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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods] * 1
    #23717411 - 10/07/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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We haven't invaded. We are there supporting our ally Iraq in a fight against ISIS which is headquartered in Syria. The US is not trying to overthrow Assad. We are trying to defeat ISIS.

The country that really has no business being involved is Russia.




im actually flabbergasted that people are responding to this flagrant horse shit


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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: zZZz] * 2
    #23717412 - 10/07/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Difference in Russia and the US being in Syria is Russia was asked to, the USA was not.


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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #23717456 - 10/07/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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koods said:
We haven't invaded. We are there supporting our ally Iraq in a fight against ISIS which is headquartered in Syria. The US is not trying to overthrow Assad. We are trying to defeat ISIS.

The country that really has no business being involved is Russia.




im actually flabbergasted that people are responding to this flagrant horse shit




Is that why they bombed SAA forces a couple weeks ago, something which directly assisted ISIS's advance? They do these things to strengthen assad and weaken ISIS? :flowstone:


Edited by Bodhi of Ankou (10/07/16 08:19 PM)


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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods] * 2
    #23717499 - 10/07/16 07:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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koods said:
We haven't invaded. We are there supporting our ally Iraq in a fight against ISIS which is headquartered in Syria. The US is not trying to overthrow Assad. We are trying to defeat ISIS.

The country that really has no business being involved is Russia.




Russia was invited into Syria to fight ISIS.

The US literally invaded Syria, not only do we not have permission but have been told to leave.
The US has been openly pushing for the removal of Assad, the demand has been made countless times.

None of that is even open for debate, our own government doesn't deny any of it.


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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23717690 - 10/07/16 08:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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We are one stray shot away from nuclear annihilation.






no.the.fuck.we.aren't.


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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23717711 - 10/07/16 08:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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koods said:
We haven't invaded. We are there supporting our ally Iraq in a fight against ISIS which is headquartered in Syria. The US is not trying to overthrow Assad. We are trying to defeat ISIS.

The country that really has no business being involved is Russia.




Russia was invited into Syria to fight ISIS.

The US literally invaded Syria, not only do we not have permission but have been told to leave.
The US has been openly pushing for the removal of Assad, the demand has been made countless times.

None of that is even open for debate, our own government doesn't deny any of it.






well, where are all the liberals protesting these illegal wars that obama is dragging us into


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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23717730 - 10/07/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

There's another problem with our partisan politics.

Personally I don't care that much about the war, the deception is more irritating.
And fucking around with Russia, we have a lot of shit allies they could replace.


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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23717737 - 10/07/16 08:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

the cia funneled guns to poor tribal people to start wars they are now responsible for over 100,000 deaths a year and the dissolution of iraq

not only that but we installed a puppet govt in ukraine that bombs it's own citizens the russians had a right to be there when the old gov't was taken out in a coup and the easterners that identified with russia wanted out

the usa hasn't prevented violence in any country if they did they would modernize the country rather then load up poor homophobic people with guns that they end up selling to the real buyers the saudi's, isis and the taliban

heck im sure syria and libya and all of them still get 3 billion in assistence

pat them on the back and then murder them and create a war torn shit hole AMERICA FUCK YEAH!!!


Edited by Konyap (10/07/16 08:41 PM)


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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23717749 - 10/07/16 08:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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In the starkest declaration yet Russia has stated that it will destroy any aircraft over syria if the US coalition directly targets the Assad regime again.

We are one stray shot away from nuclear annihilation. What a time to be alive.





they won't shoot planes down with nuclear missiles.


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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Konyap]
    #23717798 - 10/07/16 08:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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the cia funneled guns to poor tribal people to start wars they are now responsible for over 100,000 deaths a year and the dissolution of iraq





the obama administration did so, then they armed and financed the 'syrian rebels' who as it turns out is ISIS, obama would have known this had he not decided to hang his hat on "arab spring' and actually attended his intelligence briefings, but guess who else is involved.... yep, hillary
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/23/hillary-clinton-sponsored-secretive-arab-spring-program-that-destabilized-middle-east/


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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Adolin]
    #23717802 - 10/07/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It wouldnt take long to get to that point once war is declared.


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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: SoloTrip]
    #23717871 - 10/07/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Clinton wants to remove Assad. She is ready to start on day 1. Start WW3 on day 1.




Maybe 5 years ago, I'm sure there was consideration about ways to undermine Assad. There was a lot of pressure on the Obama administration from a group of republicans lead by John McCain to get involved in the civil war. Focus changed from resolving the civil war to stopping the rise of isis. That goal is shared by Assad and Russia.


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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23717905 - 10/07/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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koods said:
We haven't invaded. We are there supporting our ally Iraq in a fight against ISIS which is headquartered in Syria. The US is not trying to overthrow Assad. We are trying to defeat ISIS.

The country that really has no business being involved is Russia.




Russia was invited into Syria to fight ISIS.

The US literally invaded Syria, not only do we not have permission but have been told to leave.
The US has been openly pushing for the removal of Assad, the demand has been made countless times.
None of that is even open for debate, our own government doesn't deny any of it.



The US was asked by Iraq to help fight ISIS. Syria wouldn't be involved if the country had control of its own territory. We don't have any troops in Syria and we bomb ISIS targets. We don't target Syrian troops.

Let's not forget that Russia got involved long after US and Arab coalition air strike began. Russia is the one causing trouble. I'm just amazed so many people want to run away as soon as Putin says something threatening.

I guess everyone is too young to remember when there was constant tension between Russia and the US. This is nothing.


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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods] * 1
    #23717908 - 10/07/16 09:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The official dialogue isnt whats actually happening on the ground or their real intentions in being involved in this conflict. If congress was about the objective betterment of humanity they would've stopped the 8-9 genocides that have occurred globally since the second world war. US involvement in the middle east has increased acts of terrorism by 6000% percent, and has destroyed 5 countries so far. To so successfully achieve the opposite of what they publicly posit about terrorism seems a little too much to swallow. Arms deals to countries full of wahabi and salafist terrorists really only serves to back up the dialogue that theyre involved with ISIS and want to see it grow not shrink.  Realistically the only thing theyve ever done with any amount of success is to breed the extremism, confusion and violence in these countries. We see this happen so often, you have to start to wonder if thats the intended effect.


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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23717925 - 10/07/16 09:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'm fine with just pulling out and letting them deal with this shit themselves. It's not politically possible.


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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods]
    #23717941 - 10/07/16 09:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

There's one caveat:

The threat of run of the mill terrorism in the US is totally overblown. It's such a minor issue and we pay way to much attention to a few small events. The real threat is letting a group like isis gain the resources and expertise to make a nuclear weapon. There is the risk that letting the Middle East sort things out itself means we don't have much control over preventing this from happening.


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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods]
    #23717955 - 10/07/16 10:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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In May, the outlet [Cumhuriyet] published photos of weapons it said were then transferred to Syria by Turkey’s intelligence agency. … The articles, published on Cumhuriyet’s front page in May, claimed that Turkey’s National Intelligence Organization (MİT) is smuggling weapons in trucks into Syria and was caught doing so twice in 2014. The trucks were allegedly stopped and searched by police, with photos and videos of their contents obtained by Cumhuriyet.According to the paper, the trucks were carrying six steel containers, with 1,000 artillery shells, 50,000 machine gun rounds, 30,000 heavy machine gun rounds and 1,000 mortar shells. The arms were reportedly delivered to extremist groups fighting against the Syrian government of President Bashar Assad, whom Ankara wants ousted from power.




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"I want to be very clear: Turkey is a NATO ally. The US supports Turkish rights to defend itself and its airspace and its territory," Obama said after meeting his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan in Paris.

"We all have a common enemy and that is ISIL and I want to make sure we focus on that threat," Obama said, using an alternative name for ISIS.




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The aircraft of the international coalition headed by the USA attacked Syrian army positions in the Syrian city of Deir ez-Zor in the province, Reuters reported.

The blow was struck on Saturday, said in the broadcast of the Syrian state television, the representative of command of armed forces of the country. Statements from the US regarding the incident is not followed.

The losses of the SAA amounted to tens of dead and wounded (the figures vary from 30 to 60 killed – according to the defense Ministry at the SAA 62 killed, over 100 injured, according to the Agency France Press at the SAA 30 killed). In fact, the United States provided tactical air support to the militants of the Caliphate, that is, if to speak in essence. You have to understand that the response in the form of air strikes against Pro-American groups in Syria will not be long in coming. Now in the area occupied by the Caliphate of the height of the heavy fighting going on where the army is trying to regain lost ground (a number of Pro-Syrian sources claim that some of the areas are already recaptured).




A common enemy :lolsy:



Edited by Bodhi of Ankou (10/07/16 10:07 PM)


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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: koods] * 1
    #23717957 - 10/07/16 10:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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The US was asked by Iraq to help fight ISIS. Syria wouldn't be involved if the country had control of its own territory




Iraq isn't Syria, you can't give someone permission to enter your neighbor's house.

The Syrian civil war itself is pretty dubious, we may have been involved in getting it started.


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There's one caveat:

The threat of run of the mill terrorism in the US is totally overblown. It's such a minor issue and we pay way to much attention to a few small events. The real threat is letting a group like isis gain the resources and expertise to make a nuclear weapon. There is the risk that letting the Middle East sort things out itself means we don't have much control over preventing this from happening.




I'm for intervention, but am of the opinion that it should include Saudi Arabia and perhaps Turkey.
As well as plundering the nations and possibly demanding tribute.


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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23717964 - 10/07/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

stupid arrogant fucks that deserve to be on the front lines in those countries and forced to stay there


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Re: Russia threatens to shoot down alliance aircraft [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23717966 - 10/07/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I think people should get killeds, but not so much to where they become extinct, just enough to get them to give up there resources, and then we put them in camps and feed them dog food


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