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Man improsoned by the Gestapo and forced into Hitlers army for playing jazz... 1
#23719711 - 10/08/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Mangelsdorff
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n 1942 and 1943, Mangelsdorff studied clarinet at the Hoch Conservatory in Frankfurt. As a member of the (illegal) Frankfurt Hot Club, his performing of jazz led him to being imprisoned by the Gestapo. He was forced into the Hitler army and was a Russian prisoner of war for four years. In 1949 he came back to Frankfurt and decided to become a professional jazz musician.

Never have I heard such a crazy story about a musician.... So awesome he went back to jazz after all that 
He received an "Order of Merit of the Federal Republic of Germany".
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Re: Man improsoned by the Gestapo and forced into Hitlers army for playing jazz... [Re: musiclover420]
#23720282 - 10/08/16 06:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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sounds like that movie "the pianist"
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Re: Man improsoned by the Gestapo and forced into Hitlers army for playing jazz... [Re: Konyap]
#23720342 - 10/08/16 06:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Konyap said: sounds like that movie "the pianist"
Never saw or heard of that, is it about a jazz pianist who went through something similiar?
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Re: Man improsoned by the Gestapo and forced into Hitlers army for playing jazz... [Re: musiclover420]
#23720617 - 10/08/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Can't have any entarte kunst. They destroyed loads of contemporary art as well. I wonder what they would think of Sunn O)))
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Re: Man improsoned by the Gestapo and forced into Hitlers army for playing jazz... [Re: saythatagain]
#23720662 - 10/08/16 08:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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saythatagain said: Can't have any entarte kunst. They destroyed loads of contemporary art as well. I wonder what they would think of Sunn O)))
I never realized that aspect of the Nazi party I guess so it was surprising to hear of something like this happening to a jazz musician.
"entarte kunst" is a ridiculous term, the US has taken the opposite approach to punishing "degenerate artists/ musicians" and is instead promoting them
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Re: Man improsoned by the Gestapo and forced into Hitlers army for playing jazz... [Re: musiclover420]
#23720879 - 10/08/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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musiclover420 said:
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Konyap said: sounds like that movie "the pianist"
Never saw or heard of that, is it about a jazz pianist who went through something similiar?
yeah but he was more classical /eastern european he was jewish and they made him play if he didn't tell people about his talent he would have surely been shot
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Re: Man improsoned by the Gestapo and forced into Hitlers army for playing jazz... [Re: Konyap]
#23721007 - 10/08/16 11:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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That would be crazy, at least he didn't get shot... Playing music to save your life would be strange.
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Re: Man improsoned by the Gestapo and forced into Hitlers army for playing jazz... [Re: musiclover420]
#23721035 - 10/08/16 11:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You've never seen the Pianist? It was made by Roman Polanski.
Also based on a true story
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Re: Man improsoned by the Gestapo and forced into Hitlers army for playing jazz... [Re: Crystal G]
#23721118 - 10/09/16 01:02 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't watch too many documentaries, I tend to just watch old random stuff. That looks like an intense movie though.
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Re: Man improsoned by the Gestapo and forced into Hitlers army for playing jazz... [Re: musiclover420]
#23721120 - 10/09/16 01:03 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's not a documentary. It's a drama made by Polanski.
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Re: Man improsoned by the Gestapo and forced into Hitlers army for playing jazz... [Re: Crystal G]
#23721124 - 10/09/16 01:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jazz was Entartete Musik, or "Degenerated Music" simply because it originated with black people and wasn't Wagner or Beethoven.
Fuck you Hitler, we listen to what we want to.
Your mighty Reich of lockstep proved no match for the march of Progress.
The Horst Wessel Lied proved inferior to Harry Roy's serenade to his girl's pussy.
Deal with it.
Shave em dry!
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Re: Man improsoned by the Gestapo and forced into Hitlers army for playing jazz... [Re: Asante]
#23721155 - 10/09/16 02:15 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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that first song is hilarious I don't even know what to think about it....
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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Re: Man improsoned by the Gestapo and forced into Hitlers army for playing jazz... [Re: musiclover420]
#23721179 - 10/09/16 03:13 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Man improsoned by the Gestapo and forced into Hitlers army for playing jazz... [Re: Asante] 1
#23721195 - 10/09/16 03:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm a bit emotional.
I just got news that in my country, Holland, that a group of drag queens were harrassed and that the police once more stood by and did NOTHING.
Now, drag queens are not my thing but dammit, if you believe in freedom and the right to be yourself no matter what the odds then gay or straight, butch or femme, these are YOUR people. Drag queens fight for your right to be different also, no matter in what way you are different.
Let me tell you something about Holland.
When the nazis bombed the crap out of Rotterdam and forced us to capitulate and occupied our country, you can wonder, what did the police do?
To serve and protect right?
Well, no.
They took the portrait of Queen Wilhelmina down at the police station, put up the portrait of Hitler and kept on being cops, now with the added "duty"" of handing over Jews, Gays, Communisys and patriots from the resistance to the Nazis who then exterminated them.
Fucking cops man.
After the war the picture of Hitler went down, Queen Wilhelmina was put up and it was business as usual again.
No it's not OK. That is not OK.
As the Dutch said in the war: "keep your paws off our fucking Jews." Likewise now, "Keep your paws off our fucking drag queens."
We Shroomerites are an oppressed minority, xdrug users in the war on drugs, so let us exercise tolerance and solidarity for all other minorities.
Your oppression has created a monster and we absolutely will not yield to tyranny.
Nie Wieder - Never Again.
Or we'll raise bloody hell, like in Stonewall, or Cable Street.
No Pasaran - You Shall Not Pass.
Here's for the drag queens, the transgenders, the gays the Jews the druggies for everyone who takes a stand for being different.
Bring it on.
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Re: Man improsoned by the Gestapo and forced into Hitlers army for playing jazz... [Re: Asante]
#23721212 - 10/09/16 04:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well-behaved drag queens seldom make history.
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Re: Man improsoned by the Gestapo and forced into Hitlers army for playing jazz... [Re: abltsandwich]
#23721214 - 10/09/16 04:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Exactly
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Re: Man improsoned by the Gestapo and forced into Hitlers army for playing jazz... [Re: Asante]
#23721220 - 10/09/16 04:22 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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We are such a strange species.
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Re: Man improsoned by the Gestapo and forced into Hitlers army for playing jazz... [Re: abltsandwich]
#23721227 - 10/09/16 04:34 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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We are as strange as the universe is, because its the universe that made us so strange. Embrace it, in yourself and others.
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Re: Man improsoned by the Gestapo and forced into Hitlers army for playing jazz... [Re: abltsandwich]
#23721228 - 10/09/16 04:37 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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abltsandwich said: We are such a strange species.
Yes indeed.
On a related note the intro to this album has a eerie sample that sounds like a woman talking about hitler or some other psycho:
Nick Johnston - Remarkably Human - Full Album
The entire album is solid gold but for some reason I find the intro very moving.
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#23721235 - 10/09/16 04:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Its a beautiful, moving intro. It speaks directly to the heart, thats what moves you. It does sound like it could be about Hitler.
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Re: Man improsoned by the Gestapo and forced into Hitlers army for playing jazz... [Re: Asante]
#23722324 - 10/09/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Or Trump glad you enjoyed it you, you reminded me of it.
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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Re: Man improsoned by the Gestapo and forced into Hitlers army for playing jazz... [Re: Konyap]
#23722337 - 10/09/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Konyap said: sounds like that movie "the pianist"
Sounds more like "Swing Kids" to me.
http://www.watchfree.to/watch-5484-Swing-Kids-movie-online-free-putlocker.html#close-modal
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