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NE Ohio Horse Manure Cubensis - Updated with more
    #23720510 - 10/08/16 07:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

--1: the big one
Habitat:
Growing in a section of a pasture where horse manure has been piled up for 2 years.

Gills: see pictures

Stem:
Thick (It got rather smashed, but is pictured)

Cap:
3" across
almost flat with a curve down near the outside edge
Fawn brown, fading toward the edge to a cream color with a blue tint

Spore print color:
blackish brownish with a Purple tint

Bruising:
Blue and kinda greenish

--2: The two small ones
Habitat:
Growing in a section of a pasture where horse manure has been piled up for 2 years.

Gills: different lengths like the dividing marks on a ruler extending in to the center.

Stem:
Thin and long, a slight twist in the lines that travel up the shaft.
almost woody texture
mostly dark brown - black
bruises to black

Cap:
These 2 are dark brown, others were a little darker, some were lighter brown.
A strong, even curve, with a little nipple on top.


Spore print color:
Jet Black

Bruising:
none




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Re: NE Ohio Horse Manure [Re: JagerTree]
    #23720522 - 10/08/16 08:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Psilocybe cubensis and Panaeolus papilionaceus.


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Re: NE Ohio Horse Manure [Re: JagerTree]
    #23720523 - 10/08/16 08:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The large bluing one looks like Psilocybe cubensis.

The others are some species of Panaeolus.

I had no idea cubes grew that far north, am I mistaken trusted identifiers?


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Re: NE Ohio Horse Manure [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #23720525 - 10/08/16 08:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

An Ohio cube??? Wowsers trousers


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Re: NE Ohio Horse Manure [Re: Lucis]
    #23720531 - 10/08/16 08:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

That's what I thought, too far north... which is why I ignored a bunch of them that were around all summer.  I have been told OVER and OVER that "*NO* actives grow in horse manure in NE ohio!" and I always think "well, okay... should never say never, but idk, i'm a myconewb."
If it is, it'll be the first decent active i've ever scored.



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Re: NE Ohio Horse Manure [Re: JagerTree]
    #23720549 - 10/08/16 08:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

This has to be the furthest north a wild cubensis has ever been found by hundreds of miles, you have just given scores of people hope


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Re: NE Ohio Horse Manure [Re: doctorghosty]
    #23720555 - 10/08/16 08:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

YAY!

It's somewhere between the ohio river, and youngstown... in case someone wants to know... i'm not getting any more specific. :laugh:  first edible active score! :smile:
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NOM NOM NOM


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Re: NE Ohio Horse Manure [Re: JagerTree]
    #23720560 - 10/08/16 08:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

JagerTree said:
"*NO* actives grow in horse manure in NE ohio!"





Panaeolus cinctulus do too.


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Re: NE Ohio Horse Manure [Re: Lucis]
    #23720578 - 10/08/16 08:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I have looked for pan cincts, but all I ever find is Pan foenisecii i think they are?... brown spores, not black?

I was hoping these might have been pan cincts, what makes the Panaeolus papilionaceus diff from Panaeolus Cinctulus?


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Re: NE Ohio Horse Manure [Re: JagerTree]
    #23720676 - 10/08/16 09:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Panaeolus papilionaceus 'margin adorned with white toothlike partial veil fragments when young'

Panaeolus papilionaceus has a much thinner stem than cinctulus- which also isn't normally found growing directly on dung.


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Re: NE Ohio Horse Manure [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #23720678 - 10/08/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Awesome, thanks! :smile:


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Re: NE Ohio Horse Manure [Re: JagerTree]
    #23720754 - 10/08/16 09:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Cool find! :highfive:


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Re: NE Ohio Horse Manure Cubensis [Re: JagerTree]
    #23721011 - 10/08/16 11:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Can you get some more pics of the P. cubensis?


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Re: NE Ohio Horse Manure Cubensis [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #23721106 - 10/09/16 12:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry, it's too late for pictures. :laugh:  :letyourspiritsoar:

next time they show up I'll post.


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Re: NE Ohio Horse Manure Cubensis [Re: JagerTree]
    #23721141 - 10/09/16 01:36 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You may have eaten the only Psilocybe cubensis ever found in Ohio, I hope it was worth it.
:feelssadman:


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Re: NE Ohio Horse Manure Cubensis [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #23721486 - 10/09/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

What'd you expect him to do? :lol:

Nobody asked him to save it.


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Re: NE Ohio Horse Manure Cubensis [Re: Ran-D]
    #23721536 - 10/09/16 09:20 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I would have eaten it too.

I'd really like to see photos of the  habitat this was found in.


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Re: NE Ohio Horse Manure Cubensis [Re: JagerTree] * 1
    #23721569 - 10/09/16 09:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I have a theory about this.

I used to find Psilocybe cubensis in a very northern part of Georgia, but only at the end of the year, and always on a mixture of stable shavings, hay, and horse dung.  They would only fruit for a short period of time, but always at the end of the year, and never in great quantities.


I don't see why a mushroom wouldn't grow in a state they're usually not found in, if the conditions were correct for it to fruit, then I think if the spores were they, they would fruit, they just take longer to grow because the area lacks the consistent humidity and warmer climates cubensis are accustomed to growing in.  Perhaps cubensis is more widespread, but the season is just short in the more norther states, and they don't fruit in such great numbers like in the gulf regions, so are not thought to grow there because rarely observed doing so.

Perhaps people should be looking for cubensis in other states at the end of the summer/early fall, in horse pastures.  Try to find the area where all the dung is dumped (no pun intended), give that a look.


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Re: NE Ohio Horse Manure Cubensis [Re: RiverDweller1]
    #23721911 - 10/09/16 11:55 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I would have eaten it too.

I'd really like to see photos of the  habitat this was found in.



If you found one growing naturally in Oregon would you eat it?


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Re: NE Ohio Horse Manure Cubensis [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #23721987 - 10/09/16 12:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Sure, after a spore print and a tissue sample on agar


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