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OfflineIfishhigh
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Where to get good cacti
    #23718553 - 10/08/16 07:02 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think I'm breaking any rules by asking because I checked all the sponsors on shroomery and no one is sending me cactus in us. Can anyone or someone please pm me and tell me where I can get some good fresh or good powder. I tried jimmzz on eBay. I did 1 foot of his bridgesii and felt nothing. Than I ordered powder from a guy in Peru, did a everclear extraction of 50 grams powdered this morning and didn't trip. I thought for sure I would feel it today. Please can someone tell me where to get something dependable.  Pm me. I want to write a trip report already !!!!!!


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Re: Where to get good cacti [Re: Ifishhigh]
    #23719072 - 10/08/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

In a few years I'm going to start growing tons of cactus and when they get old enough i'm gunna start selling them for a good price and they will be good product. I'll make a site and everything.
Dependable stuff can be found online u just gotta find the right site


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Re: Where to get good cacti [Re: ergoticmandala]
    #23719097 - 10/08/16 11:05 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Grow yer own. Seeds are easy to find, worldseedsupply is a sponsor and has many different varieties of trichocereus. It takes a few years but eventually you'll have all the mescaline you want. Otherwise, buy live cuttings of t. bridgesii and grow it out. Buying powder or cuttings to just cut up is expensive and kind of wasteful. Taking cuttings of established plants that you have is free and if done right will simply encourage your plants to send out more pups and lead toward more cactus. Buy a few cuttings if you absolutel must try it right away, one to consume and a couple to grow out. :shrug:


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Re: Where to get good cacti [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #23719581 - 10/08/16 01:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Im surprised Jiimz didn't cut it for you. That's regarded as prime cactus right there. You sure it wasn't the preparation? Are you on any meds? I sure hope you're wrong because I have some San Pedros in the mail and Bridgesii already that i think may have come from him as well.


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Re: Where to get good cacti [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #23719722 - 10/08/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Could of been how I prepped it. For example I only did 1 pull. I took only the outer skin off. I cut up the whole cutting 12 ft core too. Blended it with water. Bring to a boil in pot. Than reduced to simmer. Did this for 6 hours adding water on 2 occasions. At the 6 hour mark I let it reduce. Strained through cheese cloth. Cooled overnight than drank first thing in the morning. I didn't feel anything. My prep could of been amateur I guess. I didn't add lemon juice . I'm on no meds


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Re: Where to get good cacti [Re: Ifishhigh]
    #23719738 - 10/08/16 02:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If I were to retry it the one thing I would do different. I would have strained it before letting it reduce. As in cook for desired time of chourse than strain than add back to reduce. Straining it after reduction is too difficult because it's so thick it dosent want to pass through straining method ( shirt or cheese cloth ) . I think this is a good ideas. Someone with more expertise can correct me if I'm wrong


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Re: Where to get good cacti [Re: Ifishhigh]
    #23719825 - 10/08/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

u only really need to cook the stuff for like 2-4 hours, doing it more than that is pretty much overkill, and its not good to run out of water, u always gotta have some water in there for the alkaloids to filter into, I think distilled water is best but any type will work

I bet that your cactus was just really impotent
If a cactus is less than say at least 2 years old, it will take more cactus to really blast off, ideally you would want deeply dark cuttings from a plant which has been growing 10+ years, but thats in a perfect world. It's hard to know how good the cuttings are when you aren't growing your own stuff, cactus potency can really vary and this is especially the case with young cacti


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Re: Where to get good cacti [Re: ergoticmandala]
    #23721393 - 10/09/16 07:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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u only really need to cook the stuff for like 2-4 hours, doing it more than that is pretty much overkill, and its not good to run out of water, u always gotta have some water in there for the alkaloids to filter into, I think distilled water is best but any type will work

I bet that your cactus was just really impotent
If a cactus is less than say at least 2 years old, it will take more cactus to really blast off, ideally you would want deeply dark cuttings from a plant which has been growing 10+ years, but thats in a perfect world. It's hard to know how good the cuttings are when you aren't growing your own stuff, cactus potency can really vary and this is especially the case with young cacti




2-4 hours doesn't sound long enough I imagine you are using too much heat if it actually gets down to a drinkable amount in that time.


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Re: Where to get good cacti [Re: Ulyssies]
    #23721693 - 10/09/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I prefer to dry, then do an alcohol extraction. No drinking nasty shit. Limited nausea. Get the goods. I do 4 pulls with 90% iso then one pull with water+lemon juice boiled for an hour or two then pour it all together and evap at room temp. Takes a while but the product is excellent. Full spectrum fun and it kicks in pretty fast, feeling peripherals at 1 hours, tripping hard by 3 or 4.


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Re: Where to get good cacti [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #23722849 - 10/09/16 04:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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P.Zappatecorum said:
I prefer to dry, then do an alcohol extraction. No drinking nasty shit. Limited nausea. Get the goods. I do 4 pulls with 90% iso then one pull with water+lemon juice boiled for an hour or two then pour it all together and evap at room temp. Takes a while but the product is excellent. Full spectrum fun and it kicks in pretty fast, feeling peripherals at 1 hours, tripping hard by 3 or 4.




Can you shed a little more light on this method?  Looking for the full recipe.  I tried to make some tea a couple weeks ago and it was a bust.

I've got another batch on this stove as I type this.  This time I'm going to try House's Tek and I am hoping for some resin as the final product.


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Re: Where to get good cacti [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #23723000 - 10/09/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

This is what I do. I use everclear which is 190 proof and follow this tek

http://www.hipforums.com/forum/topic/319770-alcohol-extract-for-mescaline-cacti-made-easy/


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Re: Where to get good cacti [Re: Ifishhigh]
    #23723329 - 10/09/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Where to get good cacti [Re: Ifishhigh]
    #23723374 - 10/09/16 07:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Ifishhigh said:
This is what I do. I use everclear which is 190 proof and follow this tek

http://www.hipforums.com/forum/topic/319770-alcohol-extract-for-mescaline-cacti-made-easy/





Many thanks!

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Re: Where to get good cacti [Re: Ifishhigh]
    #23723482 - 10/09/16 08:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Ifishhigh said:
This is what I do. I use everclear which is 190 proof and follow this tek

http://www.hipforums.com/forum/topic/319770-alcohol-extract-for-mescaline-cacti-made-easy/




Do you know how to made trie powder?  Would I just left the cactus dry out completely then put in a blender or coffee grinder?  Or would I need to discard some of the cactus before making powder? 

I've tried finding this online before but again, no luck.


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Re: Where to get good cacti [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #23723615 - 10/09/16 08:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I never dried fresh cactus. I have bought dried chips and ground in coffe grinder. If u have fresh I think u would remove skin. Than cut into discs. Than remove core. And than put in food dehydrator. Again I have never done that though


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Re: Where to get good cacti [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #23723946 - 10/09/16 10:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Drying the cactus is kinda hard, they are designed to hold water in high heat. You need a dehydrator. I cut them into thin strips and score the flesh as much as possible so there's maximum surface area and put the dehydrator on 130 degrees. Powderize in a a coffee grinder.


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Re: Where to get good cacti [Re: Ifishhigh]
    #23724026 - 10/09/16 11:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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If u have fresh I think u would remove skin. Than cut into discs. Than remove core. And than put in food dehydrator. Again I have never done that though




Don't remove skin, the most active alkaloids are in that thin green layer just beneath the skin.

You can just wash your cactus, and cut into star shapes which are thin, you can even use an oven if you don't have a dehydrator, nexus has some good info on there about doing things this way.


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Re: Where to get good cacti [Re: Lucis]
    #23724103 - 10/10/16 12:57 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If you're going to grind it and do an alcohol extraction you don't need to remove anything except maybe the spines and really woody core, the soft core at the tip I just grind up and throw in with everything else. You don't need to remove the waxy outer layer either.:shrug:


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Re: Where to get good cacti [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #23724184 - 10/10/16 03:03 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The waxy outer layer dosent contain any goodies though am I correct?


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Re: Where to get good cacti [Re: Ifishhigh]
    #23724860 - 10/10/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It does not, but it is a pain in the ass to remove and sometimes takes off a bit of the green layer that does contain actives when you're removing it. It is unnecessary to remove if you are doing an alcohol extraction. It will be filtered off later.


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