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Bodhi of Ankou
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How come half of you wont ship to Canada
#23714885 - 10/07/16 12:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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WHAT IN THE FLYING FUCK. Theyre not even illegal you fucking dorks.
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MRCA
Tyroler Gluckspilze



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Re: How come half of you wont ship to Canada [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23715082 - 10/07/16 03:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hello Bodhi,
As far as we know, the Canadian government respectively the customs office needs a phytosanitary certificate for import of plant products. Also mushroom spores are classified as plant products. Such a certificate is not cheap (around 400 Euro per shipment). This is the problem with shipping spores to Canada. More information about that can be found on the web page of the Canadian Food Inspection Agency: Importing plants and plant products: what you need to know
If you check with the customs office and plant protection office of Canada and pay for all needed documents, we would be proud to ship spores and other products to Canada. We can also ship without this documents, but in that case you are responsible if customs refuse the parcel and send it back!
With kind regards,
Michael, Tyroler Gluckspilze
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Edited by MRCA (10/07/16 03:56 AM)
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Ryche Hawk
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Re: How come half of you wont ship to Canada [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] 2
#23716203 - 10/07/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: WHAT IN THE FLYING FUCK. Theyre not even illegal you fucking dorks.
Why should the vendors risk losing spores and taking losses for you when you call us fucking dorks?
Tyroler Gluckspilze summed it up good. Except customs does NOT send it back, they throw the package in the trash.
Customs is the answer. When customs takes the spores, then the customer blames us and thinks we are scamming them. It's a waste of time and money on our end. Time because all the time we have to spend dealing with emails and processing new orders. Once I have to send a second order out to cover the first one taken, I'm breaking even and working for free.
We do ship spore prints world wide but not spore syringes due to customs taking to many of them. I am currently rethinking even continuing shipping spore prints because it gets annoying dealing with lost international shipments. I am currently analyzing profit vs. losses vs. time invested to determine if I will even continue shipping spore prints world wide.
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Edited by Ryche Hawk (10/07/16 12:18 PM)
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Pinpapa
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Re: How come half of you wont ship to Canada [Re: Ryche Hawk]
#23718635 - 10/08/16 07:44 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sorry for the OP's manners . Ive been called a prick and pushy , yet I would still never talk to a stranger like OP .Thats reserved for people who need it! I think his age has clouded his better judgement. But it is frustrating trying to get good spore service here.Not your fault though.I keep saying we need a good supplier.I've got two order's in with our #1 supply and I cant get him to even respond to an email. But it has only been a month so far.
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Bodhi of Ankou
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Re: How come half of you wont ship to Canada [Re: Ryche Hawk]
#23722078 - 10/09/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ryche Hawk said:
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Bodhi of Ankou said: WHAT IN THE FLYING FUCK. Theyre not even illegal you fucking dorks.
Why should the vendors risk losing spores and taking losses for you when you call us fucking dorks?
Tyroler Gluckspilze summed it up good. Except customs does NOT send it back, they throw the package in the trash.
Customs is the answer. When customs takes the spores, then the customer blames us and thinks we are scamming them. It's a waste of time and money on our end. Time because all the time we have to spend dealing with emails and processing new orders. Once I have to send a second order out to cover the first one taken, I'm breaking even and working for free.
We do ship spore prints world wide but not spore syringes due to customs taking to many of them. I am currently rethinking even continuing shipping spore prints because it gets annoying dealing with lost international shipments. I am currently analyzing profit vs. losses vs. time invested to determine if I will even continue shipping spore prints world wide.
Disclaimers would not only prevent that theyd increase business. We all know what we intend to do with them is illegal anyways. Dont we?
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The Phleg
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Re: How come half of you wont ship to Canada [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] 1
#23723358 - 10/09/16 07:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I didn't know looking at psychoactive fungi spores under a microscope was illegal!
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Ryche Hawk
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Re: How come half of you wont ship to Canada [Re: The Phleg]
#23766404 - 10/24/16 10:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bodhi: How would disclaimers increase business with international sales?
Customs certainly would not give a crap about a disclaimer. And customers want the product they paid for, regardless if customs takes them. Then they ask me to refund the money or ship new prints. What's worse is anything with a tracking # requires a customs label now and the post office greatly increased the international shipping charges.
I am currently putting edible mushroom labels on all the spore prints and putting an acronym for the real strain to see if this improves odds. For example, Golden Teacher prints would have GT on the label as well as Shiitake.
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Bodhi of Ankou
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Re: How come half of you wont ship to Canada [Re: Ryche Hawk]
#23767389 - 10/24/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Disclaimers as in "your shipment may be seized, proceed at your own risk", but on second thought liability may become an issue with that statement. thankfully I managed to get a syringe from another dealer who was willing to ship them. Such a shame they instituted that tax.
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the spore depot
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Re: How come half of you wont ship to Canada [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23768039 - 10/24/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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We had the last 3-4 packages to Canada sent back with paperwork from Canadian customs stating that "cubensis spores are schedule III" maybe the law just recently changed. That is why we no longer ship there.
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Bodhi of Ankou
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Re: How come half of you wont ship to Canada [Re: the spore depot]
#23768080 - 10/24/16 07:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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There is no law against their possession as they dont contain any psychoactive components, nor has that law changed. Do you mind uploading shots of these letters?
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the spore depot
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Re: How come half of you wont ship to Canada [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23769148 - 10/25/16 07:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: There is no law against their possession as they dont contain any psychoactive components, nor has that law changed. Do you mind uploading shots of these letters?
I didn't keep them the last time it happened was almost a month ago and we stopped shipping after that. Believe me we didn't just stop for no reason a lot of orders came from Canada. I do know a lot has changed since the Kratom thing and some places are labeling spores along with other items as precursors.
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Bodhi of Ankou
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Re: How come half of you wont ship to Canada [Re: the spore depot]
#23770546 - 10/25/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hmmm, this is very curious to me because I've searched high and low for whatever bill they might've slipped this into and I can find nothing. People still openly sell kratom here as well. Whatever theyre doing theyre doing it quietly and without the proper legal amendments.
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blindingleaf
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Re: How come half of you wont ship to Canada [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23793821 - 11/02/16 07:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have lost at least 5 trades sending to canada in the last 1.5 year. I figured it was just getting lost cause I never got a notice. I didn't realize it was an actual legal thing.
Bodhi-our sponsors are great, I don't think they would mislead anyone about this. they WANT to sell and send you spores to keep their business going…thats what they do everyday.
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Pinpapa
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Re: How come half of you wont ship to Canada [Re: blindingleaf]
#23809289 - 11/07/16 10:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just got print that came from a generous friend in NY so some make it. I think having Company name with Mushrooms in it GUARANTEES closer inspection at the border.So if you can , go plain Jane!
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Re: How come half of you wont ship to Canada [Re: Pinpapa]
#23821547 - 11/10/16 11:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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We don't put Mushrooms.com on the return label, it says TMT LLC.
We are now hand writing all NON USA orders and putting edible labels on the spore prints and putting your order # and acronym for the correct strain on the actual label It's a lot of extra work but I've been spreading mushroom spores around the world for 19 years and I'm not giving up now because customs got tougher. 
BTW, if all goes as planned a Mushrooms.com European division will be opening in 2017!
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Edited by Ryche Hawk (11/10/16 11:45 PM)
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wolfedawwg
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Re: How come half of you wont ship to Canada [Re: Ryche Hawk]
#23906151 - 12/08/16 09:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ryche Hawk said: Except customs does NOT send it back, they throw the package in the trash
When customs seizes a package, they send you a letter informing you of this with some contact information in regards to getting your seized package back or they will just return to sender as the spore depot mentioned. There is nothing illegal going on here so you not getting your packages back is either bull shit or your own fault! I have sent about 20 prints to the USA this year and every one has reached their destination.....
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the spore depot
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Re: How come half of you wont ship to Canada [Re: wolfedawwg]
#23908083 - 12/08/16 06:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Here is the last document we received from Canadian customs, with customers name and address hidden for obvious reasons, this is why we do not ship to Canada anymore. Maybe the laws just recently changed.
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Ryche Hawk
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Re: How come half of you wont ship to Canada [Re: wolfedawwg]
#23915598 - 12/11/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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wolfedawwg said:
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Ryche Hawk said: Except customs does NOT send it back, they throw the package in the trash
When customs seizes a package, they send you a letter informing you of this with some contact information in regards to getting your seized package back or they will just return to sender as the spore depot mentioned. There is nothing illegal going on here so you not getting your packages back is either bull shit or your own fault! I have sent about 20 prints to the USA this year and every one has reached their destination.....
Customs is supposed to send a letter but most of the time they do not. Australia is the worst. They have extremely strict customs. Although most of what mushrooms.com sends does not have tracking # some do. They all had a legit return address. And I've seen 2 of the tracking #'s show it was intercepted by customs and myself nor the customer ever received a letter from customs. Customs is highly understaffed and has thousands of packages to look at every day. Spore Depot probably got the letters because he sent spore syringes with a customs label and tracking #. He might even have put a value on his package so customs had to be accountable. I send my spore prints as a letter, no customs label required and no value on them. Why would they waste their time, its easier for them to just throw them in the trash and utilize their resources on more important matters.
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wolfedawwg
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Re: How come half of you wont ship to Canada [Re: Ryche Hawk]
#23915654 - 12/11/16 09:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ryche Hawk said: Why would they waste their time, its easier for them to just throw them in the trash and utilize their resources on more important matters.
Maybe because that's it what their job entails them to do. If customs is throwing your mail in the garbage without any documentation or without notifying either party, THAT IS ILLEGAL.
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Re: How come half of you wont ship to Canada [Re: the spore depot]
#24215767 - 04/03/17 03:56 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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According to the CDSA that customs mentions in that letter only Psilocin and Psilocybin, and any salt thereof, are illegal. Spores are still legal and the laws have not changed. There is no mention of the word spores in the CDSA. Customs officers are just people and they can make poor, lazy decisions, and it seems like that is what they have been doing by rejecting spore syringes and name dropping the CDSA. They are not doing their jobs properly.
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Re: How come half of you wont ship to Canada [Re: SuicideCommando]
#24222041 - 04/06/17 02:31 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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I know this is an old tread but here's my two cents as an international customer in general.
Perhaps if vendors can offer a service to send prints to international customers in ordinary letter/greeting card envelopes as these very rarely get inspected.
It would also cost considerably less for international customers.
It will of course take longer and The risk of it being lost in the mail is slightly more, yes, but really, how often does that happen?
I trust the verified vendors enough to know that if my letter never arrived, I know very well that they have indeed sent it and it is most probably a postal issue then.
Obviously there's a limit on the amount of prints you can send with this option in one envelope, so as not to make it too thick. But it would be great for us international customers to be able to just buy one print at a time and not having to fork our nearly 3 times the product price in shipping.
Kindly consider or tell me why this can't be an option.
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safralasis
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Re: How come half of you wont ship to Canada [Re: BlueDisa]
#24222641 - 04/06/17 11:14 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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i have never had a syringe confiscated, and ive been shipped close to 100 syringes. im in canada, but in Alberta the customs seems to be extremely lenient. i had mhrb opened looked at and sent on its way , kratom extract and they never confiscate anything unless its a actual illegal street drug it seems just my opinion.
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