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    #23717698 - 10/07/16 08:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

This is a very serious matter to many, that causes a lot of suicides and very severe anxiety, so please do not be bashful towards anyone who this post is directed to.

If you do not know that you are a fallen angel, then you are not one, those who know that they are, know that they are. We find God, and are met with the duty of living without sin, or facing the consequences of what we perceive as going to hell. I've experienced this fall from God's Grace, and felt the conscious creation of virtual fire on my body, like a sunburn that is still being burned, with the mental torment of having no way out and being doomed for ever and ever. Suicidal tendencies tend to unfold in this state, and it can be a non stop virtue. This "fallen angel" concept, seems so real, and they make up the Illuminati and Satan's army to do evil, but this is the only life we have, and that virtual fire sensation and mental torment IS hell, but we are only there until we feel we no longer deserve is. The bible states the condition of the dead as not knowing anything, ans that is the truth. When we are dead we are dead for good, there is no judgement after death.

I understand what we may go through to redeem ourselves, and convince ourselves its not true, and hating when a Christian person cries out on a video saying hell is real and to repent, and believing that because the bible says it so confidently that it is the truth, over and over, when it is false, and it is a weapon so make genocide easier for the elite, who have existed for a very long time and have continued to perfect and elude the world based on critical aspects of the human psyche. If we all knew we were mortal and would understand it in full instead of just sitting on the thought until the say death comes, then we would appreciate our lives much more and wouldnt bow so easily. To tell us that we go to a better place after death convinces us to die for jesus, and there so much intention behind this movement that its difficult to get a hunch that maybe the deception is bigger than we think. Let god remain a part of us, giving us wisdom and understanding, and not let evil persuade us to begin to hate what we truly love, and let the light back in. The matrix is real, the world around "you" as in you reading this, IS you. There is no we, there is only (I). Division is the illusion, all is one system when (I) understand this (I) will begin to see what things are our of place and where we fall into place. The universe does have order, and the evil is what has it out of order right now, and by understanding the all-one, it is known what changes need to be made at what specific times. Not by charts and research, but by observing and reacting on impulsive instinct to create positive changes, based on the slight disorder that (i) see in (my) immediate or even distant surroundings. (Touch, on Netflix reflects on this).  Be one with the (I) and (I) will show you the matrix. There is no we, and this division has shattered the system into a million pieces, it is up to those of (us) that are aware, who can read the intentions written on faces, and know the order of the universe to put it back in place. The self is nothing if it is not giving back. Love does make the world go around. This knowledge, will present to the human body the importance of doing good to others. It is because (I) am one system, and (I) am self destructing. The fallen will save humanity, and God has blessed us with the greatest achievement this life has to offer- the key to the universe.


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Re: fallen angels [Re: bigdoodie]
    #23717958 - 10/07/16 10:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: fallen angels [Re: bigdoodie]
    #23719885 - 10/08/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

it's not fruitful to literalize myth. I see most if not all the evils in the world paste and present coming from literalizing what is really metaphor.

So for example, in mythology gods are really personifications of psychoactive fungi and other psychoactive plants (checkout John Allegro's The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross, and Mike Crowley). To know/dig that cuts out all the crap. You go literally to the root---which is the actuality of you going and picking a vegetation. You are not drowning in words and stories. there is a real live food. by saying this I dont mean you believe what they believed. But you see and feel and eat the SOURCE. Even deeper than etymology---which is also important. To find roots of words and meanings

Now the ancients did not know about fungi spores, and believed mushrooms (we are talking psychoactive because these had the biggest impact on their psyche). They thus assumed they descended from above, especially after thunderstorms! This comes the concept of the 'fallen angel' ~ from Greek angelos "messenger". IE they would consult these mushrooms like you hear other people who use these fungi and plants do, like shamans etc

Now there is distinction between the concept that the fungi are gods or Gods and fallen angels. A different interpretation. For the believer who believes the mushrooms is Jesus Christ/God it is not a 'fallen' angel. The concept OF fallen angels actually derives from Christianity. Rather the fallen angels would be their Satan/Lucifer, also personifications of psychoactive fungi.

These mindsets are dualistic and separate goody goody angels from completely evil demons. And this mindset is shared both by the Christian mindset and the Satanist mindset. The latter would gladly call them fallen angels

A much more ancient and radical and nondualistic understanding of magic fungi comes from Goddess mythos. In this mythos it doesn't matter spores cannot be seen. Shrooms like all vegetation springs from Mother Earth, and the taking of them is not so much to hear 'messages', like 'channeling' from some gods/Gods from above, but rather bodymind immersion into the sacred mysteries of nature.


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Re: fallen angels [Re: zzripz] * 1
    #23720127 - 10/08/16 05:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

oh my gooooood zzripz just had to destroy an already perfect thread with his stupid feminazi mother earth bull shit.

I don't understand why people keep thinking shrooms  are some forbidden fruit bs.

God made all the seeds, trees, plants of Eden to be utilized by us. It's not even forbidden!!!!

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29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.





The tree of life and the tree of knowledge of good and evil represent this:

The tree of life represents YHWH's instructions. He only wants what's good for us. He gives us everything we could ever wish to have if we listen to our "FATHER" the creator of EVERYTHING. This includes shrooms, weed, aya, whatever else you can think of!

As soon as we disobey and get greedy. You understand? GREED. Adam and Eve already had EVERYTHING but they wanted more. They wanted to be their own Gods. They didn't trust YHWH and had to see for themselves what would happen.

The penalty for knowing what happens after eating the forbidden fruit is getting thrown out of Eden, A paradise on earth. Get it? Adam ended up having to work like a dog his whole life and Eve's childbirth now hurts like a bitch a woman get periods because of disobedience.  So you got to ask yourself, is it really worth it to know evil? THere was only good but now you know both good and evil. Big whoop, too bad the penalty is to die a little, and every time you sin, a little more.... Until your life is just a big joke beyond repentance. That's what it means to "surely die".


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Re: fallen angels [Re: Man Cub]
    #23720143 - 10/08/16 05:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

We get further and further from the garden of eden and the tree of life everytime we eat the forbidden fruit and sin.

Take a look at the world around you and you'll find that we are from from Eden. A self sustaining garden which had unlimited natural resources.

We were put here to tend to the animals and the garden. But the government elitist and whatnot dont want that. They want to enslave and hide the truth that is God.

They don't want you to know the truth, they don't want you to be self sustaining, they don't want you to smoke weed, eat shrooms, do dmt, none of that, they don't want you to be happy. They want you enslaved. Keep you doped on orgies, sports, and fruitless endeavors. They've turned everything good into "forbidden". This is probably where you guys get the confusion from. They lie to you and call it "good".

If we want to release the shackles that bind we have to find the truth and stop imprisoning ourselves with ignorance.


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Don't watch the jungle book movie. It sucks so bad. Horrible subliminal pagan messages designed to fuck with your head.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/dispatches/2016/04/12/barton-disney-is-making-kids-worship-pagan-gods/


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Re: fallen angels [Re: Man Cub]
    #23720351 - 10/08/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

why do you say when we are dead we are dead for good? What about all those NDEs where people have crazy experiences and what about reincarnation?


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Re: fallen angels [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23720495 - 10/08/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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By the sweat of your face You will eat bread, Till you return to the ground, Because from it you were taken; For you are dust, And to dust you shall return."




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then the dust will return to the earth as it was, and the spirit will return to God who gave it.




My theory on reincarnation is that if God likes you and thinks you deserve another chance to make it right then he'll send you back into the womb in a later period of history. Even if he does that, you will have no recollection of your past lives. You will be born in an era you're not familiar with. So in a sense, when we create hell on earth, trashing it, thinking that "oh well, I'm gunna die anyways. Sucks for the next generation." We are actually dooming ourselves since reincarnation is a possibility. We enter into the world we create whether it's past, present, future. History literally repeats itself going through stages of heaven and hell and vice versa. Kingdoms rise and fall. The prophecy of the Messiah is that he will restore peace unto the land forever until the end of time.


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Don't watch the jungle book movie. It sucks so bad. Horrible subliminal pagan messages designed to fuck with your head.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/dispatches/2016/04/12/barton-disney-is-making-kids-worship-pagan-gods/


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Re: fallen angels [Re: Man Cub]
    #23720898 - 10/08/16 10:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Just for clarity I am not saying we should all turn our back on God the "supreme reality" (not a being). Once we find the spirit, the light turns on in us and we see our true alien nature, and the sins are what make us Human, so if we sin, we go from alien back to human, and the light permanently dims, and at that point we "fall from heaven". Then the torment comes and it is severe, and many people who experience this, I am without doubt, will commit suicide. Anyone who finds the spirit should live in the spirit, it is the most satisfying achievement, but anyone who chooses to sin should not spend their lives tormenting themselves with the fear of going to hell, because there is no factual evidence.


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Re: fallen angels [Re: Man Cub]
    #23721384 - 10/09/16 07:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I am surely dead. But I will be resurrected through the gifts God gave me.

Willpower
Skill
Passion
Honor
Respect


I am fit for command. I'm your guy. Whoever you are I'm your guy.

Edit,

I once asked a Muslim man about Djinn. It was one of the very first things I asked him. In hindsight I can tell he wanted to tell me "I'm talking to one right now...", but he was nice and divulged his beliefs for me without any filter of opinion. Very nice man.

Anyways, he told me there's all kinds of Djinn. More or less you can be super good, super evil, or somewhere in between.

This creation we have, as also said in Mahayana, is a big field of activity where all can prosper based on their ability. There was a system going that wanted to annihilate the ability based society, but certain individuals have assumed their form and have met the challenge of our enemy. All we must do now is simply love our enemy.

Also, the enemy of my enemy IS my friend...

Peace is our birthright and we will fight for it, tooth and nail.

If I could give any order right now it would be "no quarter". Unchain your inhibitions and let your ability flow like the elements. Know your element. I am air.

Well, hmm.
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Under the modern laws of war, "....it is especially forbidden....to declare that no quarter will be given".




Disregard that. I suck cocks.


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Re: fallen angels [Re: Man Cub] * 1
    #23722200 - 10/09/16 01:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Man Cub said:

We get further and further from the garden of eden and the tree of life everytime we eat the forbidden fruit and sin.





Don't many people think the story of Adam and Eve reveals the suffering caused by dualism?

That by succumbing to the temptation of labeling everything "good" or "bad" we enter the gates of hell


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    #23722358 - 10/09/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

OP, people are people, and angels are angels. And truth is stranger than fiction sometimes. A lot of our ancient myths are completely accurate historical records. Fallen angels are completely real.

If you've got some spare time and want your mind blown watch this video, its about the Nephilim.



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Re: fallen angels [Re: Man Cub]
    #23724301 - 10/10/16 05:49 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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oh my gooooood zzripz just had to destroy an already perfect thread with his stupid feminazi mother earth bull shit.




hmmm I see.

Did you know this is a no flame zone and you just flamed me? And seem to have got away with it?

Did you also know that IF any post disturb you so much there exists an ignore button you can click on so you don't have to see the post?

I now am gonna use it against your nasty flaming rants.

On one hand putting down what you rudely call my 'stupid feminazi mother earth bull shit' and next sentence, and rest of posts, pushing your patriarchal dualistic BS myth.

bye bye and good riddance


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    #23724305 - 10/10/16 05:57 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

i just find it sadly amusing that people frequenting the 'SHROOMERY' hint hint, and supposedly experienced,  are not hip to the available knowledge that 'fallen angels' are really referring to psychoactive mushrooms, and is not meant to be taken LITERALLY except by the gullibgle who buy all the other literalized BS

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    #23724393 - 10/10/16 07:59 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You haven't met enough people.


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    #23724519 - 10/10/16 09:02 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

how dya know?


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    #23725210 - 10/10/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

We shouldnt take anyones word for granted. the fallen angels are those who actually find God, which is very few, and see that God is not a being but the supreme reality, and understands ego and how sin fuels the ego and changes us from the alien thst we are into what we perceive as humans. At the point of finding God we see how magnificent we are and become full of light and only at that point can we experience 100% conscious awareness without any thoughts, and to commit a sin we have to have an opinion, and if we act on it, the light dims permanently and God will start to drift away. Where God says "depart from me ye wicked", because after the sin we think its all good and we can repent but our sincerity will forever keep us distant from God because we chose to sin instead of accept a 100% peaceful thoughtless existence. that's who the fallen angels are; people who are closest to God who then commit a sin. In the bible it says that hell was made for Satan and the fallen angels. Because its only when we find god that we can be permanently kicked out of God's grace, but there's no afterlife, our memories die with the brain.


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    #23725405 - 10/10/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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We shouldnt take anyones word for granted. the fallen angels are those who actually find God, which is very few, and see that God is not a being but the supreme reality, and understands ego and how sin fuels the ego and changes us from the alien thst we are into what we perceive as humans. At the point of finding God we see how magnificent we are and become full of light and only at that point can we experience 100% conscious awareness without any thoughts, and to commit a sin we have to have an opinion, and if we act on it, the light dims permanently and God will start to drift away. Where God says "depart from me ye wicked", because after the sin we think its all good and we can repent but our sincerity will forever keep us distant from God because we chose to sin instead of accept a 100% peaceful thoughtless existence. that's who the fallen angels are; people who are closest to God who then commit a sin. In the bible it says that hell was made for Satan and the fallen angels. Because its only when we find god that we can be permanently kicked out of God's grace, but there's no afterlife, our memories die with the brain.




I've taken issue with much of this. That sin is somehow good. That seems even more extreme than moral relativism. Look at the nature of sin, of man's inhumanity toward man, of war and violence, of genocide, or of rape and pedophilia. Whereas God is LOVE and His law in completeness is to do unto others as you'd have them do unto you and love your neighbor as yourself. What a contrast! Death and sin versus the light and love of Jesus Christ in your eyes. Oh He does love you brother! So much that he laid down His life to redeem us! And there is life after death! We are not merely this crude stuff of blood and bone, that's just our vessel. Your true self is the ghost in the machine.


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    #23726803 - 10/10/16 09:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

There is no life after death. Bill bye, Stephen Hawking, Neil degrasse Tyson, and I'm sure many other reputable people will say the same thing. It is science fiction to believe that our memories can live on without a functioning brain.

The fear of hell and hope of an afterlife is an essential tool that the Illuminati is using to bring in the new world order. If we knew we were mortal we would appreciate our lives much more and do more to protect it. It should be no surprise that there are lies in the bible- the old testament doesn't even mention an afterlife, the Vatican added it later on, along with a fancy strip of gold paint, because people like shiny things. There is no "glorious light", but maybe for a couple of seconds while the DMT enters the pineal gland, but in that moment there is so much epiphany that we don't even care about death, we just accept it because we understand that it really doesn't matter. The way I see it, we are eternal by the word "we". The individual will die but the occupants of the universe will remain forever and ever, when we get rid of our individuality we no longer care of what happens to ourself, and that's the most fulfilling thing there is. Really, eternal death and reincarnation are one in the same, because we are all the same person


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    #23726879 - 10/10/16 10:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Bill Nye, Stephen Hawking, Neil degrasse Tyson however smart they might be, however high their IQs are, are wrong about this. How can anyone look around and see a world and things and think that it came from nothing? Its hubris, pure hubris to think that because you figured out a little about how something works that you know more than the creator of that thing. We are created. The world and our solar system and our galaxy are all creations of this divine architect I call God. Its self evident.


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    #23727234 - 10/11/16 12:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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There is no life after death. Bill bye, Stephen Hawking, Neil degrasse Tyson, and I'm sure many other reputable people will say the same thing. It is science fiction to believe that our memories can live on without a functioning brain.

The fear of hell and hope of an afterlife is an essential tool that the Illuminati is using to bring in the new world order. If we knew we were mortal we would appreciate our lives much more and do more to protect it. It should be no surprise that there are lies in the bible- the old testament doesn't even mention an afterlife, the Vatican added it later on, along with a fancy strip of gold paint, because people like shiny things. There is no "glorious light", but maybe for a couple of seconds while the DMT enters the pineal gland, but in that moment there is so much epiphany that we don't even care about death, we just accept it because we understand that it really doesn't matter. The way I see it, we are eternal by the word "we". The individual will die but the occupants of the universe will remain forever and ever, when we get rid of our individuality we no longer care of what happens to ourself, and that's the most fulfilling thing there is. Really, eternal death and reincarnation are one in the same, because we are all the same person




People who have had NDEs will tell you otherwise, look at Dr. Eben Alexander's NDE. His brain function was so low that science would say there is no way he could have had any cognition of anything yet he had the most vivid NDE.

You are also wrong about the Old  Testament not referencing an afterlife.


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