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littlespider
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Re: Soil Properties for Liberty Cap Hunting [Re: The Other Guy]
#23736925 - 10/14/16 11:56 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cow_botherer said:how would you rate your findings at 13 and 19?
Well most of my finds have been on soilscape 6 as that's where I can get to easiest, but I never find huge numbers compared to some. I've found at 13 and 19 but probably had to cover more ground in order to find the same quantity.
Looking at that map has given me some good ideas of places to check out, soilscape 16 seems to be a good area to start with from your data, and I could also spend time in more soilscape 19 areas. If a lot depends on the PH then this could yield some good results.
Do you think it's worth checking soilscape 14 (Freely draining very acid sandy and loamy soils)? Good for acidity but maybe peaty soil with the higher organic content is better than sandy?
My biggest libs came from pink sand soil
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The Other Guy
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Re: Soil Properties for Liberty Cap Hunting [Re: littlespider]
#23737036 - 10/14/16 12:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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littlespider said: My biggest libs came from pink sand soil
Nice, is that at quite high elevation? What soilscape number is showing for that area on the map?
It seems they're not picky then as long as the acidity is there. Might be worth looking at local soilscape 14's.
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littlespider
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Re: Soil Properties for Liberty Cap Hunting [Re: The Other Guy]
#23738380 - 10/14/16 08:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not really. About 200m. The map kust says its a brown soil. The rocks there are sedimentary rocks like sandstone. Where as at the orher side of the hill most of the rocks you see are metamorphic.
The sandy side is best for libs though when it hasnt rained they are small and dry.
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juliaset
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Re: Soil Properties for Liberty Cap Hunting [Re: littlespider]
#23745409 - 10/17/16 12:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Got a chance to check out some areas on peaty podzol this weekend. There had been quite a bit of rain a few days before hand which may have had the most effect.
The first site was a football pitch/park which had a good lot of libs.
The second was a golf course which after a quick check had lots of libs in the rough.
Both areas of peaty podzol were near the sea and with red sandstone underneath.
How much it is to do with the soil and how much it is to do with undisturbed well established mycelium i dont know
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Cow_botherer
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Re: Soil Properties for Liberty Cap Hunting [Re: juliaset]
#23760775 - 10/22/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Many thanks to the people that have helped out this little project 
With the data we have so far I can put together a few observations.
My initial hypothesis was that liberty caps want to grow on acidic soil in poorly-draining areas.
From the information here it seems that yes they very much do grow in acidic areas - from "slightly acidic" and up (using the terms used by the soilscapes website) it seems that the more acidic the better, and "acidic, but base-rich" soils don't tend to harbour mushrooms. In terms of soil drainage, it seems that it doesn't matter whether the ground is very soggy or freely draining - people have reported good finds in either case. However it seems that naturally very wet areas like peat bogs produce huge amounts of liberty caps and are less susceptible to warm and dry conditions like what we've had this season. It could also be hypothesised that areas with poor drainage could produce more mushrooms sooner than more well drained areas when there has been little rain.
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knarkkorven
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Re: Soil Properties for Liberty Cap Hunting [Re: Cow_botherer]
#23760846 - 10/22/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think you should focus more on the humus layer than the soil. The mushroom mycelium is present in the layer of half decomposed dead grass.
That's why there are reports from places with all different types of soil - it simply doesn't matter that much in the equation.
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Blazeyy
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Re: Soil Properties for Liberty Cap Hunting [Re: knarkkorven]
#23760977 - 10/22/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It really doesn't seem to matter much i agree, it is peak season now and yeah.. they are everywhere even on the parks, in forest clearing n shit, 25, 16 n 19 are my main ones though.
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sixbit
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Re: Soil Properties for Liberty Cap Hunting [Re: Cow_botherer]
#28419005 - 08/03/23 04:23 PM (5 months, 24 days ago) |
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after everything I've read rich acid soil is a prerequisite has any thought about using aquarium soil in their substrate mix for Psilocybe semilanceata Cultivation
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