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Wikileaks Exposes Clinton Speech to Financial Institutions * 2
    #23721157 - 10/09/16 02:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Leaked Speech Excerpts Show a Hillary Clinton at Ease With Wall Street

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In lucrative paid speeches that Hillary Clinton delivered to elite financial firms but refused to disclose to the public, she displayed an easy comfort with titans of business, embraced unfettered international trade and praised a budget-balancing plan that would have required cuts to Social Security, according to documents posted online Friday by WikiLeaks.



This doesn't surprise me at all; it simply confirms my beliefs about Hillary.  I also believe she will take us dangerously close to WWIII.  Unfortunately, Trump made his fortune by ripping people off, wants to cut taxes for the rich, and seems emotionally unstable so I can't vote for him.

Jill Stein is the best on the ballot, but she hasn't impressed me much.  So I'm going to write in Bernie.

Luckily, I live in California, where my vote doesn't matter because the state will go to Hillary no matter what I do.


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Re: Wikileaks Exposes Clinton Speech to Financial Institutions [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23722572 - 10/09/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Just come with me and we'll kill the bitch.


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Re: Wikileaks Exposes Clinton Speech to Financial Institutions [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23722895 - 10/09/16 05:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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beforethedawn said:
Just come with me and we'll kill the bitch.



Don't say that now your on a watch list.

World war three is going to happen.  The world needs to bleed negative energy like a mofo.

What I need is a leader that will win world war three.  A leader that will win our troubles away and let us live more freely.

People need to pay a price for their encouragement of war.  Humans are far to easily reaching for the easy and violent solution.  Violence is the animal brains lack of foresight.


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Re: Wikileaks Exposes Clinton Speech to Financial Institutions [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23733549 - 10/13/16 09:26 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

whats a good way to know how much value my vote has? In the UK there is a calculator to show vote value according to constituency area. I'm registered now in Wisconsin. I feel like you about Stein but I'd rather my vote is recorded as third party rather than spoiled. 

All this wikileaks should be bigger news but i guess Trump stuff is a good distraction for her. some of the leaks could have helped bernie if released earlier. It will take some time before these documents are analysed in much detail.


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Re: Wikileaks Exposes Clinton Speech to Financial Institutions [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #23733900 - 10/13/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'm waiting for something juicy to come out the emails, but I've been disappointed so far.


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Re: Wikileaks Exposes Clinton Speech to Financial Institutions [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23740970 - 10/15/16 10:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Leaked Speech Excerpts Show a Hillary Clinton at Ease With Wall Street

Quote:

In lucrative paid speeches that Hillary Clinton delivered to elite financial firms but refused to disclose to the public, she displayed an easy comfort with titans of business, embraced unfettered international trade and praised a budget-balancing plan that would have required cuts to Social Security, according to documents posted online Friday by WikiLeaks.



This doesn't surprise me at all; it simply confirms my beliefs about Hillary.  I also believe she will take us dangerously close to WWIII.  Unfortunately, Trump made his fortune by ripping people off, wants to cut taxes for the rich, and seems emotionally unstable so I can't vote for him.

Jill Stein is the best on the ballot, but she hasn't impressed me much.  So I'm going to write in Bernie.

Luckily, I live in California, where my vote doesn't matter because the state will go to Hillary no matter what I do.




Hillary is going to start world war 3 especially by bashing the russians.
The smartest people in the world are "emotionally unstable"
bernie is a fucking idiot im sorry man.
Trump will get us out of the hole obama is in, while hillary will keep driving us closer and closer to hell.
Hillary clinton has made it to where she is by nothing but lies.
i dont know where you heard trump has been successful by ripping people off. Although im sure there have been a few people who hes ripped off im not going to deny that
hillary is also filthy rich if you didnt know that, whatever her net worth is stated online im positive it's more than that.
Cali is obviously going to be a hillary state anyways.


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Re: Wikileaks Exposes Clinton Speech to Financial Institutions [Re: Dmt_psilocybin] * 2
    #23741021 - 10/15/16 10:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I see your new here, so I'll forgive your ignorant comment that Bernie is an idiot.


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Re: Wikileaks Exposes Clinton Speech to Financial Institutions [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23741029 - 10/15/16 10:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I see your new here, so I'll forgive your ignorant comment that Bernie is an idiot.




I don't want to start a huge argument about mr sanders
but heres an example, raising minumium wage to $10/hr? WHY? the only thing that will come from that is even further diminishing the dollar amount which is already being destroyed.


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Re: Wikileaks Exposes Clinton Speech to Financial Institutions [Re: Dmt_psilocybin] * 2
    #23741037 - 10/15/16 10:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't want to start a huge argument about mr sanders
but heres an example, raising minumium wage to $10/hr? WHY? the only thing that will come from that is even further diminishing the dollar amount which is already being destroyed.



Why would the dollar diminish if American workers earn more money?


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Re: Wikileaks Exposes Clinton Speech to Financial Institutions [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23741052 - 10/15/16 10:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Dmt_psilocybin said:
I don't want to start a huge argument about mr sanders
but heres an example, raising minumium wage to $10/hr? WHY? the only thing that will come from that is even further diminishing the dollar amount which is already being destroyed.



Why would the dollar diminish if American workers earn more money?




Workers earn more money
prices of goods/services go up.
workers earn less money
prices of goods/services go down.
Heres why
businesses have to price things according to the dollar value and the economy. When workers are earning more money, they will start receiving less and less profit until they are forced to price things higher and maintain that profit.
This happens because they have to pay workers more, AND supplies will become more expensive to obtain from other companies forced to do the same in this never ending cycle.


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Re: Wikileaks Exposes Clinton Speech to Financial Institutions [Re: Dmt_psilocybin] * 3
    #23741079 - 10/15/16 10:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Workers earn more money
prices of goods/services go up.
workers earn less money
prices of goods/services go down.
Heres why
businesses have to price things according to the dollar value and the economy. When workers are earning more money, they will start receiving less and less profit until they are forced to price things higher and maintain that profit.
This happens because they have to pay workers more, AND supplies will become more expensive to obtain from other companies forced to do the same in this never ending cycle.



It's been proven many times here with empirical evidence that a 10% US minimum wage increase would raise overall prices by no more than 0.4%.

A 10% increase in wages for a 0.4% increase in prices is not a bad deal!!!  :cookiemonster:


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Re: Wikileaks Exposes Clinton Speech to Financial Institutions [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23741107 - 10/15/16 11:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Dmt_psilocybin said:
Workers earn more money
prices of goods/services go up.
workers earn less money
prices of goods/services go down.
Heres why
businesses have to price things according to the dollar value and the economy. When workers are earning more money, they will start receiving less and less profit until they are forced to price things higher and maintain that profit.
This happens because they have to pay workers more, AND supplies will become more expensive to obtain from other companies forced to do the same in this never ending cycle.



It's been proven many times here with empirical evidence that a 10% US minimum wage increase would raise overall prices by no more than 0.4%.

A 10% increase in wages for a 0.4% increase in prices is not a bad deal!!!  :cookiemonster:




Logically that doesn't make any sense. I would like to see the actual studies done by the cato institute.

However that is overall prices, when looking at individual necessities such as food, they said it would raise 4%.

How would a study be done on that in the first place? business owners can raise prices however much they want. look at history, not studies that make no logical or logistical sense whatsoever.


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Re: Wikileaks Exposes Clinton Speech to Financial Institutions [Re: Dmt_psilocybin] * 2
    #23741120 - 10/15/16 11:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Logically that doesn't make any sense. I would like to see the actual studies done by the cato institute.



There was a link in the post I linked to above (or click here).

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Dmt_psilocybin said:
However that is overall prices, when looking at individual necessities such as food, they said it would raise 4%.



Correct.  Still a very good deal.  I'd take a 10% increase in wages for a 4% increase in food prices.

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How would a study be done on that in the first place? business owners can raise prices however much they want. look at history, not studies that make no logical or logistical sense whatsoever.



It's in the Cato study.  It's based on a great deal of empirical evidence.


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Re: Wikileaks Exposes Clinton Speech to Financial Institutions [Re: Dmt_psilocybin] * 1
    #23742641 - 10/16/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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business owners can raise prices however much they want.




You've obviously never been a business owner.


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Re: Wikileaks Exposes Clinton Speech to Financial Institutions [Re: Enlil]
    #23742731 - 10/16/16 02:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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business owners can raise prices however much they want.




You've obviously never been a business owner.




I have actually and sat there everyday when my mom had her salon.

I could raise prices of t-shirts and various things to $100 if i wanted too. Doesn't mean they would sell but i could do it.


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Re: Wikileaks Exposes Clinton Speech to Financial Institutions [Re: Dmt_psilocybin] * 1
    #23742753 - 10/16/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

My mistake.  You obviously have never been a successful business owner.


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Re: Wikileaks Exposes Clinton Speech to Financial Institutions [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #23742838 - 10/16/16 02:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Lot's of companies use workers like slaves.  Almost 50% of Americans make less than $15 an hour.  That is poverty after taxes. 

I worked a couple of weeks at a very hard job.  We coated all sorts of iron castings.  Some where 75 pound elbow pipes, big as fuck.  Had to lift those way up to a hook 4 feet to 5 feet off the ground.  Lifting litterely tons of iron every day for $12 an hour before taxes.  The fucking lame ass fucker of an owner was saying social security is welfare for seniors.  What does he think his employees futures were?  Not all people inherit money to buy a sweat shop.  Was working with a guy that just got out of prison for murder.  Said fuck that place and stopped going.  The owner even wanted his employees to take drug tests.  Nowhere to move forward in a job like that.  I'd bet most of the guys there have to hustle some drugs to afford a car, rent and food plus bills.  It's like $8 an hour after taxes.  The owner was making a lot of money and flying his little fag airplane around like Ricky rich the homo conservative.


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Re: Wikileaks Exposes Clinton Speech to Financial Institutions [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23742929 - 10/16/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It sounds like you resented the fact that he took the risk and initiative to start a business while you settled to work for one.


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Re: Wikileaks Exposes Clinton Speech to Financial Institutions [Re: Enlil]
    #23742935 - 10/16/16 03:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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My mistake.  You obviously have never been a successful business owner.




Yup not gonna sit here and front mine definitely was not lol.  However my mother could price haircuts at whatever price shed like depening on supply and demand supply and demand depends on the value of the us dollar and other things as well than that is relatively dependent to miniumum wage.

In the 1970's min wage was somewhere around $4-5 an hour. Everyhting was priced alot cheaper.
in 2016 min wage is 8 something, everything is more expensive. Therefore, the value of the dollar has gone down significantly.

Think about what i said, that is not a coincidence.


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Re: Wikileaks Exposes Clinton Speech to Financial Institutions [Re: Enlil]
    #23742943 - 10/16/16 03:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Oh psyche analysis.

A risk?  He bought a successful buisness that somebody worked to build before him.  He pays nearly nothing for labor.  He has a corner on a market the local foundry relied on.

Hope he crashes his plane!


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