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OfflineConnoisseur

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The Wall
    #23722275 - 10/09/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

So heres my theory, the wall is really a metaphor for the splitting of american society into two groups.

Those who are for the wall and those who are against it.

So much focus has been put on this topic, which lets be honest folks (:smirk:) really doesnt matter nearly as much as the public/media/trump is making it out to that its become a major selling point of trumps campaign and one of the main things his supporters want.

No one has stopped to realize that the idea of the wall has built an invisible wall within our society and its really very sad (:wink:) to see it.

I personally dont care if they build a wall or not, know why? Cause its not an important issue, it doesnt have the importance that people are making it out to have.

If anything trump and his campaign know that what im stating in this post is the REAL reason he/they created the idea of the wall in order to create a wall between people who will push trump to the top and those who wont.


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Re: The Wall [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23722341 - 10/09/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It's needs a better name how about Beaner killing hot shocky fence ?

Really though it'll never happen even if he was president.


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Re: The Wall [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23722346 - 10/09/16 01:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

dont doubt the kid


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Re: The Wall [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23722379 - 10/09/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Connoisseur said:
Those who are for the wall and those who are against it.





and as the old saying goes, if you're for it you're against it and if you're against it you're for it


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Re: The Wall [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23722392 - 10/09/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

is that a saying?

im not acquainted with that one :confused:


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Re: The Wall [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23722446 - 10/09/16 02:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Every nation has the right to protect and enforce its borders just as you do to protect your household. You wouldn't let someone illegally enter into your house, do as they please, and consume your resources would you? The law in many cases supports a homeowner in shooting such a person. Yet, you feel the nation should? That kind of thinking is completely asinine and without any iota of sensible support.

The fact that the nation is divided on that issue goes to show how far we've fallen.
Interestingly enough, they're not dropping them off into the rich neighborhoods. The rich people's kids aren't getting exposed to 3rd world diseases. The rich people's kids aren't getting gang rapped. The rich people's kids aren't going to schools where a 3rd of the kids don't speak english. The rich people aren't dealing with a rise in violence. The rich people's kids aren't dealing with people competing for their jobs where there are already lowered numbers due to technology and a suppressed economy. The rich people's kids aren't dealing with lower wages.

It's the poor and middle class. Yet, they are some of the strongest advocates for wide open borders. In this way, they sew the seeds for their own destruction albeit ignorantly.

The only observation here is how people willfully do things that harm them and then point the finger at others. There should be protests in the streets about illegal immigration as Americans band together in support of their fellow Americans safety and well-being. You don't see that like you used to in this country because we've been divided already.

Seems you're seeing something that isn't there and feeding into the very division that is very well in place.

For the people who feel adamant about this .. It's simple, the illegals should be brought to their homes, put up with their families, and such individuals should be assessed an extra tax to support them. I guarantee you that the positions would change over night.

Better yet, let some illegal rape your kid, get drunk and run over your wife and see how you feel about open borders.


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Re: The Wall [Re: phio]
    #23722452 - 10/09/16 02:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

if you think that im AGAINST the wall your so short sighted and quick to judge you didnt even read my original post!

bahahaha and this is a text book example of how i prove that what ive said in my original post is true, you sir have proved me correct.

thank you!


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Re: The Wall [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23722491 - 10/09/16 02:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Connoisseur said:
if you think that im AGAINST the wall your so short sighted and quick to judge you didnt even read my original post!

bahahaha and this is a text book example of how i prove that what ive said in my original post is true, you sir have proved me correct.

thank you!




I spoke of being against a position not the person who holds it.
Slow your role tiger ... and in no way did you voice what your position was besides a flippant statement suggesting that a country's borders aren't important.

You let any ol' Tom, Dick, and Harry in your home? around your family and loved ones? Is your front door and your home not important to you?

I see no division. I see a stupid unsupported position that I have yet to hear any strong support for. I'm all ears if there are solid supports provided.

Your theory is thus without merit as a country's borders are important and enforcement and protection of them one of the only things that separates one nation and its laws from another. There is no 'division' on this point as you can easily reinforce it by picking up random illegals and dumping them in someone's house. I guarantee that just about everyone will flip their shit. So, there is no division beyond ignorance.

I read your divisive theory now I'm reading your divisive deflection.
Stop behaving like a child. It's unbecoming on serious matters.


The topic is : A country's borders and enforcement.
The position is  whether or not a country has a right to its borders and/or enforcement.
If you say its not important then, by distributed logic, your home and your property is not important and you support someone violating it. If you say a country has no right to protect or enforce its borders neither should you w.r.t to your property or home.

There is no reason to concoct way off theories and conjectures. It's a black and white issue that w/o hypocrisy applies to your property and possessions. So, cut out the foolishness and talk plainly.


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Re: The Wall [Re: phio]
    #23722505 - 10/09/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

yet again your short sightedeness is your downfall...

you directed this comment at me

Every nation has the right to protect and enforce its borders just as you do to protect your household. You wouldn't let someone illegally enter into your house, do as they please, and consume your resources would you? The law in many cases supports a homeowner in shooting such a person. Yet, you feel the nation should? That kind of thinking is completely asinine and without any iota of sensible support.

and thats simply not the case of my opinion on the matter, i think that the whole thing is a scheme to get people rallied around an idea that does MATTER but is not as central of an issue as its being made out to be so that people can be polarized against each other in the manner they have been.

frankly im on neither side, wall no wall i dont care. they can build a wall and ill be fine with that.


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Re: The Wall [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23722679 - 10/09/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

A wall like that is extraordinarily expensive. We have enough other shit that we oughta be spending our money on; such as our infrastructure. And they'll find ways around the wall. No matter what Trump says, Mexico will not be paying for the wall. The taxpayers will. The border is an issue, but I don't want my tax dollars going to that wall. I want it going to things like fixing our crumbling infrastructure.


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Re: The Wall [Re: Dark_Star]
    #23722686 - 10/09/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Just getting proper fencing through the government would be a huge project


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Re: The Wall [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23722757 - 10/09/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Connoisseur said:
yet again your short sightedeness is your downfall...

you directed this comment at me

Every nation has the right to protect and enforce its borders just as you do to protect your household. You wouldn't let someone illegally enter into your house, do as they please, and consume your resources would you? The law in many cases supports a homeowner in shooting such a person. Yet, you feel the nation should? That kind of thinking is completely asinine and without any iota of sensible support.

and thats simply not the case of my opinion on the matter, i think that the whole thing is a scheme to get people rallied around an idea that does MATTER but is not as central of an issue as its being made out to be so that people can be polarized against each other in the manner they have been.

frankly im on neither side, wall no wall i dont care. they can build a wall and ill be fine with that.




Calling it like it is.. Don't be coy.
A wall is not important? Your front door nor your locks should be either.
Getting you to see what your statements amount to as opposed to wild conjectures and theories.

This nation was divided long ago and in clear ways. No one has to be underhanded and elaborate now-a-days.


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Re: The Wall [Re: phio]
    #23722764 - 10/09/16 04:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

your saying a wall is just as important as my front door but the wall doesnt exist yet, my front door does.

your comparison is shit.


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Re: The Wall [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23722775 - 10/09/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Connoisseur said:
your saying a wall is just as important as my front door but the wall doesnt exist yet, my front door does.

your comparison is shit.




And i'm done. Keep living my friend.


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Re: The Wall [Re: phio] * 1
    #23722839 - 10/09/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Borders are bullshit, they're imaginary, they don't exist.

To think that people can be jailed or even killed for stepping onto another piece of land is.. I don't even have a word for it, that's how bad it is..

Some peeps would say well how would u like it if someone stepped on to ur property, well I'd say to them "bitch my property is about the size of a pea". These other assholes on the other hand create borders around whole continents and call everything within them theirs. Of course people are going to pass through it without their permission, u build a fence right on the trail asshole.


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Re: The Wall [Re: zZZz]
    #23722841 - 10/09/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

god bless you!


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Re: The Wall [Re: Dark_Star]
    #23723543 - 10/09/16 08:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Dark_Star said:
A wall like that is extraordinarily expensive. We have enough other shit that we oughta be spending our money on; such as our infrastructure. And they'll find ways around the wall. No matter what Trump says, Mexico will not be paying for the wall. The taxpayers will. The border is an issue, but I don't want my tax dollars going to that wall. I want it going to things like fixing our crumbling infrastructure.




Who do you think pays for illegals once they start living here?  The taxpayer!!


Edited by qman (10/09/16 08:29 PM)


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Re: The Wall [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23723753 - 10/09/16 09:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Connoisseur said:
your saying a wall is just as important as my front door but the wall doesnt exist yet, my front door does.

your comparison is shit.



HAHAHA that made me lol. And before someone looks at this post and assumes i am against the wall i just want to say :i dont give a shit about the wall. Even if i was american i wouldnt.


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Re: The Wall [Re: phio]
    #23723819 - 10/09/16 10:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

phio said:
Quote:

Connoisseur said:
yet again your short sightedeness is your downfall...

you directed this comment at me

Every nation has the right to protect and enforce its borders just as you do to protect your household. You wouldn't let someone illegally enter into your house, do as they please, and consume your resources would you? The law in many cases supports a homeowner in shooting such a person. Yet, you feel the nation should? That kind of thinking is completely asinine and without any iota of sensible support.

and thats simply not the case of my opinion on the matter, i think that the whole thing is a scheme to get people rallied around an idea that does MATTER but is not as central of an issue as its being made out to be so that people can be polarized against each other in the manner they have been.

frankly im on neither side, wall no wall i dont care. they can build a wall and ill be fine with that.




Calling it like it is.. Don't be coy.
A wall is not important? Your front door nor your locks should be either. .




Your analogy is retarded, but you keep using it :rolleyes:


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Re: The Wall [Re: koods]
    #23724255 - 10/10/16 04:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It is in America the same as it is in the Netherlands: rich assholes import a bunch of foreign workers so they have really cheap labour.
The foreign workers stay in the country, and now this same right-wing/liberal party that was all for taking in these people now uses these people to fear monger their voter base.

So it is kinda like Americans and Europeans are double penetrated by these neo-lib fuckers.

And who are the victims? Both the cheap labour force and the citizens of the country they where brought in.

Don't hate on the immigrants, hate on the rich fuckers who are doing all this, you idiots.


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Re: The Wall [Re: Turtletotem]
    #23724523 - 10/10/16 09:04 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Turtletotem said:
It is in America the same as it is in the Netherlands: rich assholes import a bunch of foreign workers so they have really cheap labour.
The foreign workers stay in the country, and now this same right-wing/liberal party that was all for taking in these people now uses these people to fear monger their voter base.

So it is kinda like Americans and Europeans are double penetrated by these neo-lib fuckers.

And who are the victims? Both the cheap labour force and the citizens of the country they where brought in.

Don't hate on the immigrants, hate on the rich fuckers who are doing all this, you idiots.




"all for taking in these people"

The Republicans officially state they're against the open border, but they're lying.

"And who are the victims? ...the cheap labour force"

Not true, victims don't leave their homelands and find a higher standard of living. These "victims" and their anchor babies cost the US taxpayers several hundred billion dollars PER YEAR!

"hate on the rick fuckers who are doing all of this"

That's very true, but we also have to deport the illegals who don't belong here.


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