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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: zZZz] 1
#23717974 - 10/07/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Konyap said: stupid arrogant fucks that deserve to be on the front lines in those countries and forced to stay there

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zZZz said: I think people should get killeds, but not so much to where they become extinct, just enough to get them to give up there resources, and then we put them in camps and feed them dog food
Do you have to put them in camps and feed them dog food?
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Repertoire89]
#23717979 - 10/07/16 10:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: The US was asked by Iraq to help fight ISIS. Syria wouldn't be involved if the country had control of its own territory
Iraq isn't Syria, you can't give someone permission to enter your neighbor's house.
You do understand that ISIS is headquartered in Syria, right? the northern third of Syria is held by Isis. It's not controlled by the Assad regime. He's not in any position to prevent other parties from attacking an organization that is run from territory he's lost control of.
As for turkey funneling arms to rebels... that is their prerogative. ISIS territory borders turkey. Of course they are going to be involved.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods]
#23717982 - 10/07/16 10:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You clearly have no understanding of sovereignty.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23717994 - 10/07/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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he's a libtard ofc he doesnt
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23717997 - 10/07/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you don't control your territory, you have no claim to sovereignty. If Assad wants to claim sovereignty over the territory held by ISIS, then Syria is in effect attacking Iraq and a military response is completely reasonable.
If your civil war spills over into neighboring countries, those countries have a right to get involved.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#23718005 - 10/07/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mad_Larkin said: he's a libtard ofc he doesnt 
So, you are arguing that ISIS is protected by Syria's sovereign rights?
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods]
#23718009 - 10/07/16 10:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You do understand that ISIS is headquartered in Syria, right? the northern third of Syria is held by Isis. It's not controlled by the Assad regime. He's not in any position to prevent other parties from attacking an organization that is run from territory he's lost control of.
As for turkey funneling arms to rebels... that is their prerogative. ISIS territory borders turkey. Of course they are going to be involved.
There's not much more on this issue that hasn't been said, I suspect we had a hand in starting the civil war out there but that's just conjecture. 
We can only argue so much about things which are decided behind closed doors by liars
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Repertoire89]
#23718012 - 10/07/16 10:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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http://educateinspirechange.org/alternative-news/lawsuit-finds-millions-uncounted-bernie-sanders-ballots/
here you go the DNC is every bit as bad as assad, putin and even the shitty mexican president awhile back
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Repertoire89]
#23718021 - 10/07/16 10:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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TheThe people in the Middle East are the ones who decided to revolt against their governments. These are organic movements. The us doesn't have puppet strings attached to the oppressed people living in these countries.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods]
#23718022 - 10/07/16 10:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mad_Larkin said: he's a libtard ofc he doesnt 
So, you are arguing that ISIS is protected by Syria's sovereign rights?
im not arguing anything with you buddy
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Konyap]
#23718037 - 10/07/16 10:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Konyap said: http://educateinspirechange.org/alternative-news/lawsuit-finds-millions-uncounted-bernie-sanders-ballots/
here you go the DNC is every bit as bad as assad, putin and even the shitty mexican president awhile back
I see nothing but conspiratorial nonsense in that article. Clinton stole the election by having AP announce she had won nomination before the California election? They Are free to make that claim and frankly it was true. Sanders had lost any chance of winning by that point.
Clinton beat sanders. I realize this was most sanders supporters first involvement in politics and I guess they have never had to learn the lesson that you don't always win. Well, sanders lost. Stop whining about it like petulant children. (I voted for sanders. He lost. I got over it)
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#23718042 - 10/07/16 10:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mad_Larkin said: he's a libtard ofc he doesnt 
So, you are arguing that ISIS is protected by Syria's sovereign rights?
im not arguing anything with you buddy
Well, why don't you answer the question instead of taking pot shots with no skin in the game.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods] 1
#23718043 - 10/07/16 10:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: TheThe people in the Middle East are the ones who decided to revolt against their governments. These are organic movements. The us doesn't have puppet strings attached to the oppressed people living in these countries.
No way man ISIS is a direct result of our invasion of Iraq, and our support of Syrian rebels.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods] 1
#23718070 - 10/07/16 11:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mad_Larkin said: he's a libtard ofc he doesnt 
So, you are arguing that ISIS is protected by Syria's sovereign rights?
im not arguing anything with you buddy
Well, why don't you answer the question instead of taking pot shots with no skin in the game.
because your points are either bait or just plain retarded, it's not worth it
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin]
#23718072 - 10/07/16 11:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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For sure ISIS wouldn't exist if we hadn't invaded Iraq. ISIS evolved from the Sunni led revolt against the us invasion. After Hussein was deposed, shiites took control of Iraq and sunnis were relegated to second class citizens and not allowed to participate in the new government. This led to the uprising of sunnis and their alliance with al qaeda. While many sunnis were brought into the fold at the end of the bush adminstration, more religious and sectarian sunnis simply refused to allow Shiite control of Iraq. This group became isis and they existed long before the Syrian civil war began.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods]
#23718074 - 10/07/16 11:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: TheThe people in the Middle East are the ones who decided to revolt against their governments. These are organic movements. The us doesn't have puppet strings attached to the oppressed people living in these countries.
Keep living in la-la-land
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Since 2010, the Obama administration authorized a record $60bn in US military sales to Saudi Arabia. Since then, the administration concluded deals for nearly $48bn in weapons sales – triple the $16bn in sales under the George W Bush administration.
The Saudi Arabian-led War in Yemen began in 2015 as an attempt to influence the outcome of the Yemeni Civil War.
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[June 2016] On Thursday last week, the UN secretary general listed Saudi Arabia responsible for killing children, bombing hospitals and schools.
This places Saudi Arabia and the coalition it leads in the dubious company of Isis, the Taliban, al-Shabaab and the Lord’s Resistance Army in the blacklist of organisations violating children’s rights in a conflict area.
Their support of these countries gives ISIS a distinct advantage
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were ISIS’ supply lines solely confined within Syrian and Iraqi territory, then surely both Syrian and Iraqi forces would utilize their one advantage – air power – to cut front line ISIS fighters from the source of their supplies. But this is not happening and there is a good reason why.

ISIS’ supply lines run precisely where Syrian and Iraqi air power cannot go. To the north and into NATO-member Turkey, and to the southwest into US allies Jordan and Saudi Arabia. Beyond these borders exists a logistical network that spans a region including both Eastern Europe and North Africa.
Terrorists and weapons left over from NATO’s intervention in Libya in 2011 were promptly sent to Turkey and then onto Syria – coordinated by US State Department officials and intelligence agencies in Benghazi – a terrorist hotbed for decades.
The London Telegraph would report in their 2013 article, “CIA ‘running arms smuggling team in Benghazi when consulate was attacked’,” that:
[CNN] said that a CIA team was working in an annex near the consulate on a project to supply missiles from Libyan armouries to Syrian rebels.
Weapons have also come from Eastern Europe, with the New York Times reporting in 2013 in their article, “Arms Airlift to Syria Rebels Expands, With Aid From C.I.A.,” that:
From offices at secret locations, American intelligence officers have helped the Arab governments shop for weapons, including a large procurement from Croatia, and have vetted rebel commanders and groups to determine who should receive the weapons as they arrive, according to American officials speaking on the condition of anonymity.
And while Western media sources continuously refer to ISIS and other factions operating under the banner of Al Qaeda as “rebels” or “moderates,” it is clear that if billions of dollars in weapons were truly going to “moderates,” they, not ISIS would be dominating the battlefield.
Recent revelations have revealed that as early as 2012 the United States Department of Defense not only anticipated the creation of a “Salafist Principality” straddling Syria and Iraq precisely where ISIS now exists, it welcomed it eagerly and contributed to the circumstances required to bring it about.
They also have an issue with taking out their main source of revenue, or they did up until Russia publicly called them out on it.
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“First and foremost, the Turks help the militants sell stolen Iraqi and Syrian oil for $20 a barrel, which is half the market price.” Until Russia started bombing the living daylights out of them, an endless parade of trucks carrying ISIS oil would go back and forth over the Turkish border completely unmolested. Following the downing of a Russian SU-24 bomber by Turkey in an area where many of these trucks travel, Russian President Vladimir Putin decided to publicly air this dirty laundry. Just check out what he told reporters following a meeting with French President Francois Hollande last week…
Commercial-scale oil smuggling from Islamic State controlled territory into Turkey must be stopped, Putin said after meeting Hollande in Moscow.
“Vehicles, carrying oil, lined up in a chain going beyond the horizon,” said Putin, reminding the press that the scale of the issue was discussed at the G20 summit in Antalya earlier this month, where the Russian leader demonstrated reconnaissance footage taken by Russian pilots.
The views resemble a “living oil pipe” stretched from ISIS and rebel controlled areas of Syria into Turkey, the Russian President stressed. “Day and night they are going to Turkey. Trucks always go there loaded, and back from there – empty.”
“We are talking about a commercial-scale supply of oil from the occupied Syrian territories seized by terrorists. It is from these areas [that oil comes from], and not with any others. And we can see it from the air, where these vehicles are going,” Putin said.
If the Russians could see all of this, the U.S. military could see it too. In fact, we have far better surveillance capabilities than the Russians do.
They were even kind enough to drop leaflets to warn the drivers to run before they bombed them. They warned the terrorists so they wouldnt accidentally kill any of them.
But theres no puppet strings, right koodsie?
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23718077 - 10/07/16 11:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is all for the good of the country, and we've always been at war with Eurasia.
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods]
#23718083 - 10/07/16 11:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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SoloTrip said: Clinton wants to remove Assad. She is ready to start on day 1. Start WW3 on day 1.
Maybe 5 years ago, I'm sure there was consideration about ways to undermine Assad. There was a lot of pressure on the Obama administration from a group of republicans lead by John McCain to get involved in the civil war. Focus changed from resolving the civil war to stopping the rise of isis. That goal is shared by Assad and Russia.
tell us again at what point did obama ever give a fuck what a republican had to say?
obama's shit is on obama
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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Repertoire89]
#23718190 - 10/07/16 11:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Konyap said: stupid arrogant fucks that deserve to be on the front lines in those countries and forced to stay there

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zZZz said: I think people should get killeds, but not so much to where they become extinct, just enough to get them to give up there resources, and then we put them in camps and feed them dog food
Do you have to put them in camps and feed them dog food?
Cat food has a higher fat content.
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Why would ISIS need CIA supplied weapons? They have the entire arsenal of western and northern Iraq at their disposal.
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