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SPORES TO SUBSTRATE
    #23719551 - 10/08/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Hello,

I've attempted cultivating medicinal mushrooms in the past and have done okay. I've recently collect some spore from fly agaric and liberty caps. Can anyone advise how i ago about converting these spores into mycelium jars, can i use pasteurised bird seeds, can i use card board etc...

Also can anyone tell me about the worms found in liberty caps...

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Re: SPORES TO SUBSTRATE [Re: Dr Doolittle]
    #23719580 - 10/08/16 01:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Worms are just little bug larvae stick them in the fridge on low and they usually drop out.
I'm pretty sure libs are difficult to cultivate indoors but there is a thread dedicated to it in the AMU on here. Flyagarics I've no clue about as they ain't mushrooms.


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Re: SPORES TO SUBSTRATE [Re: Dr Doolittle]
    #23719582 - 10/08/16 01:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Wild sporeprints? You should definitely use agar plates first.


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Re: SPORES TO SUBSTRATE [Re: enlightenment]
    #23719597 - 10/08/16 01:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Don't use card board for anything as said above agar is the only way to succeed unless you have mad skills. Which if your asking how to do it I'm guessing you don't have, so agar is a must.


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Re: SPORES TO SUBSTRATE [Re: Dr Doolittle]
    #23719629 - 10/08/16 02:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yea yea wild spores!



I once bought some potato starch to use as a type of agar but never got round to using it. Agar is a type of kelp / seaweed right...

So what would be the procedure, transfer some spore onto the agar plates etc and let them do their thing, keep things sterile and temperature right etc...

Cardboard has worked for me in the past for other stuff but I've never worked with spores before.

Okay, many thanks folks !


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Re: SPORES TO SUBSTRATE [Re: Dr Doolittle]
    #23719633 - 10/08/16 02:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

wtf did you print them on?

use something non stick. like foil or a laminated object.


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Re: SPORES TO SUBSTRATE [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23719634 - 10/08/16 02:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: SPORES TO SUBSTRATE [Re: Dr Doolittle]
    #23719642 - 10/08/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The easiest way it to just buy a bag of PDA or MEA off eBay then you just add water and pc it. Then plate it up or use pasty plates and PC your agar in the pasty plates if you don't wanna do a pour.


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Re: SPORES TO SUBSTRATE [Re: mrmazdarx9] * 1
    #23719700 - 10/08/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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Worms are just little bug larvae stick them in the fridge on low and they usually drop out.
I'm pretty sure libs are difficult to cultivate indoors but there is a thread dedicated to it in the AMU on here. Flyagarics I've no clue about as they ain't mushrooms.



:lolwut: fly agarics are definitely mushrooms, amanita muscaria.

They cannot be cultivated indoors as they need a host tree with living roots
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Re: SPORES TO SUBSTRATE [Re: natedawgnow]
    #23719723 - 10/08/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

mrmazdarx9 said:
Worms are just little bug larvae stick them in the fridge on low and they usually drop out.
I'm pretty sure libs are difficult to cultivate indoors but there is a thread dedicated to it in the AMU on here. Flyagarics I've no clue about as they ain't mushrooms.



:lolwut: fly agarics are definitely mushrooms, amanita muscaria.

They cannot be cultivated indoors as they need a host tree with living roots
to fruit.



Thought they were toadstools my bad which I know is the sort of the same thing anyway so I dunno pretty drunk tbh :rofl:


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Re: SPORES TO SUBSTRATE [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23719868 - 10/08/16 03:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the link Amindogan,

Thanks for the advice MrMadarex

Would it be possible to use a bonsai tree as root host Natedowgnow? Cheers


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Re: SPORES TO SUBSTRATE [Re: Dr Doolittle]
    #23719925 - 10/08/16 03:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

What about in your garden? Maybe plant a little tree or something, defo got me thinking about it now. I'm not a big fan of the effects of flyagaric (I ate 10g but tbh I did also have amt and 50x extract salvia all at the same time) but its a gorgeous looking fruit and I love to see a massive one when walking through the forest. I've got a load of trees and tall hedges with a large gap between the ground and where the branches start. I'll have to go looking get some spores.
I wouldn't mind cleaning them up on agar.


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Re: SPORES TO SUBSTRATE [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23720112 - 10/08/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

And respect to Mushboy for that one re spores, of course, non-stick makes sense for collecting spores etc.

Yes Mrmazdax, outdoors 100% in their natural environment, there are a few Birch trees around my block I was considering inoculating with agaric but if successful there would be a risk of children being attracted to them, so think I'll leave that one out for now. I'll just stick to foraging, best way, will hopefully find some more laters. Have just dried out an agaric but will give it a few weeks before use to be sure etc. Sorry to hear about your negative experience on with agaric.

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Re: SPORES TO SUBSTRATE [Re: Dr Doolittle]
    #23720323 - 10/08/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

fly agarics are not the "entheogen" most people want to indulge in. it's kind of garbage. muscimol trips are not well rated, that's for sure


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Re: SPORES TO SUBSTRATE [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23720328 - 10/08/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

indeed.

i tried a dose once. was like the flu without feeling sick.
not pleasant at all.


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Re: SPORES TO SUBSTRATE [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23720330 - 10/08/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

:whathesaid:
Deliriants are something I'll never mess with, including fly agaric.

Amanitas are also mycorrhizal which means they are essentially impossible to cultivate.


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Re: SPORES TO SUBSTRATE [Re: Greg]
    #23720376 - 10/08/16 06:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If you have a mature scotch pine, fir, or Hemlock in your house for the Amanita Muscaria (fly agaric)to symbiote with, then possible you could grow it indoors.  Most people don't usually grow 70 foot trees in doors so I doubt you could pull it off.

As for the liberty caps I believe there is a thread around here somewhere addressing that particular question.

PS The Amanita "trip" is variable.  Some people have a spiritual experience, but more often than not it's just a grossly nauseous 5 hours.  Region, time of year, weather etc all have an impact on it.


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Re: SPORES TO SUBSTRATE [Re: 7munkee]
    #23721170 - 10/09/16 02:59 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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As for the liberty caps I believe there is a thread around here somewhere addressing that particular question.




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I'm pretty sure libs are difficult to cultivate indoors but there is a thread dedicated to it in the AMU on here.




As said in my first post its in the AMU here you go OP
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Re: SPORES TO SUBSTRATE [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23721225 - 10/09/16 04:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Cheeers Bodhisatta, Mushboy, Greg, 7Munkee and Mrmazdarx!! PS 70ft Tree, couldn't bonsai trees be used for indoors instead? Anyway, av had a change of psyche now and certain things should be left to occur naturally in nature :mushroom2:

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Hmmm interesting, I watched a trip report on psilocybin and the guy had some mental nightmare Alien Abduction type thing, which wasn't my experience the other night, i found I had to lay down close eyes and watch the lights shapes do their thing, although not as vivid as I would have thought, but the sonic sounds where something! Interesting frequency.

I'm not gonna cook the fly agaric, maybe seep quater to half in hot water and drink, then eat if need be, this is what i did with the liberty caps, had to eat in end in order to trip!


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Re: SPORES TO SUBSTRATE [Re: Dr Doolittle]
    #23721667 - 10/09/16 10:22 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

When people see aliens and shit on mushrooms its because they were alien retards to begin with. My heroin addict and dopey retard acquaintances are always the ones that see monsters, demons, and alien shit on dmt and shrooms

If mushrooms are magically mystic and spiritual (maybe religious) to you it's because your Psyche holds onto these themes in your everyday life and you're a cling onto spiritual shit person

Otherwise they're just drugs that help with introspective thoughts if you're scientifically minded and have transcended the need for spiritual mysticism bullshit in your life.


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