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First Grow Pics! Question
    #23718998 - 10/08/16 10:34 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Well, only 3/6 of my cakes colonized from the spores, but the ones that did, did pretty well I think! My question is, about how many dried grams do you think are going to be made out of the bottom picture where I have plucked the ones on the paper towel in the bottom picture? I am going to get a food scale today to find out for sure after the drying process is finished. Also, I'm waiting for the little ones on the top to finish growing and then I'll have a bit more to play with. I'm planning to start by taking 1g, then 2g, then 3g, etc until I work up to Mckenna's heroic dose.





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Re: First Grow Pics! Question [Re: Aaron330]
    #23719018 - 10/08/16 10:40 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'm gonna guess at about 5 or 6 grams dry


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Re: First Grow Pics! Question [Re: Aaron330]
    #23719025 - 10/08/16 10:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I would just start with 5-7 grams. Potency is average until you get into agar and cloning then testing to keep potent genetics around.

Every two spores that mate is a strain so you have 100s of strains of the VARIETY you picked(varieties are often called strains which is dumb marketing techniques)

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Re: First Grow Pics! Question [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23720157 - 10/08/16 05:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the replies you guys! So you really think I should start with 5-7 grams for my first trip? lol i was thinking like 1-2 grams.

One other question: these tiny little ones on the side are growing very slow, and I was wondering if they are ok to consume if they never grow much larger than this?



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Re: First Grow Pics! Question [Re: Aaron330]
    #23720167 - 10/08/16 05:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

bodhisatta are you serious? First time 5-7 g dry??? WTF
I recommend to start with 2g if you have never experienced psychedelics. I never had an ms grow that would be that weak to recommend 7g to a newcomer.


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Re: First Grow Pics! Question [Re: Aaron330]
    #23720200 - 10/08/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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bodhisatta are you serious? First time 5-7 g dry??? WTF
I recommend to start with 2g if you have never experienced psychedelics. I never had an ms grow that would be that weak to recommend 7g to a newcomer.



yes, I recommend 5-7

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Thanks for the replies you guys! So you really think I should start with 5-7 grams for my first trip? lol i was thinking like 1-2 grams.

One other question: these tiny little ones on the side are growing very slow, and I was wondering if they are ok to consume if they never grow much larger than this?





those pins are fucked, they're aborts and infected with pseudomonas

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Re: First Grow Pics! Question [Re: Aaron330]
    #23720205 - 10/08/16 05:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Thanks for the replies you guys! So you really think I should start with 5-7 grams for my first trip? lol i was thinking like 1-2 grams.

One other question: these tiny little ones on the side are growing very slow, and I was wondering if they are ok to consume if they never grow much larger than this?





Maybe those little guys are more your level of dosage.  A level 5 dose is what you need to learn before sharing and caring.


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Re: First Grow Pics! Question [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
    #23720212 - 10/08/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I believe he asked how many grams would he get from the last pic dry in his OP. Then asked if that's how many he should take first trip. The answer is pretty much the same.


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Re: First Grow Pics! Question [Re: PortabellaFella 1]
    #23720224 - 10/08/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

eat them til you're full


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Re: First Grow Pics! Question [Re: Aaron330]
    #23720265 - 10/08/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Eat all of them.  If you can.  Slowly easing up the dose will leave you disapointed in the end.


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Re: First Grow Pics! Question [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
    #23720270 - 10/08/16 06:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

:whathesaid:

all at once, trying to eat more later doesn't ever do what you want it to.


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Re: First Grow Pics! Question [Re: Aaron330]
    #23721161 - 10/09/16 02:32 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Great advice you guys, thanks! I don't think I have the balls to jump straight into 5g on my first dose. Maybe I'll try 2.5g and then if it goes well I'll jump straight to 5 on the next dose.

So I should definitely avoid eating the small little ones that never develop into a full mushroom with the cap, etc?


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Re: First Grow Pics! Question [Re: Aaron330]
    #23721234 - 10/09/16 04:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Great advice you guys, thanks! I don't think I have the balls to jump straight into 5g on my first dose. Maybe I'll try 2.5g and then if it goes well I'll jump straight to 5 on the next dose.

So I should definitely avoid eating the small little ones that never develop into a full mushroom with the cap, etc?



A 3.5 gram is a NORMAL STARTING DOSE. You are going to trip i promise. Going from 3.5 grams to 4 grams is technically doubling the dose the way it works in your body. I forgot which TC said that or if it was Terence McKenna haha eather way don't listen to these guys telling you to eat 7 grams. 5 grams is considered aheroic dose and to say how many grams are in that pic is hardto say. They could be hollow, super dense, smaller in person.....so get yourself a scale. Mushies are 90% water and 10% actual flesh. So 100 grams wet is 10 grams dried. Nice harvest btw


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Re: First Grow Pics! Question [Re: Kalsticky]
    #23721565 - 10/09/16 09:37 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

5 grams of MS fruits is mild usually.
Don't be a pussy

Cubes usually are more like 93% water 7% mass when dried


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Re: First Grow Pics! Question [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23721580 - 10/09/16 09:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Trust me. Dosing without a scale is scary. One time I thought I wasn't eating nearly enough. I ate two handfuls of dried mushrooms. In retrospect, it was atleast 5-8 grams. I remember laying in the floor without a single sense of time or anything. Thought I had died and was coming back to life slowly.


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Re: First Grow Pics! Question [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23721586 - 10/09/16 09:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

What's wrong with that.


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Re: First Grow Pics! Question [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23721589 - 10/09/16 09:50 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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5 grams of MS fruits is mild usually.
Don't be a pussy





I disagree, potency varies so start low and increase quantity over time. I do recommend to take 2-2.5g as starting dose. Depending on tolerance it can be more or less.

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Cubes usually are more like 93% water 7% mass when dried




I agree, in my experience shrooms have between 7-8% dried mass and the rest is water.

Generally you should look for a micro scale before consuming any kind of substance where fine tuning is necessary.

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Re: First Grow Pics! Question [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23721595 - 10/09/16 09:54 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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What's wrong with that.





Well it was quite scary on my psyche.


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Re: First Grow Pics! Question [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23721641 - 10/09/16 10:10 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Im more of a 7-10g kind of trip person. If it's a strong clone 2g does the trick but I eat 7 anyway because let's make sure we forget about earth at some point


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Re: First Grow Pics! Question [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23721782 - 10/09/16 11:07 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

grab life by the pussy and eat all them bitches.

i did 2g last week(first trip in a long time) and i was overwhelmed
but isnt that the point? you grew them. man up and eat them bitches


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Re: First Grow Pics! Question [Re: mushboy]
    #23721858 - 10/09/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Especially if you grew them idk why you would fuck around and not eat a half oz


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Re: First Grow Pics! Question [Re: Kalsticky]
    #23722194 - 10/09/16 01:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Great advice you guys, thanks! I don't think I have the balls to jump straight into 5g on my first dose. Maybe I'll try 2.5g and then if it goes well I'll jump straight to 5 on the next dose.

So I should definitely avoid eating the small little ones that never develop into a full mushroom with the cap, etc?



A 3.5 gram is a NORMAL STARTING DOSE. You are going to trip i promise. Going from 3.5 grams to 4 grams is technically doubling the dose the way it works in your body. I forgot which TC said that or if it was Terence McKenna haha eather way don't listen to these guys telling you to eat 7 grams. 5 grams is considered aheroic dose and to say how many grams are in that pic is hardto say. They could be hollow, super dense, smaller in person.....so get yourself a scale. Mushies are 90% water and 10% actual flesh. So 100 grams wet is 10 grams dried. Nice harvest btw




haha the replies on this thread have been fucking awesome. I have no idea what to think, I'm just excited AF for my first trip. I've been preparing for this for about 4 months now. I'll start with 1.5g and then jump to 3.5 on my second trip and then 5g on my third.

Only two remaining questions are:

1) Is it unsafe to eat the little tiny aborted ones? Should I avoid those at all costs or not worry if one or two sneak in?

2) What Tek do you guys recommend for a first time user? Lemon Tek? Soup? How do you guys eat yours?


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Re: First Grow Pics! Question [Re: Aaron330]
    #23722202 - 10/09/16 01:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think 1.5 will be enough.... eat 2 grams, and eat the ones with the biggest caps. IME 2 people can have a good time splitting an 8th. So 2 grams should do you good. Also yes lemon Tek it.


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    #23722206 - 10/09/16 01:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Put them in your mouth tek. The shit about 3.5 and 4 being double is straight bullshit.

Terence while smart is also a complete fucking Looney.

I prefer tea I cut them up small or take dried shrooms and grind them up to poweder in a coffee grinder. Then put in a French press and pour boiling not water on them. Wait ten minutes and drink

Two grams is two grams regardless of cap size. Caps are not more potent that's bullshit from one shittily done study in the 70s

I've ate just stems and they're just as strong by weight they don't disappoint


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Re: First Grow Pics! Question [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23722334 - 10/09/16 01:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

put them in your mouth tek.


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Re: First Grow Pics! Question [Re: mushboy]
    #23722364 - 10/09/16 02:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

This thread is fucking golden. Thanks for the advice guys. 2g it is! I'll Lemon Tek it up the first few times until I stop being a pussy, and then I'll move to the highly sophisticated and scientifically backed, "put em in your mouth" Tek :grin:

I put my dried mushies in a plastic bag. About how long do they last like this before they start losing potency?


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Re: First Grow Pics! Question [Re: Aaron330]
    #23722381 - 10/09/16 02:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

if they're cracker dry(noobs always underestimate how long this takes)
then they stay good for years if kept cracker dry. in an airtight container.

in a baggie they get flexible again in a few weeks and that's gross


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    #23722390 - 10/09/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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if they're cracker dry(noobs always underestimate how long this takes)





how long do you dry them bodhi? like time wise.


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Re: First Grow Pics! Question [Re: mushboy]
    #23722396 - 10/09/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I always just go about a day in a food dehydrator. smaller shrooms can be done in like 10-12 hours but most of the time it takes longer than 12 to get monotub sized shrooms cracker dry IMO


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    #23723164 - 10/09/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

:2cents:  and IMHO and experience. Whether you take 2g or 8g. Make sure you are in a good place mentally and environmentally.


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Re: First Grow Pics! Question [Re: PortabellaFella 1]
    #23723255 - 10/09/16 07:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

2 grams wow...watch out!!! you might end up puking all night!!


12 grams is when the fun comes.

You might as well eat 2 grams and go to bed.


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    #23723306 - 10/09/16 07:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Eat all of them.  If you can.  Slowly easing up the dose will leave you disapointed in the end.



It won't hurt to eat'em all. Personally I eat double that easily. Like er'body else says if u only eat a little u might b disappointed. People think your gonna see flying elephants & crap, but honestly I have never saw anything like that on cubes. I just get colors CEV's & tracers things moving, and sometimes a flying squirrel. Peace & Love Don't b scared. Fear could b dangerous. Remember they say you would have to eat ur bodyweight to O.D. Peace & Love Happy Tripping


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    #23723314 - 10/09/16 07:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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2 grams wow...watch out!!! you might end up puking all night!!


12 grams is when the fun comes.

You might as well eat 2 grams and go to bed.



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    #23726370 - 10/10/16 07:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Eat all of them.  If you can.  Slowly easing up the dose will leave you disapointed in the end.



It won't hurt to eat'em all. Personally I eat double that easily. Like er'body else says if u only eat a little u might b disappointed. People think your gonna see flying elephants & crap, but honestly I have never saw anything like that on cubes. I just get colors CEV's & tracers things moving, and sometimes a flying squirrel. Peace & Love Don't b scared. Fear could b dangerous. Remember they say you would have to eat ur bodyweight to O.D. Peace & Love Happy Tripping




Wow, are you serious? Everything I've read says that even at 3g you can have crazy trips. A lot of 5g trip reports I've read talk about going to other planets and meeting Aliens and shit, having complete ego death, etc. I guess everyone is different, so I"m gonna take the cautious approach and start at like 2g and work my way up.


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    #23727904 - 10/11/16 10:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)



They recommend 2 grams for cluster headaches just to start.
OP has been reading the noob forums too much.

This is why people never get anywhere.

Do reaearch next time please.


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    #23729470 - 10/11/16 08:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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They recommend 2 grams for cluster headaches just to start.
OP has been reading the noob forums too much.

This is why people never get anywhere.

Do reaearch next time please.




All I've done is non-stop research for the past 4 months. I've watched every video on youtube there is about mushrooms, listened to at least a dozen terrance mckenna lectures, scoured forums and trip reports for hundreds of hours I'm sure. What exactly should I have discovered by now that I haven't?


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