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    #23717698 - 10/07/16 08:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

This is a very serious matter to many, that causes a lot of suicides and very severe anxiety, so please do not be bashful towards anyone who this post is directed to.

If you do not know that you are a fallen angel, then you are not one, those who know that they are, know that they are. We find God, and are met with the duty of living without sin, or facing the consequences of what we perceive as going to hell. I've experienced this fall from God's Grace, and felt the conscious creation of virtual fire on my body, like a sunburn that is still being burned, with the mental torment of having no way out and being doomed for ever and ever. Suicidal tendencies tend to unfold in this state, and it can be a non stop virtue. This "fallen angel" concept, seems so real, and they make up the Illuminati and Satan's army to do evil, but this is the only life we have, and that virtual fire sensation and mental torment IS hell, but we are only there until we feel we no longer deserve is. The bible states the condition of the dead as not knowing anything, ans that is the truth. When we are dead we are dead for good, there is no judgement after death.

I understand what we may go through to redeem ourselves, and convince ourselves its not true, and hating when a Christian person cries out on a video saying hell is real and to repent, and believing that because the bible says it so confidently that it is the truth, over and over, when it is false, and it is a weapon so make genocide easier for the elite, who have existed for a very long time and have continued to perfect and elude the world based on critical aspects of the human psyche. If we all knew we were mortal and would understand it in full instead of just sitting on the thought until the say death comes, then we would appreciate our lives much more and wouldnt bow so easily. To tell us that we go to a better place after death convinces us to die for jesus, and there so much intention behind this movement that its difficult to get a hunch that maybe the deception is bigger than we think. Let god remain a part of us, giving us wisdom and understanding, and not let evil persuade us to begin to hate what we truly love, and let the light back in. The matrix is real, the world around "you" as in you reading this, IS you. There is no we, there is only (I). Division is the illusion, all is one system when (I) understand this (I) will begin to see what things are our of place and where we fall into place. The universe does have order, and the evil is what has it out of order right now, and by understanding the all-one, it is known what changes need to be made at what specific times. Not by charts and research, but by observing and reacting on impulsive instinct to create positive changes, based on the slight disorder that (i) see in (my) immediate or even distant surroundings. (Touch, on Netflix reflects on this).  Be one with the (I) and (I) will show you the matrix. There is no we, and this division has shattered the system into a million pieces, it is up to those of (us) that are aware, who can read the intentions written on faces, and know the order of the universe to put it back in place. The self is nothing if it is not giving back. Love does make the world go around. This knowledge, will present to the human body the importance of doing good to others. It is because (I) am one system, and (I) am self destructing. The fallen will save humanity, and God has blessed us with the greatest achievement this life has to offer- the key to the universe.


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Re: fallen angels [Re: bigdoodie]
    #23717958 - 10/07/16 10:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: fallen angels [Re: bigdoodie]
    #23719885 - 10/08/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

it's not fruitful to literalize myth. I see most if not all the evils in the world paste and present coming from literalizing what is really metaphor.

So for example, in mythology gods are really personifications of psychoactive fungi and other psychoactive plants (checkout John Allegro's The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross, and Mike Crowley). To know/dig that cuts out all the crap. You go literally to the root---which is the actuality of you going and picking a vegetation. You are not drowning in words and stories. there is a real live food. by saying this I dont mean you believe what they believed. But you see and feel and eat the SOURCE. Even deeper than etymology---which is also important. To find roots of words and meanings

Now the ancients did not know about fungi spores, and believed mushrooms (we are talking psychoactive because these had the biggest impact on their psyche). They thus assumed they descended from above, especially after thunderstorms! This comes the concept of the 'fallen angel' ~ from Greek angelos "messenger". IE they would consult these mushrooms like you hear other people who use these fungi and plants do, like shamans etc

Now there is distinction between the concept that the fungi are gods or Gods and fallen angels. A different interpretation. For the believer who believes the mushrooms is Jesus Christ/God it is not a 'fallen' angel. The concept OF fallen angels actually derives from Christianity. Rather the fallen angels would be their Satan/Lucifer, also personifications of psychoactive fungi.

These mindsets are dualistic and separate goody goody angels from completely evil demons. And this mindset is shared both by the Christian mindset and the Satanist mindset. The latter would gladly call them fallen angels

A much more ancient and radical and nondualistic understanding of magic fungi comes from Goddess mythos. In this mythos it doesn't matter spores cannot be seen. Shrooms like all vegetation springs from Mother Earth, and the taking of them is not so much to hear 'messages', like 'channeling' from some gods/Gods from above, but rather bodymind immersion into the sacred mysteries of nature.


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Re: fallen angels [Re: zzripz] * 1
    #23720127 - 10/08/16 05:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

oh my gooooood zzripz just had to destroy an already perfect thread with his stupid feminazi mother earth bull shit.

I don't understand why people keep thinking shrooms  are some forbidden fruit bs.

God made all the seeds, trees, plants of Eden to be utilized by us. It's not even forbidden!!!!

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29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.





The tree of life and the tree of knowledge of good and evil represent this:

The tree of life represents YHWH's instructions. He only wants what's good for us. He gives us everything we could ever wish to have if we listen to our "FATHER" the creator of EVERYTHING. This includes shrooms, weed, aya, whatever else you can think of!

As soon as we disobey and get greedy. You understand? GREED. Adam and Eve already had EVERYTHING but they wanted more. They wanted to be their own Gods. They didn't trust YHWH and had to see for themselves what would happen.

The penalty for knowing what happens after eating the forbidden fruit is getting thrown out of Eden, A paradise on earth. Get it? Adam ended up having to work like a dog his whole life and Eve's childbirth now hurts like a bitch a woman get periods because of disobedience.  So you got to ask yourself, is it really worth it to know evil? THere was only good but now you know both good and evil. Big whoop, too bad the penalty is to die a little, and every time you sin, a little more.... Until your life is just a big joke beyond repentance. That's what it means to "surely die".


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Re: fallen angels [Re: Man Cub]
    #23720143 - 10/08/16 05:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

We get further and further from the garden of eden and the tree of life everytime we eat the forbidden fruit and sin.

Take a look at the world around you and you'll find that we are from from Eden. A self sustaining garden which had unlimited natural resources.

We were put here to tend to the animals and the garden. But the government elitist and whatnot dont want that. They want to enslave and hide the truth that is God.

They don't want you to know the truth, they don't want you to be self sustaining, they don't want you to smoke weed, eat shrooms, do dmt, none of that, they don't want you to be happy. They want you enslaved. Keep you doped on orgies, sports, and fruitless endeavors. They've turned everything good into "forbidden". This is probably where you guys get the confusion from. They lie to you and call it "good".

If we want to release the shackles that bind we have to find the truth and stop imprisoning ourselves with ignorance.


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Re: fallen angels [Re: Man Cub]
    #23720351 - 10/08/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

why do you say when we are dead we are dead for good? What about all those NDEs where people have crazy experiences and what about reincarnation?


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Re: fallen angels [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23720495 - 10/08/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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By the sweat of your face You will eat bread, Till you return to the ground, Because from it you were taken; For you are dust, And to dust you shall return."




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then the dust will return to the earth as it was, and the spirit will return to God who gave it.




My theory on reincarnation is that if God likes you and thinks you deserve another chance to make it right then he'll send you back into the womb in a later period of history. Even if he does that, you will have no recollection of your past lives. You will be born in an era you're not familiar with. So in a sense, when we create hell on earth, trashing it, thinking that "oh well, I'm gunna die anyways. Sucks for the next generation." We are actually dooming ourselves since reincarnation is a possibility. We enter into the world we create whether it's past, present, future. History literally repeats itself going through stages of heaven and hell and vice versa. Kingdoms rise and fall. The prophecy of the Messiah is that he will restore peace unto the land forever until the end of time.


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http://www.patheos.com/blogs/dispatches/2016/04/12/barton-disney-is-making-kids-worship-pagan-gods/


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Re: fallen angels [Re: Man Cub]
    #23720898 - 10/08/16 10:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Just for clarity I am not saying we should all turn our back on God the "supreme reality" (not a being). Once we find the spirit, the light turns on in us and we see our true alien nature, and the sins are what make us Human, so if we sin, we go from alien back to human, and the light permanently dims, and at that point we "fall from heaven". Then the torment comes and it is severe, and many people who experience this, I am without doubt, will commit suicide. Anyone who finds the spirit should live in the spirit, it is the most satisfying achievement, but anyone who chooses to sin should not spend their lives tormenting themselves with the fear of going to hell, because there is no factual evidence.


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Re: fallen angels [Re: Man Cub]
    #23721384 - 10/09/16 07:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I am surely dead. But I will be resurrected through the gifts God gave me.

Willpower
Skill
Passion
Honor
Respect


I am fit for command. I'm your guy. Whoever you are I'm your guy.

Edit,

I once asked a Muslim man about Djinn. It was one of the very first things I asked him. In hindsight I can tell he wanted to tell me "I'm talking to one right now...", but he was nice and divulged his beliefs for me without any filter of opinion. Very nice man.

Anyways, he told me there's all kinds of Djinn. More or less you can be super good, super evil, or somewhere in between.

This creation we have, as also said in Mahayana, is a big field of activity where all can prosper based on their ability. There was a system going that wanted to annihilate the ability based society, but certain individuals have assumed their form and have met the challenge of our enemy. All we must do now is simply love our enemy.

Also, the enemy of my enemy IS my friend...

Peace is our birthright and we will fight for it, tooth and nail.

If I could give any order right now it would be "no quarter". Unchain your inhibitions and let your ability flow like the elements. Know your element. I am air.

Well, hmm.
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Under the modern laws of war, "....it is especially forbidden....to declare that no quarter will be given".




Disregard that. I suck cocks.


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Re: fallen angels [Re: Man Cub] * 1
    #23722200 - 10/09/16 01:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Man Cub said:

We get further and further from the garden of eden and the tree of life everytime we eat the forbidden fruit and sin.





Don't many people think the story of Adam and Eve reveals the suffering caused by dualism?

That by succumbing to the temptation of labeling everything "good" or "bad" we enter the gates of hell


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Re: fallen angels [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23722358 - 10/09/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

OP, people are people, and angels are angels. And truth is stranger than fiction sometimes. A lot of our ancient myths are completely accurate historical records. Fallen angels are completely real.

If you've got some spare time and want your mind blown watch this video, its about the Nephilim.



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Re: fallen angels [Re: Man Cub]
    #23724301 - 10/10/16 05:49 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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oh my gooooood zzripz just had to destroy an already perfect thread with his stupid feminazi mother earth bull shit.




hmmm I see.

Did you know this is a no flame zone and you just flamed me? And seem to have got away with it?

Did you also know that IF any post disturb you so much there exists an ignore button you can click on so you don't have to see the post?

I now am gonna use it against your nasty flaming rants.

On one hand putting down what you rudely call my 'stupid feminazi mother earth bull shit' and next sentence, and rest of posts, pushing your patriarchal dualistic BS myth.

bye bye and good riddance


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Re: fallen angels [Re: zzripz]
    #23724305 - 10/10/16 05:57 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

i just find it sadly amusing that people frequenting the 'SHROOMERY' hint hint, and supposedly experienced,  are not hip to the available knowledge that 'fallen angels' are really referring to psychoactive mushrooms, and is not meant to be taken LITERALLY except by the gullibgle who buy all the other literalized BS

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Re: fallen angels [Re: zzripz]
    #23724393 - 10/10/16 07:59 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You haven't met enough people.


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    #23724519 - 10/10/16 09:02 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

how dya know?


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Re: fallen angels [Re: Ellis Dee] * 1
    #23725210 - 10/10/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

We shouldnt take anyones word for granted. the fallen angels are those who actually find God, which is very few, and see that God is not a being but the supreme reality, and understands ego and how sin fuels the ego and changes us from the alien thst we are into what we perceive as humans. At the point of finding God we see how magnificent we are and become full of light and only at that point can we experience 100% conscious awareness without any thoughts, and to commit a sin we have to have an opinion, and if we act on it, the light dims permanently and God will start to drift away. Where God says "depart from me ye wicked", because after the sin we think its all good and we can repent but our sincerity will forever keep us distant from God because we chose to sin instead of accept a 100% peaceful thoughtless existence. that's who the fallen angels are; people who are closest to God who then commit a sin. In the bible it says that hell was made for Satan and the fallen angels. Because its only when we find god that we can be permanently kicked out of God's grace, but there's no afterlife, our memories die with the brain.


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Re: fallen angels [Re: bigdoodie]
    #23725405 - 10/10/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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We shouldnt take anyones word for granted. the fallen angels are those who actually find God, which is very few, and see that God is not a being but the supreme reality, and understands ego and how sin fuels the ego and changes us from the alien thst we are into what we perceive as humans. At the point of finding God we see how magnificent we are and become full of light and only at that point can we experience 100% conscious awareness without any thoughts, and to commit a sin we have to have an opinion, and if we act on it, the light dims permanently and God will start to drift away. Where God says "depart from me ye wicked", because after the sin we think its all good and we can repent but our sincerity will forever keep us distant from God because we chose to sin instead of accept a 100% peaceful thoughtless existence. that's who the fallen angels are; people who are closest to God who then commit a sin. In the bible it says that hell was made for Satan and the fallen angels. Because its only when we find god that we can be permanently kicked out of God's grace, but there's no afterlife, our memories die with the brain.




I've taken issue with much of this. That sin is somehow good. That seems even more extreme than moral relativism. Look at the nature of sin, of man's inhumanity toward man, of war and violence, of genocide, or of rape and pedophilia. Whereas God is LOVE and His law in completeness is to do unto others as you'd have them do unto you and love your neighbor as yourself. What a contrast! Death and sin versus the light and love of Jesus Christ in your eyes. Oh He does love you brother! So much that he laid down His life to redeem us! And there is life after death! We are not merely this crude stuff of blood and bone, that's just our vessel. Your true self is the ghost in the machine.


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Re: fallen angels [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #23726803 - 10/10/16 09:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

There is no life after death. Bill bye, Stephen Hawking, Neil degrasse Tyson, and I'm sure many other reputable people will say the same thing. It is science fiction to believe that our memories can live on without a functioning brain.

The fear of hell and hope of an afterlife is an essential tool that the Illuminati is using to bring in the new world order. If we knew we were mortal we would appreciate our lives much more and do more to protect it. It should be no surprise that there are lies in the bible- the old testament doesn't even mention an afterlife, the Vatican added it later on, along with a fancy strip of gold paint, because people like shiny things. There is no "glorious light", but maybe for a couple of seconds while the DMT enters the pineal gland, but in that moment there is so much epiphany that we don't even care about death, we just accept it because we understand that it really doesn't matter. The way I see it, we are eternal by the word "we". The individual will die but the occupants of the universe will remain forever and ever, when we get rid of our individuality we no longer care of what happens to ourself, and that's the most fulfilling thing there is. Really, eternal death and reincarnation are one in the same, because we are all the same person


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    #23726879 - 10/10/16 10:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Bill Nye, Stephen Hawking, Neil degrasse Tyson however smart they might be, however high their IQs are, are wrong about this. How can anyone look around and see a world and things and think that it came from nothing? Its hubris, pure hubris to think that because you figured out a little about how something works that you know more than the creator of that thing. We are created. The world and our solar system and our galaxy are all creations of this divine architect I call God. Its self evident.


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Re: fallen angels [Re: bigdoodie]
    #23727234 - 10/11/16 12:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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There is no life after death. Bill bye, Stephen Hawking, Neil degrasse Tyson, and I'm sure many other reputable people will say the same thing. It is science fiction to believe that our memories can live on without a functioning brain.

The fear of hell and hope of an afterlife is an essential tool that the Illuminati is using to bring in the new world order. If we knew we were mortal we would appreciate our lives much more and do more to protect it. It should be no surprise that there are lies in the bible- the old testament doesn't even mention an afterlife, the Vatican added it later on, along with a fancy strip of gold paint, because people like shiny things. There is no "glorious light", but maybe for a couple of seconds while the DMT enters the pineal gland, but in that moment there is so much epiphany that we don't even care about death, we just accept it because we understand that it really doesn't matter. The way I see it, we are eternal by the word "we". The individual will die but the occupants of the universe will remain forever and ever, when we get rid of our individuality we no longer care of what happens to ourself, and that's the most fulfilling thing there is. Really, eternal death and reincarnation are one in the same, because we are all the same person




People who have had NDEs will tell you otherwise, look at Dr. Eben Alexander's NDE. His brain function was so low that science would say there is no way he could have had any cognition of anything yet he had the most vivid NDE.

You are also wrong about the Old  Testament not referencing an afterlife.


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    #23727323 - 10/11/16 02:07 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

DMT seeps into the pineal gland near death to comfort us, that's all.


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    #23728073 - 10/11/16 11:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Why do we need comforting if we're dead? Why not just shut off?

And you recently posted

{quote], I am the system and there is no self, (I) am one system and there is nothing outside of (me), but if there is no afterlife then there is no point in anything at all, we're just building and building for the





If you are the system, which I agree with then why would you conclude the system disappears when the body drops? The body is merely one small part of this grand system, it was created by the system to inhabit for a time as a vehicle for certain experiences. The system isn't going to vanish when it dies. Where did you get this idea?


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    #23728922 - 10/11/16 05:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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    #23730122 - 10/12/16 01:56 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Because nobody wants to fathom the idea of not existing.
The universe will always exist, just not to dead people.


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    #23730177 - 10/12/16 03:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

bigdoodie is just one of those Taoist necromancers... don't worry about him :watchingyou:


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Re: fallen angels [Re: yeah]
    #23730427 - 10/12/16 08:05 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I made this the other night when I was pretty high...
I go on for almost an hour just rambling anything that comes to mind.
I feel this is relevant to the thread.
I'm going through some serious shit concerning the reality of hell and christianity.  Are we angels??
Give it a listen if you like.
Don't be too hard on me please but let me know what you think about anything mentioned.
I'll answer questions if you like.

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Re: fallen angels [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #23730595 - 10/12/16 09:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

i watched a bit, and stopped where you said the church dont want you to have an earth-based pagan experience where you ecstatically bond with nature

I completely agree, and neither does the Mosque or the Synagogue. And Eastern beliefs, including Zen, also warn about nature being a trap

Running through all these belief systems including the secular materialistic myth is this fear of nature, disrespect for nature, and a wanting to either escape from it for ever and ever or 'put it right' as in for example 'conquering death, disease, animals attacking and eating other animals, darkness/night, being upset/tears.

In all of this connected similar goals between these seemingly different belief systems and paradigms gives up a BIG clue as to how they all derive from the same roots. The solar myths.

The other day I was watching this very interesting documentary on TV about the history of Hip Hop, and this guy said there is this religious branch of it which believes men are the sun and women the earth. And right THERE we can see this solar mythic motif shared by all the other beliefs. The idea that men represent the sun/light/'spirit'/life which is believed to be superior, and women represent the earth/nature/darkness/death believed by that mindset to be inferior.

This would explain how a lot of Hip Hop is misogynist, homophobic, and materialistic, aggressive and violent. But am just mentioning to show how this solar myth keeeps popping up this way and that through time.

we have got to wake UP and see this because its factions through time are all contributing to the very destruction of the natural world!

SEE it!

I am currently watching this very powerful video:



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Re: fallen angels [Re: zzripz]
    #23730672 - 10/12/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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stopped where you said the church dont want you to have an earth-based pagan experience where you ecstatically bond with nature




Just started the vid.  I actually played both of them at the same time on accident and the music and war stuff creeped me out a little...  This experience has always had a mind control/military/CIA/lucifer element that is hard to put into words (?) Its a population/many that care and are more, LOUD, than those that say the represent the churches and Jesus or otherwise Baphomet.  Its torture.  Submission in the name of some Etheric authority.  Boo.  Peace.


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Re: fallen angels [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #23731057 - 10/12/16 11:59 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

i have been thinking it is like the strict father causes the rebel son scenario

this was played out in the life of the prophet of the ruling class occultists, Aleister Crowley. he was brought up in this joyless miserable strict christian family, and then he later rebels and wants to become chief in command to 'Satan'. Ie the strictness caused him to go over the side they fear

BOTH sides are control freaks powermongers which feed off each other


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Re: fallen angels [Re: zzripz] * 1
    #23731111 - 10/12/16 12:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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BOTH sides are control freaks powermongers which feed off each other





Wrong. The spiritual war being waged on this Earth has two sides. When you say that you shill for their side.


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Re: fallen angels [Re: zzripz]
    #23731569 - 10/12/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Wars are fought through willing participants.

Do you believe that the masculine and feminine maintain equal capability to do good and bad? (yes or no)

If you disagree with the framing, remove (to do good and bad).

If no, per your presented beliefs, you're a misogynist who believes the feminine to be inferior.

If yes, then you admit that your presented narrative of the masculine suppressing the feminine is false. They are equal and thus one cannot suppress the other.

Zzripz, I'd welcome you any day of the week to detail without contradicting yourself how your theories have grounding. To do so, you must maintain them across open critique. However, contradictions are abound in your beliefs .. There is a blaring one at the core of it which I have detailed above.

Quit chasing echos and focus on the primary sound. You're not a woman/female so stop arrogantly proposing that you can speak for them. That's misogynistic.

Females/Feminine know most of all about their potentials. Why do you think it is that they remain guarded about them? You are unknowing of a woman's power and works in the world because they ensure they remain hidden and thus effective.

It is through their womb that life is birthed. They have a powerful capability to manipulate seeds before their are sown. Men are specialized in applying force to sown seeds. Women can weave incredible tales that warp perception/potential. As your reality is based on 'perception, the feminine/females maintain an incredible force in this world. Their innate capabilities are used for good/bad just as men use their capabilities for good/bad. Both men/women's capabilities are equal but different.

Arguing against the above basis highlights one's own deep seated misogyny and agenda. Acknowledging the above removes one from twisted beliefs that the masculine has ever dominated the feminine. It never has for the masculine/feminine are equal.

Belief systems can be created by the feminine/females. There is nothing that prevents them from doing so. Do they withstand the forces of nature?

People willfully subscribe to belief systems. Belief systems that have stood the test of time have concrete truths which withstand the test of time.

Create a thread and demonstrate that your beliefs can withstand open critique.
As shown above, you're already on one wounded knee.


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Re: fallen angels [Re: bigdoodie]
    #23731582 - 10/12/16 03:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

OP, what are your thoughts on my post :
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23717958#23717958 ?

It wasn't posted for giggles and backdrop. Given your beliefs, It should have meaning and speak to you as the world often does.

You have to learn how to close your eyes, listen to it, and receive its meaning.


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    #23731585 - 10/12/16 03:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

stop changing the subject


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    #23731630 - 10/12/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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stop changing the subject




Stop presenting your false misogynistic views and projecting it as such on others.
The subject is what I'm clearly focusing on here as opposed to your attempt to pit the masculine against the feminine. Nobody buys that nonsense, least of all, you..

So cut the charade. It's tired, played out, and quite frankly, women possess the capability to see right through it. Maybe you have some gullible men fooled and misled into a guilt trip but you have no woman fooled on this earth with that nonsense.

You're not nearly as slick and polished as the females you praise... So, unless you have some supports for your beliefs...
:friendlyfuckyou: off with the bullshit.

The topic here is fallen angels not zzripz's continuous diversions about the masculine and feminine. So..
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stop changing the subject




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    #23731797 - 10/12/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I get the feeling I have already ignored you and this is another rather nasty manifestation of your fascistic presence?

I do not like in any way shape of form the disrespectful way you are talking to me, and so I will ignore you again now, and any time you pop up.

Really you are flaming and should be warned!

I have been banned for far less than that attitude.

I luuuurve the ignore button that gets rid of people like you from my perception :what2:

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    #23732079 - 10/12/16 06:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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i have been thinking it is like the strict father causes the rebel son scenario

this was played out in the life of the prophet of the ruling class occultists, Aleister Crowley. he was brought up in this joyless miserable strict christian family, and then he later rebels and wants to become chief in command to 'Satan'. Ie the strictness caused him to go over the side they fear

BOTH sides are control freaks powermongers which feed off each other




I'm going through like a representation of what claims to be the divine...  Etherians.  That are without the neurochemical counterpart that demonstrates what that (divine) is for the Entheogen/psychedelic user...!!  The nature based manufacturers of the chemicals that produce the experiences of what people claim is God/G*d and its powerful WAY of putting you in contact with what can take the place of demons and angels, TRULY.  They exclaim that, 'You were just high.  Its just a drug trip.  Its Satan's trick to lure you in.'  They are serious.  Where, they fulfill the part of a weird unfolding drama as truly the devil.  EVERYTHING NEGATIVE CLAIMING ITS GOD.  They are domestic terrorism causing Permanent Schizophrenia in the event of spiritual emergency, not death/rebirth and conclusion/closure but constant crisis to cause breaks and breakdowns of a psychological nature upon awakening.  They rape you to drain you of everything and shatter your mind.  They want you to do what you are told like a slave.  This is their attempt to demonstrate their God.  My God is Intelligence they are ignorance and arrogance.  My God is Love.  They destroy love and channel it out of the body so you can't feel your own and run off your body like a battery in the matrix.  They take what ever they can get in their attempt to regulate the entire personality and even motor function, the flow of consciousness, and individual human free will.  My God is grace.  They are annoying on purpose, crass, and disgusting.  My psilocybe and amanita have a historic significance in bringing mankind closer to the God within that he is...  My God is sacred.  My God is within.  They violate the body by penetrating the anus.  They are a control system imposed on people that conflict with their agenda and outside seemingly but operated from the inside by way of implants and external hallucinations trying to use christ consciousness or cosmic consciousness and mushroom experience for themselves by subversive means.  My God is a source.  They are a parasite that does little than take and take and take from my consciousness and energy system, Brain/mind/body.  They disregard the stone, rock, faith...  The small round thing or small round stone.  I've eaten and I believe.  I'd be a martyr.


People that don't get the Goddess thing haven't listened to enough Terrence Mckenna.  LOL.  They all should read Archaic Revival IMO.


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Re: fallen angels [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #23732328 - 10/12/16 08:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

At the end of the day, you make your own choices and have your own free-will.
No one forces you to maintain or subscribe to their beliefs or doctrines. No one can imprison your mind but you as you are the stewart of it.

Life serves as an opportunity for you to witness that which is beyond you.
How you do so is up to you.  Interestingly, you learn and grow the the most from your failures and set backs :  From maintaining a view point and being proven wrong..

Objective 'God' is without form or gender. However, it is not a surprise that human beings lacking this conceptualization attempt to reason about it in terms of the masculine and feminine.

You can trip on shrooms and do as much drugs as you want.
The Universe will still be governed by the same laws and constructs.

Nature is nature. As for mushrooms, it'd help if people understood their nature :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fungus
Do a search for male or female on this page. Notice there are no references. Note also how they reproduce :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fungus#Reproduction

There is no basis for attributing the masculine and feminine with mushrooms. They transcend it as do many 'higher' forms.

A mindset that focuses on a world divided is a lessor mind.
Enlightenment is not reserved for the psychedelic user. It is reserved for those who chose to be enlightened. This involves letting go of one's personal views and embracing the objective view that transcends.

No gender has a monopoly on the present state of the world. This has been the case for all of history. Does one seek to maintain a view that transcends it or does one allow themselves to be restricted to narrow, halved, opposing, and destructive viewpoints?

A lot of people are lost in this world because they fail to accept it for what it is.. So, they busy themselves thinking they can mend it... Busy themselves trying to find those who 'broke' it. They busy themselves looking for the first cause. They blame the masculine. Ignore the role of the feminine. They point fingers in this direction and in that very act miss out on other important details in that direction... They run around highlighting everything but themselves who is most central to the plot..

The infinite is all around you and resides in you. It's up to you as to whether or not you come to 'see' and 'understand that'. The infinite is without form. Prejudice. Gender.


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    #23732361 - 10/12/16 08:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Because nobody wants to fathom the idea of not existing.




Not true, why do you think people commit suicide? Personally I wouldn't mind not existing at all, I just don't think it's feasible. Killing the body won't destroy your spirit. This life is like a dream which our spirit enters into from the eternal realms.


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The universe will always exist, just not to dead people.




There is no universe apart from the perception of it. I have no more reason to believe the universe will exist without me, then I have to believe that the tree I dreamed about last night continues to exist when my dream is over.


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Re: fallen angels [Re: phio]
    #23732368 - 10/12/16 08:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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OP, what are your thoughts on my post :
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23717958#23717958 ?

It wasn't posted for giggles and backdrop. Given your beliefs, It should have meaning and speak to you as the world often does.

You have to learn how to close your eyes, listen to it, and receive its meaning.




Capping my commentary, so I'll wrap this up. Be careful of what you perceive your role in this all as to be. A broken world can never be mended. Flames can never be doused completely. Will you beat your wrings till you burn them black?

The Moth & The Flame - Les Deux Love Orchestra


The moth don't care when he sees the flame
He might get burned, but he's in the game
And once he's in, he can't go back
He'll beat his wings till he burns them black

No, the moth don't care when he sees the flame

No, the moth don't care when he sees the flame

No, the moth don't care if the flame is real


The moth don't care if the flame is real
'Cause flame and moth got a sweetheart deal

And nothing fuels a good flirtation
Like need and anger and desperation


No, the moth don't care if the flame is real

No, the moth don't care if the flame is real

So come on, let's go, ready or not
'Cause there's a flame I know, hotter than hot
And with a fuse that's so thoroughly shot,

(Away)

The moth don't care if the flame burns low
'Cause moth believes in an afterglow
And flames are never doused completely
All you really need is the love of heat

No, the moth don't care if the flame burns low




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Re: fallen angels [Re: phio]
    #23733119 - 10/13/16 04:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Do a search for male or female on this page.




THE POINT ABOUT GENDER IS THAT THEY ARE PHALLIC, ONE BREAST, AND A PHALLUS PENETRATING A VAGINA THUS MALE, FEMALE, AND HERMAPHRODITIC.

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The infinite is all around you and resides in you. It's up to you as to whether or not you come to 'see' and 'understand that'. The infinite is without form. Prejudice. Gender.




Sounds romantic.  What of intelligences that claim they are God?  You say the infinite is objective God but that hasn't been established as any real factual knowledge has it?


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    #23734391 - 10/13/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Hi... I read a little on this site. Some good info but still mixed with so many half truths and lies. Let me introduce myself here.... first: you humans have called beings like us many things, God's, angels, fallen angels, immortals..... I have had my awakening. I know exactly who and what i am, where I come from. I come from Atlantis and before! There have been MANY, MANY, MANY civilizations lost to (what you perceive as) time.

Let me star start off with this fun fact!!! There are more than thirteen illuminated bloodlines. Many more. The 13 that are in positions of power right now are just the small group of us that either remembered who were really were before the others. This group of 13 are hiding your real history from you while causing wars, lying about everything and basically using you as slaves. I have been running around this little country of ours trying to spread the truth about all of this. I have visited some of the ancient sacred sites here in the USA. There are so many here, lying in almost plans site and no a single soul notices. Denver and surrounding areas, places in the South in TN, Utah, Ohio, Nevada and California! So much to see and talk about. The crystal forest (not petrified forest like they like to claim) where to start?

Let me just end here, if anyone is interested in who I am and what i I have to say I'll come back and post again if I have not been killed. See... they knew I would wake sooner or later and would need to be dealt with. Until now they really have not been able to do much to stop me other than toss me in jail for 2 weeks and lock up my kids. I have been running around tell anyone and everyone who will listen what's coming next. What some of these secret society's are up too. I am followed every day, wherever I go. Let me just warn you in advance, if you participate in any conversations with me I can almost promise you will be watched and looked into yourself.

If there are any more of you out here that are awake, I would love to hear from you asap! Peace!


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Re: fallen angels [Re: Me399]
    #23734563 - 10/13/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)


What do you know about mind control by etheric beings inside the body...??


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    #23734949 - 10/13/16 06:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

This vid has some relevance to the thread.
There is some info to support my claims and back up what has been said about mushrooms and God/the divine/the infinite.


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    #23735939 - 10/14/16 02:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Phio,

I like how you slut shamed zzripz :lol:. He has me on ignore too so he won't see any of this. But yeah that guy idolizes bitches (women are a different story, women are kool) because well... Let me shoot you a quote from him:

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I personally can not ever remember choosing. my first memory of erotic feelings for men was when I must have been very young, 4/5 and remember seeing naked tribal Africans in a TV documentary and rubbing my dick against the TV screen. I also would watch war films where you would see 'dead' soldiers and imagine taking their pants down and having a look.
Although I was not brought up religious, the image of it can seep into childrens' psyche. So often I would think Jesus was looking down. When I was about 6/7 and in the privacy of the toilet sometimes I would flash him my erect dick. Offering it  lol




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    #23735947 - 10/14/16 02:39 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Hi... I read a little on this site. Some good info but still mixed with so many half truths and lies. Let me introduce myself here.... first: you humans have called beings like us many things, God's, angels, fallen angels, immortals..... I have had my awakening. I know exactly who and what i am, where I come from. I come from Atlantis and before! There have been MANY, MANY, MANY civilizations lost to (what you perceive as) time.

Let me star start off with this fun fact!!! There are more than thirteen illuminated bloodlines. Many more. The 13 that are in positions of power right now are just the small group of us that either remembered who were really were before the others. This group of 13 are hiding your real history from you while causing wars, lying about everything and basically using you as slaves. I have been running around this little country of ours trying to spread the truth about all of this. I have visited some of the ancient sacred sites here in the USA. There are so many here, lying in almost plans site and no a single soul notices. Denver and surrounding areas, places in the South in TN, Utah, Ohio, Nevada and California! So much to see and talk about. The crystal forest (not petrified forest like they like to claim) where to start?

Let me just end here, if anyone is interested in who I am and what i I have to say I'll come back and post again if I have not been killed. See... they knew I would wake sooner or later and would need to be dealt with. Until now they really have not been able to do much to stop me other than toss me in jail for 2 weeks and lock up my kids. I have been running around tell anyone and everyone who will listen what's coming next. What some of these secret society's are up too. I am followed every day, wherever I go. Let me just warn you in advance, if you participate in any conversations with me I can almost promise you will be watched and looked into yourself.

If there are any more of you out here that are awake, I would love to hear from you asap! Peace!




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    #23736010 - 10/14/16 03:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I made this the other night when I was pretty high...
I go on for almost an hour just rambling anything that comes to mind.
I feel this is relevant to the thread.
I'm going through some serious shit concerning the reality of hell and christianity.  Are we angels??
Give it a listen if you like.
Don't be too hard on me please but let me know what you think about anything mentioned.
I'll answer questions if you like.

Thoughts?








The washington monument, the vatican obelisk, the egyptian obelisk, what do they all have in common? They worship the Nephilims. The sons of god that corrupted mortal women. And we wonder what the fascination is with big this, big that, big dicks... It's all shit thats hammered into your subconscious...

I wouldn't mix christianity/catholicism/luciferianism with the old testament though.... That's where the truth is, imho


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    #23736438 - 10/14/16 09:06 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

am watching the film and it's very interesting but thought i'd pause at this crucial bit approx 5:10 where he talks about spores and claims that it is these 'asexual spores' which gave rise to the idea of virgin birth. I don't think that is correct. The ancients didn't have microscopic technology to even know that. As John Allegro says in his book The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross, they believed that these shrooms just miraculously appeared after thunderstorms, not realizing they had spores/'seeds'

This is crucial to know because this explains the whole myth of the 'fallen angels'. ie 'spiritual beings' which come from above and take flesh in the 'material realm'.

It also explain the Orphic/Gnostic belief that we are 'spirits' which have descended into 'matter'/nature and become trapped

Even the ancient Greek philosophers mostly based their ideas on this myth!

It all stems from this mis-understanding about mushrooms, especially the psychoactive kind 'descending' from above as gods, 'Gods' and/or characters like 'Satan/Lucifer' to teach his intiates secrets so as to have power over others and the natural world.

In the Goddess mythic understanding this wouldn't be a problem because there was no duality between an above and below to begin with, and thus these shrooms were her son/lovers which once eat allowed the celebrant access to her deeper mysteries.


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    #23736767 - 10/14/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I agree that some of the info is just wrong but he touches on a lot of the points that I am trying to make to the Presences that I am being observed by.  It sounds pretty amateur and simplistic but some of it is pretty effective. 


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    #23736814 - 10/14/16 11:16 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Leviticus969 said:
Quote:

FishOilTheKid said:
I made this the other night when I was pretty high...
I go on for almost an hour just rambling anything that comes to mind.
I feel this is relevant to the thread.
I'm going through some serious shit concerning the reality of hell and christianity.  Are we angels??
Give it a listen if you like.
Don't be too hard on me please but let me know what you think about anything mentioned.
I'll answer questions if you like.

Thoughts?








The washington monument, the vatican obelisk, the egyptian obelisk, what do they all have in common? They worship the Nephilims. The sons of god that corrupted mortal women. And we wonder what the fascination is with big this, big that, big dicks... It's all shit thats hammered into your subconscious...

I wouldn't mix christianity/catholicism/luciferianism with the old testament though.... That's where the truth is, imho






Moses display of the Sabbath Day in the Wilderness with the Manna mixes well with eating Jesus flesh and blood if you believe but yes Truth will happen and I'm afraid that Christianity is using what is experienced as Schizophrenia to demonstrate something about their God.  ...Which seems to be literally the Devil/the beast in that they are not human and are more like alien animals that have specific control over people and how they think/behave.  They are after furthering their control with the help of these beings at least in my experience.  They reacted violently to my belief that the Catholic Eucharist and unleavened bread start with the dried cap of the Amanita Muscaria and that the True faith is in Gnosis and communion through nature's chemical keys.


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    #23737290 - 10/14/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Christians believe in the new testament and Jesus christ. I believe in the old. I personally dont believe eating manna is eating Jesus flesh and blood. YHWH from the old testament actually teaches that we are to NOT drink any blood whatsoever of any animal let alone a human.

Christians and Christ claim the exact opposite though. Jesus taught to drink his blood and eat his flesh. It's pretty much in opposition from YHWH himself.

Yes, the elites are using mind control symbolism to program the masses subconsciously. And when you try to call them out on some of their bs they would probably drug you out and claim that you're "seeing things". Most times we can't point out what the truth is but we feel it in our gut somewhere.

I personally don't think bread can be a mushroom. When the Hebrews were eating unleavened bread it was because they had no time to prepare real bread since they were escaping Egypt through the red sea. They were running from the Egyptians and imagine if they were eating shrooms while trying to cross the red sea. Yeah, it'll be a cool experience but they'd need a sober mind to escape from these guys in chariots and such...

I'm not sure what Gnosis is but I believe in the old testament. People seem to worship nature and it's not a bad way of communicating with God as he did create nature AND also talks to us through nature but people seem to like worshiping the creations vs the creator of all those things....


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Re: fallen angels [Re: Leviticus969]
    #23737534 - 10/14/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

No man on God's given earth is in control of another man.
The trick actually centers on falsely presenting that there are those among man who are.

Man can only influence.
Each man's influences is limited by laws beyond their control or reach for those laws are infinite.

Each man bleeds the same blood as the other.
Each man makes choices as to whether or not to accept the influences of another.

No man on God's given earth is capable of Judgement for all of man is limited and without full knowledge from which to do so. No man ultimately knows another's heart nor is aware of what will be their ultimate judgement. Man only partially perceives and that perception is flawed as they see the world through their mind's eye not through the eye that is with infinite reach and understanding. This is why one should only discern and discern carefully (noting their own biases and misgivings) for their judgements are flawed.

God's word is a living word. It is infinite and extends beyond that which is written which is why many of its truths can be witnessed thousands of years after many written works.

The truth doesn't need to be debated. It simply is. Thus, what is most often 'debated' are lies and mistruths.


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Re: fallen angels [Re: Leviticus969]
    #23737539 - 10/14/16 03:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Phio,

I like how you slut shamed zzripz :lol:. He has me on ignore too so he won't see any of this. But yeah that guy idolizes bitches (women are a different story, women are kool) because well... Let me shoot you a quote from him:

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I personally can not ever remember choosing. my first memory of erotic feelings for men was when I must have been very young, 4/5 and remember seeing naked tribal Africans in a TV documentary and rubbing my dick against the TV screen. I also would watch war films where you would see 'dead' soldiers and imagine taking their pants down and having a look.
Although I was not brought up religious, the image of it can seep into childrens' psyche. So often I would think Jesus was looking down. When I was about 6/7 and in the privacy of the toilet sometimes I would flash him my erect dick. Offering it  lol







Gives insight into the origins of that narrative he presents so often.


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    #23746979 - 10/17/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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What do you know about mind control by etheric beings inside the


whew!!!@ big question.


Sorry to derail your question. I may answer it for you one day.


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    #23748500 - 10/18/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Sorry to derail your question. I may answer it for you one day.


Anyone watching... might need help





That's cool.

I know I'm under threat.  Not by any gov't agencies I hope.  :tinfoil:

I'm under threat by them...  Etherians.  They have me.  I'm fighting though.  I've found out that you can pop them like bubbles with your intent and you mind.  You don't have to respond if you that makes you more comfortable!

Its fucked up always on a knifes edge between sanity and psychosis.  Good luck.


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    #23763873 - 10/23/16 10:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Was not saying I might need help from you. I actually have no problem answering any questions the problem is I am being drug all over the country by a Manson... They have my wife somewhere else and keeping her from me. I get little time to get on the net. Only when we stop amd I can do it unnoticed. Message me. Where are you located. Looking for other awake, old souls! Reallynfucking hard to do This all alone.


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Re: fallen angels [Re: bigdoodie] * 1
    #23764751 - 10/23/16 04:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Anyone interested in fallen angels should read the book of Enoch.


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    #23773931 - 10/26/16 04:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Wake up everyone! I already alerted one very publjcally today online..... in front of the world to see. We can help and try to fix all of this shit. They have been using us and playing games. At least me and my family. I had no clue, don't think any of this is right. I am the lightbringer11 and I am just trying to see what's really going on, why and who and help. Wake up!!!!


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    #23774023 - 10/26/16 05:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Wake up to what?


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Re: fallen angels [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23774181 - 10/26/16 06:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The angels and fallen angels that wake among you. Some of them know but many do not. They are walking around asleep and are being used by secret societies and illuminati.. they use our ancient knowledge and have been manipulating everything and everyone. There is mind control involved. They are planning on killing most of you. Tlosing control. Your history as you know is a lie.your government has one of my kids and have been stalking me now for years as they have watched me go to all their forbidden sites. They are on top of and stealing something very old. They have bunkers for the special and elite. If you don't know you are already screwed. They have stolen my wife, have At least one son and pretty sure someone either killed or subliminally got my first wife to kill herself. I have just been trying to figure out why things were going so crazy. Doing this I discovered a lot. Some have helped. Need more now please. This should go viral. I've never seemed fame and don't want any. Just want to help and need some myself now. You have my permission to share this. I encourage it. Don't forget to share the first post with this one.


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    #23774192 - 10/26/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Damn they took your wife and kids?

I am so sorry brother :hug:

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    #23776920 - 10/27/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Hi... I read a little on this site. Some good info but still mixed with so many half truths and lies. Let me introduce myself here.... first: you humans have called beings like us many things, God's, angels, fallen angels, immortals..... I have had my awakening. I know exactly who and what i am, where I come from. I come from Atlantis and before! There have been MANY, MANY, MANY civilizations lost to (what you perceive as) time.

Let me star start off with this fun fact!!! There are more than thirteen illuminated bloodlines. Many more. The 13 that are in positions of power right now are just the small group of us that either remembered who were really were before the others. This group of 13 are hiding your real history from you while causing wars, lying about everything and basically using you as slaves. I have been running around this little country of ours trying to spread the truth about all of this. I have visited some of the ancient sacred sites here in the USA. There are so many here, lying in almost plans site and no a single soul notices. Denver and surrounding areas, places in the South in TN, Utah, Ohio, Nevada and California! So much to see and talk about. The crystal forest (not petrified forest like they like to claim) where to start?

Let me just end here, if anyone is interested in who I am and what i I have to say I'll come back and post again if I have not been killed. See... they knew I would wake sooner or later and would need to be dealt with. Until now they really have not been able to do much to stop me other than toss me in jail for 2 weeks and lock up my kids. I have been running around tell anyone and everyone who will listen what's coming next. What some of these secret society's are up too. I am followed every day, wherever I go. Let me just warn you in advance, if you participate in any conversations with me I can almost promise you will be watched and looked into yourself.

If there are any more of you out here that are awake, I would love to hear from you asap! Peace!




Dude do u know where i can find some potent ass shrooms? Thats all i wanna know





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Re: fallen angels [Re: Me399]
    #23778636 - 10/27/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If what you say is true than how did you make it past the wrath of hell without true acceptance of God? Not to criticize, I just recognize when someone truly knows God and God really would be the only way into heaven if an afterlife exists, and I have seen both the path to what would be heaven and what would be hell, so I know that there are two Separate places, if an afterlife exists. Do we just die and rebirth? No afterlife? That im aware of, quantum science has not yet disproven that memories die when the brain stops functioning, so how is it you claim to remember a prior existence? I'm not assuming you're lying, I just stay skeptical about everything.


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    #23780884 - 10/28/16 06:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

We normally loose all of our memories when we reincarnate... that is the first giant life. When we die we do not float off to heaven. They are keeping use trapped here with very old, secret tech and keeping track of who is who when they reincarnated. That's one of the biggest secrets the masons keep. We reincarnate and they know who is who. Only the very top learn this. This is why certain families are considered old money and why they have so much control and power. All of our religions are twisted lied. They use them to control and cause strife between the rest of us. Look at each religions symbols.... They they are all connected and have bits and pieces If the puzzle. The Mormons foundewas a freemason before he turned.  Look at the Muslim symbols.... They they use same symbols as freemasons. The thing is none of them have all the parts. Certain groups found bits and pieces all over this planet thousands of years ago and have sorta been fighting with each other trying to get the rest. Look at the videos of the Muslims and their black square. That's the square of Saturn. They worship it and circle it 7 times and are required to go at least once in there life. All their prays are aimed at it that they perform each day. What they are doing is very dangerous... They they are building up an energy, it's called circling the square. Masons either don't know or will lie saying this is not so. I am telling yoy it is. There is a reason these people are going to the ancient temples and destroying everything. The masons have what they think they need. They have made exact copies of the important temples and do not fear loosing this ancient knowledge. They are trying to wipe it off the planet so only the have access to to. Look into all of this. I am not lying or making up any of this. 10's of thousands of hours invested into figuring all of this out and I've learned many secrets along the way. Just trying to help.


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Re: fallen angels [Re: Me399]
    #23781126 - 10/28/16 08:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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We normally loose all of our memories when we reincarnate... that is the first giant life. When we die we do not float off to heaven. They are keeping use trapped here with very old, secret tech and keeping track of who is who when they reincarnated. That's one of the biggest secrets the masons keep. We reincarnate and they know who is who. Only the very top learn this. This is why certain families are considered old money and why they have so much control and power. All of our religions are twisted lied. They use them to control and cause strife between the rest of us. Look at each religions symbols.... They they are all connected and have bits and pieces If the puzzle. The Mormons foundewas a freemason before he turned.  Look at the Muslim symbols.... They they use same symbols as freemasons. The thing is none of them have all the parts. Certain groups found bits and pieces all over this planet thousands of years ago and have sorta been fighting with each other trying to get the rest. Look at the videos of the Muslims and their black square. That's the square of Saturn. They worship it and circle it 7 times and are required to go at least once in there life. All their prays are aimed at it that they perform each day. What they are doing is very dangerous... They they are building up an energy, it's called circling the square. Masons either don't know or will lie saying this is not so. I am telling yoy it is. There is a reason these people are going to the ancient temples and destroying everything. The masons have what they think they need. They have made exact copies of the important temples and do not fear loosing this ancient knowledge. They are trying to wipe it off the planet so only the have access to to. Look into all of this. I am not lying or making up any of this. 10's of thousands of hours invested into figuring all of this out and I've learned many secrets along the way. Just trying to help.



I'm a Master Mason myself, a Royal Arch Mason, and a pretty enlightened Brother. I can tell you for a fact that none of that is inculcated in any way in regular masonry. If you think that's Masonic I think you're getting into some far out irregular masonry that we Master Masons don't recognize as legitimate masonry.


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Re: fallen angels [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #23781900 - 10/29/16 06:25 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

To what extent do masons actually practice magic?

Have you had paranormal or mystical experiences during your masonic life?


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Re: fallen angels [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23783104 - 10/29/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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To what extent do masons actually practice magic?

Have you had paranormal or mystical experiences during your masonic life?



Masonry does not practice any magic. But masonry is mystical in a way, in the lessons it teaches.

The following video, The Philosophical Background for Masonic Symbolism should give you a pretty decent overview without giving away any of our secrets like grips, words, and signs. I've used this material as the basis for an educational lecture I gave in lodge. You should find it interesting and insightful.


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    #23783338 - 10/29/16 05:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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    #23784292 - 10/30/16 01:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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. . . I just stay skeptical about everything.




That seems like premeditated cognitive disengagement.


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    #23787804 - 10/31/16 08:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Have you had an mystical or revelatory / spiritual or paranormal experiences during or as a result of masonic initiation?


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    #23788115 - 10/31/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Have you had an mystical or revelatory / spiritual or paranormal experiences during or as a result of masonic initiation?



Not paranormal. I'd say the initiation experience, particularly the master mason degree and capitular degrees are revelatory and mystical. At least I found them meaningful. I mean, the lessons they inculcate through your personal experience is taken to heart. I can't tell you the content, but essentially you assume a role in a play which is acted out and you are led through, it becomes very meaningful.


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    #23788246 - 10/31/16 11:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Initiatory mystery traditions have been around since the Eulesian mystery school... for good reason.

Can you tell me about what kind of screening or testing process is required to join ?

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Re: fallen angels [Re: Leviticus969]
    #23788621 - 10/31/16 01:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Christians believe in the new testament and Jesus christ. I believe in the old. I personally dont believe eating manna is eating Jesus flesh and blood. YHWH from the old testament actually teaches that we are to NOT drink any blood whatsoever of any animal let alone a human.

Christians and Christ claim the exact opposite though. Jesus taught to drink his blood and eat his flesh. It's pretty much in opposition from YHWH himself.

Yes, the elites are using mind control symbolism to program the masses subconsciously. And when you try to call them out on some of their bs they would probably drug you out and claim that you're "seeing things". Most times we can't point out what the truth is but we feel it in our gut somewhere.

I personally don't think bread can be a mushroom. When the Hebrews were eating unleavened bread it was because they had no time to prepare real bread since they were escaping Egypt through the red sea. They were running from the Egyptians and imagine if they were eating shrooms while trying to cross the red sea. Yeah, it'll be a cool experience but they'd need a sober mind to escape from these guys in chariots and such...

I'm not sure what Gnosis is but I believe in the old testament. People seem to worship nature and it's not a bad way of communicating with God as he did create nature AND also talks to us through nature but people seem to like worshiping the creations vs the creator of all those things....



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Christians believe in the new testament and Jesus christ. I believe in the old. I personally dont believe eating manna is eating Jesus flesh and blood. YHWH from the old testament actually teaches that we are to NOT drink any blood whatsoever of any animal let alone a human.

Christians and Christ claim the exact opposite though. Jesus taught to drink his blood and eat his flesh. It's pretty much in opposition from YHWH himself.

Yes, the elites are using mind control symbolism to program the masses subconsciously. And when you try to call them out on some of their bs they would probably drug you out and claim that you're "seeing things". Most times we can't point out what the truth is but we feel it in our gut somewhere.

I personally don't think bread can be a mushroom. When the Hebrews were eating unleavened bread it was because they had no time to prepare real bread since they were escaping Egypt through the red sea. They were running from the Egyptians and imagine if they were eating shrooms while trying to cross the red sea. Yeah, it'll be a cool experience but they'd need a sober mind to escape from these guys in chariots and such...

I'm not sure what Gnosis is but I believe in the old testament. People seem to worship nature and it's not a bad way of communicating with God as he did create nature AND also talks to us through nature but people seem to like worshiping the creations vs the creator of all those things....




Christians don't just follow the New.  They accept the Old as iconic prophecy - albeit, erroneous in cases, often pertaining to demiurgic miscomprehension, which is an ailment of sin, which was later rectified by Jesus documented in the New.

The consumption of the Eucharist is not suggestive of canabalism or literalism, but an iconic devotion to the essence of the self, which is all - the 'Christ'.  You consume the food as you consume the air - the 'Tao'. The Eucharist is the alarm clock which, by way of ritual, wakes the self to the self.


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Christians believe in the new testament and Jesus christ. I believe in the old. I personally dont believe eating manna is eating Jesus flesh and blood. YHWH from the old testament actually teaches that we are to NOT drink any blood whatsoever of any animal let alone a human.

Christians and Christ claim the exact opposite though. Jesus taught to drink his blood and eat his flesh. It's pretty much in opposition from YHWH himself.

Yes, the elites are using mind control symbolism to program the masses subconsciously. And when you try to call them out on some of their bs they would probably drug you out and claim that you're "seeing things". Most times we can't point out what the truth is but we feel it in our gut somewhere.

I personally don't think bread can be a mushroom. When the Hebrews were eating unleavened bread it was because they had no time to prepare real bread since they were escaping Egypt through the red sea. They were running from the Egyptians and imagine if they were eating shrooms while trying to cross the red sea. Yeah, it'll be a cool experience but they'd need a sober mind to escape from these guys in chariots and such...

I'm not sure what Gnosis is but I believe in the old testament. People seem to worship nature and it's not a bad way of communicating with God as he did create nature AND also talks to us through nature but people seem to like worshiping the creations vs the creator of all those things....



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Christians believe in the new testament and Jesus christ. I believe in the old. I personally dont believe eating manna is eating Jesus flesh and blood. YHWH from the old testament actually teaches that we are to NOT drink any blood whatsoever of any animal let alone a human.

Christians and Christ claim the exact opposite though. Jesus taught to drink his blood and eat his flesh. It's pretty much in opposition from YHWH himself.

Yes, the elites are using mind control symbolism to program the masses subconsciously. And when you try to call them out on some of their bs they would probably drug you out and claim that you're "seeing things". Most times we can't point out what the truth is but we feel it in our gut somewhere.

I personally don't think bread can be a mushroom. When the Hebrews were eating unleavened bread it was because they had no time to prepare real bread since they were escaping Egypt through the red sea. They were running from the Egyptians and imagine if they were eating shrooms while trying to cross the red sea. Yeah, it'll be a cool experience but they'd need a sober mind to escape from these guys in chariots and such...

I'm not sure what Gnosis is but I believe in the old testament. People seem to worship nature and it's not a bad way of communicating with God as he did create nature AND also talks to us through nature but people seem to like worshiping the creations vs the creator of all those things....




Christians don't just follow the New.  They accept the Old as iconic prophecy - albeit, erroneous in cases, often pertaining to demiurgic miscomprehension, which is an ailment of sin, which was later rectified by Jesus documented in the New.

The consumption of the Eucharist is not suggestive of canabalism or literalism, but an iconic devotion to the essence of the self, which is all - the 'Christ'.  You consume the food as you consume the air - the 'Tao'. The Eucharist is the alarm clock which, by way of ritual, wakes the self to the self.




Well put for the christian interpretation of the way. :thumbup: Impressive!


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    #23788935 - 10/31/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Initiatory mystery traditions have been around since the Eulesian mystery school... for good reason.

Can you tell me about what kind of screening or testing process is required to join ?

I have been considering becoming a Mason for some time.



You but be a man, believe in a higher power, be free born, of lawful age, of good report, and properly vouched for. What this means essentially is that if you are a man at least 21 years old, believe in God, don't have a criminal record, and have a job you will be welcomed. But you have to ask for a petition if you ever want to join because it has to be of your own free will, no one is supposed to ask you to join.

Screening is done to make sure the riff raff don't easily get in. Usually a member of the lodge is a policeman and they run a check on you. They'll also send the investigative committee to your employer and ask about your reputation. If you're married they'll come out to your house and talk to your wife to make sure she's OK with it, because we don't want masonry to mess up people's marriages.

Its pretty straight forward. If you ever decide you want to join just get in touch with a local lodge and tell them you're interested and they'll invite you down and have a conversation, and you can ask for a petition.


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Re: fallen angels [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #23789518 - 10/31/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

From what one can easily find via the vast amount of information available online, Free Masons are a fraternity of brothers whose aim is to help one know and improve themselves; Compel one to the reach the realm of self-awareness... They center on a collection of information, myths, symbolism, theatre, and ritual to aid in this process.

(In the many hundreds of years ago when the order was established, there was no internet... Welcome to the new age in which much is available to everyone)


Frameworks many times help people and everyone has a right to their privacy.
There are frameworks that are 1000s of years old. There are frameworks that are hundreds of years old.

All in all, you begin to see that it is one of many frameworks available to help one know themselves and improve. If it works for you, it works for you. Otherwise, there are many frameworks out there.

Also, no matter where you go or what you believe in or practice, there you are.
You're a human first... No man or organization is beyond this.

Given the history of the U.S, there are for instance predominately black Mason chapters :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Hall_Freemasonry
There are instances of all white chapters.
For some time into the early 2000s , in Alabama, there were 32,000 men enrolled in 318 lodges and all were caucasian.

Segregation issues exists in Mason chapters....
This highlights the 'human nature' of things...
Showing how societal norms can even penetrate into elevating private organizations. There are all sorts of bodies created by different chapters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masonic_bodies . 'knights of this'.. 'knights of that' .. 'knights of [mathematical reference]'

There is nothing new under the sun.
Truth conquers all. No man is above it, beside it, or all knowing of it.

There are many books full of knowledge written in many languages under many different frameworks.

Those truly in search of truth and knowledge find it. No one has a monopoly on truth for it is beyond man and shines in all directions capable of reaching all of those who can 'see'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahbulon
• יהּ (Yah, I AM, which indicates eternal existence),
• בּעל (b'el, owner, husband, lord[11] ) and
• און (on, strength); pronouncing three aspects or qualities of Deity, namely Eternal Existence, Ownership, and Omnipotence and equating to "The Eternal God - Master - Almighty".[12]

There are many awakened people who are knowledgeable who became that way via many different journeys, frameworks, belief systems, and experiences. No one organization has a monopoly on truth, knowledge, or wisdom. The grand ones aren't secret and there are no rituals that guarantee your eyes will be opened.

So, calm down everyone. It's really not that serious.
Buckle in and enjoy the ride.

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Re: fallen angels [Re: phio]
    #23799295 - 11/03/16 10:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'm just gonna post my book all over shroomery, maybe it will help you OP.

https://www.scribd.com/document/329936336/The-Root-of-David


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Re: fallen angels [Re: Rhizohunter]
    #23799925 - 11/04/16 07:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I understand what you are going through. I knew that amazing state where all the music and billboards and commercials are talking directly to you.  Where your thoughts synch up with everything and their are signs and signals and messages in everything.

Are your family worried about you or trying to get you into mental health services?


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