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Re: Just Ordered Some Krokodil From Latvia [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23718799 - 10/08/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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BANANA.MAN said: Desomorphine is acctually not what causes the problems its the lefover precursers, solvents, and cuts.
Its the same with any opiate that is illicitly produced. Yeah its not good for you to use shittily produced or stepped on street drugs especially if you are banging them. But the acctual opiates are usually fairly physically benign.
I always wondered that. The first report i see of it
"Krokodil is a deadly flesh eating drug made in unsanitary conditionsin russia, similar to bathrooms and bla blah blah"
My first thought "what happens when it's created in a lab with clean environment and chemicals?"
Then i hear it's AI is "desomorphine". So i look it up. This stuff has been around since the 30's (iirc, i know it's been around longer than media would admit) so why are we just now hearing about how it's eating flesh?
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Because some гопник ass ruskis are making it thats why we are only hearing about it eating flesh now
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BANANA.MAN said: Desomorphine is acctually not what causes the problems its the lefover precursers, solvents, and cuts.
Its the same with any opiate that is illicitly produced. Yeah its not good for you to use shittily produced or stepped on street drugs especially if you are banging them. But the acctual opiates are usually fairly physically benign.
I always wondered that. The first report i see of it
"Krokodil is a deadly flesh eating drug made in unsanitary conditionsin russia, similar to bathrooms and bla blah blah"
My first thought "what happens when it's created in a lab with clean environment and chemicals?"
Then i hear it's AI is "desomorphine". So i look it up. This stuff has been around since the 30's (iirc, i know it's been around longer than media would admit) so why are we just now hearing about how it's eating flesh?
The term comes from the "crocodile skin" effect associated with these shittily made preparations. IMO it makes no sense to call relatively pure preparations of desomorphine "krokodil" as well.
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Re: Just Ordered Some Krokodil From Latvia [Re: Crystal G]
#23718872 - 10/08/16 09:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: Are you sure the side effects from injecting krokodil are from impurities? I thought it was the chemical itself, causes the blood vessels to burst and then the surrounding tissue dies that way
Lol holy shit.
Desomorphine. its like other opiates in mechanism of action and no it doesn't cause necrosis on its own.
Good luck OP.
i'd probably bang it but then again im an idiot.
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Re: Just Ordered Some Krokodil From Latvia [Re: Apostle]
#23719112 - 10/08/16 11:13 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Show us some pictures of the gangrene OP
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Re: Just Ordered Some Krokodil From Latvia [Re: abltsandwich]
#23719258 - 10/08/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do you mean you bought desomorphine or w/e?
Krokodil is called that because it is prepped from OTC pharms that make it very polluted. It's not the morphine analogue that it contains alone.
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Re: Just Ordered Some Krokodil From Latvia [Re: Patlal]
#23719375 - 10/08/16 12:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Injecting ethylphenidate causes a similar necrosis even if pure.
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Re: Just Ordered Some Krokodil From Latvia [Re: Moonshoe]
#23719450 - 10/08/16 01:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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ive heard the same for tianeptine as well as some other RC's. Also, pills in general, because of the binders. Never happened to me though.
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Re: Just Ordered Some Krokodil From Latvia [Re: Moonshoe]
#23719478 - 10/08/16 01:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: Injecting ethylphenidate causes a similar necrosis even if pure.
Causes of this damage are from iodine and phosphorus (and other toxic substances) that are present after synthesis. The large volume of tissue damage/infection is what gained the drug its nickname of the flesh-eating drug, as homemade versions made by suppliers and users contain multiple impurities and toxic substances that lead to such tissue damage/infection (the pure form of the drug itself would not cause this damage).[15] Gangrene, phlebitis, thrombosis (blood clots), pneumonia, meningitis, septicaemia (blood infection), osteomyelitis (bone infection), liver & kidney damage, brain damage and HIV/AIDS are also common amongst users of krokodil.[12]
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Re: Just Ordered Some Krokodil From Latvia [Re: Alexestalex]
#23719491 - 10/08/16 01:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Alexestalex said: this is a troll thread
Like you have to be joking
Does having nasty abscesses that don't stop growing sound fun? Cause that's what krokodil does. Watch some documentaries on this stuff, it makes fucking heroin look like a safe drug.
Has to be haha. Seriously if you live in any sort of big city is not hard to find heroin. ask the transients that live near the bus stop. They can help you. Instead of some pseudo garbage drug that makes your skin fall off.
I'm an ex junkie and I'd rather get actual dope.
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Re: Just Ordered Some Krokodil From Latvia [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23719495 - 10/08/16 01:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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If I encountered pure desomorphin I would likely inject it, but I would never inject something marketed as krokodil
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Re: Just Ordered Some Krokodil From Latvia [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23719573 - 10/08/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes I realize what I am saying is that a different drug , ethylphenidate, causes necrosis even if it is totally pure
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Re: Just Ordered Some Krokodil From Latvia [Re: Moonshoe]
#23719616 - 10/08/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Doesn't ethyl alcohol as well?
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Re: Just Ordered Some Krokodil From Latvia [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23719849 - 10/08/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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People inject alcohol?
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Re: Just Ordered Some Krokodil From Latvia [Re: Moonshoe]
#23719879 - 10/08/16 03:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have injected alcohol in my needle junkie days. Very bad fucking idea. But I'd shoot up water just to see my blood. Alcohol burns you can feel it burning your veins up your arm. Do not recommend.
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Re: Just Ordered Some Krokodil From Latvia [Re: Enjoywho]
#23719887 - 10/08/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's Gnar Gnar
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Re: Just Ordered Some Krokodil From Latvia [Re: Moonshoe]
#23719893 - 10/08/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, I've shot up Fireball whisky before. You get the taste of the alcohol in the back of your throat just like dope.
Like Enjoy said, it fucking burns your veins and arm, it's a very weird sensation.
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Re: Just Ordered Some Krokodil From Latvia [Re: TNK]
#23719903 - 10/08/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ya it was Jack Daniel's or some shit. Thank God I haven't used a needle in 4 years.
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Re: Just Ordered Some Krokodil From Latvia [Re: Enjoywho]
#23719915 - 10/08/16 03:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's good man, the needle fetish is a hard one to give up.
Once you've become accustom to using needles to get high it's hard not to inject everything that's inject-able. After I started using them for Heroin it eventually became my preferred route of administration.
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Re: Just Ordered Some Krokodil From Latvia [Re: TNK]
#23719927 - 10/08/16 03:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I would inject everything and anything. Just to see my blood. But I didn't even pull back anymore as I'm very good at finding veins. I'd make a good phlebotomist that's for sure. I was the go to my veins are broke. No I got you. In 2 seconds.
Let me feel. Here give me your drugs. My veins have always stood out but even broken I can find them. I got you. I don't half ass anything I do so ya. I watch movies and still notice a good set of veins. I'd hit that.
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Edited by Enjoywho (10/08/16 03:58 PM)
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