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Re: Donald Trump to lower corporate tax to 15% [Re: Enlil]
#23723875 - 10/09/16 10:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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exactly
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Re: Donald Trump to lower corporate tax to 15% [Re: ballsalsa]
#23723884 - 10/09/16 10:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So, you agree that it's exactly the same? The EPA regulates private business just like the Fed regulates private business.
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Re: Donald Trump to lower corporate tax to 15% [Re: Enlil]
#23723904 - 10/09/16 10:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The EPA doesn't consist of private businesses though. the Federal Reserve does.
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Re: Donald Trump to lower corporate tax to 15% [Re: elax420] 2
#23723914 - 10/09/16 10:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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elax420 said: Investing=saving what??
Yes. If you don't understand basic business concepts, I suggest looking them up before asking.
Savings - The portion of disposable income not spent on consumption of consumer goods but accumulated or invested directly in capital equipment or in paying off a home mortgage, or indirectly through purchase of securities.
Saving isn't the same thing as investing, stop lying.
Do you mean stop proving you wrong with evidence, such as a link to the Business Dictionary definition of savings?
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elax420 said: Tell me Mr. "MBA" *cough* bullshit *cough* do you pay capital gains on the .05% interest you get from the bank?
I currently get 0.25% interest, and it is taxed as ordinary income. You should do something about that cold.
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elax420 said: Can you withdraw your money at any time, or do you have sell your "security"?
I can withdraw my cash savings at any time, and I can withdraw my stocks/mutual funds savings at any time by selling it for cash.
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elax420 said: Is capital held in stocks backed by the government, or can you can you lose your entire keyword "investment" at any time.
No, it is not backed by the Government. I invest in mutual funds, and while it's hypothetically possible to lose a lot, it is also hypothetically possible to lose a lot of cash (if the dollar devalues due to hyperinflation, for example).
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elax420 said: Liar liar pants on fire!

The easiest way to tell when you catch someone's bullshit or you've won an argument, is the reverting to an elementary school kid "no you" flip of an insult. Like shit you so embarrassed you can't even come up with your own insult.
Do you mean like calling me a liar without backing yourself up???
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elax420 said: The other sign that someone is a master purveyor of bullshit is they do the split quote tried and true "Zappa method" and hides behind obscure links. I'm on to you bro. 
Yes, I see you get upset when people back their claims with evidence. I never realized that was a sign of bullshit. I guess I learned logic from a different school.
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elax420 said: I'm not a doctor. Unlike falcon I'm not comfortable with lying about shit I know nothing about.
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Re: Donald Trump to lower corporate tax to 15% [Re: ballsalsa]
#23723937 - 10/09/16 10:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: The EPA doesn't consist of private businesses though. the Federal Reserve does.
Ownership of the Fed is always a semantics argument, but I believe Congress has more control of the Fed than the bankers, even if the bankers run the day to day operations.
The original debate was who is responsible for quantitative easing - the Government or Private Industry? I would say the Government has more responsibility, as the Fed doesn't operate in a vacuum. I disagree that QE was a bad thing given the Great Recession of 2008, but that's for another thread.
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ballsalsa said: The EPA doesn't consist of private businesses though. the Federal Reserve does.
Ownership of the Fed is always a semantics argument, but I believe Congress has more control of the Fed than the bankers, even if the bankers run the day to day operations.
The original debate was who is responsible for quantitative easing - the Government or Private Industry? I would say the Government has more responsibility, as the Fed doesn't operate in a vacuum. I disagree that QE was a bad thing given the Great Recession of 2008, but that's for another thread.
I didn't say that QE was bad, my point was that repatriating large amounts of dollars at a tax discount is a bad idea, partially because it would exacerbate inflation caused by to QE, which would devalue the revenues gained in this way
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Re: Donald Trump to lower corporate tax to 15% [Re: ballsalsa]
#23723989 - 10/09/16 11:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You may be right. 
I think the discussion went a little off topic regarding who was responsible for QE.
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Re: Donald Trump to lower corporate tax to 15% [Re: Crumist]
#23757773 - 10/21/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Crumist said: I promise you that the (vast majority of the) wealthy aren't hording their money in savings accounts, in gold, or under their mattresses. Their money is placed wherever their broker determines reward/risk is greatest
Panama. Yes, Panama. Well, not so much anymore.
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Re: Donald Trump to lower corporate tax to 15% [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#23757785 - 10/21/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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elax420 said: I'm not a doctor. Unlike falcon I'm not comfortable with lying about shit I know nothing about.
I'll give you five shrooms for you if you can show us what I lied about.     I might be biased as a judge, so I'll let Enlil decide if you caught me in a lie (if he cares to weigh in on your reply to this).
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I like where this is going.
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Re: Donald Trump to lower corporate tax to 15% [Re: qman]
#23757798 - 10/21/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bigbadwooof said: Donald Trump has a novel idea - We should lower corporate tax rates to 15%. That way more businesses will want to set up shop in America, or stay here.
This is called Trickle Down Economics, or 'Reaganomics'. He's a real thinker, people. Innovator. He wants to give America a golden shower, moreso than any of his predecessors!
Trickle Down Reaganomics doesn't fucking work. It never has.
Can someone please explain to me what I don't understand about this?
Trump apologists unite!
Sometimes a tax cut can stimulate business activity, but not in the environment we are currently in today.
The companies will just hoard the cash and not reinvest it back into the general economy because demand remains weak.
What did US corporations do with the super low interest rates the past 8 years? Borrow money to buy back shares, not to grow the company.
Back to the first (and last) post that pertained to the OP.
I agree with this post. Trump does not.
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Re: Donald Trump to lower corporate tax to 15% [Re: Bigbadwooof] 2
#23764525 - 10/23/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Trumped up trickled down economics! Yeah he wants to golden shower America; he would piss on each and everyone of our faces if giventhe chance! He is only making the rich richer and the poor even more poor! Vote for me and i'll tax the rich ($250,000 a year +) 35% more so that anyone making less then that can go to community colleges for free.
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Re: Donald Trump to lower corporate tax to 15% [Re: Rick Grimsy]
#23764949 - 10/23/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fuck you
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