Good god, there's no way I'm going to read that.
This is what I find annoying, arbitrary contrarianism worked into page long, seemingly aimless rambles.
it's not contrarian to have an opinion that simply doesn't fit with your personal preferences. you really, dude, have not even the comprehension of what i've actually postulated in this thread.
let me point it out, deftly for you, so your brain can handle this information without frying.
my point is: that travelling abroad is not always feasible and is not always necessary, because travelling in-country can be just as fulfilling.
that isn't contrarian. it's a fact. a fact that you've helped me prove along the way, by way of you admitting to the fact yourself. even though you may not have realized it, funnily enough. you know. you travel within the US...you find it fulfilling. hence, you do not HAVE to travel elsewhere to achieve the effect of well-being you can garner from travel, travel PERIOD. something that you don't deny, clearly. that and travel is expensive, and alot of people can't afford to travel and experience all the culture has to offer...also fact. so what the fuck are you going to do about that? sorry.
I'm not even reading your posts dude, you're very consistent about being an asshole and making everything personal, within the context of over-blown pretentious rambling.
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LOL i made this personal. laughable. you made it personal by getting "annoyed" (offended) at my comments, then calling me an asshole. all i said was: that travelling abroad is not always feasible and is not always necessary, because travelling in-country can be just as fulfilling.
and you took that personally (at least, that is what appears to be the case -- just look at you. calling me asshole for simply sharing my opinion [factual, and justified true opinion])
i didn't make anything personal. LOL and you're not gonna read my posts? cool. you should have taken your own advice way earlier, if you were just going to take them personally and get "annoyed" with them, even though i never addressed you, or your preferences in anyway. you're allowed to think my "perspective is bland". i can respect that, it's your opinion. but don't tell me (and others) i made things personal. that's a flat out lie. LOL
also, if i can share my thoughts and views on something, and make you lash out over my opinion on something, at the same time, all the more entertaining; quite honestly; nig me if you don't want to see my posts. plenty of people do. but i won't stop pointing out your idiocy for the sake of your feelings or the sake of space...the forum is filled with shitposts and junk. why should i censor myself, when nobody else does. just an aside.
that's all. take care, hotshot.
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Thanks to everyone for your responses. I will probably come back to this thread with new questions sporadically. If I don't respond to a post it's not because I didn't read it, but I just like to sit back and observe things most of the time.
I was thinking that if I went on a road trip across the country (USA), that would be a good start to a traveling "career." In addition I could just drive in my car and not use a plane. I've been thinking about housing/hotels - I think I could stretch my dollar a lot farther if I just slept in my car, but I'm wondering if that's something that's generally safe to do.
I've noticed that 18-wheelers seem to have those resting stations where I presume the truckers can park there and sleep overnight (if you know what I'm talking about.) Would it be acceptable/safe/secure for someone in a small car to park there or anywhere else in general?
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akira_akuma
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truckers are usually very trust-worthy people.
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falsereality


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Celestial Traveler said: I was thinking that if I went on a road trip across the country (USA), that would be a good start to a traveling "career." In addition I could just drive in my car and not use a plane. I've been thinking about housing/hotels - I think I could stretch my dollar a lot farther if I just slept in my car, but I'm wondering if that's something that's generally safe to do.
I've noticed that 18-wheelers seem to have those resting stations where I presume the truckers can park there and sleep overnight (if you know what I'm talking about.) Would it be acceptable/safe/secure for someone in a small car to park there or anywhere else in general?
You'll be fine if you sleep in your car in the US dude, probably safer than a motel six to be honest . Definitely shoot me an email and we can discuss travel plans, things to do and whatnot. I've been every state in the US, and 20+ countries and would love to help get you started on your journey .
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Celestial Traveler said: Having no real experience traveling on my own, can you give me advice on this subject?
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Celestial Traveler
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falsereality said:
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Celestial Traveler said: I was thinking that if I went on a road trip across the country (USA), that would be a good start to a traveling "career." In addition I could just drive in my car and not use a plane. I've been thinking about housing/hotels - I think I could stretch my dollar a lot farther if I just slept in my car, but I'm wondering if that's something that's generally safe to do.
I've noticed that 18-wheelers seem to have those resting stations where I presume the truckers can park there and sleep overnight (if you know what I'm talking about.) Would it be acceptable/safe/secure for someone in a small car to park there or anywhere else in general?
You'll be fine if you sleep in your car in the US dude, probably safer than a motel six to be honest . Definitely shoot me an email and we can discuss travel plans, things to do and whatnot. I've been every state in the US, and 20+ countries and would love to help get you started on your journey .
Get busy living or get busy dying!
Thanks for the offer. I guess the general question would be where it's ok to park. I would love to email you, but I've tried it before and have been too lazy and pre-occupied (more pre-occupied) to figure out how to use encryption.
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azur
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I saw a van parked on the side of a country road with bullet holes in it  Look into national forests (not parks). You can camp anywhere in the forests unless posted otherwise.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: azur] 1
#23767613 - 10/24/16 05:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Looks like you have heaps of replies.
If you need a couch in Scotland say hi.
Heres how I go about making a travel plan.
Skyscanner.net
search: US to anywhere
cheapest month
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Washington to Reykjavik 22 January $99. have a look for cheap coaches to Washinton look at rideshares https://www.carpoolworld.com/ or Hitching options http://hitchwiki.org/en/United_States_of_America
check about visa and travel vaccines https://iceland.visahq.com/ http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/destinations/traveler/none/iceland
research travel insurance http://travelchimps.com/travel-insurance-health/travel-insurance-price-comparison-sites-us.php
have a look at what the destination city is like http://wikitravel.org/en/Reykjavik https://www.lonelyplanet.com/iceland/reykjavik
look for cheap accommodation http://www.hostelbookers.com/hostels/iceland/ https://www.couchsurfing.com/
find out how others got around cheaply http://europe-travel.yoexpert.com/best-of-europe/how-did-we-survive-our-three-month-shoestring-budg-31430.html https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowTopic-g1-i12290-k9030417-12_weeks_in_Europe_on_a_tight_budget-Bargain_Travel.html the man in seat 61 <3 http://www.seat61.com/
have a look at options marketed at young skint travellers like: http://www.interrail.eu/
Id go back to skyscanner and see how to get out of Iceland so: Reykjavik to London $50 on 24th January
at some point in the planning Id look at the cheapest way to get back to the states. I like to have a return flight booked and some places want to you show you intend on leaving again. https://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/forums/europe-western-europe/topics/best-cheapest-cities-to-fly-in-out-of-in-europe Stokholm to Oakland on 1st March $145
there is a handy site if your taking chepo flights with horrible long stopovers http://www.sleepinginairports.net/europe/
travel light and take stuff you are willing to dump for a cheap flight. for example: Germany to Croatia for $11 on a Ryanair flight, but you need a light rucksack.
Id pick somewhere cheaper than Europe myself. You can fly to Vietnam for $300 and then live on a budget of $25 a day. Califonia to Nepal $335 CAlifonia to India $468, cheap guest houses start at $1 a night complete with roaches food per day $2, overnight train halfway across the country $10....etc
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World class akira_akuma freakout here. Posts many ridiculously long posts only to later claim that all he was saying was one sentence worth of material. Classic.
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moonrockmushy
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akira_akuma said: truckers are usually very trust-worthy people.
Long as you follow the way of the road they are just kind as can be Don't forget rule #22 you cannot say no to a trucker orgy.
You can sleep in those places, but sleeping in a car sucks. They can be shady and cops might ask you to leave but as long as you don't cause any trouble most people will understand and you're not going to get like a ticket or something unless they are trying to squeeze you. Living in your car will make it and you smell disgusting, so keep that in mind.
Personally I would rather sell the car and fly to somewhere I would enjoy being rather than live out of highway reststops.
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Celestial Traveler said: Thanks to everyone for your responses. I will probably come back to this thread with new questions sporadically. If I don't respond to a post it's not because I didn't read it, but I just like to sit back and observe things most of the time.
I was thinking that if I went on a road trip across the country (USA), that would be a good start to a traveling "career." In addition I could just drive in my car and not use a plane. I've been thinking about housing/hotels - I think I could stretch my dollar a lot farther if I just slept in my car, but I'm wondering if that's something that's generally safe to do.
I've noticed that 18-wheelers seem to have those resting stations where I presume the truckers can park there and sleep overnight (if you know what I'm talking about.) Would it be acceptable/safe/secure for someone in a small car to park there or anywhere else in general?
I strongly recommend couchsurfing.com , it's like AirBNB except it's free.
Basically there are strangers all over the country, all over the world in fact, that are basically lonely and want to meet people. So they open up their houses to strangers for a couple days to a couple weeks. They let you crash and will show you around the town and stuff. I would personally do their laundry and do some cooking for them or something, especially on days they are away at work, just to show them some gratitude.
It's a good way to travel all over without spending barely any money, and it's also a good way to shower and have a bed to sleep on. Sleep in your car for days you aren't able to find a person to host you, or you're traveling between cities.
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moonrockmushy said: You can sleep in those places, but sleeping in a car sucks. They can be shady and cops might ask you to leave but as long as you don't cause any trouble most people will understand and you're not going to get like a ticket or something unless they are trying to squeeze you. Living in your car will make it and you smell disgusting, so keep that in mind.
They won't just tell you to leave, if cops are feeling like assholes they will even search your car claiming reasonable cause and shit. You have to be careful about where you sleep, especially in shitty areas or rich areas. If you have paraphernalia or drugs in the car, I'd prefer to stay safe.
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You guys said SE Asia is cheap. Even though India is South and not SE, would traveling costs be similar? And what would you think of India as an option in general?
I figure a lot of parts of India are slummy, right? But I think Hinduism is kind of cool and there would be lots of cool destinations there. Maybe I could get into Tibet and/or Nepal too?
Whatever anyone knows about safety, cost, etc would be much appreciated.
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azur
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This thread is beginning to sound a lot like mush cult..
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Celestial Traveler
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: azur]
#23774688 - 10/26/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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azur
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Just messin with ya man.
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Just bite the bullet and buy a ticket. You've spent nearly 3 weeks going round in circles. Once you buy your ticket, your locked in. Work everything around that.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: nuds]
#23774800 - 10/26/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ya I circle jerk myself until I have a date set in stone. Than I can focus and plan out everything that needs to be taken care of once its set.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Enjoywho]
#23774802 - 10/26/16 09:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah I third that notion, setting a solid goal helps a lot.
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Crystal G



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Celestial Traveler said: You guys said SE Asia is cheap. Even though India is South and not SE, would traveling costs be similar? And what would you think of India as an option in general?
I figure a lot of parts of India are slummy, right? But I think Hinduism is kind of cool and there would be lots of cool destinations there. Maybe I could get into Tibet and/or Nepal too?
Whatever anyone knows about safety, cost, etc would be much appreciated.
Yes, SE Asia is cheap, but so is India. Even a private hotel can be found for $30 a night.
Obviously if you choose India, never drink tap water there, only bottled.
But yes, India is EXTREMELY slummy. It's filthy, and disgusting. People take a dump literally on the ground, squatting, right outside the Taj Mahal. That's the kind of sanitary condition we're talking about.
Not only that, but some people who can't afford toilet paper will wipe with their left hand when they go to the bathroom. For this reason, it is considered very inappropriate and rude to shake with your left hand or touch people with your left hand.
Just be aware, some of these countries due to religious reasons also have some strict laws. For example, in India you cannot stay in a hotel with a girl unless you two are married.
I don't know how strictly this is enforced by hotel staff. Just saying, if you spend the night with a girl one night or something, and they ask if you two are married, just lie and say yes.
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#23775067 - 10/26/16 10:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: For example, in India you cannot stay in a hotel with a girl unless you two are married.
I don't know how strictly this is enforced by hotel staff.
That is rich coming from a country with a raging rape culture. Fuck India. It is literally an overpopulated shit hole full of rapists.
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: California]
#23775095 - 10/26/16 10:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: azur]
#23777411 - 10/27/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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azur said: Just messin with ya man.
Haha you're right though, it does seem like I'm being spoonfed. I've just been daydreaming about it a lot lately and like to talk it out on here.
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OhMrJohnson said: I'm flying out to Colorado in 8 days myself
Got the equipment necessary to stay out in the woods for a time if need be, but depending on when I can meet up with some people I might see if I can get myself a single-room occupancy apartment and if necessary a Day Labor job, that way I can have somewhere warm to stay over the winter cuz idk if I'm mentally prepared to spend the whole winter out in the Colorado wilderness
I'm glad you guys revived this thread. He OMJ, how goes it?
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Should I go to Alabama or Louisiana next?
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Definitely Alabama...
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I had such a rad time in Alabama on the gulf. It was paradise.
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Do you think I can get from MT to AL in 5 days driving?
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moonrockmushy
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Clearly you can, that's alot of driving but maybe 1 or 2 nice rest days
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