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Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft
#23717115 - 10/07/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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In the starkest declaration yet Russia has stated that it will destroy any aircraft over syria if the US coalition directly targets the Assad regime again.
We are one stray shot away from nuclear annihilation. What a time to be alive.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/06/russian-air-defence-missiles-would-respond-if-us-launches-air-st/amp/
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23717192 - 10/07/16 06:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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then let's hope the bastards on the other side back down like they usually do when Russia says "no, enough of that." This is just like Georgia/Ossetia/Crimea all over again.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Visionary Tools] 4
#23717203 - 10/07/16 06:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23717207 - 10/07/16 06:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've been warning about this since Clinton stated her position on Syria. These boneheads don't think Russia has the balls to stand up to us as indicated by one of her intercepted email though not written by her. On the brink of destruction and all the news outlets are reporting on how Trump talked about some woman's pussy or something in 2005.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Visionary Tools]
#23717212 - 10/07/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Today, the US officially accused high level officials in the Russian government with hacking the DNC emails.
Putin is probably mad his butt boy is tanking in the polls
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: SoloTrip] 1
#23717228 - 10/07/16 06:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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SoloTrip said: I've been warning about this since Clinton stated her position on Syria. These boneheads don't think Russia has the balls to stand up to us as indicated by one of her intercepted email though not written by her. On the brink of destruction and all the news outlets are reporting on how Trump talked about some woman's pussy or something in 2005.
I'd rather have someone take a tough stand against Russia like Clinton then Trump, who literally said he likes Putin because Putin said nice things about him. Trump is like a puppy dog who rolls over in submission if you make cute noises at him.
You don't think the fact that a presidential candidate openly talking about sexual assaulting women is newsworthy?
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods]
#23717240 - 10/07/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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obvious bait is obvious
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#23717249 - 10/07/16 06:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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the u.s. started that shit in ukraine and the middle east lol
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#23717251 - 10/07/16 06:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Putin is stirring shit up because he wants trump to win. He knows Clinton will take a hard stand against him like she did as Secretary of State. Putin hates Clinton. He knows he can walk all over trump.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods]
#23717253 - 10/07/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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DON'T BITE
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Konyap]
#23717255 - 10/07/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Konyap said: the u.s. started that shit in ukraine and the middle east lol
You're delusional
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#23717256 - 10/07/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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IT'S WHAT HE WANTS
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Konyap] 1
#23717275 - 10/07/16 06:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Konyap said: the u.s. started that shit in ukraine and the middle east lol
I have yet to see a post from you that has the least bit of factual truth.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
#23717281 - 10/07/16 06:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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He must be a trump supporter. They automatically side with Russia over the US.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#23717315 - 10/07/16 06:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's a little more nuanced than that. Watch my video. It's not about Trump vs Clinton per se but whether the US should attempt to remove Assad which places us in yet another war and in direct confrontation with Russia. I'm a lifelong Democrat btw and certainly not with Trump but I'm starting to think the buffoon might actually be the lesser of two evils. I'm most hoping that one of them get disqualified and the replacement defeats the other. I'm hoping that Wikileaks can uncover something particularly imcriminating against Clinton and then the vote to replace her as the candidate.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods]
#23717325 - 10/07/16 06:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't think this has anything to do with frump vs Hillary
The wars been going on for a long while now
Frankly Russia has the right to defend their ally We were warned not to invade years and years ago The US needs to stop pushing for war with Russia
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Repertoire89]
#23717383 - 10/07/16 07:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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We haven't invaded. We are there supporting our ally Iraq in a fight against ISIS which is headquartered in Syria. The US is not trying to overthrow Assad. We are trying to defeat ISIS.
The country that really has no business being involved is Russia.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods]
#23717393 - 10/07/16 07:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Russia is interfering with domestic affairs in Syria by bombing rebel groups at the behest of Assad which would be analogous to Trump asking his Russian allies to sabotage Hillary Clinton. Oops.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods]
#23717396 - 10/07/16 07:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Clinton wants to remove Assad. She is ready to start on day 1. Start WW3 on day 1.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23717400 - 10/07/16 07:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The usa and russia have always been at war, but now they use the rebels to fight each other.
Nothings really changed since world war 2, everyone is still at war with each other, except now they arm and train the rebels and they use them to fight their wars indirectly so as to avoid direct confrontation..
Gorillas by night, instead of armies by day
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods] 1
#23717411 - 10/07/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: We haven't invaded. We are there supporting our ally Iraq in a fight against ISIS which is headquartered in Syria. The US is not trying to overthrow Assad. We are trying to defeat ISIS.
The country that really has no business being involved is Russia.
im actually flabbergasted that people are responding to this flagrant horse shit
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: zZZz] 2
#23717412 - 10/07/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Difference in Russia and the US being in Syria is Russia was asked to, the USA was not.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#23717456 - 10/07/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: We haven't invaded. We are there supporting our ally Iraq in a fight against ISIS which is headquartered in Syria. The US is not trying to overthrow Assad. We are trying to defeat ISIS.
The country that really has no business being involved is Russia.
im actually flabbergasted that people are responding to this flagrant horse shit
Is that why they bombed SAA forces a couple weeks ago, something which directly assisted ISIS's advance? They do these things to strengthen assad and weaken ISIS?
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods] 2
#23717499 - 10/07/16 07:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: We haven't invaded. We are there supporting our ally Iraq in a fight against ISIS which is headquartered in Syria. The US is not trying to overthrow Assad. We are trying to defeat ISIS.
The country that really has no business being involved is Russia.
Russia was invited into Syria to fight ISIS.
The US literally invaded Syria, not only do we not have permission but have been told to leave. The US has been openly pushing for the removal of Assad, the demand has been made countless times.
None of that is even open for debate, our own government doesn't deny any of it.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23717690 - 10/07/16 08:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: We are one stray shot away from nuclear annihilation.
no.the.fuck.we.aren't.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Repertoire89]
#23717711 - 10/07/16 08:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: We haven't invaded. We are there supporting our ally Iraq in a fight against ISIS which is headquartered in Syria. The US is not trying to overthrow Assad. We are trying to defeat ISIS.
The country that really has no business being involved is Russia.
Russia was invited into Syria to fight ISIS.
The US literally invaded Syria, not only do we not have permission but have been told to leave. The US has been openly pushing for the removal of Assad, the demand has been made countless times.
None of that is even open for debate, our own government doesn't deny any of it.
well, where are all the liberals protesting these illegal wars that obama is dragging us into
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23717730 - 10/07/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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There's another problem with our partisan politics.
Personally I don't care that much about the war, the deception is more irritating. And fucking around with Russia, we have a lot of shit allies they could replace.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23717737 - 10/07/16 08:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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the cia funneled guns to poor tribal people to start wars they are now responsible for over 100,000 deaths a year and the dissolution of iraq
not only that but we installed a puppet govt in ukraine that bombs it's own citizens the russians had a right to be there when the old gov't was taken out in a coup and the easterners that identified with russia wanted out
the usa hasn't prevented violence in any country if they did they would modernize the country rather then load up poor homophobic people with guns that they end up selling to the real buyers the saudi's, isis and the taliban
heck im sure syria and libya and all of them still get 3 billion in assistence
pat them on the back and then murder them and create a war torn shit hole AMERICA FUCK YEAH!!!
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23717749 - 10/07/16 08:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: In the starkest declaration yet Russia has stated that it will destroy any aircraft over syria if the US coalition directly targets the Assad regime again.
We are one stray shot away from nuclear annihilation. What a time to be alive.
they won't shoot planes down with nuclear missiles.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Konyap]
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Konyap said: the cia funneled guns to poor tribal people to start wars they are now responsible for over 100,000 deaths a year and the dissolution of iraq
the obama administration did so, then they armed and financed the 'syrian rebels' who as it turns out is ISIS, obama would have known this had he not decided to hang his hat on "arab spring' and actually attended his intelligence briefings, but guess who else is involved.... yep, hillary http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/23/hillary-clinton-sponsored-secretive-arab-spring-program-that-destabilized-middle-east/
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Adolin]
#23717802 - 10/07/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It wouldnt take long to get to that point once war is declared.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: SoloTrip]
#23717871 - 10/07/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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SoloTrip said: Clinton wants to remove Assad. She is ready to start on day 1. Start WW3 on day 1.
Maybe 5 years ago, I'm sure there was consideration about ways to undermine Assad. There was a lot of pressure on the Obama administration from a group of republicans lead by John McCain to get involved in the civil war. Focus changed from resolving the civil war to stopping the rise of isis. That goal is shared by Assad and Russia.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Repertoire89]
#23717905 - 10/07/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: We haven't invaded. We are there supporting our ally Iraq in a fight against ISIS which is headquartered in Syria. The US is not trying to overthrow Assad. We are trying to defeat ISIS.
The country that really has no business being involved is Russia.
Russia was invited into Syria to fight ISIS.
The US literally invaded Syria, not only do we not have permission but have been told to leave. The US has been openly pushing for the removal of Assad, the demand has been made countless times. None of that is even open for debate, our own government doesn't deny any of it.
The US was asked by Iraq to help fight ISIS. Syria wouldn't be involved if the country had control of its own territory. We don't have any troops in Syria and we bomb ISIS targets. We don't target Syrian troops.
Let's not forget that Russia got involved long after US and Arab coalition air strike began. Russia is the one causing trouble. I'm just amazed so many people want to run away as soon as Putin says something threatening.
I guess everyone is too young to remember when there was constant tension between Russia and the US. This is nothing.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods] 1
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The official dialogue isnt whats actually happening on the ground or their real intentions in being involved in this conflict. If congress was about the objective betterment of humanity they would've stopped the 8-9 genocides that have occurred globally since the second world war. US involvement in the middle east has increased acts of terrorism by 6000% percent, and has destroyed 5 countries so far. To so successfully achieve the opposite of what they publicly posit about terrorism seems a little too much to swallow. Arms deals to countries full of wahabi and salafist terrorists really only serves to back up the dialogue that theyre involved with ISIS and want to see it grow not shrink. Realistically the only thing theyve ever done with any amount of success is to breed the extremism, confusion and violence in these countries. We see this happen so often, you have to start to wonder if thats the intended effect.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23717925 - 10/07/16 09:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm fine with just pulling out and letting them deal with this shit themselves. It's not politically possible.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods]
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There's one caveat:
The threat of run of the mill terrorism in the US is totally overblown. It's such a minor issue and we pay way to much attention to a few small events. The real threat is letting a group like isis gain the resources and expertise to make a nuclear weapon. There is the risk that letting the Middle East sort things out itself means we don't have much control over preventing this from happening.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods]
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In May, the outlet [Cumhuriyet] published photos of weapons it said were then transferred to Syria by Turkey’s intelligence agency. … The articles, published on Cumhuriyet’s front page in May, claimed that Turkey’s National Intelligence Organization (MİT) is smuggling weapons in trucks into Syria and was caught doing so twice in 2014. The trucks were allegedly stopped and searched by police, with photos and videos of their contents obtained by Cumhuriyet.According to the paper, the trucks were carrying six steel containers, with 1,000 artillery shells, 50,000 machine gun rounds, 30,000 heavy machine gun rounds and 1,000 mortar shells. The arms were reportedly delivered to extremist groups fighting against the Syrian government of President Bashar Assad, whom Ankara wants ousted from power.
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"I want to be very clear: Turkey is a NATO ally. The US supports Turkish rights to defend itself and its airspace and its territory," Obama said after meeting his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan in Paris.
"We all have a common enemy and that is ISIL and I want to make sure we focus on that threat," Obama said, using an alternative name for ISIS.
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The aircraft of the international coalition headed by the USA attacked Syrian army positions in the Syrian city of Deir ez-Zor in the province, Reuters reported.
The blow was struck on Saturday, said in the broadcast of the Syrian state television, the representative of command of armed forces of the country. Statements from the US regarding the incident is not followed.
The losses of the SAA amounted to tens of dead and wounded (the figures vary from 30 to 60 killed – according to the defense Ministry at the SAA 62 killed, over 100 injured, according to the Agency France Press at the SAA 30 killed). In fact, the United States provided tactical air support to the militants of the Caliphate, that is, if to speak in essence. You have to understand that the response in the form of air strikes against Pro-American groups in Syria will not be long in coming. Now in the area occupied by the Caliphate of the height of the heavy fighting going on where the army is trying to regain lost ground (a number of Pro-Syrian sources claim that some of the areas are already recaptured).
A common enemy 
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koods said: The US was asked by Iraq to help fight ISIS. Syria wouldn't be involved if the country had control of its own territory
Iraq isn't Syria, you can't give someone permission to enter your neighbor's house.
The Syrian civil war itself is pretty dubious, we may have been involved in getting it started.
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koods said: There's one caveat:
The threat of run of the mill terrorism in the US is totally overblown. It's such a minor issue and we pay way to much attention to a few small events. The real threat is letting a group like isis gain the resources and expertise to make a nuclear weapon. There is the risk that letting the Middle East sort things out itself means we don't have much control over preventing this from happening.
I'm for intervention, but am of the opinion that it should include Saudi Arabia and perhaps Turkey. As well as plundering the nations and possibly demanding tribute.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Repertoire89]
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stupid arrogant fucks that deserve to be on the front lines in those countries and forced to stay there
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Repertoire89]
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I think people should get killeds, but not so much to where they become extinct, just enough to get them to give up there resources, and then we put them in camps and feed them dog food
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Konyap said: stupid arrogant fucks that deserve to be on the front lines in those countries and forced to stay there

Your affection is desired by all.
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zZZz said: I think people should get killeds, but not so much to where they become extinct, just enough to get them to give up there resources, and then we put them in camps and feed them dog food
Do you have to put them in camps and feed them dog food?
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Repertoire89]
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koods said: The US was asked by Iraq to help fight ISIS. Syria wouldn't be involved if the country had control of its own territory
Iraq isn't Syria, you can't give someone permission to enter your neighbor's house.
You do understand that ISIS is headquartered in Syria, right? the northern third of Syria is held by Isis. It's not controlled by the Assad regime. He's not in any position to prevent other parties from attacking an organization that is run from territory he's lost control of.
As for turkey funneling arms to rebels... that is their prerogative. ISIS territory borders turkey. Of course they are going to be involved.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods]
#23717982 - 10/07/16 10:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You clearly have no understanding of sovereignty.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23717994 - 10/07/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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he's a libtard ofc he doesnt
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23717997 - 10/07/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you don't control your territory, you have no claim to sovereignty. If Assad wants to claim sovereignty over the territory held by ISIS, then Syria is in effect attacking Iraq and a military response is completely reasonable.
If your civil war spills over into neighboring countries, those countries have a right to get involved.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#23718005 - 10/07/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mad_Larkin said: he's a libtard ofc he doesnt 
So, you are arguing that ISIS is protected by Syria's sovereign rights?
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods]
#23718009 - 10/07/16 10:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You do understand that ISIS is headquartered in Syria, right? the northern third of Syria is held by Isis. It's not controlled by the Assad regime. He's not in any position to prevent other parties from attacking an organization that is run from territory he's lost control of.
As for turkey funneling arms to rebels... that is their prerogative. ISIS territory borders turkey. Of course they are going to be involved.
There's not much more on this issue that hasn't been said, I suspect we had a hand in starting the civil war out there but that's just conjecture. 
We can only argue so much about things which are decided behind closed doors by liars
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Repertoire89]
#23718012 - 10/07/16 10:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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http://educateinspirechange.org/alternative-news/lawsuit-finds-millions-uncounted-bernie-sanders-ballots/
here you go the DNC is every bit as bad as assad, putin and even the shitty mexican president awhile back
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Repertoire89]
#23718021 - 10/07/16 10:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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TheThe people in the Middle East are the ones who decided to revolt against their governments. These are organic movements. The us doesn't have puppet strings attached to the oppressed people living in these countries.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods]
#23718022 - 10/07/16 10:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mad_Larkin said: he's a libtard ofc he doesnt 
So, you are arguing that ISIS is protected by Syria's sovereign rights?
im not arguing anything with you buddy
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Konyap]
#23718037 - 10/07/16 10:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Konyap said: http://educateinspirechange.org/alternative-news/lawsuit-finds-millions-uncounted-bernie-sanders-ballots/
here you go the DNC is every bit as bad as assad, putin and even the shitty mexican president awhile back
I see nothing but conspiratorial nonsense in that article. Clinton stole the election by having AP announce she had won nomination before the California election? They Are free to make that claim and frankly it was true. Sanders had lost any chance of winning by that point.
Clinton beat sanders. I realize this was most sanders supporters first involvement in politics and I guess they have never had to learn the lesson that you don't always win. Well, sanders lost. Stop whining about it like petulant children. (I voted for sanders. He lost. I got over it)
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#23718042 - 10/07/16 10:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mad_Larkin said: he's a libtard ofc he doesnt 
So, you are arguing that ISIS is protected by Syria's sovereign rights?
im not arguing anything with you buddy
Well, why don't you answer the question instead of taking pot shots with no skin in the game.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods] 1
#23718043 - 10/07/16 10:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: TheThe people in the Middle East are the ones who decided to revolt against their governments. These are organic movements. The us doesn't have puppet strings attached to the oppressed people living in these countries.
No way man ISIS is a direct result of our invasion of Iraq, and our support of Syrian rebels.
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#23718070 - 10/07/16 11:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said:
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Mad_Larkin said: he's a libtard ofc he doesnt 
So, you are arguing that ISIS is protected by Syria's sovereign rights?
im not arguing anything with you buddy
Well, why don't you answer the question instead of taking pot shots with no skin in the game.
because your points are either bait or just plain retarded, it's not worth it
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin]
#23718072 - 10/07/16 11:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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For sure ISIS wouldn't exist if we hadn't invaded Iraq. ISIS evolved from the Sunni led revolt against the us invasion. After Hussein was deposed, shiites took control of Iraq and sunnis were relegated to second class citizens and not allowed to participate in the new government. This led to the uprising of sunnis and their alliance with al qaeda. While many sunnis were brought into the fold at the end of the bush adminstration, more religious and sectarian sunnis simply refused to allow Shiite control of Iraq. This group became isis and they existed long before the Syrian civil war began.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods]
#23718074 - 10/07/16 11:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: TheThe people in the Middle East are the ones who decided to revolt against their governments. These are organic movements. The us doesn't have puppet strings attached to the oppressed people living in these countries.
Keep living in la-la-land
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Since 2010, the Obama administration authorized a record $60bn in US military sales to Saudi Arabia. Since then, the administration concluded deals for nearly $48bn in weapons sales – triple the $16bn in sales under the George W Bush administration.
The Saudi Arabian-led War in Yemen began in 2015 as an attempt to influence the outcome of the Yemeni Civil War.
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[June 2016] On Thursday last week, the UN secretary general listed Saudi Arabia responsible for killing children, bombing hospitals and schools.
This places Saudi Arabia and the coalition it leads in the dubious company of Isis, the Taliban, al-Shabaab and the Lord’s Resistance Army in the blacklist of organisations violating children’s rights in a conflict area.
Their support of these countries gives ISIS a distinct advantage
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were ISIS’ supply lines solely confined within Syrian and Iraqi territory, then surely both Syrian and Iraqi forces would utilize their one advantage – air power – to cut front line ISIS fighters from the source of their supplies. But this is not happening and there is a good reason why.

ISIS’ supply lines run precisely where Syrian and Iraqi air power cannot go. To the north and into NATO-member Turkey, and to the southwest into US allies Jordan and Saudi Arabia. Beyond these borders exists a logistical network that spans a region including both Eastern Europe and North Africa.
Terrorists and weapons left over from NATO’s intervention in Libya in 2011 were promptly sent to Turkey and then onto Syria – coordinated by US State Department officials and intelligence agencies in Benghazi – a terrorist hotbed for decades.
The London Telegraph would report in their 2013 article, “CIA ‘running arms smuggling team in Benghazi when consulate was attacked’,” that:
[CNN] said that a CIA team was working in an annex near the consulate on a project to supply missiles from Libyan armouries to Syrian rebels.
Weapons have also come from Eastern Europe, with the New York Times reporting in 2013 in their article, “Arms Airlift to Syria Rebels Expands, With Aid From C.I.A.,” that:
From offices at secret locations, American intelligence officers have helped the Arab governments shop for weapons, including a large procurement from Croatia, and have vetted rebel commanders and groups to determine who should receive the weapons as they arrive, according to American officials speaking on the condition of anonymity.
And while Western media sources continuously refer to ISIS and other factions operating under the banner of Al Qaeda as “rebels” or “moderates,” it is clear that if billions of dollars in weapons were truly going to “moderates,” they, not ISIS would be dominating the battlefield.
Recent revelations have revealed that as early as 2012 the United States Department of Defense not only anticipated the creation of a “Salafist Principality” straddling Syria and Iraq precisely where ISIS now exists, it welcomed it eagerly and contributed to the circumstances required to bring it about.
They also have an issue with taking out their main source of revenue, or they did up until Russia publicly called them out on it.
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“First and foremost, the Turks help the militants sell stolen Iraqi and Syrian oil for $20 a barrel, which is half the market price.” Until Russia started bombing the living daylights out of them, an endless parade of trucks carrying ISIS oil would go back and forth over the Turkish border completely unmolested. Following the downing of a Russian SU-24 bomber by Turkey in an area where many of these trucks travel, Russian President Vladimir Putin decided to publicly air this dirty laundry. Just check out what he told reporters following a meeting with French President Francois Hollande last week…
Commercial-scale oil smuggling from Islamic State controlled territory into Turkey must be stopped, Putin said after meeting Hollande in Moscow.
“Vehicles, carrying oil, lined up in a chain going beyond the horizon,” said Putin, reminding the press that the scale of the issue was discussed at the G20 summit in Antalya earlier this month, where the Russian leader demonstrated reconnaissance footage taken by Russian pilots.
The views resemble a “living oil pipe” stretched from ISIS and rebel controlled areas of Syria into Turkey, the Russian President stressed. “Day and night they are going to Turkey. Trucks always go there loaded, and back from there – empty.”
“We are talking about a commercial-scale supply of oil from the occupied Syrian territories seized by terrorists. It is from these areas [that oil comes from], and not with any others. And we can see it from the air, where these vehicles are going,” Putin said.
If the Russians could see all of this, the U.S. military could see it too. In fact, we have far better surveillance capabilities than the Russians do.
They were even kind enough to drop leaflets to warn the drivers to run before they bombed them. They warned the terrorists so they wouldnt accidentally kill any of them.
But theres no puppet strings, right koodsie?
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23718077 - 10/07/16 11:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is all for the good of the country, and we've always been at war with Eurasia.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods]
#23718083 - 10/07/16 11:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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SoloTrip said: Clinton wants to remove Assad. She is ready to start on day 1. Start WW3 on day 1.
Maybe 5 years ago, I'm sure there was consideration about ways to undermine Assad. There was a lot of pressure on the Obama administration from a group of republicans lead by John McCain to get involved in the civil war. Focus changed from resolving the civil war to stopping the rise of isis. That goal is shared by Assad and Russia.
tell us again at what point did obama ever give a fuck what a republican had to say?
obama's shit is on obama
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Repertoire89]
#23718190 - 10/07/16 11:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Konyap said: stupid arrogant fucks that deserve to be on the front lines in those countries and forced to stay there

Your affection is desired by all.
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zZZz said: I think people should get killeds, but not so much to where they become extinct, just enough to get them to give up there resources, and then we put them in camps and feed them dog food
Do you have to put them in camps and feed them dog food?
Cat food has a higher fat content.
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Why would ISIS need CIA supplied weapons? They have the entire arsenal of western and northern Iraq at their disposal.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods]
#23718220 - 10/08/16 12:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Theyre influencing it you fool.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23718232 - 10/08/16 12:20 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Of course we're influencing it. We've been bombing in Syria for two years
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods]
#23718240 - 10/08/16 12:26 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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