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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #23726750 - 10/10/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Really how am I going to carry around a shitton of things in a foreign country?  Its not like my car will get airlifted there...and if I'm staying in a hostel, can I really expect that much security for my belongings?




You don't. I've moved states 4 times. Anything you cant fit in a suit case. And backpack has to go. I've never really owned much of anything of value as I'm not going to fucking carry it. Back pack suitcase.

Roll your clothes less surface area. It's not an easy task but you can't really complain. If it's something you want to do. Sell your valuable shit and move along again. I'm doing it again now.


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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #23727273 - 10/11/16 01:09 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

U could carry a large bag or a large internal frame backpack.

If u are travelling on foot or by thumb then ya pack lite. Also u could mail yourself cool things youve bought and hope they make it back to your house.

As for hostle safety not too sure about that. Definitely keep your valuables near your body maybe with some kind of vibration activated security device :shrug:


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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23727976 - 10/11/16 11:00 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Exactly. I haven't owned a car in 4 years. Get used to walking a lot. Take what you can carry. I'm generally wearing a back pack at all times. As I travel a lot by foot and bus and I can keep things in there that I don't want to fucking carry.

Anything of value you just sell. I'm going through the process again. What do I actually need? Clothes.


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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23728202 - 10/11/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

damn, i cant imagine selling all my stuff. That would be sad :sad:

I like stuff, what can i say :shrug:


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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23728240 - 10/11/16 01:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Trust me as do I. It's not an easy thing to do. I don't own a whole lot these days as ill probably do it again.  Generally I have enough though. I keep my personal possessions to what I can fit in a backpack and suitcase.


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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #23739565 - 10/15/16 09:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Wanted to come back to this thread because some of you were recommending Southeast Asia because of the low cost, and I found a place there (Vietnam) that I want to visit - Son Doong cave.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hang_S%C6%A1n_%C4%90o%C3%B2ng

https://www.google.com/search?site=&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=659&q=son+doong+cave&oq=son+doong+cave&gs_l=img.3..0l10.73914.77040.0.77135.26.13.4.8.5.0.144.1243.8j5.13.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..1.20.1200...0i8i30k1j0i10k1.V08vMEhLTiU#imgrc=_

Of course, cave exploration brings up some whole new caveats...but some of you said that SE Asia is relatively cheap to travel compared to other foreign places, correct?

I'm going to start doing my own research, but do you guys think there's anyway to explore this cave (with a relative degree of safety) without a tour guide? 

And as a general question, what do you think of tour guides?  I kind of figured that they would charge a premium on my travel expenses and take away from the level of independence I want.


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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #23740553 - 10/15/16 06:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Tour guides are hit or miss. A lot in that part of the world will bring you to your destination but have a few "stops" on the way way at their buddy's shop where they try to get you to buy shit. Others can be really good though, just got to do your research.

Not sure about exploring he caves on your own...I wouldn't recommend it to be honest, maybe  find another traveler when there to go with you at least


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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #23741239 - 10/16/16 12:46 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Have you ever been caving? It can be extremely... extremely dangerous... depending entirely on the cave of course. But also extremely awesome.
You never want to go caving alone, ever. Always with other people, preferably a group of 3-4. That's rule number one of caving.. never go alone.


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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Shroomism]
    #23741252 - 10/16/16 12:53 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Do you ever grub for coal when you're caving?

That would be the best part imo

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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Shroomism]
    #23741269 - 10/16/16 01:06 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Have you ever been caving? It can be extremely... extremely dangerous... depending entirely on the cave of course. But also extremely awesome.
You never want to go caving alone, ever. Always with other people, preferably a group of 3-4. That's rule number one of caving.. never go alone.



Oh man. I am a caver.
When I first started, I did a bunch of solo trips because I didn't know anyone to go with.
But agreed. 3 minimum. And 3 light sources.
I've done through trips in Ellison's. 36 hour caving trip with multiple pits, including fantastic. Deepest free fall pit in the country.
If any of you guys are ever in the TAG region and want to go caving, hit me up


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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #23747947 - 10/18/16 05:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Some outdated however useful info in this thread
I recommend scouring this site in general.

Think couchsufing.org has been mentioned?

Check out this site, too.


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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #23747962 - 10/18/16 05:34 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Having no real experience traveling on my own, can you give me advice on this subject?  Any advice at all would be appreciated...I would like to plan a trip for next summer after I graduate with my MS.  I will not have much money though...I would estimate around $2-3K at most.




If you don't have very much money then I recommend going to Central or Latin America. Though $2K can get you to Asia or Europe, after airfare you really will only have enough money to go there for 1 week comfortably, or 2 weeks if you're penny pinching and couch-surfing and staying in nasty hostels. That is, unless you're in southeast Asia, since a little bit of money goes a long way. You actually have to TRY to make an effort to spend $20 a day in a place like Vietnam.

Europe is definitely possible on $3K but not $2k. You have to remember that the flight will be around $1,000, and you mentioned wanting to travel back and forth between countries. This is going to be a lot of money in train rides, cab fare, plane flights, ferries, etc. The EUrail in Europe you can buy an unlimited summer pass for like $500 if you're 25 years old or under. I think normal price is $700-$800. The EUrail allows you to travel back and forth from country to country, pretty much any country within the European Union except of course the UK, which you need to take a ferry to since it's an island.

You should definitely go with extra money instead of bordering on just being able to make it. Just in case you get pick pocketed and your passport gets stolen, or you miss your flight, or something happens.

With $2K you can easily go to Costa Rica or Panama for well over a month, even 2 months with good planning. You can also do ayahuasca retreats in some of these locations, some places like http://www.solcircle.org/ev/volunteer-program will host you for $390 a month if you do volunteer work for them. You can also get hostels for $10 a night, or even rent monthly apartments for $500 a month if you are looking to stay long term.

My next destination personally is going to be Costa Rica. With these types of sustainable living, co-op communes, and cheap hostels and hotels, it will enable me to spend about a month in the country for less than $1500.

I also recommend looking in to places like groupon.com and looking in the travel section. You can get great deals at some of these places. I've seen 10 day vacations in Costa Rica including rental car, resort hotel, unlimited alcohol and food, and airfare for $700. Or 4 day Iceland trips including airfare for $1500, 7 day Shanghai trips including airfare for $1800, etc. Consider giving these a shot.

The most expensive thing is the airfare, so whatever deal you get, make sure airfare is included.

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The main things I'd like to know more about are how to travel in a foreign country (what documents I need, etc.), and how to travel on a budget, while at the same time not missing out on important sights or experiences related to my destination.




All countries have their own individual laws, but you need a passport and a tourist visa. Certain countries such as Mexico, if you're driving in you won't be required to have a passport. Some countries like Costa Rica you will not need a visa for. You need to find out about the individual country specifically and what they require. To be on the safe side, call the embassy if you have any questions or need to ask the list of everything they require.



Edit: Also wanted to add that you should get one of these Scrubba portable laundry bags, it's a must have for any traveler or backpacker. It allows you to do laundry on the go pretty much anywhere, you just put your dirty clothes in with some water and detergent, shake for a minute, and then hang-dry somewhere.


https://www.amazon.com/Scrubba-Portable-Laundry-System-Wash/dp/B00BUI7HFC/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1476791918&sr=1-1&keywords=scrubba



When you do finally decide where to go, I can give you a lot more suggestions that are specific to the country you're going. For example, in Italy, there are outdoor carts where you can get fresh, handmade pasta or home-made wine for $2.


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    #23747963 - 10/18/16 05:37 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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All countries have their own individual laws, but you need a passport and a tourist visa. Certain countries such as Mexico and Costa Rica you will not need a passport and visa for.




Passports are needed for costa rica and mexico.


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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #23747965 - 10/18/16 05:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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My thought is that if I go to see Europe one day, it would be most efficient to visit several different countries at one time, would you agree?  Basically just to avoid wasting money on so many plane tickets...the problem is that once I get a job, there's no telling if/when I'll have the money and/or time to go on some massive EuroTrip.

You said I'll have around 1,000-1,500 after plane tickets - is that both there and back?  Obviously I don't want to get stranded there....




If you want to see many countries in Europe, you should hold off on Europe until you can save at least $4-$5K. The ticket alone will cost you at least $1,000 round trip. And Europe isn't cheap either, even a hostel where you're sharing a place with 4 strangers in the same room will cost $30-$50 a night. Food and alcohol is also much more expensive in Europe than it is in America.

Depending on the season plane tickets could cost much more. During the World Cup tickets to Europe were going for $5,000. And that was for economy, not business class or anything.

If you book your flight far enough ahead, you should be able to find tickets for cheap. Go in through Germany, they seem to have a lot of good deals traveling from NYC or LA to Berlin. I've seen round-trip tickets for as low as $700 when I was looking in November 6 months ahead.


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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23747991 - 10/18/16 06:10 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I was in London on the night of the world cup and plane tickets from Denver to Heathrow costed about 1.5k :shrug:.


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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23747995 - 10/18/16 06:13 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

OP, are you under 30 by chance? If so, did you know that Australia has a special "holiday work visa" specifically for tourists?

Basically, if you apply for it, as long as you are under 30, they will give you a special visa that allows you to work up to a year in the country. They give the visa to anybody that is under 30 and has at least $4K in the bank.

This way instead of traveling for a couple weeks, you get to live in another country long-term while at the same time making money. So you will be able to make a living, and see the entire country. There's a lot of things to do in Australia, from safaris to snorkeling around the Great Barrier reef, exploring cities like Sydney or Melbourne, etc. And there's also a large mushroom-hunting culture in Australia too.

And the benefit is that Australia will have no language barrier, so you don't have to learn a second language. And also, if you are living in Australia and want to go somewhere else, you can go to New Zealand for about $100.

You can also go to Papua New Guinea and Fiji for cheap from Australia, both of which are BEAUTIFUL destinations (Fiji is actually one location I'd love to visit one day), since they are close to Australia.

Just an example of some Fiji resort huts




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    #23749108 - 10/18/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks, you've given a shitton of advice.  Yes I'm under 30...as far as your suggestions for Central and South America, I appreciate your recommendations but are those countries really safe?  I'm pretty sure there are certain parts of Mexico that are not good to drive through...


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    #23749122 - 10/18/16 02:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Thanks, you've given a shitton of advice.  Yes I'm under 30...as far as your suggestions for Central and South America, I appreciate your recommendations but are those countries really safe?  I'm pretty sure there are certain parts of Mexico that are not good to drive through...




You aren't going to die, probably. What's the fun of life if you let a pesky little thing like drug cartels get in the way of travel?


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    #23749138 - 10/18/16 02:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Well if the cartels take your life, then there is no fun to life because there is no life..  :sad:


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Re: Advice on travelling? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #23749379 - 10/18/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Thanks, you've given a shitton of advice.  Yes I'm under 30...as far as your suggestions for Central and South America, I appreciate your recommendations but are those countries really safe?  I'm pretty sure there are certain parts of Mexico that are not good to drive through...




Some countries are exponentially safer than others. Countries like Mexico and Brazil are unsafe because of the Mexican mafia and problems with kidnapping, other countries don't have this type of problem. Obviously if you travel to Mexico I recommend staying at the resort, not exploring on your own.

Costa Rica is safe, Cuba is safe, Chile is safe, Argentina is safe, violent crime is more rare in Argentina than in Europe. In fact there's a huge baclacking community in Costa Rica and I'm planning on going as a single woman, what does that tell you?

And Mexico doesn't require a passport if you are driving in through the border, exactly like I said earlier. Costa Rica doesn't require a visa for Americans, which is what I also said earlier. *cough that's to the guy I blocked who keeps following me in every thread I post in and makes a subsequent post right after me cough* :rolleyes: this is getting ridiculous, it's to the point that I can't even participate in threads like "insult the next poster below you" because this dude is so obsessed with me he always manages to post RIGHT after me in reply. The only reason I even read his shit was because I was logged out for a second, I'm glad I have him nignored.


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