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Very simple timer question
    #23721864 - 10/09/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I simply want a timer that can turn on for a specified amount of time and be off for an amount of time.
The time between cycles and the cycle time will stay the same. I would like to be able to have it run for 3 or 4 weeks. For a 24 hour timer work for this or do I need another type of timer. Seems all I can find are ones where you have to put in tonnes of times just to have it do something so simple. There must be a type of timer where I can just modify the amount of on time and the amount of off time and have it repeat indefinitely.

Thank and sorry if this has been answered.


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Re: Very simple timer question [Re: harry4386]
    #23721873 - 10/09/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I simply want a timer that can turn on for a specified amount of time and be off for an amount of time.
The time between cycles and the cycle time will stay the same. I would like to be able to have it run for 3 or 4 weeks. For a 24 hour timer work for this or do I need another type of timer. Seems all I can find are ones where you have to put in tonnes of times just to have it do something so simple. There must be a type of timer where I can just modify the amount of on time and the amount of off time and have it repeat indefinitely.

Thank and sorry if this has been answered.




Is this for an airpump?

I sure hope this isn't for an airpump...    :smile:


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Re: Very simple timer question [Re: morty422] * 1
    #23721885 - 10/09/16 11:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The only timer you need is a 12/12 one for your light

And yes there's a timer for any application... Go buy one we're not the hardware store.


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Re: Very simple timer question [Re: morty422]
    #23721891 - 10/09/16 11:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Possibly for lights. You should be able to find a simple timer at home depot or Lowe's for the cheap. Even walmart and probably any place you go lol.. Amazon has a lot. Their are plenty that are simple and cheap to choose from.


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Re: Very simple timer question [Re: harry4386]
    #23721937 - 10/09/16 12:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Actually what I'm looking for is a timer for an exhaust fan, air in my greenhouse will circulate via computer fans, and then will be completely exchanged every 3 or 4 hours as co2 builds. I was just wondering if that kind of timer has a name. So I can set something like 2 mins on, 3 hours off without having to program like a weeks worth of times into the 7 day or 24 hour ones.


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Re: Very simple timer question [Re: harry4386]
    #23722004 - 10/09/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

How do you know how much your co2 builds up. What's the volume of your greenhouse and how many substrates do you have in there. Most people prefer passive FAE simply cut some slits in the greenhouse so its more automated than having to use fans and timers and sensors etc..

Its way more automated and space saving to stack tubs
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Half pound per tub, less maintenance than any greenhouse or ironically automated setup I've seen.

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PS. Stacking monos: 2 dry lbs per 4-tub stack on average for the first flush. 66qt, no more than a brick of coir, 2 qts verm, and 5-6 qts of grain per tub. Set and forget.






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Re: Very simple timer question [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23722039 - 10/09/16 12:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I haven't done any calculations as to how much co2 will be produced but I think I'd rather do a full fae every few hours so I can keep humidity up easier. I have an ultrasonic with a controller for humidity. It just seems like all the timers I see at store are like 7 day timers and I don't want to program that many cycles, rather have something I can easily change up by adjusting a few settings.


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Re: Very simple timer question [Re: harry4386]
    #23722085 - 10/09/16 12:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Your substrates need to have surface humidity of say 90-99%
Less than an inch from the surface or so

The ambient air the mushrooms grow into should be about 50-70. The blocks of substrate supply moisture and surface humidity. The fruiting chamber or greenhouse is only a crutch to keep the mushrooms from cracking or drying out too much during growth. You should still manually mist the substrates to replenish water lost to fruit development or dunk them or bottom water them. Fresh air is far more important than humidity supply as much fresh air as possible.





Supply fresh air as much as possible until you achieve dense full pinsets. Supply hydration to support mushrooms growth(90-93% water by mass)


Appropriate dense full pinsets also support their own microclimate


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Re: Very simple timer question [Re: harry4386]
    #23722199 - 10/09/16 01:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Simple timer answer:
Cycle timer is what you're looking for.  Analog is better than digital.


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Re: Very simple timer question [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23722212 - 10/09/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Wouldn't having the greenhouse at 90% humidity and circulating the air have the same effect? Fae is for co2 removal so the mushrooms know to grow, so circulating the air will remove co2 from substrate and mix it in with the fresh air, then once overall co2 rises enough I would do a full fae. Wouldn't his have the same effect to what you're saying?


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Re: Very simple timer question [Re: harry4386]
    #23722224 - 10/09/16 01:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Soggy caps are soggy caps

Harder for your blocks to evaporate into 90% air as well. Substrates losing moisture to evaporation helps with a full pinset


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Re: Very simple timer question [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23722269 - 10/09/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I thought you wanted high humidity?


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Re: Very simple timer question [Re: harry4386]
    #23722283 - 10/09/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

in certain places. you want the substrate to create high humidity inside out rather than blasting with humidity outside in. at least that's the biggest folly of noobs I see. read about high humidity and stop there then design a box that soaks mushrooms


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Re: Very simple timer question [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23722512 - 10/09/16 02:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Soak them as in you get condensation on the mushrooms themselves? I was thinking the airflow from the fans would prevent that. How would you add moisture to the substrate? I'm planning on doing some plastic tubs on racks in an airtight greenhouse. Controlling humidity, circulating interior air constantly, and doing full fae say every 3 or 4 hours. Where would my issue be.

I know we're friends topic but this is interesting convo.


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Re: Very simple timer question [Re: harry4386]
    #23722534 - 10/09/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

give it a try and if it doesn't work out as perfectly as you hoped it would in your head apply some of my logic and the logic of others developed through having to learn how to get full flushes


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Re: Very simple timer question [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23722546 - 10/09/16 03:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I actually want to know the best way to soak the substrate then. I can easily just lower the humidity to say 70,


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Re: Very simple timer question [Re: harry4386]
    #23722551 - 10/09/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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.. and doing full fae say every 3 or 4 hours. Where would my issue be.





i dont think you know what fresh air exchange is. its not fresh air replacement.


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Re: Very simple timer question [Re: harry4386]
    #23722586 - 10/09/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I actually want to know the best way to soak the substrate then. I can easily just lower the humidity to say 70,



mist, dunk, bottom water


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Re: Very simple timer question [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23722601 - 10/09/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Which has to be done less frequently? Or is most effective? Or do I use a combination? And is the supplemental to some level of humidity in the greenhouse ?


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Re: Very simple timer question [Re: harry4386]
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Re: Very simple timer question [Re: mushboy]
    #23722661 - 10/09/16 03:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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.. and doing full fae say every 3 or 4 hours. Where would my issue be.





i dont think you know what fresh air exchange is. its not fresh air replacement.



Then, what is it??


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Re: Very simple timer question [Re: azur]
    #23722675 - 10/09/16 03:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Very simple timer question [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23722678 - 10/09/16 03:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

:shiiiiit:

i was thinking poster was confusing fanning with fae. two different things.
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    #23722700 - 10/09/16 03:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Totally


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Re: Very simple timer question [Re: azur]
    #23722744 - 10/09/16 04:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Just cut gigantic holes in your greenhouse and stuff them with polyfill!! :rofl:


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:facepalm:


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Re: Very simple timer question [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23722799 - 10/09/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Alright thanks man. ill read everything I can on soaking the sub.


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Re: Very simple timer question [Re: azur]
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Just cut gigantic holes in your greenhouse and stuff them with polyfill!! :rofl:



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I'm assuming you didn't find it humorous? Lol


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