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Wanting to learn more about cars, but where to start?
    #23718123 - 10/07/16 11:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Had some minor car trouble today and it reminded me just how helpless I would be if/when I have more serious car troubles. Was wanting to acquire some practical car knowledge, figured the good people of the shroomery may guide me better than a google search.

Know any good beginner websites, books, etc? Would love to hear about it. Thanks for reading!


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Re: Wanting to learn more about cars, but where to start? [Re: Psilosopherr] * 1
    #23719920 - 10/08/16 03:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

so where would you draw the line where its getting too complicated for you?
What are you capable of doing yourself?

I like the Haynes Repair Manuals, they explain the symptoms and the process
of diagnosing the actual fault form simplest to most complex.
but it does help if you got some basic knowledge of electronics and practical skills.



When ever I don't know what what means in the book I start reading up
about it. That might be a lot at the beginning, but it's kinda fun for me
too.......otherwise I wouldn't be on this forum :smile:

Like the books so I can read up in bed without looking at a screen
but you can find lots of info for free...........

just one example:

http://manuals.co


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Re: Wanting to learn more about cars, but where to start? [Re: circles]
    #23719990 - 10/08/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I suppose where I'm at is important, some people don't even change their own oil. I've changed my brake pads with the help of a friend, change my oil myself, dialed in the psi of my tires, thats about it so far. My drivers side window shattered on me so that might be a good first project.

I actually think I have that same kind of manual for my car. Makes sense to start there :lol: Just gotta dive in sometimes. thanks for the input


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Re: Wanting to learn more about cars, but where to start? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23721138 - 10/09/16 01:29 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

great you've got this (or a similar) manual, it helps a lot with simple things
like checking leads, spark plugs, cooling system and clutch etc., etc.

got a chapter "door window glass removal and installation" in my book.

I managed to change the brushes on my alternator thanks to the manual,
it was surprisingly easy. Without it I would have gone to a mechanic
.....saved me a few bucks

yeah just dive in sometimes:thumbup:


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Re: Wanting to learn more about cars, but where to start? [Re: circles]
    #23734598 - 10/13/16 03:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

looks like I've got my first project, battery light comes on only when the car is idling, turns off when you give it some gas.

Internet claims its the voltage regulator. Maybe a bad ground, bad connection, corroded connection somewhere in there. Sounds nice and interesting.


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Re: Wanting to learn more about cars, but where to start? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23734611 - 10/13/16 04:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

now that I think about it, maybe something is up with my battery. I've had a couple minor electric problems, car never starts on the first try. I also can't turn it off and then back on right away, it needs to sit off for a bit and...accumulate charge? who knows.

The issue with starting might be caused by the fact that I'm missing the cap to my gas tank, might be having trouble getting pressure but seems like I'm having electrical issues.


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Re: Wanting to learn more about cars, but where to start? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23734868 - 10/13/16 05:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

well the voltage of my battery drops when I turn my car on, seems to indicate the alternator.


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Re: Wanting to learn more about cars, but where to start? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23735300 - 10/13/16 08:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

oh god I hope I don't have to replace the whole alternator, you have to remove an axle which sounds like it may be beyond me at this point.


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Re: Wanting to learn more about cars, but where to start? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23740620 - 10/15/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Voltage droping on the start is normal. Let the car idle and unhook the battery if the car stays running chances are its your battery thats bad.


Edited by 2shoes (10/15/16 06:44 PM)


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Re: Wanting to learn more about cars, but where to start? [Re: 2shoes]
    #23740685 - 10/15/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

this is horrible advice... on some cars the voltage spike from this action will kill an ecu.

dont do this... get a dvom and test..


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Re: Wanting to learn more about cars, but where to start? [Re: rackem]
    #23740753 - 10/15/16 08:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

My advice is based on personal experience and sheer logic. Ive never had an ecu get nuked but sure its possible :shrug:


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Re: Wanting to learn more about cars, but where to start? [Re: 2shoes]
    #23740759 - 10/15/16 08:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

being that i was a professional technician for 10 years, i have seen it.


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Re: Wanting to learn more about cars, but where to start? [Re: rackem]
    #23740764 - 10/15/16 08:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Right. I apologize on the bad advice. I know the ins and outs of a most motors but never was a paid mechanic. As far as electrical and ecu/ecm im lost.


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Re: Wanting to learn more about cars, but where to start? [Re: 2shoes]
    #23740908 - 10/15/16 09:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

aint no thing man...

rblalzer, what kind of car you working with here? you may just have a loose or corroded +/- cable.

with what you are describing i wouldnt just jump right to part replacement.


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Re: Wanting to learn more about cars, but where to start? [Re: rackem]
    #23740960 - 10/15/16 10:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

its a honda accord. '87 if I remember right.

I really appreciate the feedback guys :grin:


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Re: Wanting to learn more about cars, but where to start? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23740999 - 10/15/16 10:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

pop that hood open and wiggle the battery terminals.. look for green stuff (corrosion) at the connections and down the cable... also, chase the negative cable to the body and make sure that is tight as well.


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Re: Wanting to learn more about cars, but where to start? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23741005 - 10/15/16 10:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Doctoring vehicles is alot of troubleshooting to figure out a good diagnosis and getting a somewhat memorizing symptoms to most common issues. As long as its nothing inside the engine or tranny most things to keep a car going you can do in your garage with a little monkeying and sometimes contorting.

Its crazy how many people junk cars for dumb things like 30$ waterpump or alternators. Or pay some guy 300$ to change 30$ parts. Take full advantage of junkyard, parts stores, and having an older vehicle they are certainly easier to work on yourself.

As far as learning goes its best to learn from experience and others car experiences because trying to learn simply by reading a manual dont work quite like textbooks. Dont get me wrong they help specially if you have a certain part that needs changed it can give a walkthrough with pics, also keep in mind theres alot on youtube.


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Re: Wanting to learn more about cars, but where to start? [Re: rackem]
    #23741013 - 10/15/16 10:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'm fearful of touching the battery. Whats the rule, just don't complete the circuit by touching both positive and negative?


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Re: Wanting to learn more about cars, but where to start? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23741024 - 10/15/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, dont touch them both with a metal object, like a socket wrench, or a wrench or something of the sort.  you can safely put your hand on the terminal and check the connections by hand. just twist them and see if they spin at all.


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Re: Wanting to learn more about cars, but where to start? [Re: rackem]
    #23741064 - 10/15/16 10:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

thanks, good to finally know that. I'm right in the middle of this storm on the west coast so I'm going to wait a day or two :shitstorm:


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